http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/27/atandt-40-percent-of-iphones-are-enterprise-android-built-with/ Engadget Comments for http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/27/atandt-40-percent-of-iphones-are-enterprise-android-built-with/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/27/atandt-40-percent-of-iphones-are-enterprise-android-built-with/I thought the definition of "junk" was something that is physically crap. Have I been taught wrong all these years?]]>May 27th 2010 6:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/27/atandt-40-percent-of-iphones-are-enterprise-android-built-with/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/27/atandt-40-percent-of-iphones-are-enterprise-android-built-with/May 27th 2010 6:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/27/atandt-40-percent-of-iphones-are-enterprise-android-built-with/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/27/atandt-40-percent-of-iphones-are-enterprise-android-built-with/May 27th 2010 6:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/27/atandt-40-percent-of-iphones-are-enterprise-android-built-with/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/27/atandt-40-percent-of-iphones-are-enterprise-android-built-with/May 27th 2010 5:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/27/atandt-40-percent-of-iphones-are-enterprise-android-built-with/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/27/atandt-40-percent-of-iphones-are-enterprise-android-built-with/
It's a surprising figure. If he's just referring to the US that's about 450,000 a quarter.

Still, you never know...]]>May 27th 2010 5:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/27/atandt-40-percent-of-iphones-are-enterprise-android-built-with/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/27/atandt-40-percent-of-iphones-are-enterprise-android-built-with/It's like saying Ferraris are enterprise focused because 40% of them are sold to rich business men with small genitalia... kind of... ish...]]>May 27th 2010 5:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/27/atandt-40-percent-of-iphones-are-enterprise-android-built-with/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/27/atandt-40-percent-of-iphones-are-enterprise-android-built-with/May 27th 2010 6:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/27/atandt-40-percent-of-iphones-are-enterprise-android-built-with/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/27/atandt-40-percent-of-iphones-are-enterprise-android-built-with/I was thinking the same thing as soon as I read that line. I hate to nitpick about a couple words, but it could be a pretty different number - it's impressive enough to go without the misleading headline and say: "40 percent of current iPhone sales are enterprise".
]]>May 27th 2010 6:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/27/atandt-40-percent-of-iphones-are-enterprise-android-built-with/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/27/atandt-40-percent-of-iphones-are-enterprise-android-built-with/
Suck it android, real smart phone OSes are call iPhone and windows phone 7]]>May 27th 2010 6:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/27/atandt-40-percent-of-iphones-are-enterprise-android-built-with/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/27/atandt-40-percent-of-iphones-are-enterprise-android-built-with/May 27th 2010 6:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/27/atandt-40-percent-of-iphones-are-enterprise-android-built-with/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/27/atandt-40-percent-of-iphones-are-enterprise-android-built-with/
As far as I can tell, all this means is that 40% of iphones are on business accounts. Business accounts =/= 'Enterprise'.

Of course they are going to see a steep rise since 2008... they weren't allowed on business accounts before that. Nice twist

I know plenty of families or even groups of friends that have business accounts because they have a home based business or they are a small business owner, and want to get around AT@T's 5 line limit on family plans.

I'm not saying they aren't penetrating (hehe) the enterprise market, but I can't see the numbers being anywhere close to what they stated.]]>May 27th 2010 6:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/27/atandt-40-percent-of-iphones-are-enterprise-android-built-with/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/27/atandt-40-percent-of-iphones-are-enterprise-android-built-with/
Oh I know, there's not a cat's chance in hell that 40% of all iPhone sales are to enterprise. Still, these are reasonable numbers even if you take into account iPhone sales are at the low point in their sales cycle because of the upcoming release of a new model.]]>May 27th 2010 6:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/27/atandt-40-percent-of-iphones-are-enterprise-android-built-with/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/27/atandt-40-percent-of-iphones-are-enterprise-android-built-with/May 27th 2010 6:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/27/atandt-40-percent-of-iphones-are-enterprise-android-built-with/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/27/atandt-40-percent-of-iphones-are-enterprise-android-built-with/It's complete BS meant to portray the iPhone as a business phone.

I am an AT&T Enterprise user. What this means is that I get a discount on AT&T plans and phones through my job. (My job also offers discounts on Verizon, T-Mobile and Sprint plans and phones). I bet you that the iPhone I purchased last year was counted as an "enterprise purchase" even though I have never, ever used my phone for work, nor would my job expect me to. All of our company cell phones are Blackberry phones.

Lies, damned lies and PR statistics!]]>May 27th 2010 6:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/27/atandt-40-percent-of-iphones-are-enterprise-android-built-with/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/27/atandt-40-percent-of-iphones-are-enterprise-android-built-with/
I work for a Fortune 20 company. 250k employees. I'm sure TONS of people have iPhones. Not one of them, however, is allowed on our network or can access their exchange account.

So, there might be 20k iPhones bought through our company but they are treated as a dumb phone for all intents and purposes. If you want network/exchange access you will be using a BB or nothing at all.]]>May 27th 2010 7:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/27/atandt-40-percent-of-iphones-are-enterprise-android-built-with/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/27/atandt-40-percent-of-iphones-are-enterprise-android-built-with/
Actually, you are wrong. Here is the quote: "So firstly, four out of 10 sales of the iPhone are made to enterprise users."

So, yeah, Engadget is right by saying that 40% of iPhone sales are enterprise.]]>May 27th 2010 7:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/27/atandt-40-percent-of-iphones-are-enterprise-android-built-with/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/27/atandt-40-percent-of-iphones-are-enterprise-android-built-with/Doesn't surprise me at all, the ONLY people I know with iPhones got them through thier company (and were actually required.) Sure it was an upgrade from thier Blackberrry's (except for missing that keyboard), but half of them really wish they could get an android instead.]]>May 27th 2010 7:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/27/atandt-40-percent-of-iphones-are-enterprise-android-built-with/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/27/atandt-40-percent-of-iphones-are-enterprise-android-built-with/May 27th 2010 7:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/27/atandt-40-percent-of-iphones-are-enterprise-android-built-with/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/27/atandt-40-percent-of-iphones-are-enterprise-android-built-with/May 27th 2010 7:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/27/atandt-40-percent-of-iphones-are-enterprise-android-built-with/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/27/atandt-40-percent-of-iphones-are-enterprise-android-built-with/
It's misrepresenting. They don't exactly say what they consider to be enterprise. My last work, there were a lot of iPhones whose bills were being paid for by corporate accounts. These devices were personal purchases. They weren't enterprise specific purchases.

The last few companies I worked (yeah I job hop) all officially support and provide blackberries. These are corp purchases. They are devices procured by the enterprise, maintained and officially supported for their employees.

Not one company I know (I'm sre there are some) makes iphones a corporate purchase. More often than not, the iphones are personal purchases that they use with their corporate plans. And in many cases, IT will unofficially provide *some* support to unofficial devices. Heck I took in one of my Nokia N devices and the IT guys took care of me on it. Just expect some restrictions and if something goes wrong, you're still on your own.

The way things have looked the last few years, any proponent of iphone will cast their definition to be as wide as possible. It's been done before (we are now bigger than Nokia!). The fact is, if you wanted to, the iPhone for your 13 yr old son/daughter could be considered "enterprise".]]>May 27th 2010 7:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/27/atandt-40-percent-of-iphones-are-enterprise-android-built-with/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/27/atandt-40-percent-of-iphones-are-enterprise-android-built-with/
Yeah, it's like when friends of mine have bought personal laptops through the corporate Dell account. Those laptops aren't getting used for work. They were just cheaper that way.]]>May 27th 2010 8:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/27/atandt-40-percent-of-iphones-are-enterprise-android-built-with/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/27/atandt-40-percent-of-iphones-are-enterprise-android-built-with/May 27th 2010 8:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/27/atandt-40-percent-of-iphones-are-enterprise-android-built-with/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/27/atandt-40-percent-of-iphones-are-enterprise-android-built-with/
Unless it was wearing an asbestos suit I'm pretty sure it wouldn't.]]>May 28th 2010 2:32AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/27/atandt-40-percent-of-iphones-are-enterprise-android-built-with/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/27/atandt-40-percent-of-iphones-are-enterprise-android-built-with/May 27th 2010 5:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/27/atandt-40-percent-of-iphones-are-enterprise-android-built-with/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/27/atandt-40-percent-of-iphones-are-enterprise-android-built-with/
The only reason iphone to enterprise works is because of Exchange support, thats it. Without that they would not be successful at all in this area. WP7 will be better in the enterpise category with full Office. Unless MS drops the ball enterprise customers will flock to WP7 in droves. ]]>May 27th 2010 7:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/27/atandt-40-percent-of-iphones-are-enterprise-android-built-with/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/27/atandt-40-percent-of-iphones-are-enterprise-android-built-with/
My thoughts precisely.]]>May 27th 2010 8:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/27/atandt-40-percent-of-iphones-are-enterprise-android-built-with/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/27/atandt-40-percent-of-iphones-are-enterprise-android-built-with/
Yeah, nice try.

http://www.iphonehellas.gr/17507/iphone-os-vulnerability-your-pin-protected-data-are-not-protected/]]>May 27th 2010 5:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/27/atandt-40-percent-of-iphones-are-enterprise-android-built-with/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/27/atandt-40-percent-of-iphones-are-enterprise-android-built-with/
yeah Apple and Security dont go very well together]]>May 27th 2010 5:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/27/atandt-40-percent-of-iphones-are-enterprise-android-built-with/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/27/atandt-40-percent-of-iphones-are-enterprise-android-built-with/you beat me to it XD]]>May 27th 2010 5:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/27/atandt-40-percent-of-iphones-are-enterprise-android-built-with/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/27/atandt-40-percent-of-iphones-are-enterprise-android-built-with/Article is referencing the Exchange-based provisioning, security, remote wipe, etc. We're seeing pretty similar numbers ourselves in terms of enterprise adoption. More and more, the enterprise is following what the consumer is doing rather than the other way around.

Android will be next, no doubt.]]>May 27th 2010 6:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/27/atandt-40-percent-of-iphones-are-enterprise-android-built-with/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/27/atandt-40-percent-of-iphones-are-enterprise-android-built-with/May 27th 2010 6:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/27/atandt-40-percent-of-iphones-are-enterprise-android-built-with/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/27/atandt-40-percent-of-iphones-are-enterprise-android-built-with/May 27th 2010 5:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/27/atandt-40-percent-of-iphones-are-enterprise-android-built-with/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/27/atandt-40-percent-of-iphones-are-enterprise-android-built-with/
Yeah that means its not for you]]>May 27th 2010 5:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/27/atandt-40-percent-of-iphones-are-enterprise-android-built-with/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/27/atandt-40-percent-of-iphones-are-enterprise-android-built-with/
engadget should read their own articles sometimes...
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I fully support Android and Linux for Business and Enterprise. So efficient ]]>May 27th 2010 6:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/27/atandt-40-percent-of-iphones-are-enterprise-android-built-with/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/27/atandt-40-percent-of-iphones-are-enterprise-android-built-with/Android's lacking WPA2 enterprise support, remote wipe, Android's built-in browser does't support client certificates and client authentication in SSL, should I go on?

My IT guy won't let Android connect to our servers until at least Froyo is out. I wouldn't recommend Android to any of my enterprise clients - yet.]]>May 27th 2010 7:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/27/atandt-40-percent-of-iphones-are-enterprise-android-built-with/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/27/atandt-40-percent-of-iphones-are-enterprise-android-built-with/
It's nice to be able to VPN in remotly as well as connecting to the PEAP TLS wireless network now.]]>May 27th 2010 7:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/27/atandt-40-percent-of-iphones-are-enterprise-android-built-with/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/27/atandt-40-percent-of-iphones-are-enterprise-android-built-with/Froyo is the death of enterprise iPhone. Suck It Steve. ]]>May 27th 2010 10:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/27/atandt-40-percent-of-iphones-are-enterprise-android-built-with/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/27/atandt-40-percent-of-iphones-are-enterprise-android-built-with/May 27th 2010 5:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/27/atandt-40-percent-of-iphones-are-enterprise-android-built-with/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/27/atandt-40-percent-of-iphones-are-enterprise-android-built-with/May 27th 2010 5:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/27/atandt-40-percent-of-iphones-are-enterprise-android-built-with/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/27/atandt-40-percent-of-iphones-are-enterprise-android-built-with/

And this is the statement I believe is most correct. Granted I don't work in a ''business'' environment, but I've yet to see anyone in any meaningful position use iPhones as their company phone.


Maybe they're thinking about their ''premier'' customers? Even I can gain access to that system. ]]>May 27th 2010 6:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/27/atandt-40-percent-of-iphones-are-enterprise-android-built-with/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/27/atandt-40-percent-of-iphones-are-enterprise-android-built-with/
That was a point i made to an above comment as well. If you spin it a little bit and cast the definition wide enough, heck, anyone can be considered an enterprise purchase. I'm sure most of those "enterprise" purchases are for personal use, friends, family etc etc.

Purchasing on a corporate/enterprise plan doesn't make it an enterprise purchase.; nor does purchasing it personally and using it for work make it an enterprise purchase.]]>May 27th 2010 8:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/27/atandt-40-percent-of-iphones-are-enterprise-android-built-with/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/27/atandt-40-percent-of-iphones-are-enterprise-android-built-with/
face HPalm]]>May 27th 2010 5:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/27/atandt-40-percent-of-iphones-are-enterprise-android-built-with/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/27/atandt-40-percent-of-iphones-are-enterprise-android-built-with/May 27th 2010 5:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/27/atandt-40-percent-of-iphones-are-enterprise-android-built-with/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/27/atandt-40-percent-of-iphones-are-enterprise-android-built-with/Yes, he works for at&t]]>May 27th 2010 5:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/27/atandt-40-percent-of-iphones-are-enterprise-android-built-with/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/27/atandt-40-percent-of-iphones-are-enterprise-android-built-with/Now not only do you have RIM with their business users but you have Android eating up tons of users and you stuck with a company that for all we know won't let you officially support a strong Android device.

Make no mistake about it, Apple hates Android and is afraid of it. They will try and do whatever it takes to not be better than Android but to kill it all together.]]>May 27th 2010 5:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/27/atandt-40-percent-of-iphones-are-enterprise-android-built-with/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/27/atandt-40-percent-of-iphones-are-enterprise-android-built-with/
I have been using a Droid ever since it came out and sync to Exchange via a third party app (Touchdown) and have had none of the calendar issues iPhone users have. I also heard that 2.2 is supposed to have better Activesync support out of the box including support for some security policies.

I am not saying that all Enterprise users have problems with syncing their iPhones with Exchange, but just wanted to share the experience my company has had.]]>May 27th 2010 5:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/27/atandt-40-percent-of-iphones-are-enterprise-android-built-with/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/27/atandt-40-percent-of-iphones-are-enterprise-android-built-with/Exchange calendaring sucks, flat out. My phone is more reliable than my computer in terms of having meetings up-to-date, but i see double entires and missing items all the time, on all platforms.
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