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There are lots of smartphones on cheaper contracts on the other networks. The downside is you're pretty much forced into 2 year contracts now.]]>May 19th 2010 5:54AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/o2-uk-will-get-palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-on-may-28-skin-you-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/o2-uk-will-get-palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-on-may-28-skin-you-a/May 19th 2010 6:00AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/o2-uk-will-get-palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-on-may-28-skin-you-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/o2-uk-will-get-palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-on-may-28-skin-you-a/May 19th 2010 6:12AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/o2-uk-will-get-palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-on-may-28-skin-you-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/o2-uk-will-get-palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-on-may-28-skin-you-a/May 19th 2010 8:29AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/o2-uk-will-get-palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-on-may-28-skin-you-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/o2-uk-will-get-palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-on-may-28-skin-you-a/
Even Tmobile have stopped doing 12mth contracts now. Fuck em, i buy my handsets sim free now, cheaper anyway.

At this price, its going to be more pain for Palm.]]>May 19th 2010 11:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/o2-uk-will-get-palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-on-may-28-skin-you-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/o2-uk-will-get-palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-on-may-28-skin-you-a/May 19th 2010 5:52AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/o2-uk-will-get-palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-on-may-28-skin-you-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/o2-uk-will-get-palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-on-may-28-skin-you-a/May 19th 2010 9:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/o2-uk-will-get-palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-on-may-28-skin-you-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/o2-uk-will-get-palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-on-may-28-skin-you-a/
I know but the pre plus is basically a pre with tiny updates]]>May 19th 2010 9:34AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/o2-uk-will-get-palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-on-may-28-skin-you-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/o2-uk-will-get-palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-on-may-28-skin-you-a/May 19th 2010 9:40AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/o2-uk-will-get-palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-on-may-28-skin-you-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/o2-uk-will-get-palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-on-may-28-skin-you-a/"old" or not, I'm lovin my AT&T Pre Plus. I couldn't help myself since I've wanted one since the original came out.
I just works.]]>May 19th 2010 9:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/o2-uk-will-get-palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-on-may-28-skin-you-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/o2-uk-will-get-palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-on-may-28-skin-you-a/May 19th 2010 5:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/o2-uk-will-get-palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-on-may-28-skin-you-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/o2-uk-will-get-palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-on-may-28-skin-you-a/
-and are they providing a replacement straight away, or does the first one have to break first?]]>May 19th 2010 6:00AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/o2-uk-will-get-palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-on-may-28-skin-you-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/o2-uk-will-get-palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-on-may-28-skin-you-a/
$35/mo for unlimited data and text and 100 minutes of talk?? Or $42/mo for the same plan with 300 minutes??

That sounds about perfect and a hell of a lot cheaper than that would cost here in the US. That's about what I am paying now with NO data plan and about 300 txts a month.

As usual, the US consumer gets screwed.]]>May 19th 2010 6:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/o2-uk-will-get-palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-on-may-28-skin-you-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/o2-uk-will-get-palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-on-may-28-skin-you-a/
Lol, you should try living here in the UK. Yes our phone market is probably better than the US but on practically everything else we get stung big time. Most consumer electronics are brought over with dollar for pound exchange rate which often makes our products at least 1.5 times the price of the US version! I was in Hawaii last summer and I was gobsmacked by how cheap clothes were compared to the UK. I bought a tshirt (a UK owned brand too) and it cost me around half of what it cost here in the UK. I also am aware of a situation a few years ago where it was cheaper to buy a bicycle Manufactured in the UK from The US even after having paid shipping and taxes!]]>May 19th 2010 6:46AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/o2-uk-will-get-palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-on-may-28-skin-you-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/o2-uk-will-get-palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-on-may-28-skin-you-a/May 19th 2010 7:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/o2-uk-will-get-palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-on-may-28-skin-you-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/o2-uk-will-get-palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-on-may-28-skin-you-a/These ARE expensive plans. For example, costs more than a HTC Desire. You also need to add in the initial cost of the phone here, which isn't cheap.]]>May 19th 2010 10:13AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/o2-uk-will-get-palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-on-may-28-skin-you-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/o2-uk-will-get-palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-on-may-28-skin-you-a/Verizon Wireless makes a 45% profit margin. The U.S. cell phone carriers are huge ripoffs. I'm amazed that all those people with iPhones pay $90 a month and think this is a good value.

Luckily there are some sane prices coming into the market with Metro PCS, Virgin Mobile, etc but then you are limited to lame phones. Nothing using WebOS or Andriod.]]>May 19th 2010 10:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/o2-uk-will-get-palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-on-may-28-skin-you-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/o2-uk-will-get-palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-on-may-28-skin-you-a/
Right in the chart above it states that the Pre is 100 pounds for the cheapest plan and 50 for the 30-pound plan... after which it is free. That is the same price as it is with AT&T, but on this side of the Atlantic, you get the "privilege" of spending $70/mo. That's the cheapest rate and doesn't even include a txt plan and has only 450 minutes of talk. That's almost 50-pounds.

An unlimited everything plan with AT&T runs an absurd $120 which is about 82-pounds each and every month.

Oh yeah, and there is no option to buy your own phone here in the US except for T-Mobile. We had to leave it to a German-owned phone company to come up with something as reasonable as that.]]>May 19th 2010 10:39AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/o2-uk-will-get-palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-on-may-28-skin-you-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/o2-uk-will-get-palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-on-may-28-skin-you-a/I guess we get a better deal in comparison to the US, but my point is it should be a competitive option in the UK as well. I really wanted the Palm Pre Plus for ages now.. but now the pricing has been released, I'm not so certain. I'm hoping if Vodafone release this, the price won't be too much more.]]>May 19th 2010 3:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/o2-uk-will-get-palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-on-may-28-skin-you-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/o2-uk-will-get-palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-on-may-28-skin-you-a/Jun 6th 2010 8:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/o2-uk-will-get-palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-on-may-28-skin-you-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/o2-uk-will-get-palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-on-may-28-skin-you-a/May 19th 2010 6:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/o2-uk-will-get-palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-on-may-28-skin-you-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/o2-uk-will-get-palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-on-may-28-skin-you-a/May 19th 2010 6:12AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/o2-uk-will-get-palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-on-may-28-skin-you-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/o2-uk-will-get-palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-on-may-28-skin-you-a/http://forums.precentral.net/gsm-pre/239760-finaly-unlocked-my-pre.html

SFR and AT&T units both confirmed to work, this should as well.]]>May 19th 2010 9:14AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/o2-uk-will-get-palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-on-may-28-skin-you-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/o2-uk-will-get-palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-on-may-28-skin-you-a/May 19th 2010 6:13AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/o2-uk-will-get-palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-on-may-28-skin-you-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/o2-uk-will-get-palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-on-may-28-skin-you-a/May 19th 2010 6:13AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/o2-uk-will-get-palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-on-may-28-skin-you-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/o2-uk-will-get-palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-on-may-28-skin-you-a/physical keyboard, elegant UI, true multitasking, home-brew community, mobile hot-spot, and other matters of preference ]]>May 19th 2010 9:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/o2-uk-will-get-palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-on-may-28-skin-you-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/o2-uk-will-get-palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-on-may-28-skin-you-a/WebOS!]]>May 19th 2010 10:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/o2-uk-will-get-palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-on-may-28-skin-you-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/o2-uk-will-get-palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-on-may-28-skin-you-a/May 19th 2010 6:14AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/o2-uk-will-get-palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-on-may-28-skin-you-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/o2-uk-will-get-palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-on-may-28-skin-you-a/
Very True, Lol. I have to turn 3G off just to get a signal.]]>May 19th 2010 6:54AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/o2-uk-will-get-palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-on-may-28-skin-you-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/o2-uk-will-get-palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-on-may-28-skin-you-a/May 19th 2010 10:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/o2-uk-will-get-palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-on-may-28-skin-you-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/o2-uk-will-get-palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-on-may-28-skin-you-a/
Very true, my brother is on O2 and can barely make calls.

Now im worried about the Mini 5 being an O2 exclusive, hopefully we can buy sim free from Dell cos i aint giving O2 my money.]]>May 19th 2010 11:23AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/o2-uk-will-get-palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-on-may-28-skin-you-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/o2-uk-will-get-palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-on-may-28-skin-you-a/May 19th 2010 6:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/o2-uk-will-get-palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-on-may-28-skin-you-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/o2-uk-will-get-palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-on-may-28-skin-you-a/May 19th 2010 6:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/o2-uk-will-get-palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-on-may-28-skin-you-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/o2-uk-will-get-palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-on-may-28-skin-you-a/
I'm not sure about US contracts but that is very expensive (£25=roughly $37).

To put this into perspective, I recently got a free HTC Desire on a 18 month contract with 300min, unlimited texts and data for £25 a month. I can't understand why someone would pay this much for these phones unfortunately, which is sad as WebOS is great.]]>May 19th 2010 7:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/o2-uk-will-get-palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-on-may-28-skin-you-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/o2-uk-will-get-palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-on-may-28-skin-you-a/May 19th 2010 8:14AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/o2-uk-will-get-palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-on-may-28-skin-you-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/o2-uk-will-get-palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-on-may-28-skin-you-a/
450 minutes, unlimited text and data.

How much? $70. So, nearly 48 GBP per month, on a 2 year contract... and you still have to pay $100 for the phone, or $50 if it's a Pixi.]]>May 19th 2010 8:29AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/o2-uk-will-get-palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-on-may-28-skin-you-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/o2-uk-will-get-palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-on-may-28-skin-you-a/
I suppose you have to take into account population density.

Carriers in the US must have much high overheads due to how spread out people are and the sheer size of the country. Plus they may also be shafting you guys....]]>May 19th 2010 8:36AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/o2-uk-will-get-palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-on-may-28-skin-you-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/o2-uk-will-get-palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-on-may-28-skin-you-a/
Also the fact you have both CDMA and GSM carriers may come into play, as competition won't be as good (people can't switch so easily etc.).]]>May 19th 2010 8:37AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/o2-uk-will-get-palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-on-may-28-skin-you-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/o2-uk-will-get-palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-on-may-28-skin-you-a/May 19th 2010 9:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/o2-uk-will-get-palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-on-may-28-skin-you-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/o2-uk-will-get-palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-on-may-28-skin-you-a/May 19th 2010 6:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/o2-uk-will-get-palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-on-may-28-skin-you-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/o2-uk-will-get-palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-on-may-28-skin-you-a/May 19th 2010 7:39AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/o2-uk-will-get-palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-on-may-28-skin-you-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/o2-uk-will-get-palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-on-may-28-skin-you-a/
I know WebOS is amazing and all so I'm not attacking it, but more the aging hardware, lack of momentum, etc. ]]>May 19th 2010 7:52AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/o2-uk-will-get-palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-on-may-28-skin-you-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/o2-uk-will-get-palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-on-may-28-skin-you-a/
My iPhone contract on O2 is expiring end of June and I'm not sure whether to wait for the next iPhone or go for the Pre Plus. Is WebOS a good substitute? Please advise! Thanks. ]]>May 19th 2010 8:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/o2-uk-will-get-palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-on-may-28-skin-you-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/o2-uk-will-get-palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-on-may-28-skin-you-a/
At the moment my Pre is being fixed (The only way in which the iPhone beats the Pre, in my opinion is in build quality, and by quite a long way), and going back to my old iPhone 2G feels like going back in time a bit.

I really miss being able to have more than one card open. Although multitasking on a phone always seemed stupid to me, when it is taken away from you, it kind of feels very natural on the pre.]]>May 19th 2010 8:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/o2-uk-will-get-palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-on-may-28-skin-you-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/o2-uk-will-get-palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-on-may-28-skin-you-a/Thanks again!]]>May 19th 2010 10:28AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/o2-uk-will-get-palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-on-may-28-skin-you-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/o2-uk-will-get-palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-on-may-28-skin-you-a/
The maps is Google Maps, and is OK. GPS seems to be reasonably accurate, although I don't have any other phone to compare to, it finds satellites faster than my old Garmin eTrex, although it isn't as accurate (Although fine for navigating around roads, I had trouble finding a Micro Geocache, although it was also under tree cover).

No compass, which is a slight annoyance, as I do think that all of the augmented reality things on the 3GS look cool, but I haven't found it to be a major issue. One annoying thing is that there doesn't seem to be any turn by turn navigation apps, which would be really cool, but maybe they will come one day.

Overall though, WebOS is excellent, like really good, but the hardware is only okish.

(I mentioned that mine was being fixed, the front screen became wobbly. It does have a 2 year warranty though, although I'm not sure how Palm being bought by HP will affect that)]]>May 19th 2010 1:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/o2-uk-will-get-palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-on-may-28-skin-you-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/o2-uk-will-get-palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-on-may-28-skin-you-a/
300 Mins, Unlimited Txt and Unlimited Internet + Wifi, good deal, shame about the 3G coverage though!]]>May 19th 2010 8:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/o2-uk-will-get-palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-on-may-28-skin-you-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/o2-uk-will-get-palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-on-may-28-skin-you-a/May 19th 2010 8:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/o2-uk-will-get-palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-on-may-28-skin-you-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/o2-uk-will-get-palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-on-may-28-skin-you-a/May 19th 2010 9:42AM