http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/15/apple-iphone-4-pre-orders-now-sold-out/ Engadget Comments for http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/15/apple-iphone-4-pre-orders-now-sold-out/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/15/apple-iphone-4-pre-orders-now-sold-out/Jun 15th 2010 11:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/15/apple-iphone-4-pre-orders-now-sold-out/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/15/apple-iphone-4-pre-orders-now-sold-out/
Still can't get on Apple.com...never can... frustrating...]]>Jun 15th 2010 11:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/15/apple-iphone-4-pre-orders-now-sold-out/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/15/apple-iphone-4-pre-orders-now-sold-out/Jun 15th 2010 11:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/15/apple-iphone-4-pre-orders-now-sold-out/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/15/apple-iphone-4-pre-orders-now-sold-out/Jun 15th 2010 11:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/15/apple-iphone-4-pre-orders-now-sold-out/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/15/apple-iphone-4-pre-orders-now-sold-out/Jun 15th 2010 11:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/15/apple-iphone-4-pre-orders-now-sold-out/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/15/apple-iphone-4-pre-orders-now-sold-out/
I wouldn't feel bad at all getting it from Best Buy. I Pre-Ordered mine from there too after Apple and AT&T died on me. Best Buy is callin' in setting up appointments so that way I don't have to wait in line to get my iPhone 4 or to get it activated. I'm happy about that.]]>Jun 15th 2010 11:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/15/apple-iphone-4-pre-orders-now-sold-out/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/15/apple-iphone-4-pre-orders-now-sold-out/Jun 15th 2010 11:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/15/apple-iphone-4-pre-orders-now-sold-out/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/15/apple-iphone-4-pre-orders-now-sold-out/
If you do not sellout your pre-orders, you blew it.]]>Jun 16th 2010 12:11AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/15/apple-iphone-4-pre-orders-now-sold-out/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/15/apple-iphone-4-pre-orders-now-sold-out/
Did you actually do an electronic preorder at Best Buy or did they just have you fill out a paper form? If the latter, you may be SOL like the rest of them as I doubt they will be able to fulfill every paper preorder on launch. They also made no guarantees either.]]>Jun 16th 2010 1:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/15/apple-iphone-4-pre-orders-now-sold-out/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/15/apple-iphone-4-pre-orders-now-sold-out/Jun 16th 2010 1:12AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/15/apple-iphone-4-pre-orders-now-sold-out/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/15/apple-iphone-4-pre-orders-now-sold-out/Jun 16th 2010 2:02AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/15/apple-iphone-4-pre-orders-now-sold-out/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/15/apple-iphone-4-pre-orders-now-sold-out/Jun 16th 2010 3:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/15/apple-iphone-4-pre-orders-now-sold-out/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/15/apple-iphone-4-pre-orders-now-sold-out/
Is anyone really surprised by this? The iPhone 4 will sell at least as well as the 3GS.

Still puzzled why there are no white ones though unless Apple are being sly old dogs and releasing them at retail to bolster queues.]]>Jun 16th 2010 3:13AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/15/apple-iphone-4-pre-orders-now-sold-out/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/15/apple-iphone-4-pre-orders-now-sold-out/
Let me clear something up.
Shipping Date, which has been changed from June 24 to July 2 is no indication of Arrival Date. I have seen receipts of iPhone4 purchases that expect delivery up to a week later. So for all those upset by the change, expecting that it would arrive on that day, be ready to wait longer.]]>Jun 16th 2010 3:25AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/15/apple-iphone-4-pre-orders-now-sold-out/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/15/apple-iphone-4-pre-orders-now-sold-out/
it had problems all day it even went down completely mid afternoon!!!!]]>Jun 16th 2010 3:54AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/15/apple-iphone-4-pre-orders-now-sold-out/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/15/apple-iphone-4-pre-orders-now-sold-out/



BAZINGA!]]>Jun 16th 2010 6:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/15/apple-iphone-4-pre-orders-now-sold-out/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/15/apple-iphone-4-pre-orders-now-sold-out/
Wow, you guys sure don't care about actually making calls on your phones.]]>Jun 16th 2010 8:24AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/15/apple-iphone-4-pre-orders-now-sold-out/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/15/apple-iphone-4-pre-orders-now-sold-out/Jun 16th 2010 8:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/15/apple-iphone-4-pre-orders-now-sold-out/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/15/apple-iphone-4-pre-orders-now-sold-out/Jun 16th 2010 9:23AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/15/apple-iphone-4-pre-orders-now-sold-out/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/15/apple-iphone-4-pre-orders-now-sold-out/Jun 15th 2010 11:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/15/apple-iphone-4-pre-orders-now-sold-out/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/15/apple-iphone-4-pre-orders-now-sold-out/Jun 15th 2010 11:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/15/apple-iphone-4-pre-orders-now-sold-out/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/15/apple-iphone-4-pre-orders-now-sold-out/Jun 15th 2010 11:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/15/apple-iphone-4-pre-orders-now-sold-out/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/15/apple-iphone-4-pre-orders-now-sold-out/Jun 15th 2010 11:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/15/apple-iphone-4-pre-orders-now-sold-out/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/15/apple-iphone-4-pre-orders-now-sold-out/You and the other 65,000 EVO owners can enjoy your phone. iPhone 4 just sold (mark my word) over 2 million phones by the end of launch weekend. Watch for the press release June 28th. ]]>Jun 15th 2010 11:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/15/apple-iphone-4-pre-orders-now-sold-out/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/15/apple-iphone-4-pre-orders-now-sold-out/HTC EVO? Isn't that the same HTC rebranded phone Verizon just shitted out its ass but called it the new Moto Droid X?
You think the iphone 4 is badass? Wait until you see the next generation ipad. Retina screen, camera and the ability to use that rumored touch pad.
But lets juts stick with the present, shall we.]]>Jun 15th 2010 11:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/15/apple-iphone-4-pre-orders-now-sold-out/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/15/apple-iphone-4-pre-orders-now-sold-out/Jun 15th 2010 11:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/15/apple-iphone-4-pre-orders-now-sold-out/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/15/apple-iphone-4-pre-orders-now-sold-out/
The Droid X/Xtreme/Shadow is made by Motorola. Just sayin']]>Jun 15th 2010 11:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/15/apple-iphone-4-pre-orders-now-sold-out/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/15/apple-iphone-4-pre-orders-now-sold-out/Jun 15th 2010 11:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/15/apple-iphone-4-pre-orders-now-sold-out/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/15/apple-iphone-4-pre-orders-now-sold-out/
Not trying to take anything away from the iphone. Its def the leader of the mobile world BUT lets be real here. Theres really no phone in existence that can be fairly compared to it since.

1.majority of iphone users just upgrade their device year after year.So if you sold 10million one generation and upgrade yearly you can safely assume youll sell 10mill next gen with Apples incremental upgrades.

2.Apple sells 1 phone 1 version yearly.No other options to spread the wealth.What other manufacturer does that?

3.Same device sold worldwide subsidized.

4.Apples marketing is 2nd to none. use the same UI on multiple devices each with only 1 version that by now EVERYONE knows how to use.

Now all of these factors will keep the iphone on another level that no other device will match, so can we finally get over the comparisons.

I like my Evo you like your iphone get over.
]]>Jun 15th 2010 11:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/15/apple-iphone-4-pre-orders-now-sold-out/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/15/apple-iphone-4-pre-orders-now-sold-out/Dude, I'm pretty sure the 3GS sold 3 million on the first day didn't it? I'm willing to bet this phone will have sold more than 1 million before the day it launches. ]]>Jun 15th 2010 11:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/15/apple-iphone-4-pre-orders-now-sold-out/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/15/apple-iphone-4-pre-orders-now-sold-out/
You're an idiot, actually understand the tech inside the phones before you run your mouth. Not sure how a phone with a different sized screen, totally different CPU/GPU, different size battery, and totally different company on a totally different carrier are re-branded.

I like the iPhone, but tools like you are what I don't like.]]>Jun 15th 2010 11:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/15/apple-iphone-4-pre-orders-now-sold-out/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/15/apple-iphone-4-pre-orders-now-sold-out/Jun 15th 2010 11:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/15/apple-iphone-4-pre-orders-now-sold-out/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/15/apple-iphone-4-pre-orders-now-sold-out/"HTC EVO? Isn't that the same HTC rebranded phone Verizon just shitted out its ass but called it the new Moto Droid X?"

I'm sorry, what?]]>Jun 15th 2010 11:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/15/apple-iphone-4-pre-orders-now-sold-out/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/15/apple-iphone-4-pre-orders-now-sold-out/Jun 16th 2010 12:01AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/15/apple-iphone-4-pre-orders-now-sold-out/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/15/apple-iphone-4-pre-orders-now-sold-out/Don't you see how everything you just listed is part of what makes the iPhone a success? They use their pattern of release dates to be annual iterations or sequels. If you liked the iPhone experience, wouldn't you like that experience on a better/faster/whatever version of that same phone? They only need to market one device, buy parts for one device, etc etc. It's more or less the same thing they've been doing with computers but easier to swallow.

When I read about how Droid X makes "Droid Incredible look like a benchwarmer," I imagined the people who just bought the Incredible would feel a little bummed out seeing as how they're going to likely be using that phone for the next two years. Unless you're buying phones unlocked, you're a slave to contracts which leave no room to consistently upgrade. So when a newer Android based phone comes out in one/three/six/twelve months, there's really no chance of you picking it up without contract breaking hassle. This is sort of analogous to non-Apple computer releases, if you will, as better components constantly come out; but harder to swallow as you can't upgrade phone components.

Apple/AT&T don't sidestep this entirely since can't upgrade annually. They try to lessen the blow by allowing upgrades at the 18 month mark but this is really just a tease if you've been buying them near the release date each year. Still, at least you don't feel immediately boned when you hear HTC has managed to cram another 2MP or 200MHz a month after you just picked up your latest badass phone. Add hardware fragmentation to platform fragmentation. Android's freedom is fantastic but it leaves a lot of room for instantaneous buyer's remorse since the buyer doesn't have a lot of freedom.

As contracts in the US stand now, I appreciate Apple's benchmark releases as I don't have any real freedom in upgrading anyway. This is a United States centric set of opinions as I've read that other countries have a lot more choice as far as buying unlocked phones and the like.]]>Jun 16th 2010 12:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/15/apple-iphone-4-pre-orders-now-sold-out/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/15/apple-iphone-4-pre-orders-now-sold-out/
My point was you cant compare the iphone to anything. Its not sold, marketing or considered like any other cell. And thats not even discussing features.]]>Jun 16th 2010 12:36AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/15/apple-iphone-4-pre-orders-now-sold-out/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/15/apple-iphone-4-pre-orders-now-sold-out/Jun 16th 2010 12:48AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/15/apple-iphone-4-pre-orders-now-sold-out/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/15/apple-iphone-4-pre-orders-now-sold-out/lol that's awesome. Yeah HTC EVO is a cheap excuse of a phone. ]]>Jun 16th 2010 1:40AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/15/apple-iphone-4-pre-orders-now-sold-out/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/15/apple-iphone-4-pre-orders-now-sold-out/
Think about, it, if you were on a 4 year contract would you be better off if Apple had hardware that is 2, 3 or even 4 years old before you can get a new one? Just because there is or isn't a better phone on your OS of choice doesn't make your phone any better or worse. The main thing it does is keep things easy for devs, which I agree is a major plus for them.

On this same note, I also hate hearing how Google puts something out and people complain because Google put something out and they should slow down. I agree that they should battle the OS fragmentation further than they already have, but I could care less about blamming Google because I know it's not their fault that my device doesn't have it. I still have the same features I had the day before the new OS rev came out.

Maybe I'm just not as envious a person as others...]]>Jun 16th 2010 2:11AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/15/apple-iphone-4-pre-orders-now-sold-out/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/15/apple-iphone-4-pre-orders-now-sold-out/
Mr. EVO got OWNED!]]>Jun 16th 2010 2:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/15/apple-iphone-4-pre-orders-now-sold-out/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/15/apple-iphone-4-pre-orders-now-sold-out/
Now, Google is doing just the same thing Microsoft did when they pawned Apple in the desktop OS. They allowed it to be used on any PC. Mac could only be used on an Apple computer, (cept for the short lived Power Computing POS...the only Mac compatible computer that died after about a year, all my others still work even a Macintosh Classic II).

One of the biggest reasons I've heard about geeks NOT buying Mac was that they like to make their own rig. So for MS OS, this works real well for that. You can make a Frankenstein computer and put any variation of MS OS on it. Don't think your going to have the same issue with smartphones. So while Apple keeps it's OS tight on it's own hardware, you get to see all these variations of Googles OS showing up, with one outdoing the other. But you ain't gonna see too many geeks constructing their new smartphone. With Apple's track records of customer support and quality control, ease of use, continuous tech advances + kick ass aesthetics, there are a lot of people that want the iPhone. So I say enjoy your plastic Evo...it just got bumped by the Droid X, or Froyo or what ever will be coming out next week using the latest Google OS. Good luck keeping up, at least I only have to worry about once a year.]]>Jun 16th 2010 7:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/15/apple-iphone-4-pre-orders-now-sold-out/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/15/apple-iphone-4-pre-orders-now-sold-out/
My point was having the same OS on a single device every year is an advantage to APPLE and very smart. No other phone can compete.

And i misspoke when i used the word UNINFORMED. I meant nontechnical. Yes it just works at what it does and most people dont care to actual want options or more out of it. nothing wrong with that. ]]>Jun 16th 2010 9:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/15/apple-iphone-4-pre-orders-now-sold-out/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/15/apple-iphone-4-pre-orders-now-sold-out/
This has been my point all along. My Android friends love their phones, but they all have buyers remorse. They all want my user experience and Google's supposed freedom. ]]>Jun 16th 2010 9:36AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/15/apple-iphone-4-pre-orders-now-sold-out/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/15/apple-iphone-4-pre-orders-now-sold-out/
"1.majority of iphone users just upgrade their device year after year.So if you sold 10million one generation and upgrade yearly you can safely assume youll sell 10mill next gen with Apples incremental upgrades."

I don't believe this to be the case. When the iPhone came out most everyone said it would fail because it didn't have a physical keyboard... now you'd be hard pressed to find a smartphone with one. Kids adapt pretty fast to almost anything.

I also feel my OSX/Windows comparison is valid. OSX only works on Mac...what 4-7% of all computers. Windows still holds the market share because their OS can be put on any PC (even a Mac). My point is Google is playing a similar game, only this time the hardware can't be manufactured and Google has already put out about a dozen different OS's that work on different hardware, one outdoing the other. So you buy a Droid and next week the Hero comes out, you buy a Hero and the Incredible is released, you buy the incredible and Evo comes out, then Froyo, no Droid X, and on and on. I'm not so sure this strategy is going to keep the masses happy, especially the ones that want to "keep up with the Joneses".

Apple keeps it simple, elegant, easy to use and is constantly raising the bar for mobile device functionality. Okay so OS 4 won't support my daughter's phone. But that's due to hardware upgrades that can't be helped. Froyo doesn't seem like it will work on the original Droid. Looking at an Incredible against my iPhone 3gs, made me love the iPone OS even more. Okay the Incredible was faster with downloads, but everything else about it, mostly the plastic hardware and the fact I couldn't see a movie playing in sunlight was pathetic. Not blaming Google for their OS, but they should be more selective on who's putting it on what hardware or they'll end up the Acer of smartphones, while I'll hand down my 3gs to my brother and my 3g I gave to my lawyer. So your math doesn't make sense. I just made 3 new iPhone customers by purchasing the latest Apple hardware. Does this make sense?]]>Jun 16th 2010 9:45AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/15/apple-iphone-4-pre-orders-now-sold-out/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/15/apple-iphone-4-pre-orders-now-sold-out/You cant really compare the cell industry to the PC industry. Theres a different mindset when you purchase a cell and a computer. People don’t have the same connection to their PCs as they do their Cells. Some people can go a couple days without even touching their computer but your cell is near you 24/7. The PC industry hardware wise is totally diff then the cell industry. If you walk into Bestbuy read the specs on each computer. They are all basically the same. Only diff is the case. Most consumers couldn’t even tell you what kind of memory their computers needs. And most wont even notice the diff once you remove all the crap manufacturers install. And there are basically only 2 diff OS choices. Tho really only one for mainstream usage WINDOWS. But every person knows the details of their cell. And they come in so many diff types of configs and do so many dif thigns.

The cell industry is totally diff. You have APPLE, Nokia, Google and so many diff versions of Android and Symbian floating around.And one version of iphone OS each year. It just cant be compared. Apple hasn’t raised the bar with iphone for a while. The last year and half they have been playing catchup spec wise. What they excel at is how the present their features and how they put it together in a simple to use package even grandma can recite Steves presentations like she understands it. Froyo will be compatible with the Droid. And Google has set new rules to limit or end fragmentation. Its just up to Motorola and VZ to release the updates in a timely manner. The problem is its in VZ and motorolas best interest to just release something newer then support their current devices. Since their competitors are releasing new devices on a monthly basis. New devices attract new subscribers. Google-->motorola--->VZ--> Customer... Or Apple+ AT&T--->Customer. Which system do you think has the advantage? Apple controls their own world since they supply the hardware and the OS updates each year. Who else in the cell industry has this same model?

Your example of handing down your older Iphones doesn’t compare to my point. You actually took new sales away from apple and AT&T. I assume there already AT&T customers. The 3G and the 3Gs are still supported by Apple right now. Can you name another device that came out when the 3G did that’s still supported like it? My point was each year Apple releases a new device you can safely assume most users in the itunes ecosystem will upgrade. I don’t understand why people still get shocked each year when apple sells a lot of iphones. I assume at least 70% of current iphone users will upgrade once the new one is released each year.

I didn’t mean to come across as snooty when I said I didn’t understand your point. Its these types of debates that make me love reading Engadget. ]]>Jun 16th 2010 10:37AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/15/apple-iphone-4-pre-orders-now-sold-out/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/15/apple-iphone-4-pre-orders-now-sold-out/
Many of my Non Apple family members don't even know what their new phones are capable of. I live by it. I was at a business meeting with about 20 people and only 1 new how to send a vCard. They all still rely on paper cards and I'm not fond of killing trees if I can avoid it. Sorry getting a little off topic.

So yeah, I agree and disagree but I have yet to see Google's mobile OS on a rock solid well constructed piece of hardware. Please list some options so I can go check them out. Thanks.]]>Jun 16th 2010 11:23AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/15/apple-iphone-4-pre-orders-now-sold-out/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/15/apple-iphone-4-pre-orders-now-sold-out/
I would perceive myself a very tech savvy person and I use my phone to its fullest and the only time I needed to send a vcard was to import my palm pre contacts to Gmail so I would have them on my Evo. And as much as this is an electronic ago some things still havent been replaced with gadgets like business cards.Handing someone a Bcard is not the same as using bluetooth or emailing them it. Most people still like that interaction, its more trusted.

A rock solid device by Google would def have to be the Nexus1. It may not have been the high volume sold device but its by far the best all around Android device. But that’s what you get when Google controls the OS and the hardware. N1 was just a reference device for everyone to see the power of Android it was never built or marketed to sell millions. Tho Nokia and Motorola have made plenty of rock solid devices, mostly Nokia but Americans wouldn’t see any of those phones by Nokia. Nokia makes more high-end phones then any other manufacturer including Apple. Its their OS that is sometimes not on the same level.

I believe we both have great points. If Apple didn’t limit the iphone so much and it wasn’t on AT&T I would totally jump all over it. But with my cheaper Sprint bill and to me good service with zero dropped calls I just cant justify using the iphone. I love watching my movies on a big screen with a device that still fits in my pocket. When I use my ipod touch now the screen feels so tiny. Im not an Apps guy so I don’t feel im missing out on the 200K+ app market. Android market has served me well.Plus I like customizing all my devices..Were geeks that’s what we do..

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