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China isn't the only place that has this problem either.]]>May 19th 2010 3:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/undercover-chinese-reporter-exposes-foxconn-working-conditions/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/undercover-chinese-reporter-exposes-foxconn-working-conditions/
Anyway, why do the workers have to pay for counseling? That's pretty much insult to injury. Those counselors (who had better be doing a good job) should be out of pocket from Foxconn, since these stressed-out workers are under their boot, after all.

That article pic makes me sad.]]>May 19th 2010 3:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/undercover-chinese-reporter-exposes-foxconn-working-conditions/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/undercover-chinese-reporter-exposes-foxconn-working-conditions/May 19th 2010 3:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/undercover-chinese-reporter-exposes-foxconn-working-conditions/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/undercover-chinese-reporter-exposes-foxconn-working-conditions/
But isn't it a good thing that such a high profile company gets called out on it?

Hopefully the media storms over things like this will force a change in the system, for the little companies as well as the global giants.]]>May 19th 2010 3:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/undercover-chinese-reporter-exposes-foxconn-working-conditions/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/undercover-chinese-reporter-exposes-foxconn-working-conditions/
Oh please, Foxconn makes stuff for a lot of other companies besides Apple. Don't try to turn this into some fake witch hunt against Apple.]]>May 19th 2010 3:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/undercover-chinese-reporter-exposes-foxconn-working-conditions/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/undercover-chinese-reporter-exposes-foxconn-working-conditions/but u know what? the chinese government was the only government that did almost no effort to it. the result from the Chinese police for the last guy that suicided was that he stabbed him 5 times, and jumped over a fence. Theres no equity in that society. One of my Chinese friend said: LIFE IS LIKE BEING RAPED, IF U CANT RESIST IT, U ENJOY IT. They dare not to do anything against the grand CCP. Even on the internet, theres an invisible great firewall to isolate them from the freedom world.]]>May 19th 2010 3:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/undercover-chinese-reporter-exposes-foxconn-working-conditions/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/undercover-chinese-reporter-exposes-foxconn-working-conditions/May 19th 2010 3:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/undercover-chinese-reporter-exposes-foxconn-working-conditions/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/undercover-chinese-reporter-exposes-foxconn-working-conditions/I'll admit it.
I laughed.]]>May 19th 2010 3:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/undercover-chinese-reporter-exposes-foxconn-working-conditions/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/undercover-chinese-reporter-exposes-foxconn-working-conditions/
UltraSurf FTW]]>May 19th 2010 3:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/undercover-chinese-reporter-exposes-foxconn-working-conditions/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/undercover-chinese-reporter-exposes-foxconn-working-conditions/May 19th 2010 3:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/undercover-chinese-reporter-exposes-foxconn-working-conditions/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/undercover-chinese-reporter-exposes-foxconn-working-conditions/Their 900 Yuan base salary is right at the national average monthly salary for "unskilled" or "uneducated" manufacturing jobs in China. This income is a pretty good deal for most of these people, and generally improves the quality of their family's lives.

You have to put everything in perspective. ]]>May 19th 2010 3:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/undercover-chinese-reporter-exposes-foxconn-working-conditions/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/undercover-chinese-reporter-exposes-foxconn-working-conditions/May 19th 2010 4:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/undercover-chinese-reporter-exposes-foxconn-working-conditions/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/undercover-chinese-reporter-exposes-foxconn-working-conditions/May 19th 2010 4:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/undercover-chinese-reporter-exposes-foxconn-working-conditions/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/undercover-chinese-reporter-exposes-foxconn-working-conditions/
Contrast that with Apple, all Foxconn does is build a couple products for them on contract.]]>May 19th 2010 4:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/undercover-chinese-reporter-exposes-foxconn-working-conditions/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/undercover-chinese-reporter-exposes-foxconn-working-conditions/May 19th 2010 4:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/undercover-chinese-reporter-exposes-foxconn-working-conditions/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/undercover-chinese-reporter-exposes-foxconn-working-conditions/exactly, they make plenty of mobos.]]>May 19th 2010 4:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/undercover-chinese-reporter-exposes-foxconn-working-conditions/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/undercover-chinese-reporter-exposes-foxconn-working-conditions/
Foxconn also sounds super evil]]>May 19th 2010 4:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/undercover-chinese-reporter-exposes-foxconn-working-conditions/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/undercover-chinese-reporter-exposes-foxconn-working-conditions/
All that red on the HTC Incredible is some overworked factory workers blood!

]]>May 19th 2010 5:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/undercover-chinese-reporter-exposes-foxconn-working-conditions/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/undercover-chinese-reporter-exposes-foxconn-working-conditions/No the reason is a worker commited suicide based soley on harassement due to his loss of an Apple product. Sure maybe he should have been punished or even fired for losing an prototype, but to harass him until he commitied suicide is why Apple and Foxconn are under the spotlight. This is not to make light of other factories or other companies that hire Foxconn.

ONLY Apple's insane policies were ones that caused a suicide based on American originated policies. The rest are Chinese and Foxconn policies in regards to low wage and overtime and working conditions.

And even if you disagree with me, or are a blind Apple fan. This is a blessing in disguise. A call to action to improve working conditions everywhere. It also further makes it a joke that anyone one thing China was in any way Socialist. As poor working conditions is the opposite of what Socialist aims to achieve. No China is a totalitarian regime with snippets of Capitalism and Communism. But very little of Socialistic policies such as those found in Norway, UK, France etc...]]>May 19th 2010 5:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/undercover-chinese-reporter-exposes-foxconn-working-conditions/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/undercover-chinese-reporter-exposes-foxconn-working-conditions/nah, won't change Shit
it is a good thing for media companies, like saying they helped a kid in darfour, needs to be done every so often.

then the feeling in the population dissapears easilly. the best amnesia pill, why! go on a shopping spree, hit the plastic card, and buy chap stuff without thinking of foxcom anymore]]>May 19th 2010 5:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/undercover-chinese-reporter-exposes-foxconn-working-conditions/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/undercover-chinese-reporter-exposes-foxconn-working-conditions/Well, we all know that sh*t won't stick to Apple.
They will dodge this bullet, too.]]>May 19th 2010 5:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/undercover-chinese-reporter-exposes-foxconn-working-conditions/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/undercover-chinese-reporter-exposes-foxconn-working-conditions/
There is no way a correlation can be drawn, the way the people who jumped on the anti-Apple bandwagon want to believe.

In a population of 400,000 factory workers there are bound to be suicides or suicide attempts, you'd probably find that occurring almost anywhere on earth.

Is it higher, lower or the same?]]>May 19th 2010 5:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/undercover-chinese-reporter-exposes-foxconn-working-conditions/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/undercover-chinese-reporter-exposes-foxconn-working-conditions/lol]]>May 19th 2010 5:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/undercover-chinese-reporter-exposes-foxconn-working-conditions/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/undercover-chinese-reporter-exposes-foxconn-working-conditions/May 19th 2010 5:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/undercover-chinese-reporter-exposes-foxconn-working-conditions/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/undercover-chinese-reporter-exposes-foxconn-working-conditions/May 19th 2010 5:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/undercover-chinese-reporter-exposes-foxconn-working-conditions/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/undercover-chinese-reporter-exposes-foxconn-working-conditions/I know foxconn owns XFX...thats all one pc builder would know about foxconn here in the states..other than that...their tied to apple.]]>May 19th 2010 6:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/undercover-chinese-reporter-exposes-foxconn-working-conditions/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/undercover-chinese-reporter-exposes-foxconn-working-conditions/May 19th 2010 7:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/undercover-chinese-reporter-exposes-foxconn-working-conditions/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/undercover-chinese-reporter-exposes-foxconn-working-conditions/
"Foxconn has now set up support lines, stress relief rooms, counseling classes, and ¥200 ($29) rewards for reporting a colleague's mood disorder."]]>May 19th 2010 7:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/undercover-chinese-reporter-exposes-foxconn-working-conditions/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/undercover-chinese-reporter-exposes-foxconn-working-conditions/
Don't kid yourself no matter what extra price pressure Android handsets have, Apple doesn't pay anymore for their manufacturing; they just charge YOU the extra premium]]>May 19th 2010 7:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/undercover-chinese-reporter-exposes-foxconn-working-conditions/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/undercover-chinese-reporter-exposes-foxconn-working-conditions/May 19th 2010 9:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/undercover-chinese-reporter-exposes-foxconn-working-conditions/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/undercover-chinese-reporter-exposes-foxconn-working-conditions/That's not true, I used to buy Foxconn cases before I bought an Apple product..]]>May 19th 2010 9:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/undercover-chinese-reporter-exposes-foxconn-working-conditions/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/undercover-chinese-reporter-exposes-foxconn-working-conditions/May 19th 2010 9:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/undercover-chinese-reporter-exposes-foxconn-working-conditions/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/undercover-chinese-reporter-exposes-foxconn-working-conditions/May 29th 2010 6:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/undercover-chinese-reporter-exposes-foxconn-working-conditions/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/undercover-chinese-reporter-exposes-foxconn-working-conditions/May 19th 2010 3:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/undercover-chinese-reporter-exposes-foxconn-working-conditions/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/undercover-chinese-reporter-exposes-foxconn-working-conditions/May 19th 2010 3:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/undercover-chinese-reporter-exposes-foxconn-working-conditions/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/undercover-chinese-reporter-exposes-foxconn-working-conditions/May 19th 2010 3:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/undercover-chinese-reporter-exposes-foxconn-working-conditions/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/undercover-chinese-reporter-exposes-foxconn-working-conditions/
Apple, Dell, HP, Sony, Amazon, etc...

So basically, every company that makes Hardware in the world...seriously, this isn't a problem that can be solved in an instant. Almost every corporation that manufactures hardware sends its business to China. Consumers and End Users usually do not care where their products come from...When was the last time you bought an Apple product that said: "Produced by Fair Labour"...

There needs to a political solution on China's part, and a move by the companies to either enforce certain regulations on their producers, even if it comes as a hit on their revenues, or take initiative on moving their business elsewhere...I hear Southeast Asia and India are good markets...]]>May 19th 2010 3:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/undercover-chinese-reporter-exposes-foxconn-working-conditions/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/undercover-chinese-reporter-exposes-foxconn-working-conditions/"and a move by the companies to either enforce certain regulations on their producers, even if it comes as a hit on their revenues, or take initiative on moving their business elsewhere"

Come on, the people in charge of companies don't have souls. They only way this to be fixed is for countries start forcing the companies to be nice.]]>May 19th 2010 4:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/undercover-chinese-reporter-exposes-foxconn-working-conditions/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/undercover-chinese-reporter-exposes-foxconn-working-conditions/May 19th 2010 5:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/undercover-chinese-reporter-exposes-foxconn-working-conditions/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/undercover-chinese-reporter-exposes-foxconn-working-conditions/If Apple decided to make a US plant with all that money it has sitting around that would be, imo, amazing. Then hopefully other corporations would follow suit. Or the other way around, Just some big company. ]]>May 19th 2010 6:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/undercover-chinese-reporter-exposes-foxconn-working-conditions/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/undercover-chinese-reporter-exposes-foxconn-working-conditions/May 19th 2010 7:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/undercover-chinese-reporter-exposes-foxconn-working-conditions/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/undercover-chinese-reporter-exposes-foxconn-working-conditions/May 19th 2010 10:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/undercover-chinese-reporter-exposes-foxconn-working-conditions/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/undercover-chinese-reporter-exposes-foxconn-working-conditions/May 19th 2010 3:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/undercover-chinese-reporter-exposes-foxconn-working-conditions/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/undercover-chinese-reporter-exposes-foxconn-working-conditions/
That being (incoherently) said, I still would balk at paying $1000 for a U.S.- built cell phone that would probably fall apart in 6 months, so I am part of the problem too. ]]>May 19th 2010 4:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/undercover-chinese-reporter-exposes-foxconn-working-conditions/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/undercover-chinese-reporter-exposes-foxconn-working-conditions/
If they fail to meet those standards, the company can act (Move supplier / fine them (reduce order quantity and move later OR withhold payments) etc etc)

It is a big if, but hole countries have managed to agree on minimum standards of working conditions, I think 20 or so companies could agree on this in years, if not months.

It's not about telling people how to run their show, its about telling them how they can get your business and money. If they dont want it, there are actually a lot of other factories that do.]]>May 19th 2010 5:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/undercover-chinese-reporter-exposes-foxconn-working-conditions/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/undercover-chinese-reporter-exposes-foxconn-working-conditions/
my next tablet will have a metal coil and paper...

]]>May 19th 2010 3:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/undercover-chinese-reporter-exposes-foxconn-working-conditions/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/undercover-chinese-reporter-exposes-foxconn-working-conditions/
Yeah, because no living thing was harmed in making those things...]]>May 19th 2010 3:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/undercover-chinese-reporter-exposes-foxconn-working-conditions/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/undercover-chinese-reporter-exposes-foxconn-working-conditions/May 19th 2010 3:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/undercover-chinese-reporter-exposes-foxconn-working-conditions/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/19/undercover-chinese-reporter-exposes-foxconn-working-conditions/
It's merely because the ones with longer work hours can't find bigger trees to hang themselves from. Trust me, I've watched them try.]]>May 19th 2010 6:20PM