http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/windows-7-service-pack-1-public-beta-due-next-month/ Engadget Comments for Windows 7 Service Pack 1 public beta due next month http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/windows-7-service-pack-1-public-beta-due-next-month/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/windows-7-service-pack-1-public-beta-due-next-month/Jun 8th 2010 12:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/windows-7-service-pack-1-public-beta-due-next-month/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/windows-7-service-pack-1-public-beta-due-next-month/Jun 8th 2010 12:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/windows-7-service-pack-1-public-beta-due-next-month/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/windows-7-service-pack-1-public-beta-due-next-month/
This is great for IT administrators. It makes it easier to test out sp1 rather than push out all of the updates and testing them out separately. ]]>Jun 8th 2010 1:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/windows-7-service-pack-1-public-beta-due-next-month/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/windows-7-service-pack-1-public-beta-due-next-month/
What new features do you need? We've become eager to have "something" new no matter what even when the thing we have works and works well. It's a major release OS...I doubt they're going to suddenly make huge UI over hauls or throw in beta applications just when their reputation for rock solid stable OSs is just starting to come back.]]>Jun 8th 2010 1:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/windows-7-service-pack-1-public-beta-due-next-month/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/windows-7-service-pack-1-public-beta-due-next-month/Jun 8th 2010 1:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/windows-7-service-pack-1-public-beta-due-next-month/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/windows-7-service-pack-1-public-beta-due-next-month/
If you are using and update server it's not that hard to create a separate test group of computers to deploy updates too a week or month before you approve the update for everyone else. Thats what we do anyway.]]>Jun 8th 2010 1:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/windows-7-service-pack-1-public-beta-due-next-month/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/windows-7-service-pack-1-public-beta-due-next-month/Jun 8th 2010 5:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/windows-7-service-pack-1-public-beta-due-next-month/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/windows-7-service-pack-1-public-beta-due-next-month/
W/ Vista, it was needed as it just didn't feel finished at launch.

W/ Windows 7 though, I mean we already got multitouch, new media center, TRIM and SSD optimizations and everything from the get-go, and there haven't been any hardware breakthrus lately requiring big OS changes.]]>Jun 8th 2010 8:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/windows-7-service-pack-1-public-beta-due-next-month/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/windows-7-service-pack-1-public-beta-due-next-month/
It's bad practice to test a patch on the fleet only to find that it kills the system until you can remove/repair the patch.]]>Jun 10th 2010 3:48AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/windows-7-service-pack-1-public-beta-due-next-month/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/windows-7-service-pack-1-public-beta-due-next-month/Jun 8th 2010 12:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/windows-7-service-pack-1-public-beta-due-next-month/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/windows-7-service-pack-1-public-beta-due-next-month/I'd settle on two more features that should have been in Windows Explorer since the beginning of time...WITHOUT having to download 3rd party software. This stuff should be stock within Windows...period.

1) The ability to print out directory structures with whatever details you wish in details view - recursively through subfolders too like Karen's Directory Printer (http://www.karenware.com/powertools/ptdirprn.asp).
2) The ability to rename things en masse kind of like the open source Métamorphose program (awesome by the way and free http://file-folder-ren.sourceforge.net/).]]>Jun 8th 2010 3:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/windows-7-service-pack-1-public-beta-due-next-month/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/windows-7-service-pack-1-public-beta-due-next-month/Jun 8th 2010 12:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/windows-7-service-pack-1-public-beta-due-next-month/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/windows-7-service-pack-1-public-beta-due-next-month/Jun 8th 2010 12:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/windows-7-service-pack-1-public-beta-due-next-month/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/windows-7-service-pack-1-public-beta-due-next-month/
p.s. - engaget.com/exclude/apple = my best friend]]>Jun 8th 2010 12:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/windows-7-service-pack-1-public-beta-due-next-month/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/windows-7-service-pack-1-public-beta-due-next-month/
I think there's something wrong with your eyesight.]]>Jun 8th 2010 1:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/windows-7-service-pack-1-public-beta-due-next-month/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/windows-7-service-pack-1-public-beta-due-next-month/Jun 8th 2010 6:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/windows-7-service-pack-1-public-beta-due-next-month/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/windows-7-service-pack-1-public-beta-due-next-month/Jun 8th 2010 12:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/windows-7-service-pack-1-public-beta-due-next-month/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/windows-7-service-pack-1-public-beta-due-next-month/Jun 8th 2010 12:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/windows-7-service-pack-1-public-beta-due-next-month/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/windows-7-service-pack-1-public-beta-due-next-month/
Win7 doesn't support USB 3.0? I thought it did. What type of SSD optimization does Win7 need? I thought that TRIM support and better controllers on the drive itself fixed that? And I'm pretty sure the 2TB limit is a problem with BIOS and the motherboard, not specifically a Windows issue.

This is probably the first version of Windows where a Service Pack seems absolutely unnecessary. I'm hoping more corporations and businesses adopt Win7 because there is nothing worse than using XP after using 7. I need my Aero Snap and Start Menu search.]]>Jun 8th 2010 1:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/windows-7-service-pack-1-public-beta-due-next-month/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/windows-7-service-pack-1-public-beta-due-next-month/Jun 8th 2010 1:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/windows-7-service-pack-1-public-beta-due-next-month/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/windows-7-service-pack-1-public-beta-due-next-month/
USB 3: Just install the controller drivers, and you're set.
SSD: It's been there since day 1. Windows 7 detects SSD drives, and automatically disables defrag and SuperFetch, and sends TRIM commands to the drive.
2TB+ hard drive: All 64-bit Windows support Long LBA. Windows Vista/7 support GPT partition tables natively, and can boot from GPT disks on an EFI system. (BIOS systems can use GPT disks as data drives though).]]>Jun 8th 2010 1:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/windows-7-service-pack-1-public-beta-due-next-month/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/windows-7-service-pack-1-public-beta-due-next-month/
Don't forget that for TRIM support you also need the appropriate AHCI drivers for your motherboard controller. For example, Intel's ICH series chipsets require AHCI driver 9.6 or later, which is still somewhat recent. I recently ordered some Dell workstations with SSDs and they came equipped with 9.5, which meant that TRIM would have been unavailable even though the device supported it.]]>Jun 8th 2010 2:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/windows-7-service-pack-1-public-beta-due-next-month/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/windows-7-service-pack-1-public-beta-due-next-month/
The 2TB file size limit has been discussed before. It's possible to go larger but it requires non-standard cluster sizes, which can cause other problems with various applications. Otherwise, as others have indicated you can format it GPT rather than MBR if you just need it as a data drive, or if you have an EFI-enabled system you can boot off of it. This is actually a very informative read:

http://carltonbale.com/how-to-break-the-2tb-2-terabyte-file-system-limit]]>Jun 8th 2010 2:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/windows-7-service-pack-1-public-beta-due-next-month/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/windows-7-service-pack-1-public-beta-due-next-month/]]>Jun 8th 2010 12:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/windows-7-service-pack-1-public-beta-due-next-month/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/windows-7-service-pack-1-public-beta-due-next-month/Jun 8th 2010 1:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/windows-7-service-pack-1-public-beta-due-next-month/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/windows-7-service-pack-1-public-beta-due-next-month/
Mine has been slowing down recently since I installed it in the Autumn...seems to be paging to disk a lot more than it used to.]]>Jun 8th 2010 2:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/windows-7-service-pack-1-public-beta-due-next-month/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/windows-7-service-pack-1-public-beta-due-next-month/Suggestion: Defrag disk...at least analyze it to see if it will help. Though my Windows was scheduled to do this on its own, it does it at 1 AM on a Wednesday. Typically my machine is off at that time. Check it out anyway...]]>Jun 8th 2010 3:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/windows-7-service-pack-1-public-beta-due-next-month/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/windows-7-service-pack-1-public-beta-due-next-month/
Do you use Chrome? Whenever my hard disk is making noise, it's usually chrome's fault.]]>Jun 9th 2010 5:25AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/windows-7-service-pack-1-public-beta-due-next-month/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/windows-7-service-pack-1-public-beta-due-next-month/
Do you use Chrome? Whenever my hard disk is making noise, it's usually chrome's fault.]]>Jun 9th 2010 5:25AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/windows-7-service-pack-1-public-beta-due-next-month/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/windows-7-service-pack-1-public-beta-due-next-month/
Do you use Chrome? Whenever my hard disk is making noise, it's usually chrome's fault.]]>Jun 9th 2010 5:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/windows-7-service-pack-1-public-beta-due-next-month/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/windows-7-service-pack-1-public-beta-due-next-month/Another important thing to note is Service Packs include a rollup of all released mandatory Windows Updates, so it's good for security and usability to have a new version with built-in fixes and the like, without having to spend (admittantly not too much time) doing it yourself. I built a new Windows 7 machine and I was done in two WU cycles, unlike Vista which took about seven or so to get to SP2.]]>Jun 8th 2010 12:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/windows-7-service-pack-1-public-beta-due-next-month/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/windows-7-service-pack-1-public-beta-due-next-month/Jun 8th 2010 12:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/windows-7-service-pack-1-public-beta-due-next-month/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/windows-7-service-pack-1-public-beta-due-next-month/Jun 8th 2010 12:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/windows-7-service-pack-1-public-beta-due-next-month/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/windows-7-service-pack-1-public-beta-due-next-month/Jun 8th 2010 1:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/windows-7-service-pack-1-public-beta-due-next-month/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/windows-7-service-pack-1-public-beta-due-next-month/Jun 8th 2010 1:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/windows-7-service-pack-1-public-beta-due-next-month/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/windows-7-service-pack-1-public-beta-due-next-month/Jun 8th 2010 1:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/windows-7-service-pack-1-public-beta-due-next-month/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/windows-7-service-pack-1-public-beta-due-next-month/Jun 8th 2010 1:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/windows-7-service-pack-1-public-beta-due-next-month/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/windows-7-service-pack-1-public-beta-due-next-month/Jun 8th 2010 1:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/windows-7-service-pack-1-public-beta-due-next-month/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/windows-7-service-pack-1-public-beta-due-next-month/Jun 8th 2010 4:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/windows-7-service-pack-1-public-beta-due-next-month/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/windows-7-service-pack-1-public-beta-due-next-month/
Things that would be nice

1 - I'd hope they add more control over the start menu. It would be great to click on Start and be able to go to all programs without having to click on all programs.

2 - on some systems it doesn't sleep properly - although this may be a bios issue requiring firmware that doesn't exist yet. Still it seems much more reliable than sleeping on XP or nasty ol' Vista. I would say only about 1% of the systems I support have that issue and those are brand new systems so hopefully this is in the works by MS or the manufacturers.

3 BRING BACK right click for network properties - too many clicks away unless you make shortcuts.

4 Make a default desktop icon for a gui IPCONFIG - it would make supporting my end users much easier - go the extra step and have it give both NAT and Public IP address of the computer!

5 Give a choice for the show desktop icon. You can create an icon for the left hand side but why not give it as an option for those who have clicked on the left hand side for a decade or so?

6. Set the default folder view so that it shows the menu, full path, extensions and so many things you'll need for supporting remote users.

7. Don't bother showing IE64 at the root of the programs menu, same with XPS and other junk most end users will never need.

8. Make a default icon for comuter, network properties and IE on the desktop - yes you can add them however it would be nice if I didn't have to do so much customizing for my clients and so many calls from them on how to do it on their home computers since they use those icons so often.

9. Give an option for customizing UAC on specfic shortcuts or apps so you can leave the level with some protection but not get prompted for some apps which will always need more access than others such as VNC.

10 - Last but not least, FIX THE CRASHES IN INTERNET EXPLORER - sure it could be flash or java causing the crashes - I really don't care - hire someone to do nothing but fix the bugs in their programs with how it interacts with yours. (Sure some troll is going to say IE doesn't crash for them - they brows MSN all day and it doesn't crash but if you go to hundreds of different sites each day you'll find it does crash as I support a few 1000 users and their home and work computers all have problems with IE on Win 7)]]>Jun 8th 2010 1:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/windows-7-service-pack-1-public-beta-due-next-month/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/windows-7-service-pack-1-public-beta-due-next-month/
joking

you actually make some really interesting points for "remote support" technicians as everyone now knows you work as]]>Jun 8th 2010 1:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/windows-7-service-pack-1-public-beta-due-next-month/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/windows-7-service-pack-1-public-beta-due-next-month/
Crashes in IE? Why are you there in the first place?]]>Jun 8th 2010 4:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/windows-7-service-pack-1-public-beta-due-next-month/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/windows-7-service-pack-1-public-beta-due-next-month/Jun 8th 2010 1:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/windows-7-service-pack-1-public-beta-due-next-month/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/windows-7-service-pack-1-public-beta-due-next-month/
A lot of service packs get released in a beta set up (though not always called a beta) before release. I remember SP1 for vista had a pre-release version that I installed on my laptop. And completely f***ed it. I had to reinstall everything. My own fault.]]>Jun 8th 2010 1:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/windows-7-service-pack-1-public-beta-due-next-month/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/windows-7-service-pack-1-public-beta-due-next-month/ Please fix copy/cut & paste in Windows 7. Also refresh screen desktop problems. Thanks

Sincerely
Window 7 RTM]]>Jun 8th 2010 1:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/windows-7-service-pack-1-public-beta-due-next-month/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/windows-7-service-pack-1-public-beta-due-next-month/Jun 8th 2010 1:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/windows-7-service-pack-1-public-beta-due-next-month/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/windows-7-service-pack-1-public-beta-due-next-month/Jun 8th 2010 2:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/windows-7-service-pack-1-public-beta-due-next-month/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/windows-7-service-pack-1-public-beta-due-next-month/
Working example: Since engadget's comment system almost always eats comments on the first few attempts, I've been copying mine every time I post a comment, so I don't have to re-type them 3-5 times per post. And it works great.]]>Jun 8th 2010 4:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/windows-7-service-pack-1-public-beta-due-next-month/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/windows-7-service-pack-1-public-beta-due-next-month/
I think he means the problem of explorer not refreshing when you add/remove/rename a file.

http://www.google.com/search?q=windows+7+explorer+not+refreshing]]>Jun 9th 2010 8:11AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/windows-7-service-pack-1-public-beta-due-next-month/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/windows-7-service-pack-1-public-beta-due-next-month/Finally Windows is STABLE and working better then ever if not better then all it's competitors together, and they release an SP for this??
Waste of me so-backed-up system hours :(]]>Jun 8th 2010 1:41PM