http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/intel-kills-larrabee-discrete-gpu-will-focus-on-integrated-grap/ Engadget Comments for Intel kills Larrabee discrete GPU, will focus on integrated graphics http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/intel-kills-larrabee-discrete-gpu-will-focus-on-integrated-grap/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/intel-kills-larrabee-discrete-gpu-will-focus-on-integrated-grap/May 25th 2010 3:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/intel-kills-larrabee-discrete-gpu-will-focus-on-integrated-grap/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/intel-kills-larrabee-discrete-gpu-will-focus-on-integrated-grap/that patent suit with intel is only over chipsets. nvidia and ati (amd, technically) can both make discrete graphics chips for any intel platform.. that whole last paragraph seems quite misinformed.

correct me if i'm wrong nilay]]>May 25th 2010 4:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/intel-kills-larrabee-discrete-gpu-will-focus-on-integrated-grap/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/intel-kills-larrabee-discrete-gpu-will-focus-on-integrated-grap/May 25th 2010 4:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/intel-kills-larrabee-discrete-gpu-will-focus-on-integrated-grap/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/intel-kills-larrabee-discrete-gpu-will-focus-on-integrated-grap/
I fail to understand this statement:

"...so right now the only high-power GPU options for Intel's faster chips come from ATI."

Intel's faster chips are the i7 9XX series that use the X58 chipset...and both Nvidia and ATI provide discrete GPUs for ANY Intel CPU...

The only thing Nvidia cannot make for the Core i3/i5/i7 is a native chipset, like past nForce series, which were great, but had their problems...

Almost all high-end Intel systems use EITHER NVIDIA graphics cards or ATI ones...and a lot of servers now have Tesla within...

Last I checked, AMD was NOT making chipsets with ATI GPUs integrated for Intel...

So how is ATI the only company providing high-powered GPU options for Intel's "faster chips" again?]]>May 25th 2010 4:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/intel-kills-larrabee-discrete-gpu-will-focus-on-integrated-grap/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/intel-kills-larrabee-discrete-gpu-will-focus-on-integrated-grap/May 25th 2010 4:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/intel-kills-larrabee-discrete-gpu-will-focus-on-integrated-grap/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/intel-kills-larrabee-discrete-gpu-will-focus-on-integrated-grap/
See...THIS is why I love Engadget...

Editors actually take time to read some comments and correct tiny mistakes and remove bias...unlike some other tech blog we all know...]]>May 25th 2010 4:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/intel-kills-larrabee-discrete-gpu-will-focus-on-integrated-grap/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/intel-kills-larrabee-discrete-gpu-will-focus-on-integrated-grap/Tell me about it. Giz couldn't even correct a Froyo Flash speed test. They just went with the worst results, and didn't even bother posting the second video. They're trying way to hard to get back on Apple's good side.

http://gizmodo.com/5546439/speed-tests-show-flash-101-slowing-down-android-22-significantly

http://pocketnow.com/software-1/round-2-android-22-froyo-web-browser-speed-test-and-comparison

On topic: Did any ever expect an excellent discrete GPU?]]>May 25th 2010 4:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/intel-kills-larrabee-discrete-gpu-will-focus-on-integrated-grap/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/intel-kills-larrabee-discrete-gpu-will-focus-on-integrated-grap/]]>May 25th 2010 6:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/intel-kills-larrabee-discrete-gpu-will-focus-on-integrated-grap/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/intel-kills-larrabee-discrete-gpu-will-focus-on-integrated-grap/
Who is surprised by this?
]]>May 25th 2010 6:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/intel-kills-larrabee-discrete-gpu-will-focus-on-integrated-grap/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/intel-kills-larrabee-discrete-gpu-will-focus-on-integrated-grap/It is not dead which can eternal lie, yet with stranger aeons, even Death may die...]]>May 25th 2010 9:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/intel-kills-larrabee-discrete-gpu-will-focus-on-integrated-grap/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/intel-kills-larrabee-discrete-gpu-will-focus-on-integrated-grap/May 26th 2010 9:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/intel-kills-larrabee-discrete-gpu-will-focus-on-integrated-grap/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/intel-kills-larrabee-discrete-gpu-will-focus-on-integrated-grap/May 25th 2010 3:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/intel-kills-larrabee-discrete-gpu-will-focus-on-integrated-grap/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/intel-kills-larrabee-discrete-gpu-will-focus-on-integrated-grap/
And I fail to see why you're posting the same remark to each top poster. You're comment is not related to their comment, you just wanted to get your two cents in near the top instead of by posting a new comment like you should have. Please try the "Post" option instead of "Reply"]]>May 25th 2010 4:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/intel-kills-larrabee-discrete-gpu-will-focus-on-integrated-grap/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/intel-kills-larrabee-discrete-gpu-will-focus-on-integrated-grap/
The double posting was an honest mistake and I cannot remove it.

As for the posting under someone else's comment...I guess you are new to Engadget...Welcome...]]>May 25th 2010 4:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/intel-kills-larrabee-discrete-gpu-will-focus-on-integrated-grap/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/intel-kills-larrabee-discrete-gpu-will-focus-on-integrated-grap/
/me walks into the server room and looks at the rack with Itanic server

Honestly, I'm not really that sure.]]>May 25th 2010 5:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/intel-kills-larrabee-discrete-gpu-will-focus-on-integrated-grap/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/intel-kills-larrabee-discrete-gpu-will-focus-on-integrated-grap/May 25th 2010 3:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/intel-kills-larrabee-discrete-gpu-will-focus-on-integrated-grap/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/intel-kills-larrabee-discrete-gpu-will-focus-on-integrated-grap/http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/05/intels-larrabee-graphics-processor-delayed-downsized-to-mere-s/]]>May 25th 2010 5:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/intel-kills-larrabee-discrete-gpu-will-focus-on-integrated-grap/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/intel-kills-larrabee-discrete-gpu-will-focus-on-integrated-grap/May 25th 2010 4:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/intel-kills-larrabee-discrete-gpu-will-focus-on-integrated-grap/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/intel-kills-larrabee-discrete-gpu-will-focus-on-integrated-grap/
My god man what is wrong with you? Buying off competition is horrible for innovation, among other things.]]>May 25th 2010 4:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/intel-kills-larrabee-discrete-gpu-will-focus-on-integrated-grap/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/intel-kills-larrabee-discrete-gpu-will-focus-on-integrated-grap/
Nvidia is worth around 10 billion in stocks right now...that is hard to swallow, even for Intel...]]>May 25th 2010 4:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/intel-kills-larrabee-discrete-gpu-will-focus-on-integrated-grap/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/intel-kills-larrabee-discrete-gpu-will-focus-on-integrated-grap/
Friend, Intel has enough cash on hand to gobble up nVidia and not even burp. Not that they'd use cash, mind you. They'd probably borrow money for cheap, since they can, and then pay that off out of cashflow without even noticing it was gone.

Of course regulators probably would not allow anything of the sort given Intel's already dominant volume position in this field.]]>May 25th 2010 4:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/intel-kills-larrabee-discrete-gpu-will-focus-on-integrated-grap/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/intel-kills-larrabee-discrete-gpu-will-focus-on-integrated-grap/I doubt that that would get approved.]]>May 25th 2010 5:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/intel-kills-larrabee-discrete-gpu-will-focus-on-integrated-grap/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/intel-kills-larrabee-discrete-gpu-will-focus-on-integrated-grap/May 25th 2010 4:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/intel-kills-larrabee-discrete-gpu-will-focus-on-integrated-grap/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/intel-kills-larrabee-discrete-gpu-will-focus-on-integrated-grap/Indeed. Time to call in the FTC before they shove ATi and Nvidia out of the graphics arena with substandard performance.]]>May 25th 2010 4:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/intel-kills-larrabee-discrete-gpu-will-focus-on-integrated-grap/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/intel-kills-larrabee-discrete-gpu-will-focus-on-integrated-grap/
Really? I thought the issue was with chipsets, not discrete graphics. People can't put a PCIe NVIDIA card in a Core i7 based desktop? That makes little sense.]]>May 25th 2010 4:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/intel-kills-larrabee-discrete-gpu-will-focus-on-integrated-grap/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/intel-kills-larrabee-discrete-gpu-will-focus-on-integrated-grap/May 25th 2010 4:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/intel-kills-larrabee-discrete-gpu-will-focus-on-integrated-grap/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/intel-kills-larrabee-discrete-gpu-will-focus-on-integrated-grap/
I fail to understand this statement:

"...so right now the only high-power GPU options for Intel's faster chips come from ATI."

Intel's faster chips are the i7 9XX series that use the X58 chipset...and both Nvidia and ATI provide discrete GPUs for ANY Intel CPU...

The only thing Nvidia cannot make for the Core i3/i5/i7 is a native chipset, like past nForce series, which were great, but had their problems...

Almost all high-end Intel systems use EITHER NVIDIA graphics cards or ATI ones...and a lot of servers now have Tesla within...

Last I checked, AMD was NOT making chipsets with ATI GPUs integrated for Intel...

So how is ATI the only company providing high-powered GPU options for Intel's "faster chips" again?]]>May 25th 2010 4:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/intel-kills-larrabee-discrete-gpu-will-focus-on-integrated-grap/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/intel-kills-larrabee-discrete-gpu-will-focus-on-integrated-grap/
The bigger problem was that rasterized graphics have gotten really good at approximating real-life lighting without the huge performance hit of ray-tracing, and have been perfected over the past two decades, whereas moving to massively-parallel processed ray-traced graphics would be like starting all over, requiring new development tools, methods, and knowledge. Intel was pushing something that people wish they had 15 years ago, but is now inferior to the alternatives.

I don't think we've seen the end of real-time ray-tracing, however.]]>May 25th 2010 4:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/intel-kills-larrabee-discrete-gpu-will-focus-on-integrated-grap/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/intel-kills-larrabee-discrete-gpu-will-focus-on-integrated-grap/Well, let's see where this is heading.]]>May 25th 2010 4:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/intel-kills-larrabee-discrete-gpu-will-focus-on-integrated-grap/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/intel-kills-larrabee-discrete-gpu-will-focus-on-integrated-grap/Most consumers really don't need discreet GPU's or powerhouse integrated GPU's. If they did Intel would have given up making integrated stuff long ago (which I would have welcomed).]]>May 25th 2010 5:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/intel-kills-larrabee-discrete-gpu-will-focus-on-integrated-grap/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/intel-kills-larrabee-discrete-gpu-will-focus-on-integrated-grap/
Intel's integrated chips are bad for gaming, but they're fine for pretty much everything else. I had a 4500MHD in my last laptop and I was even able to play a lot of games on it okay... just stuff like Civilization, but it was more than enough to kill time. Of course, any graphics card is good enough to do things like web browsing and emailing, which is what most people use their laptops for. (Even design stuff is fine; I always laugh when designers say they need discrete graphics cards - for what?! You pushing a lot of polygons around in Photoshop and Illustrator there?)

Now I have a GeForce 310M in my current laptop and it's nice to be able to play some more intense games, but I doubt most people would even notice the difference for anything else.
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Intel IGP's are the joke of the computer enthusiast world right now, even their newer integrated "HD" (the name being ironic because you need an accelerator chip to run HD content on the damn things) chips. But since Intel blocked Nvidia from making integrated chips for them, users of Core i-series mobile processors are stuck with the shitty Intel HD graphics come close to Nvidia's 9400m, but Nvidia's new integrated chip (found in the 13 inch MBP) doubles the performacne from that and lowers the power draw. ]]>May 25th 2010 4:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/intel-kills-larrabee-discrete-gpu-will-focus-on-integrated-grap/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/intel-kills-larrabee-discrete-gpu-will-focus-on-integrated-grap/
Or you can always get a discrete nVidia chip for any i-series processor...]]>May 25th 2010 8:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/intel-kills-larrabee-discrete-gpu-will-focus-on-integrated-grap/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/intel-kills-larrabee-discrete-gpu-will-focus-on-integrated-grap/Not the mobile ones. Look at the 13' MBP. ]]>May 25th 2010 8:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/intel-kills-larrabee-discrete-gpu-will-focus-on-integrated-grap/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/intel-kills-larrabee-discrete-gpu-will-focus-on-integrated-grap/
Do you mean the ULV processors? Because you certainly can get discrete graphics for the mobile i-series processors... I know, I have one. (i5-430 w/ GeForce 310M).

Not all of the mobile i-series is ULV, so I'm thinking that's gotta be what you mean.
]]>May 25th 2010 9:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/intel-kills-larrabee-discrete-gpu-will-focus-on-integrated-grap/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/intel-kills-larrabee-discrete-gpu-will-focus-on-integrated-grap/I was talking about integrated graphics, when did we start talking about discreet laptop cards? You can get a laptop with the new processors and a discreet Nvidia card, but that has a higher cost and higher power requirements. Nvidia's integrated chip is far better than Intel's. Intel;s matches the 9400m (or close to matches it) but the new Nvidia integrated chip doubles the performance over that. ]]>May 25th 2010 9:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/intel-kills-larrabee-discrete-gpu-will-focus-on-integrated-grap/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/intel-kills-larrabee-discrete-gpu-will-focus-on-integrated-grap/May 25th 2010 5:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/intel-kills-larrabee-discrete-gpu-will-focus-on-integrated-grap/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/intel-kills-larrabee-discrete-gpu-will-focus-on-integrated-grap/
Please, someone bring out something new and radical - and no, a bland boring ipad doesn't count :)]]>May 25th 2010 6:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/intel-kills-larrabee-discrete-gpu-will-focus-on-integrated-grap/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/intel-kills-larrabee-discrete-gpu-will-focus-on-integrated-grap/May 25th 2010 7:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/intel-kills-larrabee-discrete-gpu-will-focus-on-integrated-grap/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/intel-kills-larrabee-discrete-gpu-will-focus-on-integrated-grap/May 25th 2010 8:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/intel-kills-larrabee-discrete-gpu-will-focus-on-integrated-grap/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/intel-kills-larrabee-discrete-gpu-will-focus-on-integrated-grap/
Intel should put every single penny into this.]]>May 26th 2010 12:08AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/intel-kills-larrabee-discrete-gpu-will-focus-on-integrated-grap/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/intel-kills-larrabee-discrete-gpu-will-focus-on-integrated-grap/May 26th 2010 2:51AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/intel-kills-larrabee-discrete-gpu-will-focus-on-integrated-grap/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/intel-kills-larrabee-discrete-gpu-will-focus-on-integrated-grap/May 26th 2010 3:35AM