http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/31/best-buy-now-offering-kin-one-free-kin-two-for-50-on-contract/ Engadget Comments for http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/31/best-buy-now-offering-kin-one-free-kin-two-for-50-on-contract/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/31/best-buy-now-offering-kin-one-free-kin-two-for-50-on-contract/May 31st 2010 11:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/31/best-buy-now-offering-kin-one-free-kin-two-for-50-on-contract/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/31/best-buy-now-offering-kin-one-free-kin-two-for-50-on-contract/
its a crime . . . no matter how cheap this phone is you're still paying too much monthly and you'd have to be REALLY good at tricking yourself to not see that. ]]>May 31st 2010 11:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/31/best-buy-now-offering-kin-one-free-kin-two-for-50-on-contract/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/31/best-buy-now-offering-kin-one-free-kin-two-for-50-on-contract/May 31st 2010 11:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/31/best-buy-now-offering-kin-one-free-kin-two-for-50-on-contract/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/31/best-buy-now-offering-kin-one-free-kin-two-for-50-on-contract/
Look, I love microsoft. But the truth is that these phones just suck. The sidekicks were popular because they did the following perfectly; 1) aim, yahoo and chat clients ... 2) perfect form factor... 3) they didnt look like camel turds!!!!! Just because it does not look like android, iphone etc is a lame excuse.. I am not a fanboy of google or apple (check my posts) im a troll and i flame about MS but this phone is sh*t!!!!! Sidekicks were popular in the hood because they did things perfectly. These phones are garbage! ]]>May 31st 2010 11:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/31/best-buy-now-offering-kin-one-free-kin-two-for-50-on-contract/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/31/best-buy-now-offering-kin-one-free-kin-two-for-50-on-contract/microsoft, robbie bach, steve...whoever is in charge. peep this
there's no way you can justify a device like this, costing as much per month on data as a droid, incredible, pre plus, touch pro 2, etc...you can't download apps, you can't use it as a wifi hotspot, you can't do a lot of things that you can do w/ devices that can do the full web. and dont give people that BS about syncing to the cloud, because google, and even YOU (myphone.microsoft.com) do this for free (though in a much more limited [basically less flashy] fashion). Cut the total bill down to 59.99 or 54.99 and you might be able to work something out here. Hell, if you want, cut the minutes down to 250anytime/1000 for 30 bucks. And if they want more, let them pay for more. most kids and even younger adults dont talk nowadays anyways]]>May 31st 2010 11:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/31/best-buy-now-offering-kin-one-free-kin-two-for-50-on-contract/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/31/best-buy-now-offering-kin-one-free-kin-two-for-50-on-contract/

Charge $100 bucks for one of these is fine. Throw in 2 years of free data and I would buy it; even $5 a month for data would be justifiable.

As it is now this phone just isnt worth the data plan, its just too limited in functionality to be worth buying.

The KIN is the ipad of phones = garbage.]]>Jun 1st 2010 12:03AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/31/best-buy-now-offering-kin-one-free-kin-two-for-50-on-contract/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/31/best-buy-now-offering-kin-one-free-kin-two-for-50-on-contract/Jun 1st 2010 12:13AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/31/best-buy-now-offering-kin-one-free-kin-two-for-50-on-contract/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/31/best-buy-now-offering-kin-one-free-kin-two-for-50-on-contract/
Why is Best Buy offering the discounts. Shldn't it be Verizon. I thought they were the ones offering these douches.]]>Jun 1st 2010 1:00AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/31/best-buy-now-offering-kin-one-free-kin-two-for-50-on-contract/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/31/best-buy-now-offering-kin-one-free-kin-two-for-50-on-contract/
From Verizon's pov, they are looking to push $30 data plans like hot cakes going forward, they aren't looking for these to compete in a lower market and have them undercut their Android devices. ]]>Jun 1st 2010 1:00AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/31/best-buy-now-offering-kin-one-free-kin-two-for-50-on-contract/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/31/best-buy-now-offering-kin-one-free-kin-two-for-50-on-contract/
They arent going to sell or get anyone to buy these but a handful of people. The device just lacks too much; they need to cut price on the data plan to attract users it's that simple.

Most people that use Android arent going to jump ship to use the KIN as the demographics are different.

The point of this device SHOULD BE an entry to a low level smartphone for kids, teens or older people who are trying to upgrade from a dumbphone to something better without going wholehog to android/windows phone 7.

If it's an entry device, it deserves an entry level data plan, these users aren't going to be using alot of data so overcharging them $30 isn't something they are going to buy into. The most this data plan should be is $5 a month.

What's the point of releasing a device in the hopes no one buys it; but later push a better OS? Why even bother releasing this if you plan on undercutting it with a better OS in under 6 months (win phone 7).??]]>Jun 1st 2010 1:08AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/31/best-buy-now-offering-kin-one-free-kin-two-for-50-on-contract/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/31/best-buy-now-offering-kin-one-free-kin-two-for-50-on-contract/Jun 1st 2010 1:08AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/31/best-buy-now-offering-kin-one-free-kin-two-for-50-on-contract/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/31/best-buy-now-offering-kin-one-free-kin-two-for-50-on-contract/
I'm in agreement with the bill cut. Maybe just a data package and they can buy prepaid mins. or something. Or even free messaging because you are forced to pay for data. I will admit. I am an At&t famboi but, this is highway robbery by any carrier. To put a feature phone on the same pricing tier as a smartphone. I mean that's all these are. Don't get it twisted. Feature phones have firmware(software) and you can't add apps. That's the same with these phones. And Verizon doesn't even offer uninterrupted data or simultaneous voice and data to add insult to injury. If your on a long phone call, you'll need a break between calls for the info to update as well. So what are you paying for??]]>Jun 1st 2010 6:37AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/31/best-buy-now-offering-kin-one-free-kin-two-for-50-on-contract/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/31/best-buy-now-offering-kin-one-free-kin-two-for-50-on-contract/
Great analogy, iPad of phones....

I don't think the Kin's will be selling 2 million units all year, let alone in a few weeks.]]>Jun 1st 2010 9:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/31/best-buy-now-offering-kin-one-free-kin-two-for-50-on-contract/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/31/best-buy-now-offering-kin-one-free-kin-two-for-50-on-contract/
It backs EVERYTHING up. It is always on the internet. I don't see how that is tricking anyone. The KIN 2 does HD Video.That is a lot of internet. ]]>Jun 1st 2010 9:34AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/31/best-buy-now-offering-kin-one-free-kin-two-for-50-on-contract/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/31/best-buy-now-offering-kin-one-free-kin-two-for-50-on-contract/Jun 1st 2010 9:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/31/best-buy-now-offering-kin-one-free-kin-two-for-50-on-contract/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/31/best-buy-now-offering-kin-one-free-kin-two-for-50-on-contract/May 31st 2010 11:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/31/best-buy-now-offering-kin-one-free-kin-two-for-50-on-contract/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/31/best-buy-now-offering-kin-one-free-kin-two-for-50-on-contract/
They don't even look good. That uninformed person needs to be blind too.

The iPhone/Smartphone craze is much more deeply trenched in the minds of mainstream consumers than we give them credit for.

I think Microsoft needs to get their research teams replaced. If they only WALKED into a high school or university, they would clearly see that most people either use a very basic feature phone, or have the latest smartphones. There was no need for a middle category of Smart Feature Phones...

Still, if there was no data charge, or it was a mere 5 dollars a month, then I could still see people finding this interesting.]]>May 31st 2010 11:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/31/best-buy-now-offering-kin-one-free-kin-two-for-50-on-contract/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/31/best-buy-now-offering-kin-one-free-kin-two-for-50-on-contract/Jun 1st 2010 6:51AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/31/best-buy-now-offering-kin-one-free-kin-two-for-50-on-contract/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/31/best-buy-now-offering-kin-one-free-kin-two-for-50-on-contract/May 31st 2010 11:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/31/best-buy-now-offering-kin-one-free-kin-two-for-50-on-contract/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/31/best-buy-now-offering-kin-one-free-kin-two-for-50-on-contract/
hhhmmmm]]>May 31st 2010 11:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/31/best-buy-now-offering-kin-one-free-kin-two-for-50-on-contract/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/31/best-buy-now-offering-kin-one-free-kin-two-for-50-on-contract/
Yes, yes. It's ugly.]]>May 31st 2010 11:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/31/best-buy-now-offering-kin-one-free-kin-two-for-50-on-contract/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/31/best-buy-now-offering-kin-one-free-kin-two-for-50-on-contract/May 31st 2010 11:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/31/best-buy-now-offering-kin-one-free-kin-two-for-50-on-contract/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/31/best-buy-now-offering-kin-one-free-kin-two-for-50-on-contract/
+1 for the Wild Cats reference. :)]]>Jun 1st 2010 10:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/31/best-buy-now-offering-kin-one-free-kin-two-for-50-on-contract/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/31/best-buy-now-offering-kin-one-free-kin-two-for-50-on-contract/
They Kin two actually looks better than the G1.]]>Jun 1st 2010 4:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/31/best-buy-now-offering-kin-one-free-kin-two-for-50-on-contract/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/31/best-buy-now-offering-kin-one-free-kin-two-for-50-on-contract/May 31st 2010 11:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/31/best-buy-now-offering-kin-one-free-kin-two-for-50-on-contract/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/31/best-buy-now-offering-kin-one-free-kin-two-for-50-on-contract/May 31st 2010 11:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/31/best-buy-now-offering-kin-one-free-kin-two-for-50-on-contract/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/31/best-buy-now-offering-kin-one-free-kin-two-for-50-on-contract/
I know if these were on Sprint people like my sister would love it on a family plan, and I think it would be great for her. I however would not ever consider picking up this phone.]]>Jun 1st 2010 12:52AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/31/best-buy-now-offering-kin-one-free-kin-two-for-50-on-contract/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/31/best-buy-now-offering-kin-one-free-kin-two-for-50-on-contract/
This is the biggest fail. If it had been cheaper it might have been a hit with teens and tweens. But it's not so it isn't.

]]>Jun 1st 2010 3:37AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/31/best-buy-now-offering-kin-one-free-kin-two-for-50-on-contract/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/31/best-buy-now-offering-kin-one-free-kin-two-for-50-on-contract/
All this coming from a Microsoft fan boy.]]>May 31st 2010 11:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/31/best-buy-now-offering-kin-one-free-kin-two-for-50-on-contract/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/31/best-buy-now-offering-kin-one-free-kin-two-for-50-on-contract/
DAMN YOU BALMER! ::shakes fist in the air::]]>May 31st 2010 11:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/31/best-buy-now-offering-kin-one-free-kin-two-for-50-on-contract/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/31/best-buy-now-offering-kin-one-free-kin-two-for-50-on-contract/May 31st 2010 11:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/31/best-buy-now-offering-kin-one-free-kin-two-for-50-on-contract/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/31/best-buy-now-offering-kin-one-free-kin-two-for-50-on-contract/
Prepaid or cheap phone in one pocket and iPod Nano / Touch in the other. Few have iPhones, though that's mainly due to expensive plans when most just want to send text messages or do quick calls.]]>Jun 1st 2010 12:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/31/best-buy-now-offering-kin-one-free-kin-two-for-50-on-contract/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/31/best-buy-now-offering-kin-one-free-kin-two-for-50-on-contract/]]>May 31st 2010 11:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/31/best-buy-now-offering-kin-one-free-kin-two-for-50-on-contract/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/31/best-buy-now-offering-kin-one-free-kin-two-for-50-on-contract/May 31st 2010 11:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/31/best-buy-now-offering-kin-one-free-kin-two-for-50-on-contract/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/31/best-buy-now-offering-kin-one-free-kin-two-for-50-on-contract/
This should have been the starting price.

Now, let's see about a price reduction for that data plan eh Verizon?

Then Microsoft would have a killer on their hands.]]>May 31st 2010 11:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/31/best-buy-now-offering-kin-one-free-kin-two-for-50-on-contract/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/31/best-buy-now-offering-kin-one-free-kin-two-for-50-on-contract/Jun 1st 2010 1:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/31/best-buy-now-offering-kin-one-free-kin-two-for-50-on-contract/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/31/best-buy-now-offering-kin-one-free-kin-two-for-50-on-contract/Jun 1st 2010 9:14AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/31/best-buy-now-offering-kin-one-free-kin-two-for-50-on-contract/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/31/best-buy-now-offering-kin-one-free-kin-two-for-50-on-contract/
The list grows
The HUB
$9.99 data mandatory
Straight Talk
iPhone pass
iPad pass
KNOW THE KIN
Next up on the Verizon Screw up list LTE]]>May 31st 2010 11:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/31/best-buy-now-offering-kin-one-free-kin-two-for-50-on-contract/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/31/best-buy-now-offering-kin-one-free-kin-two-for-50-on-contract/
I like the way the (insert os name here) looks, but the hardware doesn't work for me.

And the software could use some niceness features too.]]>May 31st 2010 11:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/31/best-buy-now-offering-kin-one-free-kin-two-for-50-on-contract/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/31/best-buy-now-offering-kin-one-free-kin-two-for-50-on-contract/May 31st 2010 11:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/31/best-buy-now-offering-kin-one-free-kin-two-for-50-on-contract/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/31/best-buy-now-offering-kin-one-free-kin-two-for-50-on-contract/>I'd take an enV over a Kin
>I'd take an enV
>enV

Even though the Kin is a load of ass, you have my pity.]]>Jun 1st 2010 5:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/31/best-buy-now-offering-kin-one-free-kin-two-for-50-on-contract/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/31/best-buy-now-offering-kin-one-free-kin-two-for-50-on-contract/
/s]]>May 31st 2010 11:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/31/best-buy-now-offering-kin-one-free-kin-two-for-50-on-contract/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/31/best-buy-now-offering-kin-one-free-kin-two-for-50-on-contract/May 31st 2010 11:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/31/best-buy-now-offering-kin-one-free-kin-two-for-50-on-contract/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/31/best-buy-now-offering-kin-one-free-kin-two-for-50-on-contract/May 31st 2010 11:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/31/best-buy-now-offering-kin-one-free-kin-two-for-50-on-contract/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/31/best-buy-now-offering-kin-one-free-kin-two-for-50-on-contract/1st store didnt even have on display.
2nd store tried to switch me to Sprint ( wow the cost for sprint is good)
3rd store had it up but didnt have a working unit, and the employee said she had never seen a working one and she didnt know much about it. She did tell me it required a $30 dollar data package, and that was a rip off. (in her words) does best buy not train these people]]>May 31st 2010 11:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/31/best-buy-now-offering-kin-one-free-kin-two-for-50-on-contract/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/31/best-buy-now-offering-kin-one-free-kin-two-for-50-on-contract/It IS a ripoff. You're paying the same monthly for this thing as any other real smartphone. So the only difference is the upfront cost. Might as well get a Droid for $100. Beats the shit out of Kin Two and only $50 more at Best Buy.]]>May 31st 2010 11:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/31/best-buy-now-offering-kin-one-free-kin-two-for-50-on-contract/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/31/best-buy-now-offering-kin-one-free-kin-two-for-50-on-contract/
My Best Buy doesn't have any working models... I find it hard to believe that people buy phones without playing with them first...]]>May 31st 2010 11:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/31/best-buy-now-offering-kin-one-free-kin-two-for-50-on-contract/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/31/best-buy-now-offering-kin-one-free-kin-two-for-50-on-contract/
I might be going to sprint after the best buy reps told me how bad Verizon is going to screw me when i get my kid a phone and upgrade to a smartphone. They also showed me something called the overdrive mobile card $59 unlimited and i can hook up three computers to it.

My kid said something about the EVO 4G this morning. It might just be time to tell Verizon good bye. ]]>May 31st 2010 11:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/31/best-buy-now-offering-kin-one-free-kin-two-for-50-on-contract/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/31/best-buy-now-offering-kin-one-free-kin-two-for-50-on-contract/Jun 1st 2010 12:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/31/best-buy-now-offering-kin-one-free-kin-two-for-50-on-contract/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/31/best-buy-now-offering-kin-one-free-kin-two-for-50-on-contract/Just a heads up, with the overdrive it is only unlimited with 4G, 3G still has the 5GB cap, and you can only use 300MB while roaming.]]>Jun 1st 2010 9:50AM