http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/html5-seriously-its-not-just-for-video/ Engadget Comments for http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/html5-seriously-its-not-just-for-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/html5-seriously-its-not-just-for-video/May 28th 2010 2:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/html5-seriously-its-not-just-for-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/html5-seriously-its-not-just-for-video/May 28th 2010 2:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/html5-seriously-its-not-just-for-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/html5-seriously-its-not-just-for-video/May 28th 2010 2:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/html5-seriously-its-not-just-for-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/html5-seriously-its-not-just-for-video/May 28th 2010 3:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/html5-seriously-its-not-just-for-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/html5-seriously-its-not-just-for-video/BTW This also works flawlessly on Opera!
But I guess you just forgot to mention ;-)]]>May 28th 2010 3:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/html5-seriously-its-not-just-for-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/html5-seriously-its-not-just-for-video/
He's referring to the Mega Man intro FOOL!]]>May 28th 2010 3:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/html5-seriously-its-not-just-for-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/html5-seriously-its-not-just-for-video/
Confirmed: Engadget conspires against Opera.

j/k guys...]]>May 28th 2010 5:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/html5-seriously-its-not-just-for-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/html5-seriously-its-not-just-for-video/IronicSans is a blog I like and a while ago he made a dynamic volume control thing using HTML5. Not as flashy as some other examples but it's still cool. Essentially, instead of going from quiet to loud, moving the volume bar makes the audio go from whisper to shout. Check it out, here's a link:

http://www.ironicsans.com/2010/03/idea_a_new_kind_of_volume_cont.html]]>May 28th 2010 7:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/html5-seriously-its-not-just-for-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/html5-seriously-its-not-just-for-video/for those of you who have upgraded to Google chrome there are alot more experiments like those.
they are created by programming languages such as HTML5, canvas and SVG

link: http://www.chromeexperiments.com/
for those who haven't upgraded yet you can add this to the list of why you should.]]>May 28th 2010 7:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/html5-seriously-its-not-just-for-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/html5-seriously-its-not-just-for-video/That pun with "flashy" was not at all intentional and I didn't even realize until after I posted haha. All I meant was that it isn't as creative or cool of an example as the others. :-)]]>May 28th 2010 7:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/html5-seriously-its-not-just-for-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/html5-seriously-its-not-just-for-video/May 28th 2010 7:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/html5-seriously-its-not-just-for-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/html5-seriously-its-not-just-for-video/
That zelda clone is a game created by the owner of zawaung.co.uk/

He has other games that use that overlay compatible with touch devices only, mainly the iphone (or ipod touch)

Besides Zelda clone, he has tetris, a vertical shooter, pacman, platformer game and I think another but I cant remember.]]>May 28th 2010 8:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/html5-seriously-its-not-just-for-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/html5-seriously-its-not-just-for-video/
"they are created by programming languages such as HTML5, canvas and SVG"

Pssst. Your complete lack of programming knowledge is showing.]]>May 28th 2010 8:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/html5-seriously-its-not-just-for-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/html5-seriously-its-not-just-for-video/http://www.kesiev.com/akihabara/) and sources are available on Github (http://github.com/kesiev/akihabara).
Oh... and "fast" was right :)]]>May 29th 2010 6:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/html5-seriously-its-not-just-for-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/html5-seriously-its-not-just-for-video/May 28th 2010 2:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/html5-seriously-its-not-just-for-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/html5-seriously-its-not-just-for-video/it wasn't HTML 5.]]>May 28th 2010 2:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/html5-seriously-its-not-just-for-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/html5-seriously-its-not-just-for-video/May 28th 2010 2:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/html5-seriously-its-not-just-for-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/html5-seriously-its-not-just-for-video/May 28th 2010 2:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/html5-seriously-its-not-just-for-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/html5-seriously-its-not-just-for-video/May 28th 2010 3:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/html5-seriously-its-not-just-for-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/html5-seriously-its-not-just-for-video/http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Google+Pac+Man+HTML5]]>May 28th 2010 3:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/html5-seriously-its-not-just-for-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/html5-seriously-its-not-just-for-video/
Oh god, I really want to comment here and clear this whole html5 thing up, but why bother? ]]>May 28th 2010 4:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/html5-seriously-its-not-just-for-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/html5-seriously-its-not-just-for-video/
Show me something Flash CANNOT do...

That is, other than actually running on iMobile Devices...]]>May 28th 2010 5:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/html5-seriously-its-not-just-for-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/html5-seriously-its-not-just-for-video/1) run well on non-Windows platforms.
2) run on platforms that Adobe doesn't feel are worth supporting.
3) Run in browsers Adobe doesn't feel are worth supporting.]]>May 28th 2010 11:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/html5-seriously-its-not-just-for-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/html5-seriously-its-not-just-for-video/
Now I only wish my mobile phone could HTML 5....]]>May 28th 2010 2:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/html5-seriously-its-not-just-for-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/html5-seriously-its-not-just-for-video/what phone is it? nokia 3310... :P]]>May 28th 2010 2:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/html5-seriously-its-not-just-for-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/html5-seriously-its-not-just-for-video/The 3d shooter works on my palm pre.]]>May 28th 2010 2:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/html5-seriously-its-not-just-for-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/html5-seriously-its-not-just-for-video/May 28th 2010 2:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/html5-seriously-its-not-just-for-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/html5-seriously-its-not-just-for-video/
What about the iPhone/iPad, aren't they suppose to be supporting HTML 5 now? Has anyone tried?

I'm trying from my iPod Touch but no luck yet...]]>May 28th 2010 2:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/html5-seriously-its-not-just-for-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/html5-seriously-its-not-just-for-video/
Mega Man intro worked on iPod Touch Safari browser, although it was a little glitchy graphically.]]>May 28th 2010 2:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/html5-seriously-its-not-just-for-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/html5-seriously-its-not-just-for-video/I tried Legend of sadness on my 3g and it was really Slow. Seeing what Flash does on other mobile platforms I am pretty sure even html5 wont be the perfect candidate for mobile Devices for a long time.]]>May 28th 2010 3:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/html5-seriously-its-not-just-for-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/html5-seriously-its-not-just-for-video/Is the future supposed to slowdown Chrome with 3 of those sites in different tabs?]]>May 28th 2010 5:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/html5-seriously-its-not-just-for-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/html5-seriously-its-not-just-for-video/May 28th 2010 10:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/html5-seriously-its-not-just-for-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/html5-seriously-its-not-just-for-video/i tried all of them on my 3GS and was actually a little surprised by a few of them. Most notably, the Legend of Whatever game. It ran very well! The only issue is that you can't see the whole dpad and the whole game screen at once. He should have put the dpad and buttons to the sides of the canvas.

Most of the demos worked, but some of them ran very slow on the 3GS (to be expected I suppose), and many of them didn't function due to requiring a keyboard where there is no way to bring up a virtual keyboard. Some that involved clicking and dragging didn't work correctly because it would scroll the screen instead of interacting with objects.]]>May 28th 2010 11:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/html5-seriously-its-not-just-for-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/html5-seriously-its-not-just-for-video/yeah the shooter rocks, i fragged all the walls.]]>May 31st 2010 3:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/html5-seriously-its-not-just-for-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/html5-seriously-its-not-just-for-video/May 28th 2010 2:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/html5-seriously-its-not-just-for-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/html5-seriously-its-not-just-for-video/It is still eons behind Flash, and when it does catch up, Flash will be used on every single device, besides Apple's of course. ]]>May 28th 2010 2:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/html5-seriously-its-not-just-for-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/html5-seriously-its-not-just-for-video/By the way, that "3D Molecules" demo cripples my desktop Core i7 when I open 5+ molecule windows.]]>May 28th 2010 2:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/html5-seriously-its-not-just-for-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/html5-seriously-its-not-just-for-video/May 28th 2010 2:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/html5-seriously-its-not-just-for-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/html5-seriously-its-not-just-for-video/May 28th 2010 2:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/html5-seriously-its-not-just-for-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/html5-seriously-its-not-just-for-video/
Perhaps u guys need a new browser or new hardware :-)]]>May 28th 2010 2:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/html5-seriously-its-not-just-for-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/html5-seriously-its-not-just-for-video/May 28th 2010 2:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/html5-seriously-its-not-just-for-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/html5-seriously-its-not-just-for-video/May 28th 2010 2:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/html5-seriously-its-not-just-for-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/html5-seriously-its-not-just-for-video/http://i47.tinypic.com/35849dd.jpg

Running a recent Core 2 with 4 GB of RAM and Chrome 6. Laptop hardware doesn't get much newer than this...]]>May 28th 2010 3:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/html5-seriously-its-not-just-for-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/html5-seriously-its-not-just-for-video/Tried some of the games (I have a core 2 duo, running firefox). The multiplayer game was laggy (although it may have to do with the location of the servers). Some of the games didn't take my key presses. The higher res examples are also a bit laggy. I remember some benchmarks that show Flash outperformed HTML5 in animation, although some optimizations may change this. Part of the problem is that javascript has to be used to drive the canvas, and javascript is slow, which means Flash may actually outperform it (despite all the hoopla being made about how inefficient Flash is). It is cool you can do this on canvas without plug-ins though.]]>May 28th 2010 3:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/html5-seriously-its-not-just-for-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/html5-seriously-its-not-just-for-video/
First what is the definition of "plugin"? If Google squeezes flash so deep in the browser, is it still a plugin?

Second javascript is not slow anymore, google did terrific job in past couple years, let's talk two years down the road how slow javascript is.

Third, HTML5 is very very new technology, flash has been out there forever. give it a year or two and then run comparisons.

Flash is terrible technology, the scripting behind it is simply horribly done, I really hope most of the websites are not going to use it for video playback in the near future. Flash is certainly not the future of the internet.]]>May 28th 2010 3:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/html5-seriously-its-not-just-for-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/html5-seriously-its-not-just-for-video/Notice how you said two years. Where will Flash be in two years? It directly illustrates that point that HTML5 isn't ready yet, so why not use Flash in the mean time?

Yes, the javascript performance of the V8 engine is amazing (due to compiling to native code vs actionscript compiled to bytecode + JIT compiler introduced in Flash 9), but for the large majority of the market, the javascript is still interpreted, and that means slow code.

HTML5 is the future of the web, no one says it isn't, but the key word is future. But I want to view the web now, and that means Flash.]]>May 28th 2010 3:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/html5-seriously-its-not-just-for-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/html5-seriously-its-not-just-for-video/Javascript is still slower than Actionsript though.
And while JIT-compilers for JS are optimized all the time, so is Flash.

The problem is that JS in it current state has disadvantages that means that it will by nature be slower.
Both JS and AS are based on ECMAScript, but JS uses an older version of the standard. It lack a lot of functionality that AS provides making it a lot less suitable for anything but small simple scripts.
And it also does not have strict typing, which does help a JIT compiler a lot when it comes to delivering optimal performance. Also a JIT compiler for JS will work on the script code directly, while with Flash you first compile AS into bytecode for the Flash Player. The JIT compiler in the Flash Player will then compile machinecode from that bytecode. That also makes for better performance.

So unless JS get's updated to follow later standards of ECMAScript and is pre-compiled it just will not catch up with Flash.

The main area where a lot of these demos struggle is probably not the actual scripting though, but the rendering of graphics using canvas or SVG. That is certainly an area where browsers will improve, but currently it's obvious how much Flash rocks in that area. The rendering in the Flash Player is many times faster than competing technologies, and while they might catch up there is very little basis for assuming that will happen in the foreseeable future.]]>May 28th 2010 3:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/html5-seriously-its-not-just-for-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/html5-seriously-its-not-just-for-video/
AS3 is a much more robust language than JS in its current state - coding in JS after learning AS3 feels like I have to revert several years into the past. I essentially have to force myself to code like I did when I first started learning AS2.

+ Like others have stated AS is developing as a language at a much faster pace, by the time JS and other related technologies catch up to the capabilities and the performance that is currently possible with flash the flash platform would have (hopefully) moved eons ahead.

Lets all hope that by the end of this decade (or maybe sooner) the need for plugins would have disappeared all together. However, right now flash is still the best solution for a good number of scenarios so I see no reason to give up on it yet. ]]>May 28th 2010 10:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/html5-seriously-its-not-just-for-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/html5-seriously-its-not-just-for-video/yet, to play flash items, i dont need new hardware or software

i wonder which i prefer, a software that lags the shit out of everything even once youve brought your new hardware or software, or a software that only has issues if people code it horrificly that doesnt require me to buy new hardware/software
hmm...
hard decision]]>May 29th 2010 9:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/html5-seriously-its-not-just-for-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/html5-seriously-its-not-just-for-video/
Some programmers who prefer other syntactical styles (Ruby/Obj-C, Python, etc) might not like it, but from the Java/JS/ECMAScript/C++/Curly bracket/dot syntax world, it is definitely a fantastic modern language.

Some nice advantages: A good built-in event architecture, event bubbling, deep object copying, reflection, inheritance, polymorphism, elegant getters and setters (for help in encapsulation), consistent and good cohesion in the API.




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