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Seriously? Wow. That whole post was just a clusterfuck of badly thought out assumptions and misinformation.]]>May 28th 2010 4:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/the-next-apple-tv-revealed-cloud-storage-and-iphone-os-on-tap/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/the-next-apple-tv-revealed-cloud-storage-and-iphone-os-on-tap/May 28th 2010 10:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/the-next-apple-tv-revealed-cloud-storage-and-iphone-os-on-tap/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/the-next-apple-tv-revealed-cloud-storage-and-iphone-os-on-tap/
I already have Netflix instant watch, I'm getting Google TV, and this seems like a dumbed down browser with a bunch of DRM content I have to "buy" that I never own. Pass.]]>May 28th 2010 10:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/the-next-apple-tv-revealed-cloud-storage-and-iphone-os-on-tap/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/the-next-apple-tv-revealed-cloud-storage-and-iphone-os-on-tap/May 28th 2010 10:32AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/the-next-apple-tv-revealed-cloud-storage-and-iphone-os-on-tap/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/the-next-apple-tv-revealed-cloud-storage-and-iphone-os-on-tap/hmmm... content rules on TV... will have to wait and watch the content line up apple is able to bring in... that will decide the fate of this box... ]]>May 28th 2010 10:34AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/the-next-apple-tv-revealed-cloud-storage-and-iphone-os-on-tap/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/the-next-apple-tv-revealed-cloud-storage-and-iphone-os-on-tap/
yes, but this is cheaper than Google TV, is it not? That was my issue with Google TV, that it was too expensive for stuff I can do on my laptop, but for 100 dollars, and it being able to sync my iTunes library to my TV, well, sign me up!]]>May 28th 2010 10:36AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/the-next-apple-tv-revealed-cloud-storage-and-iphone-os-on-tap/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/the-next-apple-tv-revealed-cloud-storage-and-iphone-os-on-tap/
Dude, seriously, you got deleted once, so you come back and make a 2nd account. In case you couldn't tell the first time, we don't want you trolling here, got it?

Kthxbai]]>May 28th 2010 10:37AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/the-next-apple-tv-revealed-cloud-storage-and-iphone-os-on-tap/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/the-next-apple-tv-revealed-cloud-storage-and-iphone-os-on-tap/May 28th 2010 10:37AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/the-next-apple-tv-revealed-cloud-storage-and-iphone-os-on-tap/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/the-next-apple-tv-revealed-cloud-storage-and-iphone-os-on-tap/May 28th 2010 10:39AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/the-next-apple-tv-revealed-cloud-storage-and-iphone-os-on-tap/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/the-next-apple-tv-revealed-cloud-storage-and-iphone-os-on-tap/
Where is universal searching? And any for any real user, going from Mac OS X-lite to iPhone OS = going the wrong way! Giving up Flash support for a dedicated video product? For mobiles, there are arguments both way, but for a TV product? Hello, has anyone ever heard of a little company called "Hulu" ? What about NBC/Unviversal or Time Warner?

They will _have_ to sell these at this price point any order to make them attractive, and without local storage? Are you kidding?

It's odd to see Apple give up the innovation leadership crown, but it seems to be happening. This week may go down in history as the year Apple finally won the battle with Microsoft (stock valuation) but lost the war to another two young guys with a bigger idea, Google.]]>May 28th 2010 10:39AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/the-next-apple-tv-revealed-cloud-storage-and-iphone-os-on-tap/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/the-next-apple-tv-revealed-cloud-storage-and-iphone-os-on-tap/
If that thing can run XBMC or Boxee, I'll take one, thanks.

Else, who the f* cares?]]>May 28th 2010 10:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/the-next-apple-tv-revealed-cloud-storage-and-iphone-os-on-tap/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/the-next-apple-tv-revealed-cloud-storage-and-iphone-os-on-tap/
You bring up good points I didn't think about. Hulu hasn't signed on to Google TV yet (or if they did, I obviously missed it), and I'm still worried that Hulu's price plan will sneak up on us anyway... But I was saying that at this price, like you said, I would buy. I don't know if I would buy it for $150 or $200. Probably not. But I don't know. On Google TV, the full web browser is nice, but I don't see the price matching up with this $99. That's the most I'm willing to pay for it, because I have a laptop and can watch tv while on the internet anyway.

Just my 2 cents.]]>May 28th 2010 10:45AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/the-next-apple-tv-revealed-cloud-storage-and-iphone-os-on-tap/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/the-next-apple-tv-revealed-cloud-storage-and-iphone-os-on-tap/May 28th 2010 10:46AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/the-next-apple-tv-revealed-cloud-storage-and-iphone-os-on-tap/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/the-next-apple-tv-revealed-cloud-storage-and-iphone-os-on-tap/May 28th 2010 10:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/the-next-apple-tv-revealed-cloud-storage-and-iphone-os-on-tap/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/the-next-apple-tv-revealed-cloud-storage-and-iphone-os-on-tap/
more like $99 if you buy 2y subscription... however much that'll be.]]>May 28th 2010 10:51AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/the-next-apple-tv-revealed-cloud-storage-and-iphone-os-on-tap/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/the-next-apple-tv-revealed-cloud-storage-and-iphone-os-on-tap/May 28th 2010 10:54AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/the-next-apple-tv-revealed-cloud-storage-and-iphone-os-on-tap/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/the-next-apple-tv-revealed-cloud-storage-and-iphone-os-on-tap/May 28th 2010 10:56AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/the-next-apple-tv-revealed-cloud-storage-and-iphone-os-on-tap/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/the-next-apple-tv-revealed-cloud-storage-and-iphone-os-on-tap/
Meh..., if I can't put XBMC and Boxee on it...]]>May 28th 2010 10:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/the-next-apple-tv-revealed-cloud-storage-and-iphone-os-on-tap/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/the-next-apple-tv-revealed-cloud-storage-and-iphone-os-on-tap/that being said, I wouldn't be shocked if in fact the revamp is done, will be announced at WWDC (which is about more than the iphone) and will go on sale right away. weeks before the GoogleTV.]]>May 28th 2010 10:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/the-next-apple-tv-revealed-cloud-storage-and-iphone-os-on-tap/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/the-next-apple-tv-revealed-cloud-storage-and-iphone-os-on-tap/
Also, I actually think going to a trimmed down OS is actually a step in the right direction. No one wants a full blown PC on their TV except geeks. Which brings me to the browser. People do not want to browse on their TV. This has been proven over and over again. The only way internet-enabled TV takes off is if it looks like a TV or DVD type interface, and nothing like a PC interface. People do not want to search for shows. They either don't know what they want to watch (and consequently can't search for it) or they do know, in which case they turn to the channel it is on. Google TV complicates things considerably.]]>May 28th 2010 10:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/the-next-apple-tv-revealed-cloud-storage-and-iphone-os-on-tap/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/the-next-apple-tv-revealed-cloud-storage-and-iphone-os-on-tap/
I too prefer my Windows Media Center, but I hope Microsoft learns from GoogleTV and the new AppleTV. They should make it easier for 3rd party apps to run natively within Media Center without direct approval from Microsoft. As it stands right now most 3rd party WMC apps, i.e. Boxee, minimizes WMC and then open a standalone program rather than running within WMC - this is not the greatest of user experiences.

I wish Microsoft would make standalone Media Center devices that are not computers, but with their Windows 7 Embedded program, it looks like they are doing what they have always done and what Google is doing with GoogleTV which is to allow 3rd party hardware vendors to create devices using their software. So hopefully we'll see some really cool Windows Media Center devices very soon.
]]>May 28th 2010 11:03AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/the-next-apple-tv-revealed-cloud-storage-and-iphone-os-on-tap/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/the-next-apple-tv-revealed-cloud-storage-and-iphone-os-on-tap/
Looks like someone's living over a year ago!
Apple doesn't exactly do the whole DRM thing anymore...
A few videos still have it...but...yeah...
DRM wouldn't exactly be a proper reason to avoid this]]>May 28th 2010 11:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/the-next-apple-tv-revealed-cloud-storage-and-iphone-os-on-tap/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/the-next-apple-tv-revealed-cloud-storage-and-iphone-os-on-tap/May 28th 2010 11:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/the-next-apple-tv-revealed-cloud-storage-and-iphone-os-on-tap/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/the-next-apple-tv-revealed-cloud-storage-and-iphone-os-on-tap/May 28th 2010 11:08AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/the-next-apple-tv-revealed-cloud-storage-and-iphone-os-on-tap/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/the-next-apple-tv-revealed-cloud-storage-and-iphone-os-on-tap/Apple might have more buying power but people who own Apple products that aren't fan-boys probably use Google for searches on the internet. We win and both companies win in the end. Also Google does not make hardware, they make the software.

]]>May 28th 2010 11:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/the-next-apple-tv-revealed-cloud-storage-and-iphone-os-on-tap/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/the-next-apple-tv-revealed-cloud-storage-and-iphone-os-on-tap/And that is the only reason why even I'd get it. But now, apparently there's no reason for this because Boxxee has their own box and unless you are into the iTunes content universe already, it makes no sense to get this. $99 or not.
Having said that, I feel bad for people who have heavily invested in iTunes. They are getting locked up more and more into it - iPod, iPhone, iPad and now even the TV. Its going to be nerve racking seeing all that shiny hardware and not being able to get it just because you invested $$ into iTunes big time. ]]>May 28th 2010 11:23AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/the-next-apple-tv-revealed-cloud-storage-and-iphone-os-on-tap/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/the-next-apple-tv-revealed-cloud-storage-and-iphone-os-on-tap/May 28th 2010 11:24AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/the-next-apple-tv-revealed-cloud-storage-and-iphone-os-on-tap/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/the-next-apple-tv-revealed-cloud-storage-and-iphone-os-on-tap/
I'd rather spend a little more and get something that does everything I want it to. It's still between Google TV and Boxee Box for me. ]]>May 28th 2010 11:25AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/the-next-apple-tv-revealed-cloud-storage-and-iphone-os-on-tap/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/the-next-apple-tv-revealed-cloud-storage-and-iphone-os-on-tap/I actually wish it were bigger.

I don't want an iPhone sized box on my AV rack...

I think I might actually put it in an "old" style ATV case..!]]>May 28th 2010 11:25AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/the-next-apple-tv-revealed-cloud-storage-and-iphone-os-on-tap/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/the-next-apple-tv-revealed-cloud-storage-and-iphone-os-on-tap/
The Apple Cloud seems scary so I would probably use my own hard drive. My only question is will it stream my content that I already have? Will it stream the following files?

- avi
- mp4
- mkv
- wmv

.mov is a given, although I must say I hate quicktime with a passion.]]>May 28th 2010 11:28AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/the-next-apple-tv-revealed-cloud-storage-and-iphone-os-on-tap/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/the-next-apple-tv-revealed-cloud-storage-and-iphone-os-on-tap/
What? Why are you bringing Natal into this? First of all don't own a 360, not after all the RRoD, and so therefore I don't care about the price of Natal, and secondly, did you read the article, it does WAY more than YouTube, hopefully for $99.]]>May 28th 2010 11:29AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/the-next-apple-tv-revealed-cloud-storage-and-iphone-os-on-tap/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/the-next-apple-tv-revealed-cloud-storage-and-iphone-os-on-tap/
See - and I couldn't disagree more with you.

I run a Media Server (WHS) and several HTPC's (WMC). I have 8TB's of movies, music, and TV shows that get beamed all over the house. I also use a web browser on my TV ALL OF THE TIME. I would say at least a couple times per week. Whether it's checking email, stocks, etc.

Where is local storage in case I don't want to stream from a server (99% of people don't run a media server)? Where is my Blu-Ray drive so I can play back Blu-Ray purchases or rentals? Where is my DVR?

Look, Apple will sell these because people will blindly buy yet another device that does something incredibly similar to their iPhone. But, that fact alone hardly makes this a worthy competitor to WMC.

And who cares about size? My HTPC's sit in a rack or behind a TV. If they shaved a few inches off nobody would even notice.]]>May 28th 2010 11:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/the-next-apple-tv-revealed-cloud-storage-and-iphone-os-on-tap/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/the-next-apple-tv-revealed-cloud-storage-and-iphone-os-on-tap/May 28th 2010 11:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/the-next-apple-tv-revealed-cloud-storage-and-iphone-os-on-tap/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/the-next-apple-tv-revealed-cloud-storage-and-iphone-os-on-tap/May 28th 2010 11:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/the-next-apple-tv-revealed-cloud-storage-and-iphone-os-on-tap/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/the-next-apple-tv-revealed-cloud-storage-and-iphone-os-on-tap/
As long as everyone keeps taking sides in the Apple vs. Google war, both companies will continue to make record profits. Isn't competition fun?]]>May 28th 2010 11:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/the-next-apple-tv-revealed-cloud-storage-and-iphone-os-on-tap/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/the-next-apple-tv-revealed-cloud-storage-and-iphone-os-on-tap/May 28th 2010 11:52AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/the-next-apple-tv-revealed-cloud-storage-and-iphone-os-on-tap/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/the-next-apple-tv-revealed-cloud-storage-and-iphone-os-on-tap/
All media center extenders that have been brought out in the past have been too expensive. Microsoft needs to create one simple box that will extend Media Center and sell it on the cheap. I would not spend >$100 for a media center extender for every TV in my house.]]>May 28th 2010 11:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/the-next-apple-tv-revealed-cloud-storage-and-iphone-os-on-tap/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/the-next-apple-tv-revealed-cloud-storage-and-iphone-os-on-tap/The problem is that I doubt Apple's device will work with your DVR. It will most likely try to get its content from iTunes.

GoogleTV more open and will work with your DVR, they are establishing an open IP protocol for CE devices to talk to each other.

Supporting the DVR is critical because most HDTV content over your broadband connection is north of 5-6Mbps, sometimes more, whereas most online content, even 1080p, is compressed much more significantly.
]]>May 28th 2010 11:54AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/the-next-apple-tv-revealed-cloud-storage-and-iphone-os-on-tap/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/the-next-apple-tv-revealed-cloud-storage-and-iphone-os-on-tap/May 28th 2010 11:54AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/the-next-apple-tv-revealed-cloud-storage-and-iphone-os-on-tap/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/the-next-apple-tv-revealed-cloud-storage-and-iphone-os-on-tap/
Both companies are great.

With Apple you get highly polished, gorgeous devices that just work. Intuitive, attractive, expensive.

With Google you get a completely open experience, a better device each time Google updates their OS (without making you buy a new device...for the most part anyway), loads of free stuff, and some pretty cool tech.
Fast, adept, interactive.

It would be great if Apple and Google got married and had little iPoogles, but then we'd have a monopoly :/ Maybe we could pull that off in China?...]]>May 28th 2010 11:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/the-next-apple-tv-revealed-cloud-storage-and-iphone-os-on-tap/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/the-next-apple-tv-revealed-cloud-storage-and-iphone-os-on-tap/I think DVR support is key for any TV device, if Google can get the Google TV platform in more TV's then just Sony then they should have the upper hand by just simply being built in from the factory. ]]>May 28th 2010 11:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/the-next-apple-tv-revealed-cloud-storage-and-iphone-os-on-tap/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/the-next-apple-tv-revealed-cloud-storage-and-iphone-os-on-tap/
I have a WDTV Live with no DVR capabilities that I'm 100% completely happy with. ]]>May 28th 2010 11:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/the-next-apple-tv-revealed-cloud-storage-and-iphone-os-on-tap/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/the-next-apple-tv-revealed-cloud-storage-and-iphone-os-on-tap/
This Apple TV sounds like it's definitely app based. So it *may* not be users actually storing their data on the cloud (thought it could be that as well) but as I see it, it would consist of loading up the device with apps from, say, netflix and abc and cbs (among others) to access *their* web-based content and streaming shows. ]]>May 28th 2010 12:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/the-next-apple-tv-revealed-cloud-storage-and-iphone-os-on-tap/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/the-next-apple-tv-revealed-cloud-storage-and-iphone-os-on-tap/May 28th 2010 12:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/the-next-apple-tv-revealed-cloud-storage-and-iphone-os-on-tap/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/the-next-apple-tv-revealed-cloud-storage-and-iphone-os-on-tap/I wonder if TV Studios are so willing to lie in bed with Apple. ]]>May 28th 2010 12:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/the-next-apple-tv-revealed-cloud-storage-and-iphone-os-on-tap/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/the-next-apple-tv-revealed-cloud-storage-and-iphone-os-on-tap/Give it a year and any good smart phone will have Apple TV or Google
TV with 1080p out]]>May 28th 2010 12:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/the-next-apple-tv-revealed-cloud-storage-and-iphone-os-on-tap/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/the-next-apple-tv-revealed-cloud-storage-and-iphone-os-on-tap/
There is no way Apple could make money off JUST $100 for that box. There would have to be some sort of subscription fee.

The hardware is just too expensive for it to cost that little. ]]>May 28th 2010 12:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/the-next-apple-tv-revealed-cloud-storage-and-iphone-os-on-tap/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/the-next-apple-tv-revealed-cloud-storage-and-iphone-os-on-tap/May 28th 2010 12:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/the-next-apple-tv-revealed-cloud-storage-and-iphone-os-on-tap/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/the-next-apple-tv-revealed-cloud-storage-and-iphone-os-on-tap/May 28th 2010 12:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/the-next-apple-tv-revealed-cloud-storage-and-iphone-os-on-tap/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/28/the-next-apple-tv-revealed-cloud-storage-and-iphone-os-on-tap/May 28th 2010 12:30PM