http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/nokia-n8-launching-august-24-we-hear-amazon-germany-taking-47/ Engadget Comments for http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/nokia-n8-launching-august-24-we-hear-amazon-germany-taking-47/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/nokia-n8-launching-august-24-we-hear-amazon-germany-taking-47/May 21st 2010 3:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/nokia-n8-launching-august-24-we-hear-amazon-germany-taking-47/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/nokia-n8-launching-august-24-we-hear-amazon-germany-taking-47/May 21st 2010 3:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/nokia-n8-launching-august-24-we-hear-amazon-germany-taking-47/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/nokia-n8-launching-august-24-we-hear-amazon-germany-taking-47/
And of course, by that, I meant Lost: The Complete Collection on BluRay.]]>May 21st 2010 3:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/nokia-n8-launching-august-24-we-hear-amazon-germany-taking-47/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/nokia-n8-launching-august-24-we-hear-amazon-germany-taking-47/May 21st 2010 3:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/nokia-n8-launching-august-24-we-hear-amazon-germany-taking-47/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/nokia-n8-launching-august-24-we-hear-amazon-germany-taking-47/lost is so boring]]>May 21st 2010 3:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/nokia-n8-launching-august-24-we-hear-amazon-germany-taking-47/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/nokia-n8-launching-august-24-we-hear-amazon-germany-taking-47/
Have you seen this final season? Or 80 percent of the episodes? It's a great show! ]]>May 21st 2010 7:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/nokia-n8-launching-august-24-we-hear-amazon-germany-taking-47/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/nokia-n8-launching-august-24-we-hear-amazon-germany-taking-47/May 21st 2010 3:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/nokia-n8-launching-august-24-we-hear-amazon-germany-taking-47/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/nokia-n8-launching-august-24-we-hear-amazon-germany-taking-47/May 21st 2010 3:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/nokia-n8-launching-august-24-we-hear-amazon-germany-taking-47/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/nokia-n8-launching-august-24-we-hear-amazon-germany-taking-47/
And isn't the phone unsubsidized?]]>May 21st 2010 3:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/nokia-n8-launching-august-24-we-hear-amazon-germany-taking-47/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/nokia-n8-launching-august-24-we-hear-amazon-germany-taking-47/May 21st 2010 3:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/nokia-n8-launching-august-24-we-hear-amazon-germany-taking-47/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/nokia-n8-launching-august-24-we-hear-amazon-germany-taking-47/May 21st 2010 3:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/nokia-n8-launching-august-24-we-hear-amazon-germany-taking-47/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/nokia-n8-launching-august-24-we-hear-amazon-germany-taking-47/
Or a Nexus One which is even cheaper]]>May 21st 2010 3:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/nokia-n8-launching-august-24-we-hear-amazon-germany-taking-47/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/nokia-n8-launching-august-24-we-hear-amazon-germany-taking-47/Well it's Nokia so the price will be different in every place. I would expect ~420 price in the release date.
Hoping for earlier release date still.
]]>May 21st 2010 3:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/nokia-n8-launching-august-24-we-hear-amazon-germany-taking-47/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/nokia-n8-launching-august-24-we-hear-amazon-germany-taking-47/(I can't believe I'm defending the d0uchebag HTC here, they didn't even release the Desire in the US)]]>May 21st 2010 3:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/nokia-n8-launching-august-24-we-hear-amazon-germany-taking-47/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/nokia-n8-launching-august-24-we-hear-amazon-germany-taking-47/Honestly sometimes i wonder if anybody in these USA based blogs have seen unlocked prices...
Nexus One is 666 euros in Amazon.de
http://www.amazon.de/Google-Nexus-One-Deutsch-Schwarz/dp/B00332YPHQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=ce-de&qid=1274469955&sr=1-1]]>May 21st 2010 3:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/nokia-n8-launching-august-24-we-hear-amazon-germany-taking-47/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/nokia-n8-launching-august-24-we-hear-amazon-germany-taking-47/May 21st 2010 3:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/nokia-n8-launching-august-24-we-hear-amazon-germany-taking-47/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/nokia-n8-launching-august-24-we-hear-amazon-germany-taking-47/
The OS is subjective and it all comes down to personal taste, so I can't argue which is better, but bare-bones, you're getting more in the N8 than on the Desire.]]>May 21st 2010 3:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/nokia-n8-launching-august-24-we-hear-amazon-germany-taking-47/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/nokia-n8-launching-august-24-we-hear-amazon-germany-taking-47/
Yh you're right, I was comparing US prices btw]]>May 21st 2010 3:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/nokia-n8-launching-august-24-we-hear-amazon-germany-taking-47/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/nokia-n8-launching-august-24-we-hear-amazon-germany-taking-47/
Anyway, this could very well be my next phone, replacing my Nokia N95. I hope Symbian^3 doesn't disappoint.]]>May 21st 2010 3:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/nokia-n8-launching-august-24-we-hear-amazon-germany-taking-47/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/nokia-n8-launching-august-24-we-hear-amazon-germany-taking-47/
Thing that i'm not sure yet is S^3. ]]>May 21st 2010 3:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/nokia-n8-launching-august-24-we-hear-amazon-germany-taking-47/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/nokia-n8-launching-august-24-we-hear-amazon-germany-taking-47/Look at this site: http://www.photoble.com/photo-inspiration/amazing-pictures-taken-with-an-apple-iphone/
Those pics are taken with a lowly iPhone camera.

As for "better hardware," the N8 is using the same processor, albeit at higher clockspeed, as my old E51. People are bashing the Pre for being "old," yet praising the N8? :rolleyes:]]>May 21st 2010 4:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/nokia-n8-launching-august-24-we-hear-amazon-germany-taking-47/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/nokia-n8-launching-august-24-we-hear-amazon-germany-taking-47/There is only one place where the Desire wins hands down and that is on the CPU front. Not like that matters much as symbian is a better OS on lower-spec hardware and before you complain I'll give you a quick breakdown of what I mean:
1.Symbian supports writeable demand paging aka swap memory
2.Symbian supports gpu hardware acceleration. The cpu doesnt push any data to the display.
3.Parallel processing with lower powered processors has proven time and again that with the right software it is more efficient both power and speed wise. Android doesn't support hardware acceleration.
4. Android runs in a virtual machine environment, not the case with symbian.

The hardware is only as good as the software running on it :-)]]>May 21st 2010 4:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/nokia-n8-launching-august-24-we-hear-amazon-germany-taking-47/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/nokia-n8-launching-august-24-we-hear-amazon-germany-taking-47/
Oh for f**Ks sake.

Photos taken with mobile phone cameras depend on a few things - scanning density, flash and, most importantly, sensor size. The one in the N8 is massive so, yes, it does make a difference and, yes, it can justify the megapixel count.

Not all camera units are the same.]]>May 21st 2010 4:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/nokia-n8-launching-august-24-we-hear-amazon-germany-taking-47/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/nokia-n8-launching-august-24-we-hear-amazon-germany-taking-47/
I dig the phone...torn between this or the Evo 4G. Ironically enough. ]]>May 21st 2010 5:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/nokia-n8-launching-august-24-we-hear-amazon-germany-taking-47/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/nokia-n8-launching-august-24-we-hear-amazon-germany-taking-47/Are you willing to sell yourself to sprint? And only sprint with no ability to roam?
If that isn't an issue i'd probably plunge for the Evo, its a pretty decent device.
Plus you don't know if symbian^3 will appeal to your tastes.
Me, I'm waiting patiently and hoping not to be disappointed.]]>May 21st 2010 5:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/nokia-n8-launching-august-24-we-hear-amazon-germany-taking-47/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/nokia-n8-launching-august-24-we-hear-amazon-germany-taking-47/
@Chris Ziegler, the apparent reason is very likely taxes, with a small premium on top.]]>May 21st 2010 3:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/nokia-n8-launching-august-24-we-hear-amazon-germany-taking-47/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/nokia-n8-launching-august-24-we-hear-amazon-germany-taking-47/May 22nd 2010 3:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/nokia-n8-launching-august-24-we-hear-amazon-germany-taking-47/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/nokia-n8-launching-august-24-we-hear-amazon-germany-taking-47/
No. Theres no way a manufacturer could give the suggest retail prices with taxes as they wary from 7% to 25%. That is why they give them in international press releases as tax free. If its a press release to single european country then they will include taxes, but when its international its without taxes.]]>May 22nd 2010 4:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/nokia-n8-launching-august-24-we-hear-amazon-germany-taking-47/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/nokia-n8-launching-august-24-we-hear-amazon-germany-taking-47/May 21st 2010 3:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/nokia-n8-launching-august-24-we-hear-amazon-germany-taking-47/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/nokia-n8-launching-august-24-we-hear-amazon-germany-taking-47/
I think you should order one anyway. For a full hands on review. ;-) ]]>May 21st 2010 3:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/nokia-n8-launching-august-24-we-hear-amazon-germany-taking-47/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/nokia-n8-launching-august-24-we-hear-amazon-germany-taking-47/May 21st 2010 3:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/nokia-n8-launching-august-24-we-hear-amazon-germany-taking-47/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/nokia-n8-launching-august-24-we-hear-amazon-germany-taking-47/
Of course. All telcos are supported.]]>May 21st 2010 3:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/nokia-n8-launching-august-24-we-hear-amazon-germany-taking-47/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/nokia-n8-launching-august-24-we-hear-amazon-germany-taking-47/May 21st 2010 3:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/nokia-n8-launching-august-24-we-hear-amazon-germany-taking-47/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/nokia-n8-launching-august-24-we-hear-amazon-germany-taking-47/May 21st 2010 3:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/nokia-n8-launching-august-24-we-hear-amazon-germany-taking-47/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/nokia-n8-launching-august-24-we-hear-amazon-germany-taking-47/Does it support 3G frequencies of T-mobile only, or AT&T as well ?]]>May 21st 2010 3:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/nokia-n8-launching-august-24-we-hear-amazon-germany-taking-47/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/nokia-n8-launching-august-24-we-hear-amazon-germany-taking-47/
T-Mo supports the 1700 and 2100 bands, so the N8 will work on their 3G.]]>May 21st 2010 3:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/nokia-n8-launching-august-24-we-hear-amazon-germany-taking-47/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/nokia-n8-launching-august-24-we-hear-amazon-germany-taking-47/It's 4 band GSM and 5 band 3G, so it should support T-mo and At&t]]>May 21st 2010 3:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/nokia-n8-launching-august-24-we-hear-amazon-germany-taking-47/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/nokia-n8-launching-august-24-we-hear-amazon-germany-taking-47/May 21st 2010 4:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/nokia-n8-launching-august-24-we-hear-amazon-germany-taking-47/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/nokia-n8-launching-august-24-we-hear-amazon-germany-taking-47/May 21st 2010 4:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/nokia-n8-launching-august-24-we-hear-amazon-germany-taking-47/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/nokia-n8-launching-august-24-we-hear-amazon-germany-taking-47/ZDNet wrote: "I want to stress the importance of this 5-band WCDMA technology. Here in the US GSM customers from carriers like T-Mobile and AT&T have always had to make a choice between handsets because there are two different 3G wireless frequencies that have never before been supported in a single device. With the Nokia N8 supporting both carriers 3G wireless data networks Nokia can enter the US market with a very compelling product as the user has a choice to use it with their preferred carrier."
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/cell-phones/nokia-announces-n8-device-with-5-band-wcdma-technology/3661]]>May 21st 2010 4:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/nokia-n8-launching-august-24-we-hear-amazon-germany-taking-47/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/nokia-n8-launching-august-24-we-hear-amazon-germany-taking-47/May 21st 2010 6:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/nokia-n8-launching-august-24-we-hear-amazon-germany-taking-47/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/nokia-n8-launching-august-24-we-hear-amazon-germany-taking-47/Wow, that's awesome. Kudos to Nokia for doing a 5(!) band UMTS. Just another proof that HTC is a big d0uchebag (and Palm too). This is cool. Hopefully this is the trend for ANY GSM/UMTS phones, including iPhones.]]>May 22nd 2010 4:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/nokia-n8-launching-august-24-we-hear-amazon-germany-taking-47/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/nokia-n8-launching-august-24-we-hear-amazon-germany-taking-47/May 21st 2010 3:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/nokia-n8-launching-august-24-we-hear-amazon-germany-taking-47/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/nokia-n8-launching-august-24-we-hear-amazon-germany-taking-47/I'm kind of in a same boat.
I ahve always liked Symbian(till 3rd edition) so S^3 looks pretty nice and it will support Qt based applications that's very important while the UI is not build on Qt like MeeGo and Symbian^4.

If N8 will be released in late August i will just wait for the real next generations smartphone using MeeGo from this year. It will anyways be much more future prooft as it's totally build upon Qt. Probally 200 euros more expensive too looking at the price range but i'll manage. ]]>May 21st 2010 3:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/nokia-n8-launching-august-24-we-hear-amazon-germany-taking-47/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/nokia-n8-launching-august-24-we-hear-amazon-germany-taking-47/it's easy to hate on them on one side they really made phones who aren't appealing to me at all( n97 and so on) on the other hand maemo is brilliant . i can't believe it's of the same company who made symbian....]]>May 21st 2010 4:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/nokia-n8-launching-august-24-we-hear-amazon-germany-taking-47/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/nokia-n8-launching-august-24-we-hear-amazon-germany-taking-47/May 21st 2010 3:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/nokia-n8-launching-august-24-we-hear-amazon-germany-taking-47/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/nokia-n8-launching-august-24-we-hear-amazon-germany-taking-47/May 21st 2010 3:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/nokia-n8-launching-august-24-we-hear-amazon-germany-taking-47/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/nokia-n8-launching-august-24-we-hear-amazon-germany-taking-47/Nokias dumbphones are GOOD, I am a proud owner of 6700 but people are moving towards smartphones....]]>May 21st 2010 3:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/nokia-n8-launching-august-24-we-hear-amazon-germany-taking-47/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/nokia-n8-launching-august-24-we-hear-amazon-germany-taking-47/You realize that this is not a dumbphone, right? It actually has better hardware specs than the Droid.]]>May 21st 2010 3:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/nokia-n8-launching-august-24-we-hear-amazon-germany-taking-47/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/nokia-n8-launching-august-24-we-hear-amazon-germany-taking-47/
I have actually used the N8 hands-on (about 1 hour hands-on time). Trust me, in terms of browsing, multitasking (including switching between multiple apps), music even Symbian^3 is head and shoulders above whatever Android has. The Ovi Maps experience was not that great - I am not a fan of the current Ovi Maps UI. The main complaint I have is that the icons are just waaay too dated. I meant looking at the music player icon you would never realize that the underlying app is so cool to use. The UI is pretty smooth even in the early build software the phone had (but more updated than apparently what the ads on YouTube show) and the screen is just gorgeous with capacitive sensitivity rivaling that of the iPhone. Most of the annoying S60v5 messages are gone except I think 1 or 2 occasional ones (dont remember for sure). The camera is just out of this world (no kidding) - it actually works better and gives better pics than my $200.- P&S. The face tracking is pretty smart on this one and I hear it might be coming with Nokia's panorama app so you can shoot panoramas in 1 sweep.

To be honest, given a choice between the N1 and N8 (I have used both and have the N1), I would go for the N8.

Dont get fooled by the app processor Ghz numbers being bandied about - they are as useful as bandying about Megapixel numbers without knowing about the image sensor size.]]>May 21st 2010 3:47PM