http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/02/steve-jobs-at-d8-foxconn-iphone-prototype-tvs-and-more/ Engadget Comments for Steve Jobs at D8: Foxconn, iPhone prototype, TVs, and more http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/02/steve-jobs-at-d8-foxconn-iphone-prototype-tvs-and-more/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/02/steve-jobs-at-d8-foxconn-iphone-prototype-tvs-and-more/could someone be kind enough to donate Steve some new clothes, jeans, socks and shoes please...]]>Jun 2nd 2010 11:39AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/02/steve-jobs-at-d8-foxconn-iphone-prototype-tvs-and-more/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/02/steve-jobs-at-d8-foxconn-iphone-prototype-tvs-and-more/My thoughts exactly. I'm poorer, and I have better shoes than that! Unless he has special/custom shoes: intended to look terrible, while expensive.]]>Jun 2nd 2010 11:51AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/02/steve-jobs-at-d8-foxconn-iphone-prototype-tvs-and-more/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/02/steve-jobs-at-d8-foxconn-iphone-prototype-tvs-and-more/
Better do that sooner....
]]>Jun 2nd 2010 11:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/02/steve-jobs-at-d8-foxconn-iphone-prototype-tvs-and-more/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/02/steve-jobs-at-d8-foxconn-iphone-prototype-tvs-and-more/
Steve doesn't look that impressive at all whether it be his clothes or illness (can't really blame him on that). Thankfully it's the products he makes which is what most people judge him on.]]>Jun 2nd 2010 12:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/02/steve-jobs-at-d8-foxconn-iphone-prototype-tvs-and-more/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/02/steve-jobs-at-d8-foxconn-iphone-prototype-tvs-and-more/it's ironic that Steve J said that Bill Gates has no taste.. but at least Steve has no vanity AFAICT]]>Jun 2nd 2010 12:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/02/steve-jobs-at-d8-foxconn-iphone-prototype-tvs-and-more/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/02/steve-jobs-at-d8-foxconn-iphone-prototype-tvs-and-more/
Good god, you people drive me crazy.

Is your scroll finger broken? Are you mentally incapacitated? If you see content that doesn't interest you, SKIP IT.

And if you think that a site is poorly edited and horribly biased in favor of a company whose very mention makes you break out into a fevered, vein-bulging sweat as you rage at the screen and shake your tiny fists, then by all means, stop the self-destructive masochism and simply go somewhere else.

]]>Jun 2nd 2010 1:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/02/steve-jobs-at-d8-foxconn-iphone-prototype-tvs-and-more/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/02/steve-jobs-at-d8-foxconn-iphone-prototype-tvs-and-more/
Really? who gives a crap what he wears? I would love to wear that to work :P]]>Jun 2nd 2010 2:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/02/steve-jobs-at-d8-foxconn-iphone-prototype-tvs-and-more/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/02/steve-jobs-at-d8-foxconn-iphone-prototype-tvs-and-more/
I am sure he like how easy it is to get dressed every morning. ]]>Jun 2nd 2010 3:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/02/steve-jobs-at-d8-foxconn-iphone-prototype-tvs-and-more/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/02/steve-jobs-at-d8-foxconn-iphone-prototype-tvs-and-more/
I am sure he likes how easy it is to get dressed every morning. ]]>Jun 2nd 2010 3:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/02/steve-jobs-at-d8-foxconn-iphone-prototype-tvs-and-more/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/02/steve-jobs-at-d8-foxconn-iphone-prototype-tvs-and-more/
I agree, he looks like a Hobo who's just been taken off the street. :)]]>Jun 2nd 2010 5:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/02/steve-jobs-at-d8-foxconn-iphone-prototype-tvs-and-more/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/02/steve-jobs-at-d8-foxconn-iphone-prototype-tvs-and-more/http://j.mp/steve-jobs-next-move]]>Jun 2nd 2010 6:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/02/steve-jobs-at-d8-foxconn-iphone-prototype-tvs-and-more/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/02/steve-jobs-at-d8-foxconn-iphone-prototype-tvs-and-more/Jun 2nd 2010 11:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/02/steve-jobs-at-d8-foxconn-iphone-prototype-tvs-and-more/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/02/steve-jobs-at-d8-foxconn-iphone-prototype-tvs-and-more/
His sheep must be fed]]>Jun 2nd 2010 11:44AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/02/steve-jobs-at-d8-foxconn-iphone-prototype-tvs-and-more/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/02/steve-jobs-at-d8-foxconn-iphone-prototype-tvs-and-more/
those sheep will be on his yard?]]>Jun 2nd 2010 11:56AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/02/steve-jobs-at-d8-foxconn-iphone-prototype-tvs-and-more/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/02/steve-jobs-at-d8-foxconn-iphone-prototype-tvs-and-more/
The Book of Jobs]]>Jun 2nd 2010 12:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/02/steve-jobs-at-d8-foxconn-iphone-prototype-tvs-and-more/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/02/steve-jobs-at-d8-foxconn-iphone-prototype-tvs-and-more/Jun 2nd 2010 1:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/02/steve-jobs-at-d8-foxconn-iphone-prototype-tvs-and-more/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/02/steve-jobs-at-d8-foxconn-iphone-prototype-tvs-and-more/Jun 2nd 2010 11:29AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/02/steve-jobs-at-d8-foxconn-iphone-prototype-tvs-and-more/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/02/steve-jobs-at-d8-foxconn-iphone-prototype-tvs-and-more/
Yeah... Not.
I'll be getting the EVO, but you are simply wrong. Or trolling.]]>Jun 2nd 2010 4:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/02/steve-jobs-at-d8-foxconn-iphone-prototype-tvs-and-more/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/02/steve-jobs-at-d8-foxconn-iphone-prototype-tvs-and-more/Jun 2nd 2010 11:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/02/steve-jobs-at-d8-foxconn-iphone-prototype-tvs-and-more/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/02/steve-jobs-at-d8-foxconn-iphone-prototype-tvs-and-more/
I would complain about the part where he claims that Gizmodo tried to extort them. Gizmodo's actions may have been immoral and/or unethical, but as far as I can tell, they were legal. In order for Apple to claim stolen property, they had to claim that the device was really theirs; that's the law. That Apple had reservations about claiming the phone (and therefore admitting its validity) does not make it extortion. That's a disingenuous claim, and a "chilling effect" is its only purpose. It was a very sleazy comment, in my opinion.]]>Jun 2nd 2010 12:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/02/steve-jobs-at-d8-foxconn-iphone-prototype-tvs-and-more/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/02/steve-jobs-at-d8-foxconn-iphone-prototype-tvs-and-more/
I wouldn't call what he said "sleazy", mainly because I (like you) do not know the whole story. I would say that Steve's the most informed person regarding the entire Gizmodo incident of anyone on this site. He might know plenty of things that occurred that could be considered "extortion", but neither I, nor you, would know about them.]]>Jun 2nd 2010 1:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/02/steve-jobs-at-d8-foxconn-iphone-prototype-tvs-and-more/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/02/steve-jobs-at-d8-foxconn-iphone-prototype-tvs-and-more/Jun 2nd 2010 1:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/02/steve-jobs-at-d8-foxconn-iphone-prototype-tvs-and-more/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/02/steve-jobs-at-d8-foxconn-iphone-prototype-tvs-and-more/Jun 2nd 2010 2:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/02/steve-jobs-at-d8-foxconn-iphone-prototype-tvs-and-more/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/02/steve-jobs-at-d8-foxconn-iphone-prototype-tvs-and-more/
"The extortion had to do with gizmodo not wanting to return the phone unless they could get a signed letter from apple saying that it was in fact an apple prototype."

Yes, and Gizmodo is legally entitled to that under California law. That law is in place so that I can't falsely claim, without risking a perjury conviction, that the laptop you found on the BART the other day is mine. If you want your property back, you have to be willing to sign your name to it. That's not extortion; it's California law.]]>Jun 2nd 2010 3:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/02/steve-jobs-at-d8-foxconn-iphone-prototype-tvs-and-more/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/02/steve-jobs-at-d8-foxconn-iphone-prototype-tvs-and-more/
is it?

So people carry around small legally required sign off books in case they drop something or pick something up?

Person A: "excuse me, I think you just dropped your wallet"

Person B: "oh, thankyou it's this new jacket"

Person A: "I just need you to sign for it to prove it's yours"

Person B: "what? But it's got my ID in it, look that's me"

Person A: "huh, you aren't a Californian local are you. It's the law here"

....

I'm sure that happens a couple thousand times a day across California. ]]>Jun 2nd 2010 6:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/02/steve-jobs-at-d8-foxconn-iphone-prototype-tvs-and-more/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/02/steve-jobs-at-d8-foxconn-iphone-prototype-tvs-and-more/
Good Bye Horrible service from ATT and Good by crazy Dropped calls!!!]]>Jun 2nd 2010 11:34AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/02/steve-jobs-at-d8-foxconn-iphone-prototype-tvs-and-more/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/02/steve-jobs-at-d8-foxconn-iphone-prototype-tvs-and-more/
You think that won't happen with Spring? HA...enjoy that delusion what it lasts.

Thats all that my experience was with Sprint. And I supposedly live in an are with Sprint 3G...]]>Jun 2nd 2010 11:39AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/02/steve-jobs-at-d8-foxconn-iphone-prototype-tvs-and-more/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/02/steve-jobs-at-d8-foxconn-iphone-prototype-tvs-and-more/
I have the Evo reserved but I'm going to just wait the three days and see what the Jobed one has to say on Monday. I mean it's only a few more days and I'm already on AT&T. I really want the Evo but I'm looking at over 300 dollars just to ditch my old service (getting the Evo+cancelling AT&T).

I will say this though: after AT&T's bullshit service changes and new ETF; Apple is going to have to deliver BIG TIME for me to stick with them. ]]>Jun 2nd 2010 12:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/02/steve-jobs-at-d8-foxconn-iphone-prototype-tvs-and-more/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/02/steve-jobs-at-d8-foxconn-iphone-prototype-tvs-and-more/
http://mobile.aol.com/articles/2009/01/15/which-carrier-has-the-least-amount-of-dropped-calls/

I know thats a year and a half old, but check it out.]]>Jun 2nd 2010 12:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/02/steve-jobs-at-d8-foxconn-iphone-prototype-tvs-and-more/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/02/steve-jobs-at-d8-foxconn-iphone-prototype-tvs-and-more/Jun 2nd 2010 11:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/02/steve-jobs-at-d8-foxconn-iphone-prototype-tvs-and-more/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/02/steve-jobs-at-d8-foxconn-iphone-prototype-tvs-and-more/
give me a break. everyone knows it was Apple's phone. ]]>Jun 2nd 2010 12:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/02/steve-jobs-at-d8-foxconn-iphone-prototype-tvs-and-more/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/02/steve-jobs-at-d8-foxconn-iphone-prototype-tvs-and-more/Jun 2nd 2010 12:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/02/steve-jobs-at-d8-foxconn-iphone-prototype-tvs-and-more/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/02/steve-jobs-at-d8-foxconn-iphone-prototype-tvs-and-more/
The subtext of Gizmodo's letter to Jobs is pretty slimy. BLam is clearly trying to use someone else's property as bargaining chip against them. That's extortion. If I find your dog, call you up, and suggest that I will return it only on condition of compensation, I am extorting you.

I agree that it's a harsh interpretation, but it is well within the ballpark.]]>Jun 2nd 2010 1:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/02/steve-jobs-at-d8-foxconn-iphone-prototype-tvs-and-more/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/02/steve-jobs-at-d8-foxconn-iphone-prototype-tvs-and-more/
"If I find your dog, call you up, and suggest that I will return it only on condition of compensation, I am extorting you."

But if I find your dog, call you up, and suggest that I will return it only on condition that you provide me a signed, notarized claim of ownership, as per California law, I am not extorting anyone.

Obviously the authors of this law never envisioned a scenario in which the claim of ownership itself has value. But the fact remains that Gizmodo followed the law.

(P.S., Go Saints)]]>Jun 2nd 2010 4:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/02/steve-jobs-at-d8-foxconn-iphone-prototype-tvs-and-more/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/02/steve-jobs-at-d8-foxconn-iphone-prototype-tvs-and-more/
Wow. Is that really the law in California? Written, signed, AND notarized? Jesus. It's a wonder anybody ever gets their dog back.

At any rate, you are spot on that the confirmation itself was the thing of value. And if you can understand that element of the subtext, then you can see why Steve feels as though he was extorted.

As I said earlier, it's a harsh interpretation, but one I think Jobs is entitled to.]]>Jun 2nd 2010 4:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/02/steve-jobs-at-d8-foxconn-iphone-prototype-tvs-and-more/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/02/steve-jobs-at-d8-foxconn-iphone-prototype-tvs-and-more/
There's a big difference between feeling extorted and taking unfounded legal action against the persons by whom you feel extorted. In which case you're probably just trying to create a "chilling effect."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chilling_effect_%28term%29]]>Jun 2nd 2010 4:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/02/steve-jobs-at-d8-foxconn-iphone-prototype-tvs-and-more/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/02/steve-jobs-at-d8-foxconn-iphone-prototype-tvs-and-more/
We originally weren't talking about the legal validity of the case, but rather whether or not Steve was completely out of line in characterizing the incident as 'extortion'.]]>Jun 2nd 2010 4:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/02/steve-jobs-at-d8-foxconn-iphone-prototype-tvs-and-more/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/02/steve-jobs-at-d8-foxconn-iphone-prototype-tvs-and-more/
Geaux Saints?]]>Jun 2nd 2010 5:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/02/steve-jobs-at-d8-foxconn-iphone-prototype-tvs-and-more/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/02/steve-jobs-at-d8-foxconn-iphone-prototype-tvs-and-more/Jun 2nd 2010 11:36AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/02/steve-jobs-at-d8-foxconn-iphone-prototype-tvs-and-more/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/02/steve-jobs-at-d8-foxconn-iphone-prototype-tvs-and-more/
Steve is getting upset! Don't insult Steve! You're killing independent Steve! - Steve]]>Jun 2nd 2010 11:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/02/steve-jobs-at-d8-foxconn-iphone-prototype-tvs-and-more/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/02/steve-jobs-at-d8-foxconn-iphone-prototype-tvs-and-more/
I don't know how many times we can cover this but Flash isn't ready for smartphones. Adobe has been severely lazy on implementing this right and Apple has every right to keep it off the phone. Installing Flash would be like knowingly clicking on a link thats going to install malware. Just a bad idea.

By the time Adobe gets this right, all the video content will bet HTML5 and there will be no need for whining. I'm sure you're tearing up that Hulu won't be able to play ads. Brightcove, provider of many news sites video content now switches to HTML5 when on the iPad, iPhone or iPad. Flash video wasn't genius at the beginning either, but as it catches on it will be the standard for desktop and mobile.]]>Jun 2nd 2010 11:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/02/steve-jobs-at-d8-foxconn-iphone-prototype-tvs-and-more/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/02/steve-jobs-at-d8-foxconn-iphone-prototype-tvs-and-more/
Don't confuse arrogance with honesty. He is just in it for greed like everyone else. If apple was destroying the gulf of Mexico with ipods you would get a similar story. Besides if apple was drilling or oil I'm sure it would use proprietary equipment that would be twice the cost to fix if it did leak....





And it wouldn't run flash :)]]>Jun 2nd 2010 11:45AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/02/steve-jobs-at-d8-foxconn-iphone-prototype-tvs-and-more/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/02/steve-jobs-at-d8-foxconn-iphone-prototype-tvs-and-more/
YEAH!!! ALL CEO'S ARE CORRUPT! *headsmack*]]>Jun 2nd 2010 11:55AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/02/steve-jobs-at-d8-foxconn-iphone-prototype-tvs-and-more/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/02/steve-jobs-at-d8-foxconn-iphone-prototype-tvs-and-more/
No not all I guess that was an ignorant statement but he defnitely is.]]>Jun 2nd 2010 12:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/02/steve-jobs-at-d8-foxconn-iphone-prototype-tvs-and-more/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/02/steve-jobs-at-d8-foxconn-iphone-prototype-tvs-and-more/
You're half right. If you aren't in business to make money, then what are you doing?]]>Jun 2nd 2010 12:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/02/steve-jobs-at-d8-foxconn-iphone-prototype-tvs-and-more/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/02/steve-jobs-at-d8-foxconn-iphone-prototype-tvs-and-more/Jun 2nd 2010 1:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/02/steve-jobs-at-d8-foxconn-iphone-prototype-tvs-and-more/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/02/steve-jobs-at-d8-foxconn-iphone-prototype-tvs-and-more/
Jobs makes some good points about Flash. It is on its way out, but unlike the floppy drives that he took off the first iMacs, Flash is not hardware (so it's not like when it does go out you have this useless device on your computer) and I think the iPhone (unlike many other phones) could handle Flash. Its OSX, not Windows Mobile.]]>Jun 2nd 2010 2:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/02/steve-jobs-at-d8-foxconn-iphone-prototype-tvs-and-more/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/02/steve-jobs-at-d8-foxconn-iphone-prototype-tvs-and-more/
Don't get me wrong, I love the new features that css3 amongst other stuff is bringing, but you have to be realistic at the same time browsers have nowhere near the unison between them to make all this perfectly viable in the near future, you'd be naive to think otherwise.]]>Jun 2nd 2010 2:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/02/steve-jobs-at-d8-foxconn-iphone-prototype-tvs-and-more/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/02/steve-jobs-at-d8-foxconn-iphone-prototype-tvs-and-more/i do love his, hypercard was more popular than flash in its day mumbo jumbo. isnt it part of realtime player now?

and we all know how good realtime is :)]]>Jun 2nd 2010 3:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/02/steve-jobs-at-d8-foxconn-iphone-prototype-tvs-and-more/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/02/steve-jobs-at-d8-foxconn-iphone-prototype-tvs-and-more/Jun 2nd 2010 7:28PM