http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/apple-revises-ios-rules-on-outside-advertisers-cuts-out-google/ Engadget Comments for http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/apple-revises-ios-rules-on-outside-advertisers-cuts-out-google/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/apple-revises-ios-rules-on-outside-advertisers-cuts-out-google/Jun 8th 2010 2:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/apple-revises-ios-rules-on-outside-advertisers-cuts-out-google/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/apple-revises-ios-rules-on-outside-advertisers-cuts-out-google/Walled Garden? Monopoly? Closed Eco-system?
Now I see why Apple will be LONELY in this world, and Google always making friends: Intel, Sony Ericsson, HTC, Motorola, LG, Samsung, Dell, Logitech, Dish Networks, etc...
This is getting interesting.
Union makes the Force.]]>Jun 8th 2010 3:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/apple-revises-ios-rules-on-outside-advertisers-cuts-out-google/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/apple-revises-ios-rules-on-outside-advertisers-cuts-out-google/...or stinky.]]>Jun 8th 2010 3:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/apple-revises-ios-rules-on-outside-advertisers-cuts-out-google/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/apple-revises-ios-rules-on-outside-advertisers-cuts-out-google/Jun 8th 2010 3:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/apple-revises-ios-rules-on-outside-advertisers-cuts-out-google/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/apple-revises-ios-rules-on-outside-advertisers-cuts-out-google/
or spammy... hey you're not my president!]]>Jun 8th 2010 3:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/apple-revises-ios-rules-on-outside-advertisers-cuts-out-google/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/apple-revises-ios-rules-on-outside-advertisers-cuts-out-google/Forgot Adobe.
Remember all those CEOs at Google i/o? Wow, like the Justice League of America or Superfriends?]]>Jun 8th 2010 3:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/apple-revises-ios-rules-on-outside-advertisers-cuts-out-google/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/apple-revises-ios-rules-on-outside-advertisers-cuts-out-google/
Apple needs to stop living in their box of imagination. (like Spongbob and Patrick do lol)

They need to realize their product can't be controlled soley by them (iTunes, ads, apps) and that they're are heading down a dark path of self destruction.

One of these days you'll learn. I used to love you, but these stunts you're pulling have driven me away completely (except for your Macbook Pro...yummy)

Realize your evil ways Apple. Come back.]]>Jun 8th 2010 3:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/apple-revises-ios-rules-on-outside-advertisers-cuts-out-google/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/apple-revises-ios-rules-on-outside-advertisers-cuts-out-google/
Yes, but how long is "for now"]]>Jun 8th 2010 3:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/apple-revises-ios-rules-on-outside-advertisers-cuts-out-google/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/apple-revises-ios-rules-on-outside-advertisers-cuts-out-google/Jun 8th 2010 3:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/apple-revises-ios-rules-on-outside-advertisers-cuts-out-google/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/apple-revises-ios-rules-on-outside-advertisers-cuts-out-google/or The Avengers?]]>Jun 8th 2010 3:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/apple-revises-ios-rules-on-outside-advertisers-cuts-out-google/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/apple-revises-ios-rules-on-outside-advertisers-cuts-out-google/
Yes. Apple should take business advice from random commenters on Engadget. Great idea. Should help that struggling market cap and help them finally surpass Microsoft.

/s]]>Jun 8th 2010 3:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/apple-revises-ios-rules-on-outside-advertisers-cuts-out-google/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/apple-revises-ios-rules-on-outside-advertisers-cuts-out-google/Yes, Agreed, but If I remeber well, their business always had this closed model, always betting for the exclusivity of their products and the followers of the Apple cult.
Some of us want to keep out of the Apple Matrix and see Reality just like it is, not the Magical utopia apple tries to $ell us.]]>Jun 8th 2010 3:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/apple-revises-ios-rules-on-outside-advertisers-cuts-out-google/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/apple-revises-ios-rules-on-outside-advertisers-cuts-out-google/
WTF? All these kids on Engadget are tech geniuses.

They all know how to run multi-billion $$ corporations.

From their mom's basement]]>Jun 8th 2010 3:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/apple-revises-ios-rules-on-outside-advertisers-cuts-out-google/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/apple-revises-ios-rules-on-outside-advertisers-cuts-out-google/
Well, if thats the case that I'm going to go sue Ford for not allowing GM to install Onstar in my Ford. ]]>Jun 8th 2010 3:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/apple-revises-ios-rules-on-outside-advertisers-cuts-out-google/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/apple-revises-ios-rules-on-outside-advertisers-cuts-out-google/
Maybe you should look at peeks in terms of progress. When something reaches a climax, it'll fall. And in terms of things like technology in energy. They fall fast. If you look at other companies in the past who used to be huge. They fell faster.

Microsoft sells 2 products basically. They are Windows and Office, both software.
Their hardware division makes REALLY good devices. But it seems Microsoft doesn't care so much for them as their 2 huge software Giants. It doesn't matter if they are bad or not.

THEY OWN 86.14% of the market of Computer OS's
They own 7% in the world of Mobile OS's
They are 2nd in terms of sales in console gaming

Apple has 5.80% in the Computer OS world
the iPhone is only 15% in the world mobile OS

Apple's market cap. is an inflated value of a company who is about design of their product in stead of features first.

Microsoft is lazy. If they actually worked on their computer concepts, they would be top in devices in some places.

But I'm no Windows fan. At all.]]>Jun 8th 2010 3:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/apple-revises-ios-rules-on-outside-advertisers-cuts-out-google/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/apple-revises-ios-rules-on-outside-advertisers-cuts-out-google/
The only friends Apple needs are the media providers, which are attracted by the lucrative eco system that's already making a lot of money.

Google's friends are just doing all the hardware work]]>Jun 8th 2010 3:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/apple-revises-ios-rules-on-outside-advertisers-cuts-out-google/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/apple-revises-ios-rules-on-outside-advertisers-cuts-out-google/
Apple's iPhone 4 parts aren't all Apple made.

that A4 chip was made by someone else with Apple's designers in the loop.
The screen is probably a samsung.
The wireless band is qualcomm probably.
Motherboard is by foxconn.]]>Jun 8th 2010 3:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/apple-revises-ios-rules-on-outside-advertisers-cuts-out-google/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/apple-revises-ios-rules-on-outside-advertisers-cuts-out-google/
Wow...Apple just thumbed their nose at the FTC / Justice.]]>Jun 8th 2010 3:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/apple-revises-ios-rules-on-outside-advertisers-cuts-out-google/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/apple-revises-ios-rules-on-outside-advertisers-cuts-out-google/Jun 8th 2010 3:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/apple-revises-ios-rules-on-outside-advertisers-cuts-out-google/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/apple-revises-ios-rules-on-outside-advertisers-cuts-out-google/Jun 8th 2010 3:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/apple-revises-ios-rules-on-outside-advertisers-cuts-out-google/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/apple-revises-ios-rules-on-outside-advertisers-cuts-out-google/
No Apple is just getting in bed with old media, brick-n-mortar, and government and education institutions.

They want to be the sole technology provider.

This is truly getting to the point of The Empire (old guard) vs. The Republic (rebels).]]>Jun 8th 2010 3:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/apple-revises-ios-rules-on-outside-advertisers-cuts-out-google/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/apple-revises-ios-rules-on-outside-advertisers-cuts-out-google/
Yea but Google partners w/ all those companies that provide the hardware/services in area's that they don't specialize in. I'm sure if it was economical for Google to make its own TV's, Boxes, Chips, & Phones more than half those names you list don't exist in partnerships w/ Google.]]>Jun 8th 2010 3:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/apple-revises-ios-rules-on-outside-advertisers-cuts-out-google/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/apple-revises-ios-rules-on-outside-advertisers-cuts-out-google/I'm pretty sure all advertisement are annoying, but with an apple name on it, it soothes them a little.]]>Jun 8th 2010 3:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/apple-revises-ios-rules-on-outside-advertisers-cuts-out-google/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/apple-revises-ios-rules-on-outside-advertisers-cuts-out-google/
"If *I* think it's crap, but the marketplace thinks it's vastly superior, the only way to resolve this paradox is to assume that the marketplace is profoundly stupid and duped by Apple's svengali-like marketing. Because it couldn't possibly be that I don't have a freaking clue what people want."]]>Jun 8th 2010 3:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/apple-revises-ios-rules-on-outside-advertisers-cuts-out-google/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/apple-revises-ios-rules-on-outside-advertisers-cuts-out-google/
Now, the argument that I haven't heard yet is about what a cell phone manufacturer or mobile OS company's obligation with respect to protecting their users. As far as I can see, android users are exposed in a lot of ways to collection of their personal information. Are we heading to the day when you have to run anti-virus software on your phone? I've seen what happens when facebook doesn't regulate apps and uses our personal info as a commodity.

In other words, while "walled garden" has taken on such a negative connotation, I'm not sure I mind being walled in after seeing all the spyware, adware, viruses and scams out there. My prediction is that we're less than a year from a major android virus or spyware that exploits the platform's openness. Now, that may be worth the risk for some people but if I have to start doing virus and adware removal on my entire family's cell phones, I'm going to scream. ]]>Jun 8th 2010 3:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/apple-revises-ios-rules-on-outside-advertisers-cuts-out-google/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/apple-revises-ios-rules-on-outside-advertisers-cuts-out-google/
Again...what are you doing online? You should be a billionaire business consultant by now.

/s]]>Jun 8th 2010 3:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/apple-revises-ios-rules-on-outside-advertisers-cuts-out-google/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/apple-revises-ios-rules-on-outside-advertisers-cuts-out-google/
http://hungrybeast.abc.net.au/stories/beast-file-google]]>Jun 8th 2010 4:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/apple-revises-ios-rules-on-outside-advertisers-cuts-out-google/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/apple-revises-ios-rules-on-outside-advertisers-cuts-out-google/
We don't HAVE to be expert business-men to know what we want and what we don't, and I'll say it again: those of us that are complaining DON'T want this.]]>Jun 8th 2010 4:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/apple-revises-ios-rules-on-outside-advertisers-cuts-out-google/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/apple-revises-ios-rules-on-outside-advertisers-cuts-out-google/
Oh thanks *rolls eyes*

Sarcasm aside, you don't need to be a CEO of a company to understand how a company should act.]]>Jun 8th 2010 4:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/apple-revises-ios-rules-on-outside-advertisers-cuts-out-google/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/apple-revises-ios-rules-on-outside-advertisers-cuts-out-google/
But you people complain about anything Apple does, even though you all claim not to own, like, or want to buy Apple products.

Funny that.]]>Jun 8th 2010 4:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/apple-revises-ios-rules-on-outside-advertisers-cuts-out-google/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/apple-revises-ios-rules-on-outside-advertisers-cuts-out-google/
Stop pretending like everybody that has an opinion has to have some kind of allegiance or emotional, hormonal attachment to one company or another. Just because *some* of us are that primitive (*cough*), doesn't mean we all are.]]>Jun 8th 2010 4:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/apple-revises-ios-rules-on-outside-advertisers-cuts-out-google/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/apple-revises-ios-rules-on-outside-advertisers-cuts-out-google/Jun 8th 2010 4:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/apple-revises-ios-rules-on-outside-advertisers-cuts-out-google/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/apple-revises-ios-rules-on-outside-advertisers-cuts-out-google/
...and...yeah, thought so.

Apple does what they do, because people buy their products regardless. You think real people out there with real lives give a flying fuck if a few aps out of the thousands available get denied over what ad format they use? Good god..."Walled garden! Closed Eco-system! Apple is DOOMED!". People have been saying the same horseshit for a decade now, while Apple has been making money hand over fist. The grumbling from a few dozen self-absorbed tech nerds is meaningless. ]]>Jun 8th 2010 4:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/apple-revises-ios-rules-on-outside-advertisers-cuts-out-google/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/apple-revises-ios-rules-on-outside-advertisers-cuts-out-google/
Also, closed systems aren't inherently more secure; it's all about the vendor keeping up with security fixes.]]>Jun 8th 2010 4:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/apple-revises-ios-rules-on-outside-advertisers-cuts-out-google/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/apple-revises-ios-rules-on-outside-advertisers-cuts-out-google/
And if Apple was doing these things because that's the ONLY way to run a business, then EVERY company would be doing these things and we wouldn't have room to complain.

Except it ISN'T the only way to run a business. There are countless ways to run businesses. The very reason we complain is because other businesses don't run in the same manner and we prefer their method of running. One company that comes straight to mind: Dyson (yeah, bet you didn't see THAT one coming!).]]>Jun 8th 2010 4:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/apple-revises-ios-rules-on-outside-advertisers-cuts-out-google/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/apple-revises-ios-rules-on-outside-advertisers-cuts-out-google/Jun 8th 2010 4:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/apple-revises-ios-rules-on-outside-advertisers-cuts-out-google/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/apple-revises-ios-rules-on-outside-advertisers-cuts-out-google/
Apple's hardware and software engineering teams - Unmatched in innovation and design

Apple's ecosystem & app guideline decisions - unmatched in their shortsightedness, greediness, and communistic ideals.

The former is evoking a "WANT" reaction across the world... the latter is riding that wave FOR NOW, but ultimately they are going to need to make some fundamental decisions (set us free from iTunes) or it's going to drag their deck of cards down.

*Disclaimer - Palm Pre user since launch, Win7 user since Beta, Engineer and self-professed Anti-Apple. Not a single one of you can honestly look at the iPhone4 and not BEG for that hardware to be matched across mobile platforms. Hopefully the catchup cycle will be shorter (especially for HP-Palm :D ) THAT hardware w/ WebOS would be insta-WIN]]>Jun 8th 2010 4:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/apple-revises-ios-rules-on-outside-advertisers-cuts-out-google/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/apple-revises-ios-rules-on-outside-advertisers-cuts-out-google/Apple designed the iPhone period.
Making something is different than designing it. No tech company manufactures all of the components that go into the products they design.
That is why other companies can use the same (or better) components as the iPhone, and still end up with inferior products.

]]>Jun 8th 2010 4:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/apple-revises-ios-rules-on-outside-advertisers-cuts-out-google/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/apple-revises-ios-rules-on-outside-advertisers-cuts-out-google/Jun 8th 2010 4:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/apple-revises-ios-rules-on-outside-advertisers-cuts-out-google/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/apple-revises-ios-rules-on-outside-advertisers-cuts-out-google/Marketplace > Search "Bing" > Download widget.]]>Jun 8th 2010 5:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/apple-revises-ios-rules-on-outside-advertisers-cuts-out-google/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/apple-revises-ios-rules-on-outside-advertisers-cuts-out-google/Jun 8th 2010 5:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/apple-revises-ios-rules-on-outside-advertisers-cuts-out-google/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/apple-revises-ios-rules-on-outside-advertisers-cuts-out-google/
You seem to be confusing open access versus security. In fact your belief that pay-walled = secure is scary because the two aren't even related. The only thing the pay-walled system means is that you won't know about the vulnerabilities because no one can disclose them but the bad guys due to contract provisions. Apples pay-wall system can't and doesn't block vulnerabilities. In fact, the Apple system could be far less secure if it's design isn't focused on security. It's conceivable that a developer could submit an application with one stated purpose and bury an exploit in the code and Apple would never catch it because I sincerely doubt they review every line of code. If the developer doesn't disclose a function of the software Apple wouldn't know it exists, they rely almost entirely on the developers disclosing everything, and that's a far more dangerous situation because it's security theater, not real security. Users believe that this pay-wall system makes them more secure (like you) but don't realize that it means nothing in regard to security.]]>Jun 8th 2010 5:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/apple-revises-ios-rules-on-outside-advertisers-cuts-out-google/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/apple-revises-ios-rules-on-outside-advertisers-cuts-out-google/
So what you are saying is because none of us here understand how to run a multi-billion dollar company, we should all just agree with it?

God, people are dumb. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to understand business moves after they are made. It doesn't take a brilliant mind to understand the actions of a billion dollar corporation. It takes a brilliant mind to MAKE those actions and do well with it.

Stop acting like business models are some magical mystical genius plans that no one can understand besides its creators. Just because YOU don't understand it, doesn't mean nobody else does.

So now shut up.]]>Jun 8th 2010 5:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/apple-revises-ios-rules-on-outside-advertisers-cuts-out-google/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/apple-revises-ios-rules-on-outside-advertisers-cuts-out-google/Jun 8th 2010 5:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/apple-revises-ios-rules-on-outside-advertisers-cuts-out-google/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/apple-revises-ios-rules-on-outside-advertisers-cuts-out-google/
Considering the vast majority of the comments here don't even pertain to what this is actually about, nor display any sort of comprehension about the topic at hand, other than a vague interpretation of the article title...yeah, I'd say not many here know how to run a company. Or know their ass from a hole in the ground.

]]>Jun 8th 2010 5:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/apple-revises-ios-rules-on-outside-advertisers-cuts-out-google/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/apple-revises-ios-rules-on-outside-advertisers-cuts-out-google/The link you gave says: "This content is only viewable from Australia"
I found one similar in youtube.
Its the same?:
The Beast File: Google ('HUNGRY BEAST', ABC TV)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7yfV6RzE30
It is interesting and a little scary.]]>Jun 8th 2010 5:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/apple-revises-ios-rules-on-outside-advertisers-cuts-out-google/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/apple-revises-ios-rules-on-outside-advertisers-cuts-out-google/I know I can run a business model pretty well considering mines working great but besides that,

Just the act of calling someone ignorant without more than a comments worth of information ignorant in itself.

But as I said, doesn't take a genius to understand whats going on right now.

And btw,

"Maybe you should look at peeks in terms of progress. When something reaches a climax, it'll fall. And in terms of things like technology in energy. They fall fast. If you look at other companies in the past who used to be huge. They fell faster.

Microsoft sells 2 products basically. They are Windows and Office, both software.
Their hardware division makes REALLY good devices. But it seems Microsoft doesn't care so much for them as their 2 huge software Giants. It doesn't matter if they are bad or not.

THEY OWN 86.14% of the market of Computer OS's
They own 7% in the world of Mobile OS's
They are 2nd in terms of sales in console gaming

Apple has 5.80% in the Computer OS world
the iPhone is only 15% in the world mobile OS

Apple's market cap. is an inflated value of a company who is about design of their product in stead of features first.

Microsoft is lazy. If they actually worked on their computer concepts, they would be top in devices in some places.

But I'm no Windows fan. At all."

was probably the most intelligent thing stated in this whole thread. (but idk, I never make it past the second page)]]>Jun 8th 2010 5:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/apple-revises-ios-rules-on-outside-advertisers-cuts-out-google/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/apple-revises-ios-rules-on-outside-advertisers-cuts-out-google/
So, in your naive little world where you believe everything anyone tells you:
Only the Pope understands ethics;
Only the most athletic person in the world understands fitness;
Only clothe manufacturers have any taste in style;
Only massive food chains have any understanding of health and healthy eating;
Only Bill Gates can understand computers and software development;
Only Facebook executives understand relationships;
[insert more completely false and plain-as-day stupid assumptions pertaining to this rule].]]>Jun 8th 2010 5:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/apple-revises-ios-rules-on-outside-advertisers-cuts-out-google/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/apple-revises-ios-rules-on-outside-advertisers-cuts-out-google/Steve Jobs is GOD and thou shalt not question GOD. Smite thee he will]]>Jun 8th 2010 5:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/apple-revises-ios-rules-on-outside-advertisers-cuts-out-google/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/apple-revises-ios-rules-on-outside-advertisers-cuts-out-google/
Just get it over with already. You guys are pissed because Apple is killing it in the market and they don't care about the tech nerd. It's that simple. Stop the temper tantrums and move on.

Are you really picking a fight because you want more ads from more companies. You are never going to own an Apple product anyway so whats all the fuss about?]]>Jun 8th 2010 5:42PM