http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/skype-eager-to-work-with-apple-facetime-pretty-much-anyone-else/ Engadget Comments for http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/skype-eager-to-work-with-apple-facetime-pretty-much-anyone-else/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/skype-eager-to-work-with-apple-facetime-pretty-much-anyone-else/Jun 8th 2010 6:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/skype-eager-to-work-with-apple-facetime-pretty-much-anyone-else/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/skype-eager-to-work-with-apple-facetime-pretty-much-anyone-else/why would you buy a separate iphone 4 for your hand? ]]>Jun 8th 2010 6:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/skype-eager-to-work-with-apple-facetime-pretty-much-anyone-else/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/skype-eager-to-work-with-apple-facetime-pretty-much-anyone-else/Jun 8th 2010 6:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/skype-eager-to-work-with-apple-facetime-pretty-much-anyone-else/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/skype-eager-to-work-with-apple-facetime-pretty-much-anyone-else/Jun 8th 2010 6:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/skype-eager-to-work-with-apple-facetime-pretty-much-anyone-else/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/skype-eager-to-work-with-apple-facetime-pretty-much-anyone-else/Jun 8th 2010 6:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/skype-eager-to-work-with-apple-facetime-pretty-much-anyone-else/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/skype-eager-to-work-with-apple-facetime-pretty-much-anyone-else/Jun 8th 2010 6:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/skype-eager-to-work-with-apple-facetime-pretty-much-anyone-else/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/skype-eager-to-work-with-apple-facetime-pretty-much-anyone-else/:)]]>Jun 8th 2010 6:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/skype-eager-to-work-with-apple-facetime-pretty-much-anyone-else/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/skype-eager-to-work-with-apple-facetime-pretty-much-anyone-else/
Skype ain't going to be working with no one. Keep on sucking on that Big Red, Skype...]]>Jun 8th 2010 6:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/skype-eager-to-work-with-apple-facetime-pretty-much-anyone-else/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/skype-eager-to-work-with-apple-facetime-pretty-much-anyone-else/He best be careful where he points it or it could end up on his face--BIG--time.]]>Jun 8th 2010 7:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/skype-eager-to-work-with-apple-facetime-pretty-much-anyone-else/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/skype-eager-to-work-with-apple-facetime-pretty-much-anyone-else/
maybe i'll get to see her too.. that is, if she exists beyond your REM phase at night

REM=Rapid Ejaculate Manufacture]]>Jun 8th 2010 7:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/skype-eager-to-work-with-apple-facetime-pretty-much-anyone-else/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/skype-eager-to-work-with-apple-facetime-pretty-much-anyone-else/Jun 8th 2010 7:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/skype-eager-to-work-with-apple-facetime-pretty-much-anyone-else/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/skype-eager-to-work-with-apple-facetime-pretty-much-anyone-else/Jun 8th 2010 7:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/skype-eager-to-work-with-apple-facetime-pretty-much-anyone-else/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/skype-eager-to-work-with-apple-facetime-pretty-much-anyone-else/
Guess you didn't see the part of the Keynote where Steve Jobs explained that FaceTime is open source. Also, one of the things holding back video chat is the fact that you have to have an account to make it work. FaceTime doesn't require you to have a separate account to use it.

So the fact that there is no need for a separate account, coupled with the open source nature of the app, tells me that Apple has a good chance of succeeding with FaceTime.

]]>Jun 8th 2010 8:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/skype-eager-to-work-with-apple-facetime-pretty-much-anyone-else/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/skype-eager-to-work-with-apple-facetime-pretty-much-anyone-else/
Also, it's VGA res, and real-time, so I wonder if there's a image stabilizer built-in, cause it will be nothing like those slick Mendes ads if the stabilizer is crap and if the phone is improperly weighed such that video calls are straining.]]>Jun 8th 2010 8:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/skype-eager-to-work-with-apple-facetime-pretty-much-anyone-else/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/skype-eager-to-work-with-apple-facetime-pretty-much-anyone-else/
In Vodafone, if I want to video call anyone with my 5800 I just have to dial his/her number and select video call..

Honestly, I cannot understand how can you be so clueless about this, that is probably why you are lauding Facetime as the greatest thing ever..]]>Jun 8th 2010 8:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/skype-eager-to-work-with-apple-facetime-pretty-much-anyone-else/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/skype-eager-to-work-with-apple-facetime-pretty-much-anyone-else/Thank god for that!
We don't need people seeing their 'gf naked wheneva [they] want yum yum!!' in public!]]>Jun 8th 2010 8:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/skype-eager-to-work-with-apple-facetime-pretty-much-anyone-else/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/skype-eager-to-work-with-apple-facetime-pretty-much-anyone-else/You know they would have allowed it, but with ATT new 2g plan, your data would vanish away in like a week. Then you would end up blaming apple for it....]]>Jun 8th 2010 9:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/skype-eager-to-work-with-apple-facetime-pretty-much-anyone-else/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/skype-eager-to-work-with-apple-facetime-pretty-much-anyone-else/2 gb for 25$ plan. Not to be confused with network sorry]]>Jun 8th 2010 9:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/skype-eager-to-work-with-apple-facetime-pretty-much-anyone-else/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/skype-eager-to-work-with-apple-facetime-pretty-much-anyone-else/Jun 8th 2010 11:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/skype-eager-to-work-with-apple-facetime-pretty-much-anyone-else/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/skype-eager-to-work-with-apple-facetime-pretty-much-anyone-else/
You "just dial their number" ... the number that they have, because they have an *account* (with Vodaphone or some other telco). No account, no number, no videocalling.

FaceTime does not require an account with anyone - a web service, a telco, anyone. No network setup, no account.

The way Facetime works, I'd just start a Facetime-compatible app on my phone or laptop or desktop or whatever, and start videocalling. In that regard, it is different than any other videophone solution I've ever heard about.

Not that I will be doing much videocalling, I believe it is something people will only do occasionally rather than regularly.]]>Jun 8th 2010 11:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/skype-eager-to-work-with-apple-facetime-pretty-much-anyone-else/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/skype-eager-to-work-with-apple-facetime-pretty-much-anyone-else/Jun 9th 2010 1:28AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/skype-eager-to-work-with-apple-facetime-pretty-much-anyone-else/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/skype-eager-to-work-with-apple-facetime-pretty-much-anyone-else/Jun 9th 2010 1:32AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/skype-eager-to-work-with-apple-facetime-pretty-much-anyone-else/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/skype-eager-to-work-with-apple-facetime-pretty-much-anyone-else/In Europe it's pretty common to have a Skype account so that's not a problem, but I think (as others) that Skype won't need to work with Apple on this. FaceTime will be open and I am sure the front facing camera can be accessed in the same way everything can be accessed by the developers, so building in their own flavour of video chat will not be a problem for Skype.]]>Jun 9th 2010 3:17AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/skype-eager-to-work-with-apple-facetime-pretty-much-anyone-else/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/skype-eager-to-work-with-apple-facetime-pretty-much-anyone-else/Jun 9th 2010 8:59AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/skype-eager-to-work-with-apple-facetime-pretty-much-anyone-else/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/skype-eager-to-work-with-apple-facetime-pretty-much-anyone-else/there are plenty of countries that have pipes big enough to handle video chat - European countries for a start, don't limit what will happen just because your country can't handle it. ]]>Jun 9th 2010 4:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/skype-eager-to-work-with-apple-facetime-pretty-much-anyone-else/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/skype-eager-to-work-with-apple-facetime-pretty-much-anyone-else/Jun 8th 2010 6:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/skype-eager-to-work-with-apple-facetime-pretty-much-anyone-else/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/skype-eager-to-work-with-apple-facetime-pretty-much-anyone-else/
yah i dont get it, i swear phones have had video chatting since forever... what special about facetime?? It has a catchy name?]]>Jun 8th 2010 7:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/skype-eager-to-work-with-apple-facetime-pretty-much-anyone-else/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/skype-eager-to-work-with-apple-facetime-pretty-much-anyone-else/My Nokia N95 can do Skype video calling through two different apps (Skype and fring) on WiFi and I'm pretty sure 3G (but I've never tried cause I don't have a data plan). I don't understand why when there's a feature that the iPhone gets, the whole world jumps up like it's something revolutionary. This is why I don't buy into the iPhone hype.]]>Jun 8th 2010 7:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/skype-eager-to-work-with-apple-facetime-pretty-much-anyone-else/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/skype-eager-to-work-with-apple-facetime-pretty-much-anyone-else/Jun 8th 2010 7:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/skype-eager-to-work-with-apple-facetime-pretty-much-anyone-else/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/skype-eager-to-work-with-apple-facetime-pretty-much-anyone-else/
Facetime being OPEN is the answer to making Facetime "usable". It's not just Skype. Facetime will work with anybody who wants to incorporate it, and that includes Qik, in case that hadn't crossed your mind yet.]]>Jun 8th 2010 7:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/skype-eager-to-work-with-apple-facetime-pretty-much-anyone-else/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/skype-eager-to-work-with-apple-facetime-pretty-much-anyone-else/
Tell me, how many people with Nokia smartphones are actually using video chat? Nokia has always been great for marketing feature lists but it's quantity over quality. Anybody can tender electronic components but wrapping a decent UI around it is what takes the effort. Why do so many so called savvy tech users still not grasp this.

If Apple develop an open standard for video, throws it out there, and in the meantime talks with telcos about allowing it over 3G, how is that just "hype". I like Apple's gear but I'm only "excited" for where this will lead and not it's current state. Just be patient on this feature for a few months and have some vision.

So long as Apple included an API for the front camera (did they, anyone?) then Skype will make use of it soon. Personally I prefer this to the locked down nature of traditional cellphone video chat where they charge you through the nose (clue there why nobody bothers to use it, just like MMS). At least you can use this over the net for free.

Talking of MMS. That's another locked down feature they charge you to the hilt to use. Hardly anybody uses it and that's probably why Apple was so-so about it. Most use email these days anyway. Apple are a forward thinking company which is why they made Visual Voicemail before appeasing with dying features like MMS.

Yes Apple were late with copy/paste. I blasted them about it too. But at least they implement it decently. With older UI's using a stylus and/or menus it's much easier to do copy/paste. Doing it well without those elements on a touch UI is much harder. As Windows Phone 7 demonstrates because they'll be launching without it at first too.]]>Jun 8th 2010 7:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/skype-eager-to-work-with-apple-facetime-pretty-much-anyone-else/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/skype-eager-to-work-with-apple-facetime-pretty-much-anyone-else/
I agree with most of what you said but come one, people don't use MMS because it costs so much. MMS has been included with AT&T's Messaging (which includes SMS, MMS, and IM) plans for at least three years now. I'm pretty sure the other carriers do the same. I don't know anyone who doesn't send and receive pictures from their phone unless it just isn't capable. ]]>Jun 8th 2010 7:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/skype-eager-to-work-with-apple-facetime-pretty-much-anyone-else/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/skype-eager-to-work-with-apple-facetime-pretty-much-anyone-else/
"Nokia has always been great for marketing feature lists but it's quantity over quality"

Tell me about it... the so called "GPS" on the Nokia C5 barely works at all....]]>Jun 8th 2010 8:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/skype-eager-to-work-with-apple-facetime-pretty-much-anyone-else/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/skype-eager-to-work-with-apple-facetime-pretty-much-anyone-else/The "so-called" GPS in my Nokia N95 works amazingly well, and took me from Toronto to New York without a problem. No data fees to pay when I crossed the border.

Also, just because a standardised feature isn't used by the majority of consumers doesn't mean you should forget about it (in reference to MMS).]]>Jun 8th 2010 8:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/skype-eager-to-work-with-apple-facetime-pretty-much-anyone-else/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/skype-eager-to-work-with-apple-facetime-pretty-much-anyone-else/
Yup - apple seems to fail in full feature-set comparisons - both with its hardware and software. Even though Apple fails at the feature-set war, they continue to win customers. Not to beat a dead horse here but for apple its about the user experience and yes they still win that one - unless you're more of a hacker-techy.

The new iPhone looks like an awesome piece of hardware. Of course i will need to use it to know - but it seems like a marvelously solid and splendidly engineered product. And as far as features go it may actually be the best in the industry. The iOS is another story though.]]>Jun 8th 2010 8:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/skype-eager-to-work-with-apple-facetime-pretty-much-anyone-else/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/skype-eager-to-work-with-apple-facetime-pretty-much-anyone-else/Jun 9th 2010 1:10AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/skype-eager-to-work-with-apple-facetime-pretty-much-anyone-else/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/skype-eager-to-work-with-apple-facetime-pretty-much-anyone-else/Jun 9th 2010 1:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/skype-eager-to-work-with-apple-facetime-pretty-much-anyone-else/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/skype-eager-to-work-with-apple-facetime-pretty-much-anyone-else/]]>Jun 9th 2010 4:02AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/skype-eager-to-work-with-apple-facetime-pretty-much-anyone-else/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/skype-eager-to-work-with-apple-facetime-pretty-much-anyone-else/
Mms is dead for most. I don't even have it set up.]]>Jun 9th 2010 6:13AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/skype-eager-to-work-with-apple-facetime-pretty-much-anyone-else/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/skype-eager-to-work-with-apple-facetime-pretty-much-anyone-else/Jun 9th 2010 7:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/skype-eager-to-work-with-apple-facetime-pretty-much-anyone-else/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/skype-eager-to-work-with-apple-facetime-pretty-much-anyone-else/
Or nokia's that have had it for years?]]>Jun 8th 2010 6:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/skype-eager-to-work-with-apple-facetime-pretty-much-anyone-else/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/skype-eager-to-work-with-apple-facetime-pretty-much-anyone-else/
FaceTime is an open standard so if Google feels brave enough to adopt it then anyone can call any one. I guess now we'll really see if Google real is open standards lead.]]>Jun 8th 2010 6:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/skype-eager-to-work-with-apple-facetime-pretty-much-anyone-else/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/skype-eager-to-work-with-apple-facetime-pretty-much-anyone-else/Jun 8th 2010 6:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/skype-eager-to-work-with-apple-facetime-pretty-much-anyone-else/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/skype-eager-to-work-with-apple-facetime-pretty-much-anyone-else/Jun 8th 2010 6:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/skype-eager-to-work-with-apple-facetime-pretty-much-anyone-else/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/skype-eager-to-work-with-apple-facetime-pretty-much-anyone-else/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MPEG_LA). That's the opposite of an Open Standard, despite what His Steveness might have used as a marketing bullet point.

Thus no one is likely to develop a free, legal FaceTime-compatible app for other platforms, since they'd lose money in the process. Steve knows this, but pretends not to because it's part of his anti-Flash campaign, too.]]>Jun 8th 2010 7:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/skype-eager-to-work-with-apple-facetime-pretty-much-anyone-else/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/skype-eager-to-work-with-apple-facetime-pretty-much-anyone-else/
That's because google doesn't care about the end users experience. All that matters to them is getting their os on as many devices as they can so they can make their money from advertising. android is the greatest undercover ad information gathering ploy in history and you drones are sucking it up all because you guys are so cool and not mainstream and it's not made by the "evil" Apple. ]]>Jun 8th 2010 7:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/skype-eager-to-work-with-apple-facetime-pretty-much-anyone-else/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/skype-eager-to-work-with-apple-facetime-pretty-much-anyone-else/
QFT.]]>Jun 8th 2010 7:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/skype-eager-to-work-with-apple-facetime-pretty-much-anyone-else/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/skype-eager-to-work-with-apple-facetime-pretty-much-anyone-else/Jun 8th 2010 7:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/skype-eager-to-work-with-apple-facetime-pretty-much-anyone-else/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/skype-eager-to-work-with-apple-facetime-pretty-much-anyone-else/
You obviously don't understand what open means. Open means anybody can use it - REGARDLESS if there is a licensing fee or not. Open does not mean free, free does not mean open. The flash plug-in is free, and it's 100% closed.

Furthermore, you appear to be ignoring all the products out there that are free to end users that incorporate not only H.264 but all kind of other varieties of MPEG compression that are under licensing fees. This is absolutely a non-issue. If anybody wants to develop something to work with facetime, they will. And believe me, lots of developers are going to want to get in on this.]]>Jun 8th 2010 7:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/skype-eager-to-work-with-apple-facetime-pretty-much-anyone-else/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/skype-eager-to-work-with-apple-facetime-pretty-much-anyone-else/Jun 8th 2010 9:39PM