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You US mobile phone customers really are blessed by your networks.]]>Jun 3rd 2010 9:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/nokia-e73-mode-brings-a-familiar-form-factor-to-t-mobile-us-on-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/nokia-e73-mode-brings-a-familiar-form-factor-to-t-mobile-us-on-t/
Amazon sells the E72 for $330. With T-Mobile's subsidized plan, it's $70 + $10/month for 24-months, giving you a total of $310 for the phone. This is the first time I've seen the phone cheaper with a subsidized plan.]]>Jun 3rd 2010 10:37AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/nokia-e73-mode-brings-a-familiar-form-factor-to-t-mobile-us-on-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/nokia-e73-mode-brings-a-familiar-form-factor-to-t-mobile-us-on-t/Jun 3rd 2010 11:11AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/nokia-e73-mode-brings-a-familiar-form-factor-to-t-mobile-us-on-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/nokia-e73-mode-brings-a-familiar-form-factor-to-t-mobile-us-on-t/
http://europe.nokia.com/find-products/devices

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No, but you can dial 1-800-FLOWERS or 1-800-MATTRESS. You just need to use uppercase. I dial 1-800-COMCAST all the time (not by choice....)]]>Jun 3rd 2010 11:33AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/nokia-e73-mode-brings-a-familiar-form-factor-to-t-mobile-us-on-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/nokia-e73-mode-brings-a-familiar-form-factor-to-t-mobile-us-on-t/
Ok, I will. 2010 but apparently text antialiasing is still a dark art.]]>Jun 3rd 2010 9:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/nokia-e73-mode-brings-a-familiar-form-factor-to-t-mobile-us-on-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/nokia-e73-mode-brings-a-familiar-form-factor-to-t-mobile-us-on-t/
Seems to be doing fine on Maemo though. ]]>Jun 3rd 2010 9:55AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/nokia-e73-mode-brings-a-familiar-form-factor-to-t-mobile-us-on-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/nokia-e73-mode-brings-a-familiar-form-factor-to-t-mobile-us-on-t/Well, fonts are really fully anti aliased on my N80. But then again it has 416x352 2.1" screen... Antialiasing on QVGA display might make the texts look worse.]]>Jun 3rd 2010 10:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/nokia-e73-mode-brings-a-familiar-form-factor-to-t-mobile-us-on-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/nokia-e73-mode-brings-a-familiar-form-factor-to-t-mobile-us-on-t/Jun 3rd 2010 9:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/nokia-e73-mode-brings-a-familiar-form-factor-to-t-mobile-us-on-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/nokia-e73-mode-brings-a-familiar-form-factor-to-t-mobile-us-on-t/Jun 3rd 2010 9:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/nokia-e73-mode-brings-a-familiar-form-factor-to-t-mobile-us-on-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/nokia-e73-mode-brings-a-familiar-form-factor-to-t-mobile-us-on-t/Jun 3rd 2010 9:59AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/nokia-e73-mode-brings-a-familiar-form-factor-to-t-mobile-us-on-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/nokia-e73-mode-brings-a-familiar-form-factor-to-t-mobile-us-on-t/
Been using the blue e63 for about a year now. It works incredibly well and the form factor is perfect. I drop it all the time and it still looks and runs reasonably well. s60 v9.3 is feeling pretty old though. It needs s^3. ]]>Jun 3rd 2010 1:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/nokia-e73-mode-brings-a-familiar-form-factor-to-t-mobile-us-on-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/nokia-e73-mode-brings-a-familiar-form-factor-to-t-mobile-us-on-t/Jun 3rd 2010 9:25AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/nokia-e73-mode-brings-a-familiar-form-factor-to-t-mobile-us-on-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/nokia-e73-mode-brings-a-familiar-form-factor-to-t-mobile-us-on-t/Jun 3rd 2010 9:52AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/nokia-e73-mode-brings-a-familiar-form-factor-to-t-mobile-us-on-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/nokia-e73-mode-brings-a-familiar-form-factor-to-t-mobile-us-on-t/Jun 3rd 2010 9:25AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/nokia-e73-mode-brings-a-familiar-form-factor-to-t-mobile-us-on-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/nokia-e73-mode-brings-a-familiar-form-factor-to-t-mobile-us-on-t/BlackBerry doesn't even come close to the capability of a Symbian 60 phone. Its a sad joke in comparison.]]>Jun 3rd 2010 10:37AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/nokia-e73-mode-brings-a-familiar-form-factor-to-t-mobile-us-on-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/nokia-e73-mode-brings-a-familiar-form-factor-to-t-mobile-us-on-t/Jun 3rd 2010 9:28AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/nokia-e73-mode-brings-a-familiar-form-factor-to-t-mobile-us-on-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/nokia-e73-mode-brings-a-familiar-form-factor-to-t-mobile-us-on-t/Jun 3rd 2010 9:29AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/nokia-e73-mode-brings-a-familiar-form-factor-to-t-mobile-us-on-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/nokia-e73-mode-brings-a-familiar-form-factor-to-t-mobile-us-on-t/
***

> @bergwitz Wait, are you telling me that the e-mail
> options SUCK?!

Exactly.


> You mean the same phone that is almost the
> default business phone across Europe and Asia?
> Oh poor business men... :(

Mistaking business people for email power users
says a lot about how clueless you are.

All right, I'll explain it to you. I'm subscribed
to +/- 30 technical mailing lists and there are
at least four things that make the default email
app on the e71 useless:

1. slow on large mailboxes
2. does not set the `replied' flag
3. does not set the In-Reply-To header
4. no threaded view

nr. 2 alone will also terribly suck for people
with moderate needs while nr. 3 makes an archive
with threaded discussions impossible. It also
pisses off *many* people who receive your mail
through a mailing list and cannot figure out why
the hell they always have to fix your mails
manually in order to make their mailboxes
readable again.


> USB1.1 fine you caught me on that but the E72
> has USB2.0...

Its nice that we can agree on the rather
disturbing fact that Nokia gave their flagship
device USB 1.1 during a time where every crappy
30$ mp3-player had USB 2.0.


> Besides the USB1.1, which didnt do much for you,
> or the 2-second freeze how come this is a horrible
> device?

Continued:

- Menu

You cannot customize your Menu. Oh, yes, you
can, but it will reset itself for some reason
every two or three weeks.

The Menu is laggy. You go into it, move right
two times and exactly when you press OK that
goddamn system resets the position of the cursor
and you end up waiting because you just started a
fancy game that doesn't give away its captured
keys until you're in the main menu

- Internet Radio

There is no equalizer so you end up running the
music player in the background because the latter
has an equalizer and its settings, oh wonder,
affect all outputs. But as soon as the system
plays a warning tone this instantly resets all
equalizer settings and you get a proper ear-rape
if you abused the equalizer to quiet down the
radio station.

That brings me to another point: There are too
few volume levels. Sometimes the Station is
heavily amped and you suddenly have the choice
between silence and ear-damage.

The Internet Radio App loses connection way too
often. And doesn't try very hard to reconnect.
The old `open-source' internet radio works much
better in this regard but is PITA too because of
other serious shortcomings.

- Headphone Jack

The position sucks (left side), the dimension too
(2.5mm).

- 3rd party software

Why do I have to mess with the system time just
because I want to install a perfectly safe
software package?

Why are Java-Apps permanently asking for
permissions for everything? Why is the system
unable to remember my choice?

- Browser

Why am I not allowed to delete certain bookmark
folders?

- Others

Why am I not allowed to delete certain profiles?

When charging the device and the device is off:
Why the hell does it need to turn on the display
and play a shitty warning tone when the battery
is full? I really don't care otherwise I would
have turned that damned thing on..

A perfect way to scare the crap out of people
while they are trying to get some sleep.

***

Just sayin'..
]]>Jun 3rd 2010 9:32AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/nokia-e73-mode-brings-a-familiar-form-factor-to-t-mobile-us-on-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/nokia-e73-mode-brings-a-familiar-form-factor-to-t-mobile-us-on-t/
btw, its possible that the E73 is much better. i just doubt that the people who built the E71 are generally capable of doing sane things..]]>Jun 3rd 2010 9:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/nokia-e73-mode-brings-a-familiar-form-factor-to-t-mobile-us-on-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/nokia-e73-mode-brings-a-familiar-form-factor-to-t-mobile-us-on-t/Jun 3rd 2010 9:40AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/nokia-e73-mode-brings-a-familiar-form-factor-to-t-mobile-us-on-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/nokia-e73-mode-brings-a-familiar-form-factor-to-t-mobile-us-on-t/
It's like when people come up with a list of the iPhone 2G's initial limitations to prove that today's iPhone is still total crap...]]>Jun 3rd 2010 9:46AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/nokia-e73-mode-brings-a-familiar-form-factor-to-t-mobile-us-on-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/nokia-e73-mode-brings-a-familiar-form-factor-to-t-mobile-us-on-t/Jun 3rd 2010 9:48AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/nokia-e73-mode-brings-a-familiar-form-factor-to-t-mobile-us-on-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/nokia-e73-mode-brings-a-familiar-form-factor-to-t-mobile-us-on-t/So, you are basing your opinion of this yet to be launched product on a product that is over 2 years old? Or are you just two years late complaining about the old product? Either way, why don't you go to the website and read the specs before you start assuming it's the same device? I know that several of your complaints have been addressed and fixed. ]]>Jun 3rd 2010 9:48AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/nokia-e73-mode-brings-a-familiar-form-factor-to-t-mobile-us-on-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/nokia-e73-mode-brings-a-familiar-form-factor-to-t-mobile-us-on-t/
Half of the stuff you wrote is irrelvant now, the other half subjective. The new E72 really flies, so that should not be an issue either. Added to that, the phone you hate so much was dubbed best phone of the year by Stuff Magazine, even over the IPhone. Exactly because most people apparently do not have the issues you have.

In this formfactor, there is not a single blackberry that can beat the E72. We will have to wait and see, but if this E73 is similar to the E72, its a winner.

And, free navigation for life! ]]>Jun 3rd 2010 9:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/nokia-e73-mode-brings-a-familiar-form-factor-to-t-mobile-us-on-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/nokia-e73-mode-brings-a-familiar-form-factor-to-t-mobile-us-on-t/
no matter how fast your hardware is---if it runs symbian you're screwed. I'd never buy a symbian phone again.

And why are people downranking my OP? I'm just trying to warn those poor souls who are seriously considering buying Nokia Hardware.. also its not that i'm not backing my claims.. bah, anyway.]]>Jun 3rd 2010 9:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/nokia-e73-mode-brings-a-familiar-form-factor-to-t-mobile-us-on-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/nokia-e73-mode-brings-a-familiar-form-factor-to-t-mobile-us-on-t/
It's so annoying how the apps asks you EVERY f*cking time if you want to connect to the internet. Yes I really do! Are you sure? Yes, damn it! ]]>Jun 3rd 2010 9:54AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/nokia-e73-mode-brings-a-familiar-form-factor-to-t-mobile-us-on-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/nokia-e73-mode-brings-a-familiar-form-factor-to-t-mobile-us-on-t/Jun 3rd 2010 9:55AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/nokia-e73-mode-brings-a-familiar-form-factor-to-t-mobile-us-on-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/nokia-e73-mode-brings-a-familiar-form-factor-to-t-mobile-us-on-t/
sorry, thats the wrong advice. he's not talking about the AP-menu.. he's talking about java apps constantly asking for permission-this, permission-that..]]>Jun 3rd 2010 9:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/nokia-e73-mode-brings-a-familiar-form-factor-to-t-mobile-us-on-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/nokia-e73-mode-brings-a-familiar-form-factor-to-t-mobile-us-on-t/
Why should i care about mag-ratings? actually i did care back then and it got me into buying a ridiculous phone.. and btw, while i hate the iPhone... i really f*ing hate the E71. Saying that the E71 is better is just brain-dead opinion from people that never had to use said device.]]>Jun 3rd 2010 10:01AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/nokia-e73-mode-brings-a-familiar-form-factor-to-t-mobile-us-on-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/nokia-e73-mode-brings-a-familiar-form-factor-to-t-mobile-us-on-t/
Used both, just don't share your opinion. Which is what it is, nothing more, which hardly warrants an entire chapter of subjective reasoning, eh?]]>Jun 3rd 2010 10:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/nokia-e73-mode-brings-a-familiar-form-factor-to-t-mobile-us-on-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/nokia-e73-mode-brings-a-familiar-form-factor-to-t-mobile-us-on-t/
Dude, I used both of them, I just completely disagree, and added that apparently I am not the only disagreeing with you, which is why I linked the article. Even so, you wrote an entire chapter on why you personally do not like the device, thanks for sharing. You dont like it, dont buy another one, but dont pretend to know whats good for others.]]>Jun 3rd 2010 10:08AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/nokia-e73-mode-brings-a-familiar-form-factor-to-t-mobile-us-on-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/nokia-e73-mode-brings-a-familiar-form-factor-to-t-mobile-us-on-t/
I'm not trying to pretend anything.. its just my opinion and probably helpful if you're undecided. If somebody wrote that `entire chapter' back then when i was under the influence of shallow reviews my decision probably would have been better.]]>Jun 3rd 2010 10:17AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/nokia-e73-mode-brings-a-familiar-form-factor-to-t-mobile-us-on-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/nokia-e73-mode-brings-a-familiar-form-factor-to-t-mobile-us-on-t/
What you using now?]]>Jun 3rd 2010 10:17AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/nokia-e73-mode-brings-a-familiar-form-factor-to-t-mobile-us-on-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/nokia-e73-mode-brings-a-familiar-form-factor-to-t-mobile-us-on-t/Jun 3rd 2010 10:24AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/nokia-e73-mode-brings-a-familiar-form-factor-to-t-mobile-us-on-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/nokia-e73-mode-brings-a-familiar-form-factor-to-t-mobile-us-on-t/
The N900, got it 2 weeks ago, most impressed I have ever been with a phone. The multitasking is sweet, the OS is pretty, its quick, runs real programs, not just "apps" and the resistive screen almost as responsive as capacitive screens. Best of all, I do skype gtalk msn texting and then some, all threaded in 1 app. I go to my addres book and for every person I can see how I can reach them, their status, all of it.

It lets me write emails, adjust settings in a webbased cms, see flash, have 3 chats open and listen to music, and then switch between those concurrently running apps in the best multitasking I have seen so far, comparable to OSX expose.

I am really looking forward to the succesor of the N900, but after using the Blackberries for a while, and knowing the E72 well, I thought it justified to say I would prefer one greatly over the other. ]]>Jun 3rd 2010 10:25AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/nokia-e73-mode-brings-a-familiar-form-factor-to-t-mobile-us-on-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/nokia-e73-mode-brings-a-familiar-form-factor-to-t-mobile-us-on-t/
Conversely, myself would have been scared to purchase the device, and would have ended up with a BB. Of course, you can dislike the device, and try to explain to others why you didnt like it, I just feel you stated your opinion as fact and in my mind most of the things you mention are simply not true or relevant anymore, especially in the context of this device. ]]>Jun 3rd 2010 10:29AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/nokia-e73-mode-brings-a-familiar-form-factor-to-t-mobile-us-on-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/nokia-e73-mode-brings-a-familiar-form-factor-to-t-mobile-us-on-t/
Did you have an E71 or an E71x btw..?]]>Jun 3rd 2010 10:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/nokia-e73-mode-brings-a-familiar-form-factor-to-t-mobile-us-on-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/nokia-e73-mode-brings-a-familiar-form-factor-to-t-mobile-us-on-t/
In the end it was a tossup for me between n900 or motorola milestone (droid).

I got the milestone and phone- and camera wise- I think the n900 would've been better for me, but I was so frustrated suffering with Symbian that I was even scared of Maemo.

Nevertheless, I think there are decreasing numbers of people who had Symbian that would take Symbian again, and this I think is what users like bergwhitz and myself are feeling: Regardless of the superb hardware quality, Symbian is a gamble/risk.]]>Jun 3rd 2010 10:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/nokia-e73-mode-brings-a-familiar-form-factor-to-t-mobile-us-on-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/nokia-e73-mode-brings-a-familiar-form-factor-to-t-mobile-us-on-t/
E71]]>Jun 3rd 2010 10:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/nokia-e73-mode-brings-a-familiar-form-factor-to-t-mobile-us-on-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/nokia-e73-mode-brings-a-familiar-form-factor-to-t-mobile-us-on-t/
Well, Symbian really was never the issue. It was the UI layer. For non touch devices, like the candybars & qwerty devices like the E72, symbian is hands down the best OS out there. That is not even up for debate.

Symbian for touch devices, like the 5800, only has gotten reasonable after the latest firmware updates that give it kinetic scrolling etc. Nokia did a quick and dirty touch adaptation of S60 and it showed. Even with that being true, the 5800 is still supported, and between 60 & 70 million have been sold, so it is hardly a failure.

I follow Symbian closely, and with their current technology, they have gotten Symbian as far as they can with S^3. It still uses AVKON for the UI, and I think they did a great job with that restriction. Under the hood, many performance improvements have been made and S^3 has been consistently maxing out benchmarks on the N8 (with an ARM11 CPU at that!)

S^3 will not disappoint, neither will the N8, but once burned... Go check one out when it comes out.

BTW, Maemo rocks!]]>Jun 3rd 2010 10:52AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/nokia-e73-mode-brings-a-familiar-form-factor-to-t-mobile-us-on-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/nokia-e73-mode-brings-a-familiar-form-factor-to-t-mobile-us-on-t/
Thus, only their "approved" software (that you purchased from them through their app store) is allowed to automatically connect to the internet without user override/approval.

I know this because I have had the E71x from ATT for over a year now.
Best phone I've had, too. Although they preloaded it with a bunch of locked bloatware/trial apps that cannot be removed without the use of the X-plore app (free with a 3 second nag screen, pay to remove the nag).]]>Jun 3rd 2010 10:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/nokia-e73-mode-brings-a-familiar-form-factor-to-t-mobile-us-on-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/nokia-e73-mode-brings-a-familiar-form-factor-to-t-mobile-us-on-t/
``I just feel you stated your opinion as fact''

``That is not even up for debate''

Don't you double-standard me, sir.]]>Jun 3rd 2010 11:12AM