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*Sigh*

Next.]]>Jun 7th 2010 2:45AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/07/samsung-galaxy-tab-comes-in-three-sizes-ships-this-fall/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/07/samsung-galaxy-tab-comes-in-three-sizes-ships-this-fall/
sell it CHEAP samsung.]]>Jun 7th 2010 2:49AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/07/samsung-galaxy-tab-comes-in-three-sizes-ships-this-fall/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/07/samsung-galaxy-tab-comes-in-three-sizes-ships-this-fall/Jun 7th 2010 3:03AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/07/samsung-galaxy-tab-comes-in-three-sizes-ships-this-fall/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/07/samsung-galaxy-tab-comes-in-three-sizes-ships-this-fall/
10-inch Super AMOLED? I don't think it will be even remotely cheap...]]>Jun 7th 2010 3:03AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/07/samsung-galaxy-tab-comes-in-three-sizes-ships-this-fall/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/07/samsung-galaxy-tab-comes-in-three-sizes-ships-this-fall/
My guess is $2,799 for the 8"

:)]]>Jun 7th 2010 3:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/07/samsung-galaxy-tab-comes-in-three-sizes-ships-this-fall/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/07/samsung-galaxy-tab-comes-in-three-sizes-ships-this-fall/
Remember that OLED tv from Sony...

I am thinking the 10 inch will cost about the same...]]>Jun 7th 2010 3:08AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/07/samsung-galaxy-tab-comes-in-three-sizes-ships-this-fall/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/07/samsung-galaxy-tab-comes-in-three-sizes-ships-this-fall/
i don't think any of them are Super AMOLED, would be insanely sweet but reality has to set in somewhere.

The tab looks freakin sick to me, hate touch Wiz but theres no way XDA are gonna let such sweet hardware run to waste.. the day one of them gets rooted (phone or tab) i'd get one]]>Jun 7th 2010 3:42AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/07/samsung-galaxy-tab-comes-in-three-sizes-ships-this-fall/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/07/samsung-galaxy-tab-comes-in-three-sizes-ships-this-fall/
True, I don't think it's gonna be S-AMOLED too. Plus from the image above; the colors on the display don't look rich enough, especially when compared to the Galaxy S beside it.]]>Jun 7th 2010 3:52AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/07/samsung-galaxy-tab-comes-in-three-sizes-ships-this-fall/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/07/samsung-galaxy-tab-comes-in-three-sizes-ships-this-fall/
Coming out at 2-2.5M won locally, a 15" LG debuted at 3,000,000 won, this could get bumped down to a reasonable price (by Korean standards) for a on the go device.

Netbooks don't often retail cheaper than $500 USD. This is incorporating touch features, which is practically a required feature for all phones in Korea, even in feature phones I kid you not.

OLED isn't unreasonable, and it was the original rumors, they still exist. I'm not sure how much the printing consistency/quality go down when going to SuperAMOLED. The technology and capacity might be there due to all the investment Samsung is putting in this year (FYI to all those who don't know, they are the World's biggest Tech company, bigger than HP & they are setting their record for R&D + capital investments this year). ]]>Jun 7th 2010 3:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/07/samsung-galaxy-tab-comes-in-three-sizes-ships-this-fall/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/07/samsung-galaxy-tab-comes-in-three-sizes-ships-this-fall/Jun 7th 2010 4:01AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/07/samsung-galaxy-tab-comes-in-three-sizes-ships-this-fall/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/07/samsung-galaxy-tab-comes-in-three-sizes-ships-this-fall/Jun 7th 2010 4:03AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/07/samsung-galaxy-tab-comes-in-three-sizes-ships-this-fall/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/07/samsung-galaxy-tab-comes-in-three-sizes-ships-this-fall/
That's right, 10 in., Froyo, ports, and ]]>Jun 7th 2010 9:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/07/samsung-galaxy-tab-comes-in-three-sizes-ships-this-fall/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/07/samsung-galaxy-tab-comes-in-three-sizes-ships-this-fall/http://j.mp/tablet-by-samsung-previewed]]>Jun 13th 2010 3:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/07/samsung-galaxy-tab-comes-in-three-sizes-ships-this-fall/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/07/samsung-galaxy-tab-comes-in-three-sizes-ships-this-fall/Jun 7th 2010 2:46AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/07/samsung-galaxy-tab-comes-in-three-sizes-ships-this-fall/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/07/samsung-galaxy-tab-comes-in-three-sizes-ships-this-fall/
Well it's Android so... um...

Yeah these jokes just write themselves!]]>Jun 7th 2010 2:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/07/samsung-galaxy-tab-comes-in-three-sizes-ships-this-fall/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/07/samsung-galaxy-tab-comes-in-three-sizes-ships-this-fall/
I didn't get your joke.

That's probably because I'm an Apple fanboy?

Explain it to me very carefully, or else I will freeze up and reboot]]>Jun 7th 2010 3:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/07/samsung-galaxy-tab-comes-in-three-sizes-ships-this-fall/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/07/samsung-galaxy-tab-comes-in-three-sizes-ships-this-fall/Jun 7th 2010 3:08AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/07/samsung-galaxy-tab-comes-in-three-sizes-ships-this-fall/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/07/samsung-galaxy-tab-comes-in-three-sizes-ships-this-fall/Jun 7th 2010 2:48AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/07/samsung-galaxy-tab-comes-in-three-sizes-ships-this-fall/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/07/samsung-galaxy-tab-comes-in-three-sizes-ships-this-fall/I hear ya. Samsung really didn't do themselves a favor with galaxy in Europe and those phones in US.
I read the headline like this:
Samsung Galaxy Tab comes in three sizes, ships this fail?
:)]]>Jun 7th 2010 7:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/07/samsung-galaxy-tab-comes-in-three-sizes-ships-this-fall/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/07/samsung-galaxy-tab-comes-in-three-sizes-ships-this-fall/
its swell.


]]>Jun 7th 2010 2:51AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/07/samsung-galaxy-tab-comes-in-three-sizes-ships-this-fall/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/07/samsung-galaxy-tab-comes-in-three-sizes-ships-this-fall/Jun 7th 2010 3:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/07/samsung-galaxy-tab-comes-in-three-sizes-ships-this-fall/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/07/samsung-galaxy-tab-comes-in-three-sizes-ships-this-fall/Jun 7th 2010 2:54AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/07/samsung-galaxy-tab-comes-in-three-sizes-ships-this-fall/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/07/samsung-galaxy-tab-comes-in-three-sizes-ships-this-fall/Jun 7th 2010 2:56AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/07/samsung-galaxy-tab-comes-in-three-sizes-ships-this-fall/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/07/samsung-galaxy-tab-comes-in-three-sizes-ships-this-fall/
Except you don't have the strong support for the app and cydia store.

How many games did EA, Gamesloft make for android compared to iPhone os?

That's what I thought.]]>Jun 7th 2010 3:08AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/07/samsung-galaxy-tab-comes-in-three-sizes-ships-this-fall/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/07/samsung-galaxy-tab-comes-in-three-sizes-ships-this-fall/
Who the fuck cares? Buy an Android tablet, then root it and install Ubuntu, use WINE and play any game you want...given proper hardware of course.

And the sole reason of Cydia's existence is to allow installation of apps that Apple has deprived you of...Android does not have such foolish curation.]]>Jun 7th 2010 3:10AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/07/samsung-galaxy-tab-comes-in-three-sizes-ships-this-fall/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/07/samsung-galaxy-tab-comes-in-three-sizes-ships-this-fall/You know this doesn't have Flash, do you? At least not until they update to Froyo, if they ever do, that is.

I'd love to see more and more of these Android devices on the market, not only because more choice is good, but even more so to see how Flash on Android will fail with all the different hardware specs, Android versions, screen sizes, etc. Adobe will never ever be able to keep up with this, and people will realize why Flash isn't so great after all.]]>Jun 7th 2010 5:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/07/samsung-galaxy-tab-comes-in-three-sizes-ships-this-fall/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/07/samsung-galaxy-tab-comes-in-three-sizes-ships-this-fall/Jun 7th 2010 2:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/07/samsung-galaxy-tab-comes-in-three-sizes-ships-this-fall/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/07/samsung-galaxy-tab-comes-in-three-sizes-ships-this-fall/Jun 7th 2010 3:02AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/07/samsung-galaxy-tab-comes-in-three-sizes-ships-this-fall/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/07/samsung-galaxy-tab-comes-in-three-sizes-ships-this-fall/Jun 7th 2010 3:03AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/07/samsung-galaxy-tab-comes-in-three-sizes-ships-this-fall/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/07/samsung-galaxy-tab-comes-in-three-sizes-ships-this-fall/
Actually, Samsung makes processors, flash memory, hard drives, DISPLAYS, and quite a number of other products ...

Why NOT use all of that to their advantage and create something like this tablet...?]]>Jun 7th 2010 3:12AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/07/samsung-galaxy-tab-comes-in-three-sizes-ships-this-fall/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/07/samsung-galaxy-tab-comes-in-three-sizes-ships-this-fall/
Complain about their support, bugs, something constructive like every other person here. But yeah, give up making money, genius. ]]>Jun 7th 2010 3:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/07/samsung-galaxy-tab-comes-in-three-sizes-ships-this-fall/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/07/samsung-galaxy-tab-comes-in-three-sizes-ships-this-fall/
Samsung here is doing it wrong too, as well as anyone lazy who slaps a phone OS inside a big screen device and call it a day. Call it a phoneblet, a tabphone or even a tablone, but never call it a tablet.]]>Jun 7th 2010 3:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/07/samsung-galaxy-tab-comes-in-three-sizes-ships-this-fall/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/07/samsung-galaxy-tab-comes-in-three-sizes-ships-this-fall/
Its Saad, really.]]>Jun 7th 2010 3:11AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/07/samsung-galaxy-tab-comes-in-three-sizes-ships-this-fall/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/07/samsung-galaxy-tab-comes-in-three-sizes-ships-this-fall/Jun 7th 2010 3:13AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/07/samsung-galaxy-tab-comes-in-three-sizes-ships-this-fall/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/07/samsung-galaxy-tab-comes-in-three-sizes-ships-this-fall/
At least somebody still has some sense left in this fanboy infested world...

FULL OS. Period. (through in Wacom digitizer and handwriting recognition in there too, with high resolution displays...and make it less than 15 mm please?)]]>Jun 7th 2010 3:13AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/07/samsung-galaxy-tab-comes-in-three-sizes-ships-this-fall/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/07/samsung-galaxy-tab-comes-in-three-sizes-ships-this-fall/
Tablets that run a full OS have been around for years. They didn't sell too well. They were expensive... Windows XP certainly wasn't built for touch... you had to use a stylus... etc. That's what Steve was talking about.

Then, Steve puts a mobile OS on a tablet... and wow... it sells.

Even HP... the world's largest computer manufacturer... pulled the plug on the HP Slate running full Windows 7. True story.

So, whatever you wanna call them... phoneblet, a tabphone or even a tablone... that's what people are buying.

Here's a bunch of Windows 7 tablets that might be coming out soon. But let's be honest... you aren't gonna buy one anyway:

http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/03/windows-7-tablet-roundup-from-computex-nay-tabletex/]]>Jun 7th 2010 3:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/07/samsung-galaxy-tab-comes-in-three-sizes-ships-this-fall/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/07/samsung-galaxy-tab-comes-in-three-sizes-ships-this-fall/It's funny how you turn Steve's issue from 7 years back into a contradiction, now that he's proven right by not making a tablet with a full desktop OS, like the ones 7 years ago.

People don't want a laptop without a keyboard, they never have, and they never will, period. Sure, a tablet with a desktop OS should be useful for a very select group of people, but Steve got it right: tablets serve no purpose for getting real work done, but if sufficiently accessible, they can be a great media consumption device.]]>Jun 7th 2010 5:45AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/07/samsung-galaxy-tab-comes-in-three-sizes-ships-this-fall/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/07/samsung-galaxy-tab-comes-in-three-sizes-ships-this-fall/Jun 7th 2010 3:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/07/samsung-galaxy-tab-comes-in-three-sizes-ships-this-fall/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/07/samsung-galaxy-tab-comes-in-three-sizes-ships-this-fall/Jun 7th 2010 3:24AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/07/samsung-galaxy-tab-comes-in-three-sizes-ships-this-fall/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/07/samsung-galaxy-tab-comes-in-three-sizes-ships-this-fall/Jun 7th 2010 3:39AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/07/samsung-galaxy-tab-comes-in-three-sizes-ships-this-fall/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/07/samsung-galaxy-tab-comes-in-three-sizes-ships-this-fall/Jun 7th 2010 3:28AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/07/samsung-galaxy-tab-comes-in-three-sizes-ships-this-fall/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/07/samsung-galaxy-tab-comes-in-three-sizes-ships-this-fall/Jun 7th 2010 3:46AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/07/samsung-galaxy-tab-comes-in-three-sizes-ships-this-fall/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/07/samsung-galaxy-tab-comes-in-three-sizes-ships-this-fall/
Three different screen sizes? Lunacy.]]>Jun 7th 2010 3:44AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/07/samsung-galaxy-tab-comes-in-three-sizes-ships-this-fall/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/07/samsung-galaxy-tab-comes-in-three-sizes-ships-this-fall/
I say this highly doubting I'll buy this. ]]>Jun 7th 2010 3:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/07/samsung-galaxy-tab-comes-in-three-sizes-ships-this-fall/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/07/samsung-galaxy-tab-comes-in-three-sizes-ships-this-fall/He does raise a valid point. How am I, as a developer, going to write an Android applications that looks good on 4", 5", 7", 8" and 10" screen sizes? The answer: I'm not, because it would be a nightmare. Which is why I write iPhone OS applications. Fragmentation really isn't helping Android.]]>Jun 7th 2010 5:48AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/07/samsung-galaxy-tab-comes-in-three-sizes-ships-this-fall/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/07/samsung-galaxy-tab-comes-in-three-sizes-ships-this-fall/

Firstly, isn't the resolution what you would care about most as the developer? So, even if these did have different sizes, its the resolution you are trying to develop for. If that's correct, then your main concern would be, 'do these have standard resolutions'. If they do, it's somewhat easier (e.g. the 7" actually matching the Dell Streak's resolution)? If the 10"matched the resolution of the 9.7" iPad, while there would be tons of code to re-write, you'd have a very good idea of how it'd look, right?

Can you tell me how this is a different case than the PC. Is it market size? There are so many more resolutions and screen sizes to deal with, so does Windows and/or the drivers make that more manageable for developers? Or is it just the costs/benefits pay off more?

Still, like I'm saying, choice is normally good. While I don't think this would triple sales, developers would obviously be better off having triple sales even if it meant triple the sizes they have to deal with (just taking the current example in isolation.)


Really, I understand the problems in general of developing for Android, especially when compared to the iPhone and in the future compared to WP7. But, I'm under the impression that new devices, as long as they are not creating new niches aren't doing as much damage as some people would lead others to believe. And judging from the growth of the App store and compatibility of the apps, many developers are doing a good job at accommodating for consumers wishes to have their choice (here I understand the depth of development going into apps hasn't reached as deep as the app store and that coding for the app store can be a more custom rather than least-common-denominator product).

TIA if you get to any of the above. ]]>Jun 7th 2010 8:44AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/07/samsung-galaxy-tab-comes-in-three-sizes-ships-this-fall/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/07/samsung-galaxy-tab-comes-in-three-sizes-ships-this-fall/>> Firstly, isn't the resolution what you would care about most as the developer? So, even if these did have different sizes, its the resolution you are trying to develop for.

You're right, resolution influences the UI design more than screen size, though the latter can also have quite some impact on usability, for example when buttons get too small to hit consistently on smaller screen sizes.

>> Can you tell me how this is a different case than the PC. Is it market size? There are so many more resolutions and screen sizes to deal with, so does Windows and/or the drivers make that more manageable for developers?

On PC's the UI toolkits are completely geared towards multiple, resizable windows, scrolling areas and accurate pointing devices, as well as large screen resolutions. IE: you can stuff much more in a window, and the stuff you put in it can be much smaller. Also, you can use multiple overlapping windows, and the screen aspect ratio is normally constant (no rotation). So size constraints are much less an issue. Which is why most desktop applications aren't size constraint at all, in fact, applications that don't allow resizing are typically preceived as very annying. Anyway, try imagining a Windows or OS X desktop with 320x240, 320x480 or 800x480, without a mouse, and you'll probably have to agree that it would be pretty difficult to write complex applications fthat work well using the normal desktop UI toolkits.

>> Still, like I'm saying, choice is normally good. While I don't think this would triple sales, developers would obviously be better off having triple sales even if it meant triple the sizes they have to deal with (just taking the current example in isolation.)

Choice isn't always and only a good thing, it also has downsides. If I target Android, I have to either write for the lowes common denominator, or pick a range of more-or-less comparable devices and target only these. Note that this isn't only about screen size, but also about CPU and GPU capabilities. Especially with games, it quickly becomes a nightmare if you have to cover devices with both OpenGL ES1 and ES2. With screens ranging from 0.0768 to almost 1 megapixel resolution. With 500Mhz to 1Ghz CPU's. Of course bigger development studio's can have different people working on different versions for different devices, but for me, as a lone developer who develops for mobile as a hobby, next to a day job, I'd rather pick a uniform platform over a fragmented one with a similar userbase. If many developers do the same, it leads to less applications and lower average quality, which is exactly what the Android Market shows.

>> But, I'm under the impression that new devices, as long as they are not creating new niches aren't doing as much damage as some people would lead others to believe.

Well it all depends on the application itself of course, and the device differences. For many applications, resolution and screen size are large irrelevant, particularly for the simpler ones that don't have many controls. But as you add layers of UI complexity, the differences get much more annoying. Of course you can work around everything, try to be resolution-independent where possible, but like I said: it's all a tradeoff between implementation effort and possible revenue that every developer needs to make. Would you rather develop for 3 million iPads sold and put all your effort into optimizing it for that hardware, or for 10 million Android tablets ranging from Android 1.5 to 2.2, screen sizes from 5" to 10", CPU's ranging from 500Mhz to 1 Ghz, with the very probable risk it will influence the quality and features of your application?]]>Jun 7th 2010 10:03AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/07/samsung-galaxy-tab-comes-in-three-sizes-ships-this-fall/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/07/samsung-galaxy-tab-comes-in-three-sizes-ships-this-fall/
"Would you rather develop for 3 million iPads sold and put all your effort into optimizing it for that hardware, or for 10 million Android tablets ranging from Android 1.5 to 2.2, screen sizes from 5" to 10", CPU's ranging from 500Mhz to 1 Ghz, with the very probable risk it will influence the quality and features of your application?"

I think, and again, I'm not in the development community. There are good reasons to go after both. First, lets use your numbers (though you are definitely being more generous than you should be, hehe). If there are 3x the # of Android tablets as Apple then it first would be dependent on what kind of developer you are. Again, I'll use you as an example. You're alone and you have to maximize your results from your limited time. If Android tablets are more prevalent, selling faster than the iPad *AND* there are less developers developing for the Android tablets then you can actually try to limit your consumer supported devices by more than 50% while focusing on the more future-proof consumer devices, besides those owners show that they have a larger propensity to consume, while having less competition in the marketplace relative to the iPhone.
]]>Jun 7th 2010 10:23AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/07/samsung-galaxy-tab-comes-in-three-sizes-ships-this-fall/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/07/samsung-galaxy-tab-comes-in-three-sizes-ships-this-fall/Well, I have to be completely honest and admit that I don't actually have any experience developing for Android. But I can tell you that I've been in the position to either go for iPhone OS or Android, and I decided to go for the first, specfically with platform uniformity in mind. My impression is that I can deliver a higher quality application that is guaranteed to work on a larger installed base than I could guarantee on Android. I only need one (or in my case 2) devices to test on, I know the exact hardware capabilities, and I know that the platform will be supported and updated in the future, on the hardware I'm targetting right now.

Maybe I'm different from other developers, but I like the idea of having some form of control over what devices and OS versions my application will be deployed to. It allows me to focus on maxing out the capabilities of the hardware and software, and I believe it will allow better support and updates in the future. ]]>Jun 7th 2010 10:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/07/samsung-galaxy-tab-comes-in-three-sizes-ships-this-fall/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/07/samsung-galaxy-tab-comes-in-three-sizes-ships-this-fall/
With iPhone, Jobs chooses for you. With Android, the market will choose. Android is just now gearing up. In a year or so, standards will shape up. Things like the original Droid (with its unusual screen ratio) will disappear. Also, people buying the older model phones won't be buying apps.

And the company that gets out updates to the latest version of Android in a shorter time will attract more sales.

By the way, doesn't the new iPhone have a different resolution than all the older iPhones? Doesn't that mean that as an iPhone developer you have to support two different screen sizes?]]>Jul 10th 2010 6:47PM