http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/microsofts-robbie-bach-j-allard-leaving-as-part-of-broader-sha/ Engadget Comments for Microsoft's Robbie Bach and J Allard leaving as part of broader shakeup; Xbox and Windows Phone teams now reporting directly to Ballmer http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/microsofts-robbie-bach-j-allard-leaving-as-part-of-broader-sha/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/microsofts-robbie-bach-j-allard-leaving-as-part-of-broader-sha/May 25th 2010 11:56AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/microsofts-robbie-bach-j-allard-leaving-as-part-of-broader-sha/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/microsofts-robbie-bach-j-allard-leaving-as-part-of-broader-sha/
Power to the red polo!]]>May 25th 2010 12:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/microsofts-robbie-bach-j-allard-leaving-as-part-of-broader-sha/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/microsofts-robbie-bach-j-allard-leaving-as-part-of-broader-sha/May 25th 2010 11:56AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/microsofts-robbie-bach-j-allard-leaving-as-part-of-broader-sha/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/microsofts-robbie-bach-j-allard-leaving-as-part-of-broader-sha/
Yea whatever!!]]>May 25th 2010 12:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/microsofts-robbie-bach-j-allard-leaving-as-part-of-broader-sha/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/microsofts-robbie-bach-j-allard-leaving-as-part-of-broader-sha/May 25th 2010 5:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/microsofts-robbie-bach-j-allard-leaving-as-part-of-broader-sha/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/microsofts-robbie-bach-j-allard-leaving-as-part-of-broader-sha/
Adventure Sports read: Steve chasing me around with a shotgun.]]>May 25th 2010 5:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/microsofts-robbie-bach-j-allard-leaving-as-part-of-broader-sha/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/microsofts-robbie-bach-j-allard-leaving-as-part-of-broader-sha/May 25th 2010 11:56AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/microsofts-robbie-bach-j-allard-leaving-as-part-of-broader-sha/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/microsofts-robbie-bach-j-allard-leaving-as-part-of-broader-sha/May 25th 2010 11:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/microsofts-robbie-bach-j-allard-leaving-as-part-of-broader-sha/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/microsofts-robbie-bach-j-allard-leaving-as-part-of-broader-sha/
I'm quite sure everything he worked on is under a stack of patents and non disclosure contracts.]]>May 25th 2010 12:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/microsofts-robbie-bach-j-allard-leaving-as-part-of-broader-sha/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/microsofts-robbie-bach-j-allard-leaving-as-part-of-broader-sha/
those previous 4 posts were a golden era of non courier posting, and here you went and ruined it.

MS has led the way in pen based computing for many years. If they don't want to go near courier (yet), this is due to practical reasons - other than wanting to disappoint the throngs that fell in love with a fanciful render.

]]>May 25th 2010 12:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/microsofts-robbie-bach-j-allard-leaving-as-part-of-broader-sha/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/microsofts-robbie-bach-j-allard-leaving-as-part-of-broader-sha/
A customized WebOS on the Courier where you can slide cards across screens sounds like a winner!]]>May 25th 2010 12:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/microsofts-robbie-bach-j-allard-leaving-as-part-of-broader-sha/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/microsofts-robbie-bach-j-allard-leaving-as-part-of-broader-sha/that is, if they arent leaving for retirement/personal stuff
i actually believe it, theyre probably rich as shit now, i mean, who wants to work till after theyre 48 in a main role when you can just take an advisor role? easier work and theyve got enough money

is a shame though, but i suppose itll be good to see some new faces the same old ballmer/jobs and co get boring after a while]]>May 25th 2010 12:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/microsofts-robbie-bach-j-allard-leaving-as-part-of-broader-sha/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/microsofts-robbie-bach-j-allard-leaving-as-part-of-broader-sha/May 25th 2010 1:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/microsofts-robbie-bach-j-allard-leaving-as-part-of-broader-sha/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/microsofts-robbie-bach-j-allard-leaving-as-part-of-broader-sha/
Take your pick. ]]>May 25th 2010 4:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/microsofts-robbie-bach-j-allard-leaving-as-part-of-broader-sha/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/microsofts-robbie-bach-j-allard-leaving-as-part-of-broader-sha/May 25th 2010 11:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/microsofts-robbie-bach-j-allard-leaving-as-part-of-broader-sha/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/microsofts-robbie-bach-j-allard-leaving-as-part-of-broader-sha/
nothing. GodPhone 7 will still arrive this Dec]]>May 25th 2010 11:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/microsofts-robbie-bach-j-allard-leaving-as-part-of-broader-sha/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/microsofts-robbie-bach-j-allard-leaving-as-part-of-broader-sha/May 25th 2010 12:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/microsofts-robbie-bach-j-allard-leaving-as-part-of-broader-sha/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/microsofts-robbie-bach-j-allard-leaving-as-part-of-broader-sha/May 25th 2010 12:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/microsofts-robbie-bach-j-allard-leaving-as-part-of-broader-sha/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/microsofts-robbie-bach-j-allard-leaving-as-part-of-broader-sha/
Please, for the love of God, tell me that was sarcasm...]]>May 25th 2010 12:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/microsofts-robbie-bach-j-allard-leaving-as-part-of-broader-sha/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/microsofts-robbie-bach-j-allard-leaving-as-part-of-broader-sha/May 25th 2010 12:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/microsofts-robbie-bach-j-allard-leaving-as-part-of-broader-sha/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/microsofts-robbie-bach-j-allard-leaving-as-part-of-broader-sha//golfclap for missing the sarcasm...

but seriously, Windows Phone 7 will be just like everything else Microsoft announces: hype, hype, hype, delayed release, more hype, another delay, hype, more hype, finally a release, and then let the world of suck begin!]]>May 25th 2010 2:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/microsofts-robbie-bach-j-allard-leaving-as-part-of-broader-sha/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/microsofts-robbie-bach-j-allard-leaving-as-part-of-broader-sha/May 25th 2010 11:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/microsofts-robbie-bach-j-allard-leaving-as-part-of-broader-sha/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/microsofts-robbie-bach-j-allard-leaving-as-part-of-broader-sha/May 25th 2010 12:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/microsofts-robbie-bach-j-allard-leaving-as-part-of-broader-sha/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/microsofts-robbie-bach-j-allard-leaving-as-part-of-broader-sha/May 25th 2010 1:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/microsofts-robbie-bach-j-allard-leaving-as-part-of-broader-sha/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/microsofts-robbie-bach-j-allard-leaving-as-part-of-broader-sha/Wow, that is some optimism that you take from these news. Let's see how it will work out for them.]]>May 25th 2010 1:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/microsofts-robbie-bach-j-allard-leaving-as-part-of-broader-sha/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/microsofts-robbie-bach-j-allard-leaving-as-part-of-broader-sha/May 25th 2010 1:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/microsofts-robbie-bach-j-allard-leaving-as-part-of-broader-sha/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/microsofts-robbie-bach-j-allard-leaving-as-part-of-broader-sha/
Wow! and you have the audacity to call other people fan boy? At least be a fan boy of an innovative company!

Pathetic!]]>May 25th 2010 2:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/microsofts-robbie-bach-j-allard-leaving-as-part-of-broader-sha/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/microsofts-robbie-bach-j-allard-leaving-as-part-of-broader-sha/May 25th 2010 2:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/microsofts-robbie-bach-j-allard-leaving-as-part-of-broader-sha/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/microsofts-robbie-bach-j-allard-leaving-as-part-of-broader-sha/May 25th 2010 2:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/microsofts-robbie-bach-j-allard-leaving-as-part-of-broader-sha/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/microsofts-robbie-bach-j-allard-leaving-as-part-of-broader-sha/
You're actively adversarial towards Apple, going as far as to bring them into conversations that have nothing to do with them just to take another shot at them.

You're not even close to being as unbiased as you think you are. And also, I'm guessing your bad experiences with Apple products had more to do with you being an idiot than the products themselves.]]>May 25th 2010 6:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/microsofts-robbie-bach-j-allard-leaving-as-part-of-broader-sha/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/microsofts-robbie-bach-j-allard-leaving-as-part-of-broader-sha/May 25th 2010 11:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/microsofts-robbie-bach-j-allard-leaving-as-part-of-broader-sha/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/microsofts-robbie-bach-j-allard-leaving-as-part-of-broader-sha/
-An Apple User]]>May 25th 2010 12:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/microsofts-robbie-bach-j-allard-leaving-as-part-of-broader-sha/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/microsofts-robbie-bach-j-allard-leaving-as-part-of-broader-sha/May 25th 2010 12:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/microsofts-robbie-bach-j-allard-leaving-as-part-of-broader-sha/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/microsofts-robbie-bach-j-allard-leaving-as-part-of-broader-sha/
They do this shit. The last thing Microsoft needs is 'ole Crazy Ballmer having more oversight over something he knows nothing about.]]>May 25th 2010 12:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/microsofts-robbie-bach-j-allard-leaving-as-part-of-broader-sha/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/microsofts-robbie-bach-j-allard-leaving-as-part-of-broader-sha/May 25th 2010 12:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/microsofts-robbie-bach-j-allard-leaving-as-part-of-broader-sha/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/microsofts-robbie-bach-j-allard-leaving-as-part-of-broader-sha/
The Courier would not be competing with the iPad - they appeal to mostly different demographics. The former is productivity/creativity-oriented and the latter all about consumption. Quite different IMO.

It is a horrible decision on Microsoft's part to ax the Courier and I hope that concept makes it to production somewhere else. I'll be the first in line to buy one.]]>May 25th 2010 12:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/microsofts-robbie-bach-j-allard-leaving-as-part-of-broader-sha/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/microsofts-robbie-bach-j-allard-leaving-as-part-of-broader-sha/
My guess is that it was mainly a money issue. The screen is a major player in the cost of a device and to have two 5x7 touch screens could have easily placed it at the same price point or above for the iPad. Thusly, a PDA that would be more expensive than a laptop.

That being said, I still would have shelled out the money for it though.]]>May 25th 2010 1:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/microsofts-robbie-bach-j-allard-leaving-as-part-of-broader-sha/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/microsofts-robbie-bach-j-allard-leaving-as-part-of-broader-sha/May 25th 2010 12:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/microsofts-robbie-bach-j-allard-leaving-as-part-of-broader-sha/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/microsofts-robbie-bach-j-allard-leaving-as-part-of-broader-sha/
LOL!!! love this comment.

But probably true. I mean really..you Kill Courier but launch KIN?

And they said J Allard was the evangelist for courier. I would've kept him and fired anyone who was pushing that useless phone.

Courier and Win Phone 7 would've been all they needed.]]>May 25th 2010 12:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/microsofts-robbie-bach-j-allard-leaving-as-part-of-broader-sha/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/microsofts-robbie-bach-j-allard-leaving-as-part-of-broader-sha/
I seriously wouldn't doubt that. Aside from Xbox, E&D have not created anything successful. Sure, Zune HD looks cool but no one is buying it.

Maybe Courier was hugely delayed or there were some other issues with it. This might be a good thing... get someone in there who will create coherent devices that work together... ]]>May 25th 2010 12:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/microsofts-robbie-bach-j-allard-leaving-as-part-of-broader-sha/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/microsofts-robbie-bach-j-allard-leaving-as-part-of-broader-sha/
LOL]]>May 25th 2010 12:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/microsofts-robbie-bach-j-allard-leaving-as-part-of-broader-sha/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/microsofts-robbie-bach-j-allard-leaving-as-part-of-broader-sha/May 25th 2010 12:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/microsofts-robbie-bach-j-allard-leaving-as-part-of-broader-sha/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/microsofts-robbie-bach-j-allard-leaving-as-part-of-broader-sha/
For the Empire!]]>May 25th 2010 12:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/microsofts-robbie-bach-j-allard-leaving-as-part-of-broader-sha/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/microsofts-robbie-bach-j-allard-leaving-as-part-of-broader-sha/
That said I disagree about the Kin - a so-so featurephone at smartphone prices. My guess is that when the analysts finally give us some numbers they will be very disappointing (if the Kin was flying off shelves Microsoft would have already been crowubg about it, instead we get Zune-like silence).]]>May 25th 2010 1:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/microsofts-robbie-bach-j-allard-leaving-as-part-of-broader-sha/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/microsofts-robbie-bach-j-allard-leaving-as-part-of-broader-sha/May 25th 2010 3:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/microsofts-robbie-bach-j-allard-leaving-as-part-of-broader-sha/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/microsofts-robbie-bach-j-allard-leaving-as-part-of-broader-sha/May 25th 2010 4:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/microsofts-robbie-bach-j-allard-leaving-as-part-of-broader-sha/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/microsofts-robbie-bach-j-allard-leaving-as-part-of-broader-sha/
Ya... I can't imagine that the KIN is selling too well. Buying Danger was dumb too. F*ck MS get in the game! Ditch these loser products and concentrate on WP7 and a stripped version of Windows 7 to put on OEM tablets. GO GO GO!]]>May 25th 2010 5:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/microsofts-robbie-bach-j-allard-leaving-as-part-of-broader-sha/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/microsofts-robbie-bach-j-allard-leaving-as-part-of-broader-sha/They are retiring. ]]>May 25th 2010 12:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/microsofts-robbie-bach-j-allard-leaving-as-part-of-broader-sha/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/microsofts-robbie-bach-j-allard-leaving-as-part-of-broader-sha/May 25th 2010 12:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/microsofts-robbie-bach-j-allard-leaving-as-part-of-broader-sha/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/25/microsofts-robbie-bach-j-allard-leaving-as-part-of-broader-sha/May 25th 2010 12:39PM