http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/bigfoot-networks-reveal-gpu-nic-combo-card-talk-up-motherboar/ Engadget Comments for Bigfoot Networks reveal GPU / NIC combo card, talks up motherboard integration and WiFi http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/bigfoot-networks-reveal-gpu-nic-combo-card-talk-up-motherboar/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/bigfoot-networks-reveal-gpu-nic-combo-card-talk-up-motherboar/Jun 3rd 2010 2:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/bigfoot-networks-reveal-gpu-nic-combo-card-talk-up-motherboar/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/bigfoot-networks-reveal-gpu-nic-combo-card-talk-up-motherboar/
"and while pricing remains up in the air, the outfit's CEO told us that buying the combo card would obviously be cheaper than buying each one on its own."]]>Jun 3rd 2010 2:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/bigfoot-networks-reveal-gpu-nic-combo-card-talk-up-motherboar/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/bigfoot-networks-reveal-gpu-nic-combo-card-talk-up-motherboar/Jun 3rd 2010 4:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/bigfoot-networks-reveal-gpu-nic-combo-card-talk-up-motherboar/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/bigfoot-networks-reveal-gpu-nic-combo-card-talk-up-motherboar/
It's not really about how much this one will cost.. It will cost too much. But when everyone else gets in the game, namely eVGA and XFX my two favorites then we have a ballgame ;)

I'd certainly spend an extra $30 or so adding in a "gaming nic" even if it didn't do anything LOL just good enough pricing for my epeen.]]>Jun 4th 2010 8:24AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/bigfoot-networks-reveal-gpu-nic-combo-card-talk-up-motherboar/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/bigfoot-networks-reveal-gpu-nic-combo-card-talk-up-motherboar/Jun 3rd 2010 2:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/bigfoot-networks-reveal-gpu-nic-combo-card-talk-up-motherboar/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/bigfoot-networks-reveal-gpu-nic-combo-card-talk-up-motherboar/Can we just say dip dip dibble? This is insatiable! Some people know next to nothing of it.]]>Jun 3rd 2010 2:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/bigfoot-networks-reveal-gpu-nic-combo-card-talk-up-motherboar/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/bigfoot-networks-reveal-gpu-nic-combo-card-talk-up-motherboar/Jun 3rd 2010 2:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/bigfoot-networks-reveal-gpu-nic-combo-card-talk-up-motherboar/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/bigfoot-networks-reveal-gpu-nic-combo-card-talk-up-motherboar/Jun 3rd 2010 2:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/bigfoot-networks-reveal-gpu-nic-combo-card-talk-up-motherboar/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/bigfoot-networks-reveal-gpu-nic-combo-card-talk-up-motherboar/Jun 3rd 2010 2:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/bigfoot-networks-reveal-gpu-nic-combo-card-talk-up-motherboar/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/bigfoot-networks-reveal-gpu-nic-combo-card-talk-up-motherboar/
I used to believe as you did, until I saw reviews, where they put games to the test. It wasn't so much the better ping that intrigued me, it was the fact that FRAME RATES went up, since the networking stack was removed from the OS and moved to hardware. The same concept that frame rates go up when you have a dedicated video processor instead of your OS handling the video.

I also don't buy that it is a myth, with a decent NIC. Look at the reviews for the older Killer NIC cards. Most reviewers were SURPRISED at the results. They were not expecting a game performance increase, and like you, thought it was snake oil.

When you compare the NIC upgrade for 10-20% performance increase in games vs a new video card for about that... many times, the better money is spent on the NIC. ]]>Jun 3rd 2010 2:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/bigfoot-networks-reveal-gpu-nic-combo-card-talk-up-motherboar/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/bigfoot-networks-reveal-gpu-nic-combo-card-talk-up-motherboar/Jun 3rd 2010 2:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/bigfoot-networks-reveal-gpu-nic-combo-card-talk-up-motherboar/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/bigfoot-networks-reveal-gpu-nic-combo-card-talk-up-motherboar/Jun 3rd 2010 3:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/bigfoot-networks-reveal-gpu-nic-combo-card-talk-up-motherboar/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/bigfoot-networks-reveal-gpu-nic-combo-card-talk-up-motherboar/
anything higher then 60FPS is a waste unless your refresh rate supports it (and their are very few 120Hertz computer moniters)

your argument is void.

Gaming NICs = Snakeoil

Gaming ROUTERs on the other hand, give port based packet priority...on a shared network this is useful.]]>Jun 3rd 2010 4:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/bigfoot-networks-reveal-gpu-nic-combo-card-talk-up-motherboar/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/bigfoot-networks-reveal-gpu-nic-combo-card-talk-up-motherboar/Jun 3rd 2010 4:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/bigfoot-networks-reveal-gpu-nic-combo-card-talk-up-motherboar/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/bigfoot-networks-reveal-gpu-nic-combo-card-talk-up-motherboar/Understand your point, was curious if you ever really tried the Killer 2100 gaming network card or Xeno Pro? Have you read these 2 new reviews that talk about why this gaming network card is NOT as you note " GbE NIC is a GbE NIC"...It's really a difference of a DUMB NIC vs. Intelligent NIC...
Don’t take my word for it that the Killer 2100 gaming network card improves your latency and FPS for a faster and smoother game play, just see the benchmarks from 3rd party reviewers..there are 2 out now with BootDaily giving it a Bootworthy award and ThinkComputers giving it editors choice after they throughly tested and benchmarked the card in which shows the performance..

http://www.bootdaily.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1488&Itemid=56

http://www.thinkcomputers.org/bigfoot-networks-killer-2100-gaming-network-card-review/6/
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Send me one for free and I'll be happy to run my own benchmarks on it.
]]>Jun 3rd 2010 10:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/bigfoot-networks-reveal-gpu-nic-combo-card-talk-up-motherboar/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/bigfoot-networks-reveal-gpu-nic-combo-card-talk-up-motherboar/Happy to hear your happy to run your own benchmarks and try the Killer 2100 gaming network card...

I suspect that since you are reading this and engaged that your a tech enthusiast so know how easy it is to buy tech products and return them if not fully satisfied, I can't get you a card, sorry, but can promise you Newegg.com and others have return policies you can bank on...(:

What have you got to loose? Again I'm not asking you to take my word about it and understand if you want to be skeptical that is why I pointed out the Bootdaily.com 10 out of 10 score and ThinkComputers Editors Choice award on this Killer 2100...why waste time arguing with their #s?

Anways, hope you try it and look forward to your post once you actually experienced the product.. ]]>Jun 4th 2010 2:07AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/bigfoot-networks-reveal-gpu-nic-combo-card-talk-up-motherboar/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/bigfoot-networks-reveal-gpu-nic-combo-card-talk-up-motherboar/
The "Gaming NICs" (at least the Killer NIC) have hardware UDP acceleration. If your application makes heavy use of UDP, you'll have an improvement. If your application only uses TCP then you won't.

Most NICs do not have any kind of hardware acceleration.

So no, not all gigabit NICs are created equal.

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I'm not poopooing the company or their efforts here, but I just don't see the point of their product.]]>Jun 3rd 2010 2:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/bigfoot-networks-reveal-gpu-nic-combo-card-talk-up-motherboar/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/bigfoot-networks-reveal-gpu-nic-combo-card-talk-up-motherboar/Jun 3rd 2010 2:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/bigfoot-networks-reveal-gpu-nic-combo-card-talk-up-motherboar/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/bigfoot-networks-reveal-gpu-nic-combo-card-talk-up-motherboar/Jun 3rd 2010 4:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/bigfoot-networks-reveal-gpu-nic-combo-card-talk-up-motherboar/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/bigfoot-networks-reveal-gpu-nic-combo-card-talk-up-motherboar/Jun 3rd 2010 2:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/bigfoot-networks-reveal-gpu-nic-combo-card-talk-up-motherboar/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/bigfoot-networks-reveal-gpu-nic-combo-card-talk-up-motherboar/Jun 3rd 2010 2:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/bigfoot-networks-reveal-gpu-nic-combo-card-talk-up-motherboar/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/bigfoot-networks-reveal-gpu-nic-combo-card-talk-up-motherboar/Engadget cannot be bothered with proofreading, they have to spend more time being awesomely cynic ]]>Jun 3rd 2010 3:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/bigfoot-networks-reveal-gpu-nic-combo-card-talk-up-motherboar/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/bigfoot-networks-reveal-gpu-nic-combo-card-talk-up-motherboar/Jun 3rd 2010 2:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/bigfoot-networks-reveal-gpu-nic-combo-card-talk-up-motherboar/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/bigfoot-networks-reveal-gpu-nic-combo-card-talk-up-motherboar/Jun 3rd 2010 5:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/bigfoot-networks-reveal-gpu-nic-combo-card-talk-up-motherboar/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/bigfoot-networks-reveal-gpu-nic-combo-card-talk-up-motherboar/Jun 3rd 2010 2:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/bigfoot-networks-reveal-gpu-nic-combo-card-talk-up-motherboar/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/bigfoot-networks-reveal-gpu-nic-combo-card-talk-up-motherboar/Jun 3rd 2010 2:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/bigfoot-networks-reveal-gpu-nic-combo-card-talk-up-motherboar/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/bigfoot-networks-reveal-gpu-nic-combo-card-talk-up-motherboar/Jun 3rd 2010 2:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/bigfoot-networks-reveal-gpu-nic-combo-card-talk-up-motherboar/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/bigfoot-networks-reveal-gpu-nic-combo-card-talk-up-motherboar/
cfosspeed that is... 15€ or something...]]>Jun 3rd 2010 3:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/bigfoot-networks-reveal-gpu-nic-combo-card-talk-up-motherboar/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/bigfoot-networks-reveal-gpu-nic-combo-card-talk-up-motherboar/http://www.speedtest.net/result/833038772.png

I doubt it would help me.]]>Jun 3rd 2010 3:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/bigfoot-networks-reveal-gpu-nic-combo-card-talk-up-motherboar/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/bigfoot-networks-reveal-gpu-nic-combo-card-talk-up-motherboar/It might not help you, but would it help me?
http://www.speedtest.net/result/835610682.png
(Serious question)]]>Jun 3rd 2010 3:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/bigfoot-networks-reveal-gpu-nic-combo-card-talk-up-motherboar/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/bigfoot-networks-reveal-gpu-nic-combo-card-talk-up-motherboar/Jun 3rd 2010 3:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/bigfoot-networks-reveal-gpu-nic-combo-card-talk-up-motherboar/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/bigfoot-networks-reveal-gpu-nic-combo-card-talk-up-motherboar/
I am not sure that lowering a ping time from 300ms to 200ms is going to do anything, nor am I sure that taking your ping from 20ms to 10ms is worth it either.]]>Jun 3rd 2010 3:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/bigfoot-networks-reveal-gpu-nic-combo-card-talk-up-motherboar/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/bigfoot-networks-reveal-gpu-nic-combo-card-talk-up-motherboar/Jun 3rd 2010 4:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/bigfoot-networks-reveal-gpu-nic-combo-card-talk-up-motherboar/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/bigfoot-networks-reveal-gpu-nic-combo-card-talk-up-motherboar/
http://www.speedtest.net/result/835699849.png and people say rogers sucks.]]>Jun 3rd 2010 5:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/bigfoot-networks-reveal-gpu-nic-combo-card-talk-up-motherboar/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/bigfoot-networks-reveal-gpu-nic-combo-card-talk-up-motherboar/Jun 3rd 2010 5:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/bigfoot-networks-reveal-gpu-nic-combo-card-talk-up-motherboar/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/bigfoot-networks-reveal-gpu-nic-combo-card-talk-up-motherboar/Jun 3rd 2010 3:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/bigfoot-networks-reveal-gpu-nic-combo-card-talk-up-motherboar/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/bigfoot-networks-reveal-gpu-nic-combo-card-talk-up-motherboar/
Oh and my results http://www.speedtest.net/result/835655400.png

I also suggest checking out their other site pingtest.net]]>Jun 3rd 2010 4:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/bigfoot-networks-reveal-gpu-nic-combo-card-talk-up-motherboar/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/bigfoot-networks-reveal-gpu-nic-combo-card-talk-up-motherboar/Jun 3rd 2010 4:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/bigfoot-networks-reveal-gpu-nic-combo-card-talk-up-motherboar/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/bigfoot-networks-reveal-gpu-nic-combo-card-talk-up-motherboar/
I'm surprised someone like Asus or Creative haven't tried to approach ATI or NVidia about a combo GPU/Sound Card since most gamers have had to sacrifice (stop buying and using) sound cards in order to fit the huge multi-slot graphic cards that are made now, especially to get the SLI/Crossfire configuration. It seems to me that something like that could be a huge hit... but then again... you have to take into consideration the limited bandwidth... but it might be done with the new PCI-E 3.0 spec that's suppose to come out soon...
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