http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/intel-lifting-netbook-screen-size-restrictions-for-next-gen-atom/ Engadget Comments for Intel lifting netbook screen size restrictions for next-gen Atom netbooks? http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/intel-lifting-netbook-screen-size-restrictions-for-next-gen-atom/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/intel-lifting-netbook-screen-size-restrictions-for-next-gen-atom/May 19th 2010 10:34AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/intel-lifting-netbook-screen-size-restrictions-for-next-gen-atom/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/intel-lifting-netbook-screen-size-restrictions-for-next-gen-atom/Performance wise, yes crappy. But a small form factor and a long battery life, not crappy.]]>May 19th 2010 10:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/intel-lifting-netbook-screen-size-restrictions-for-next-gen-atom/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/intel-lifting-netbook-screen-size-restrictions-for-next-gen-atom/
I own a Samsung NC10 and really, they're not that bad. I could type just as fast as usual on the keyboard and the only limiting factor for me is the screen size/resolution. 12 inches sounds great (cue that's what she said jokes).]]>May 19th 2010 10:39AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/intel-lifting-netbook-screen-size-restrictions-for-next-gen-atom/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/intel-lifting-netbook-screen-size-restrictions-for-next-gen-atom/

+1]]>May 19th 2010 10:46AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/intel-lifting-netbook-screen-size-restrictions-for-next-gen-atom/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/intel-lifting-netbook-screen-size-restrictions-for-next-gen-atom/
they serve a purpose. The name "netbook" sort of gives you a clue!]]>May 19th 2010 10:46AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/intel-lifting-netbook-screen-size-restrictions-for-next-gen-atom/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/intel-lifting-netbook-screen-size-restrictions-for-next-gen-atom/
Indeed. I just wish more people understood that.]]>May 19th 2010 10:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/intel-lifting-netbook-screen-size-restrictions-for-next-gen-atom/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/intel-lifting-netbook-screen-size-restrictions-for-next-gen-atom/unfortunaly they dont, netbook concept is a nice one but it's messed up, ppl wanted to play full hd and crysis on their netbooks, to have a hole colections of movies and series stored on them and companies in their atempt to deliver all that kind of left all that original netbook idea, but they are still good lil computers, I dont have one but I played with some and I must say that I wouldnt mind owning one of them]]>May 19th 2010 11:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/intel-lifting-netbook-screen-size-restrictions-for-next-gen-atom/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/intel-lifting-netbook-screen-size-restrictions-for-next-gen-atom/May 19th 2010 12:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/intel-lifting-netbook-screen-size-restrictions-for-next-gen-atom/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/intel-lifting-netbook-screen-size-restrictions-for-next-gen-atom/I would love to have a very powerful, larger laptop that's battery last 10 hours for $300; but somehow this doesn't seem realistic.]]>May 19th 2010 12:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/intel-lifting-netbook-screen-size-restrictions-for-next-gen-atom/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/intel-lifting-netbook-screen-size-restrictions-for-next-gen-atom/
Netbooks are not meant to be laptops. Why they are giving them larger screens rather than smaller is beyond me. I don't consider anything with a larger than 10" screen a netbook. The entire point was something small and portable to take with you on vacation, the backyard, etc without the hassle of a power brick etc. The iPad is a new extention of this. Just power enough to type up a doc, update facebook, check email, book tickets to a show while on vacation, and you're done.

They should be moving towards a $150 OQO, not a goofy laptop that wont fit in my pocket or small travel bag.

12" screen is NOT a netbook, i'm sorry.]]>May 19th 2010 12:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/intel-lifting-netbook-screen-size-restrictions-for-next-gen-atom/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/intel-lifting-netbook-screen-size-restrictions-for-next-gen-atom/Because they know the idiot buyers will buy a $300 12" netbook thinking it's a regular laptop, albeit a small one.]]>May 19th 2010 12:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/intel-lifting-netbook-screen-size-restrictions-for-next-gen-atom/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/intel-lifting-netbook-screen-size-restrictions-for-next-gen-atom/
Outside the basic browsing, email and Microsoft Office 2007, I can do a bit of 3D gaming, watch movies that I saved to the spacious 160 GB hard drive, some programming in Visual Studio Express (Larger screen would be nice, though it's usable) and a bit of photo editing. While it would be nice to own a fancy 13" laptop with hybrid graphics and a cupholder, I don't need all that power frequently. They're far from crappy, though quite a ways from being a primary machine.]]>May 19th 2010 3:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/intel-lifting-netbook-screen-size-restrictions-for-next-gen-atom/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/intel-lifting-netbook-screen-size-restrictions-for-next-gen-atom/Thats what she said.]]>May 19th 2010 8:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/intel-lifting-netbook-screen-size-restrictions-for-next-gen-atom/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/intel-lifting-netbook-screen-size-restrictions-for-next-gen-atom/May 19th 2010 10:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/intel-lifting-netbook-screen-size-restrictions-for-next-gen-atom/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/intel-lifting-netbook-screen-size-restrictions-for-next-gen-atom/May 19th 2010 10:44AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/intel-lifting-netbook-screen-size-restrictions-for-next-gen-atom/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/intel-lifting-netbook-screen-size-restrictions-for-next-gen-atom/
This is why I'm pro-AMD. I can never recall AMD demanding minimum/maximum spec build-outs to go along with their processors. If I'm wrong, correct me, but I don't believe they ever have. AMD + Free Choice >>>>>>>>>>> Intel + Mandatory Specs]]>May 19th 2010 10:49AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/intel-lifting-netbook-screen-size-restrictions-for-next-gen-atom/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/intel-lifting-netbook-screen-size-restrictions-for-next-gen-atom/What swith everyone and "dictating" and "sensorship"? It's product seperation, and is a pretty damn smart and VERY common move, you just don't see it most of the time.

Imagine the fat, unaware shopper who thinks they are getting a deal when that 15" laptop runs like a hog with that atom in it. Who will they blame first? The manufacturer, or their lack of forsight on technology?]]>May 19th 2010 10:55AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/intel-lifting-netbook-screen-size-restrictions-for-next-gen-atom/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/intel-lifting-netbook-screen-size-restrictions-for-next-gen-atom/And how does that effect you? Were you hoping for a netbook with under a gig, but now since the communist intel stopped you...

In the end, Intels process doesn't restrict me
in an way, and Im afforded options to the best processors in the world. ]]>May 19th 2010 10:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/intel-lifting-netbook-screen-size-restrictions-for-next-gen-atom/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/intel-lifting-netbook-screen-size-restrictions-for-next-gen-atom/May 19th 2010 11:11AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/intel-lifting-netbook-screen-size-restrictions-for-next-gen-atom/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/intel-lifting-netbook-screen-size-restrictions-for-next-gen-atom/I thought it was Microsoft telling everyone (including Intel) what could and could not be called a "netbook".]]>May 19th 2010 3:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/intel-lifting-netbook-screen-size-restrictions-for-next-gen-atom/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/intel-lifting-netbook-screen-size-restrictions-for-next-gen-atom/May 20th 2010 10:49AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/intel-lifting-netbook-screen-size-restrictions-for-next-gen-atom/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/intel-lifting-netbook-screen-size-restrictions-for-next-gen-atom/
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2034940772+1724547402&QksAutoSuggestion=&ShowDeactivatedMark=False&Configurator=&Subcategory=772&description=&Ntk=&CFG=&SpeTabStoreType=&srchInDesc=]]>May 19th 2010 10:39AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/intel-lifting-netbook-screen-size-restrictions-for-next-gen-atom/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/intel-lifting-netbook-screen-size-restrictions-for-next-gen-atom/
And 11.6" with Atoms have been available from most of the manufacturers for quite awhile now.

]]>May 19th 2010 10:55AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/intel-lifting-netbook-screen-size-restrictions-for-next-gen-atom/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/intel-lifting-netbook-screen-size-restrictions-for-next-gen-atom/May 19th 2010 11:13AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/intel-lifting-netbook-screen-size-restrictions-for-next-gen-atom/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/intel-lifting-netbook-screen-size-restrictions-for-next-gen-atom/http://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-Notebook-1-66ghz-160gb-black/dp/B002OOVTCI]]>May 19th 2010 12:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/intel-lifting-netbook-screen-size-restrictions-for-next-gen-atom/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/intel-lifting-netbook-screen-size-restrictions-for-next-gen-atom/
If I'm understanding what I've been reading correctly, that's still a last gen processor. These restrictions apply to the next gen Atom (the current gen?).

All this could be solved had Engadget stated which processors this applied to instead of giving a general term like "next-gen".]]>May 19th 2010 12:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/intel-lifting-netbook-screen-size-restrictions-for-next-gen-atom/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/intel-lifting-netbook-screen-size-restrictions-for-next-gen-atom/
I really hope AMD never dies or Intel will take us back to the digital middle ages, while letting us pay through the nose for that "fun" trip at the same time...
]]>May 19th 2010 10:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/intel-lifting-netbook-screen-size-restrictions-for-next-gen-atom/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/intel-lifting-netbook-screen-size-restrictions-for-next-gen-atom/Compare benchmark scores, not clocks. When you're done, compare power draw, hardware support, and manufacturing costs.]]>May 19th 2010 10:56AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/intel-lifting-netbook-screen-size-restrictions-for-next-gen-atom/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/intel-lifting-netbook-screen-size-restrictions-for-next-gen-atom/May 19th 2010 11:02AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/intel-lifting-netbook-screen-size-restrictions-for-next-gen-atom/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/intel-lifting-netbook-screen-size-restrictions-for-next-gen-atom/http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_list.php]]>May 19th 2010 1:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/intel-lifting-netbook-screen-size-restrictions-for-next-gen-atom/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/intel-lifting-netbook-screen-size-restrictions-for-next-gen-atom/...now on to the next specs mentioned. That's the point, if you're looking for absolute performance, netbook are the wrong place to look.]]>May 19th 2010 2:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/intel-lifting-netbook-screen-size-restrictions-for-next-gen-atom/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/intel-lifting-netbook-screen-size-restrictions-for-next-gen-atom/May 19th 2010 10:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/intel-lifting-netbook-screen-size-restrictions-for-next-gen-atom/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/intel-lifting-netbook-screen-size-restrictions-for-next-gen-atom/
And you can't really differentiate on battery life because there are some full fledged notebooks with huge battery packs that muster the same time frame. (heck, the new MacBook is reportedly going to have 10 hour battery life... It's not a netbook.)

Netbooks ceased being small and lightweight notebooks when they past 8-9" screens. Seriously, there are notebooks that are smaller than some of these netbooks. ]]>May 19th 2010 10:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/intel-lifting-netbook-screen-size-restrictions-for-next-gen-atom/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/intel-lifting-netbook-screen-size-restrictions-for-next-gen-atom/Since that mbp I worked on got it's full claimed 7 hours... Yeah. Sleeping.]]>May 19th 2010 11:00AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/intel-lifting-netbook-screen-size-restrictions-for-next-gen-atom/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/intel-lifting-netbook-screen-size-restrictions-for-next-gen-atom/
The point is it was only £349 which a "decent" netbook costs around the same? So I got this instead. Plus 250gb hd too]]>May 19th 2010 11:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/intel-lifting-netbook-screen-size-restrictions-for-next-gen-atom/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/intel-lifting-netbook-screen-size-restrictions-for-next-gen-atom/May 19th 2010 10:54AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/intel-lifting-netbook-screen-size-restrictions-for-next-gen-atom/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/intel-lifting-netbook-screen-size-restrictions-for-next-gen-atom/
Hmm... my msg got cut off. Meant to say: sub 10" screen, great to decent battery life on a small 3 cell battery, sub $400 starting price. Anything else and you might as well get a laptop.]]>May 19th 2010 10:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/intel-lifting-netbook-screen-size-restrictions-for-next-gen-atom/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/intel-lifting-netbook-screen-size-restrictions-for-next-gen-atom/May 19th 2010 10:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/intel-lifting-netbook-screen-size-restrictions-for-next-gen-atom/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/intel-lifting-netbook-screen-size-restrictions-for-next-gen-atom/
My 17" Macbook Pro cost $2,900. My 10" HP Mini 210 HD cost ~$370. I love and use both for different reasons. Re: Netbooks, you obviously missed the point.]]>May 19th 2010 11:00AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/intel-lifting-netbook-screen-size-restrictions-for-next-gen-atom/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/intel-lifting-netbook-screen-size-restrictions-for-next-gen-atom/May 19th 2010 11:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/intel-lifting-netbook-screen-size-restrictions-for-next-gen-atom/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/intel-lifting-netbook-screen-size-restrictions-for-next-gen-atom/
That shows you don't know the purpose behind a NETbook.]]>May 19th 2010 12:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/intel-lifting-netbook-screen-size-restrictions-for-next-gen-atom/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/intel-lifting-netbook-screen-size-restrictions-for-next-gen-atom/May 19th 2010 12:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/intel-lifting-netbook-screen-size-restrictions-for-next-gen-atom/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/intel-lifting-netbook-screen-size-restrictions-for-next-gen-atom/
I tried forcing myself to like using a netbook, just couldn't get past how miserably slow they are (N450 equipped). Sadly even found Windows 7 Starter to be smoother than UNR, but simple tasks as browsing were frustratingly slow in both. ]]>May 19th 2010 11:00AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/intel-lifting-netbook-screen-size-restrictions-for-next-gen-atom/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/intel-lifting-netbook-screen-size-restrictions-for-next-gen-atom/
I don't get this. I have a newer Macbook Pro, so I know speed. Anyway, I installed Windows 7 ULTIMATE on my N450 netbook and have been using Chrome with a couple of tabs open + Photoshop CS5 + Dreamweaver CS5 + Illustrator CS5. No problems whatsoever. I do a lot of web development so I'm not working with huge image files but still, this is much more than simple tasks. Though I did upgrade the RAM to 2GB which everyone should do anyway.]]>May 19th 2010 11:07AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/intel-lifting-netbook-screen-size-restrictions-for-next-gen-atom/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/intel-lifting-netbook-screen-size-restrictions-for-next-gen-atom/
Just to add a little perspective, just a couple of years ago I (and everyone else) was using high end expensive laptops for much the same work and they were just as "bad" as these, yet I got work done again, without a hitch. I don't remember them lagging uncontrollably except for those occasions when you started to hit the paging file/cache. With today's netbooks you can have GPU accelerated GUI's (Windows 7 + Aero, though admittedly you have to install it yourself like I did) and much more RAM (up to 2GB). On top of that, I got one with a 1366x768 resolution + one of those Broadcom HD cards for that odd Youtube video or two. All for $370-ish.

Look, I know, there are some things I do on my Macbook Pro that I'd never think of doing on my netbook. Like editing video for example, but if you go into a store looking to drop $300 on a small video editing machine, you are a freaking idiot. For what they are, they are perfect. Small little inexpensive machines that you can carry around when you don't want to lug around 500 pounds worth of machine.

Man, when I hear people scream out ION! 12" screen! Dual Core! I think, stop being stupid and spend your $600 on a decent low end laptop. If your a professional who does some low power needed work from time to time, get a netbook, you wont regret it! Plus it's a drop in the bucket.]]>May 19th 2010 11:25AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/intel-lifting-netbook-screen-size-restrictions-for-next-gen-atom/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/intel-lifting-netbook-screen-size-restrictions-for-next-gen-atom/Back in the days I was editing dvd-res video on a PIII 500MHz CPU. Why should I not be able to do the same thing today on a Atom CPU 3-4 times faster? Remember that mant people still are happily using their old gear and quite frankly, onece it comes to sharing youtube with its low bitrate seem to be the choice of many.]]>May 20th 2010 2:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/intel-lifting-netbook-screen-size-restrictions-for-next-gen-atom/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/intel-lifting-netbook-screen-size-restrictions-for-next-gen-atom/May 19th 2010 11:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/intel-lifting-netbook-screen-size-restrictions-for-next-gen-atom/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/intel-lifting-netbook-screen-size-restrictions-for-next-gen-atom/May 19th 2010 11:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/intel-lifting-netbook-screen-size-restrictions-for-next-gen-atom/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/intel-lifting-netbook-screen-size-restrictions-for-next-gen-atom/"Netbooks ceased being small and lightweight notebooks when they past 8-9" screens."

HUH???

ASUS Eee PC 904HA Netbook (8.9") (1024x600)
10.47" (W) x 7.53" (D) x 1.12" ~ 1.50" (H) : 3.09 lbs

My Gateway LT3103u (11.6") (1366 x 768)
11.3" (W) x 8" (D) x 1" (H) : 3 lbs

I much prefer my larger 11.6" 1366 x 768 screen over the unusable/unreadable (for me) 8.9-10.1" 1024 x 600 screens.

Even with it's 1.3 MHz single core AMD, it does what I need it to do. I bought it because it was small, light and easy to travel with not for power.]]>May 19th 2010 11:11AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/intel-lifting-netbook-screen-size-restrictions-for-next-gen-atom/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/intel-lifting-netbook-screen-size-restrictions-for-next-gen-atom/
The problem with screens that large is you need a freaking laptop bag to go anywhere. The point of Netbooks is to eventually fit in the pocket/purse/saddle bag and not even know its in there. They're designed to be SMALL and LIGHT. The iPod Touch and iPad are going in the right direction with this, but there is still a market for people who don't want a locked down OS.

Netbooks are striving to be OQO competitors, NOT laptop competitors. If the screen is too small for you, then you probably want to buy a LAPTOP, not a netbook!]]>May 19th 2010 12:52PM