http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/16/600-000-iphone-4s-pre-ordered-apple-apologizes-for-issues/ Engadget Comments for http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/16/600-000-iphone-4s-pre-ordered-apple-apologizes-for-issues/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/16/600-000-iphone-4s-pre-ordered-apple-apologizes-for-issues/Jun 16th 2010 12:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/16/600-000-iphone-4s-pre-ordered-apple-apologizes-for-issues/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/16/600-000-iphone-4s-pre-ordered-apple-apologizes-for-issues/
That's one heck of an impressive number!]]>Jun 16th 2010 12:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/16/600-000-iphone-4s-pre-ordered-apple-apologizes-for-issues/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/16/600-000-iphone-4s-pre-ordered-apple-apologizes-for-issues/Jun 16th 2010 12:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/16/600-000-iphone-4s-pre-ordered-apple-apologizes-for-issues/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/16/600-000-iphone-4s-pre-ordered-apple-apologizes-for-issues/
30 Million when to seller try to sell this phone over $1000, 10 million are idiot who think that is the actual price without contract. and 20 million can't get enough apple (itune)]]>Jun 16th 2010 12:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/16/600-000-iphone-4s-pre-ordered-apple-apologizes-for-issues/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/16/600-000-iphone-4s-pre-ordered-apple-apologizes-for-issues/wow! thats amazing even for apple! and hey, i would have been one of those preorders too if it wasn't on ATT. Oh well! Plenty of other options. ]]>Jun 16th 2010 12:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/16/600-000-iphone-4s-pre-ordered-apple-apologizes-for-issues/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/16/600-000-iphone-4s-pre-ordered-apple-apologizes-for-issues/
Isn't that just stateside numbers? Imagine the International preorder numbers? ]]>Jun 16th 2010 12:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/16/600-000-iphone-4s-pre-ordered-apple-apologizes-for-issues/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/16/600-000-iphone-4s-pre-ordered-apple-apologizes-for-issues/
If verizon ever gets the iphone i bet the pre-order sales will be completely ridiculous.]]>Jun 16th 2010 12:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/16/600-000-iphone-4s-pre-ordered-apple-apologizes-for-issues/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/16/600-000-iphone-4s-pre-ordered-apple-apologizes-for-issues/Jun 16th 2010 12:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/16/600-000-iphone-4s-pre-ordered-apple-apologizes-for-issues/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/16/600-000-iphone-4s-pre-ordered-apple-apologizes-for-issues/Say what you want, but if the iPhone came to Verizon it could crush the android rebellion for at least a year. Not saying the iPhone is better, but people like them a LOT :| ]]>Jun 16th 2010 12:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/16/600-000-iphone-4s-pre-ordered-apple-apologizes-for-issues/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/16/600-000-iphone-4s-pre-ordered-apple-apologizes-for-issues/So what's next? Another delay in international launch and another committed suicide in Foxconn factory??]]>Jun 16th 2010 12:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/16/600-000-iphone-4s-pre-ordered-apple-apologizes-for-issues/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/16/600-000-iphone-4s-pre-ordered-apple-apologizes-for-issues/
Yup, not even close. You have to be realistic. ]]>Jun 16th 2010 12:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/16/600-000-iphone-4s-pre-ordered-apple-apologizes-for-issues/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/16/600-000-iphone-4s-pre-ordered-apple-apologizes-for-issues/Jun 16th 2010 12:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/16/600-000-iphone-4s-pre-ordered-apple-apologizes-for-issues/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/16/600-000-iphone-4s-pre-ordered-apple-apologizes-for-issues/
To be fair, for me, AT&T only seemed to be the problem for half the day, when the system was checking my elligibility.

But then I finally got through at 10pm Eastern and got 2 phones ordered after fighting and cussing at Apples Shopping cart which deleted my phones twice during the final approval process.

Then I find out that somehow I have 4 on order instead of 2.

Tried to call Apple this morning at the exact instant that they opened, and gave up after being on hold for 39 min.]]>Jun 16th 2010 12:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/16/600-000-iphone-4s-pre-ordered-apple-apologizes-for-issues/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/16/600-000-iphone-4s-pre-ordered-apple-apologizes-for-issues/
oh yeah...I wanted to add that I started trying at 4:45am Eastern, and finally got them preordered at 10:30pm Eastern.]]>Jun 16th 2010 12:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/16/600-000-iphone-4s-pre-ordered-apple-apologizes-for-issues/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/16/600-000-iphone-4s-pre-ordered-apple-apologizes-for-issues/Jun 16th 2010 12:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/16/600-000-iphone-4s-pre-ordered-apple-apologizes-for-issues/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/16/600-000-iphone-4s-pre-ordered-apple-apologizes-for-issues/
I bet Steve does a wink and a smile at himself in the mirror this morning. ]]>Jun 16th 2010 12:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/16/600-000-iphone-4s-pre-ordered-apple-apologizes-for-issues/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/16/600-000-iphone-4s-pre-ordered-apple-apologizes-for-issues/
it's a convenient way to both spin at&t's blundering and continue to build hype OMG l1mited edition must have 1ne.]]>Jun 16th 2010 12:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/16/600-000-iphone-4s-pre-ordered-apple-apologizes-for-issues/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/16/600-000-iphone-4s-pre-ordered-apple-apologizes-for-issues/
No it means they had 600K pre-orders. It's a pretty simple concept.]]>Jun 16th 2010 12:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/16/600-000-iphone-4s-pre-ordered-apple-apologizes-for-issues/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/16/600-000-iphone-4s-pre-ordered-apple-apologizes-for-issues/Jun 16th 2010 12:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/16/600-000-iphone-4s-pre-ordered-apple-apologizes-for-issues/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/16/600-000-iphone-4s-pre-ordered-apple-apologizes-for-issues/
Yeah but that's AT&T being a bit shit which is like saying water is a bit wet. If anyone was going to screw things up it was them.]]>Jun 16th 2010 12:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/16/600-000-iphone-4s-pre-ordered-apple-apologizes-for-issues/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/16/600-000-iphone-4s-pre-ordered-apple-apologizes-for-issues/
So you're saying Apple WANTS people to have problems ordering their phone? How would that benefit Apple in any way?

@MarkAnderson:

"the whole 30 pin plug/iTunes/'my way or the highway' thing puts me off."

Let's be extra super clear about this: The only thing that you "have" to use is iTunes (assuming you don't just use a 3rd party app). You do NOT have to buy content from the iTunes store. "Locked in" or "closed" suggests that you can't use anybody else's content, which is the opposite of true.

iTunes is simply the mechanism by which you sync the phone. You are free to put any content, from any source, on your iPhone. You can load whatever you want into iTunes, and either have iTunes manage it, or manage it yourself and put it wherever you want. Comments like yours tend to give people the wrong idea, which leads to Apple haters and comments like "If you have an iPhone you can only listen to Apple music HURRR"

Let's not contribute to the ignorance, shall we? And by the way I'm pretty sure you understood that already, but not everybody reading your post would.]]>Jun 16th 2010 12:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/16/600-000-iphone-4s-pre-ordered-apple-apologizes-for-issues/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/16/600-000-iphone-4s-pre-ordered-apple-apologizes-for-issues/
Do you even know what a subjective opinion is?

See point 4 for further details.]]>Jun 16th 2010 12:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/16/600-000-iphone-4s-pre-ordered-apple-apologizes-for-issues/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/16/600-000-iphone-4s-pre-ordered-apple-apologizes-for-issues/I wonder how many are repeat customers? ]]>Jun 16th 2010 12:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/16/600-000-iphone-4s-pre-ordered-apple-apologizes-for-issues/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/16/600-000-iphone-4s-pre-ordered-apple-apologizes-for-issues/Jun 16th 2010 1:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/16/600-000-iphone-4s-pre-ordered-apple-apologizes-for-issues/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/16/600-000-iphone-4s-pre-ordered-apple-apologizes-for-issues/But should be small in internet terms. 300k at the Apple store, 300k at the AT&T store. That should not at all be too much to bring their servers to their knees. You would think with all that processing power those companies have in their arsenal that could not happen. ]]>Jun 16th 2010 1:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/16/600-000-iphone-4s-pre-ordered-apple-apologizes-for-issues/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/16/600-000-iphone-4s-pre-ordered-apple-apologizes-for-issues/
All and all, I've wanted an Android for a while now, but AT&T's line up is such garbage that I had settled on an iPhone. But I'm not going to wait for a new iPhone just to watch AT&T step on their dick again. Bad network, crap customer service, and a mediocre phone line up.]]>Jun 16th 2010 1:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/16/600-000-iphone-4s-pre-ordered-apple-apologizes-for-issues/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/16/600-000-iphone-4s-pre-ordered-apple-apologizes-for-issues/Jun 16th 2010 1:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/16/600-000-iphone-4s-pre-ordered-apple-apologizes-for-issues/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/16/600-000-iphone-4s-pre-ordered-apple-apologizes-for-issues/Jun 16th 2010 1:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/16/600-000-iphone-4s-pre-ordered-apple-apologizes-for-issues/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/16/600-000-iphone-4s-pre-ordered-apple-apologizes-for-issues/
You missed my point in its entirety. Implying iTunes "locks you in" or is "closed" is not subjective. It's WRONG, as in factually wrong. I understand you didn't say it was closed or locks you in, but that is what you meant when you said it was "my way or the highway", yes?

This is why I said let's be extra super clear about this. You may not like the 30 pin connector, but who cares? It comes with the device, and it's USB on the other end. What are you complaining about? Are you complaining that you have to use iTunes? So use a different program. Are you complaining that iTunes is a closed ecosystem?

That's what's not clear in your post. It's just sort of a vague "I don't like the way Apple does things" complaint without addressing what you don't like about it. And that is what leads people to believe that iTunes store CONTENT is the only thing you can put on your iPhone, which obviously isn't true. And don't tell me you've never seen people making that mistake - it happens all the time, right here in these comment sections.]]>Jun 16th 2010 1:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/16/600-000-iphone-4s-pre-ordered-apple-apologizes-for-issues/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/16/600-000-iphone-4s-pre-ordered-apple-apologizes-for-issues/
So 600,000 people brought down AT&T's servers? I mean, that's a lot of iPhone sales, but don't most large websites handle much more traffic than that every single day?]]>Jun 16th 2010 1:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/16/600-000-iphone-4s-pre-ordered-apple-apologizes-for-issues/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/16/600-000-iphone-4s-pre-ordered-apple-apologizes-for-issues/Holy SH** that's impressive. You can't even argue that]]>Jun 16th 2010 1:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/16/600-000-iphone-4s-pre-ordered-apple-apologizes-for-issues/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/16/600-000-iphone-4s-pre-ordered-apple-apologizes-for-issues/While I disagree with your comment about iTunes, I am too put off by the 30 pin connector. I read somewhere that in certain countries it's required by law to use the standard, one of those mini USB jacks. I was really looking forward to Apple implementing this, but judging by the pictures (lol), at least no in any of the early release countries.

I know somebody who had to buy like 5 iPod/iPhone cables when he could just get any one of those cheap USB cables or his cell phone charger. Actually, now that I think about it, his phone might be a Sony Ericsson, who use their own cables too... mutha%&#$a]]>Jun 16th 2010 1:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/16/600-000-iphone-4s-pre-ordered-apple-apologizes-for-issues/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/16/600-000-iphone-4s-pre-ordered-apple-apologizes-for-issues/
That's probably what did it.]]>Jun 16th 2010 1:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/16/600-000-iphone-4s-pre-ordered-apple-apologizes-for-issues/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/16/600-000-iphone-4s-pre-ordered-apple-apologizes-for-issues/Jun 16th 2010 1:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/16/600-000-iphone-4s-pre-ordered-apple-apologizes-for-issues/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/16/600-000-iphone-4s-pre-ordered-apple-apologizes-for-issues/
Thats 600,000 AFTER the 13,000,000 bombarded the servers; crashing them however many times they did. That was just 13,000,000 on AT&T's side. How many went to Apple and tried to preorder. ]]>Jun 16th 2010 1:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/16/600-000-iphone-4s-pre-ordered-apple-apologizes-for-issues/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/16/600-000-iphone-4s-pre-ordered-apple-apologizes-for-issues/
At least 90 of those checks were me killing the keyboard ENTER button.]]>Jun 16th 2010 1:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/16/600-000-iphone-4s-pre-ordered-apple-apologizes-for-issues/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/16/600-000-iphone-4s-pre-ordered-apple-apologizes-for-issues/Jun 16th 2010 1:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/16/600-000-iphone-4s-pre-ordered-apple-apologizes-for-issues/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/16/600-000-iphone-4s-pre-ordered-apple-apologizes-for-issues/Jun 16th 2010 1:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/16/600-000-iphone-4s-pre-ordered-apple-apologizes-for-issues/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/16/600-000-iphone-4s-pre-ordered-apple-apologizes-for-issues/Jun 16th 2010 1:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/16/600-000-iphone-4s-pre-ordered-apple-apologizes-for-issues/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/16/600-000-iphone-4s-pre-ordered-apple-apologizes-for-issues/
Wow. Looks like June 24th will be the day the AT&T network officially crumbles.]]>Jun 16th 2010 1:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/16/600-000-iphone-4s-pre-ordered-apple-apologizes-for-issues/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/16/600-000-iphone-4s-pre-ordered-apple-apologizes-for-issues/Jun 16th 2010 2:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/16/600-000-iphone-4s-pre-ordered-apple-apologizes-for-issues/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/16/600-000-iphone-4s-pre-ordered-apple-apologizes-for-issues/
600,001 - I couldn't login till today. ]]>Jun 16th 2010 2:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/16/600-000-iphone-4s-pre-ordered-apple-apologizes-for-issues/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/16/600-000-iphone-4s-pre-ordered-apple-apologizes-for-issues/ people sign up for iphone 4 with AT&T by paying $199 (
2 Million)

30 days later people sign up for iphone 4 with VERIZON by paying $199 (
4 Million)

The look on the faces of those 2 M ( knowing that they totally f***ed up ) = priceless

]]>Jun 16th 2010 2:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/16/600-000-iphone-4s-pre-ordered-apple-apologizes-for-issues/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/16/600-000-iphone-4s-pre-ordered-apple-apologizes-for-issues/Jun 16th 2010 2:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/16/600-000-iphone-4s-pre-ordered-apple-apologizes-for-issues/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/16/600-000-iphone-4s-pre-ordered-apple-apologizes-for-issues/I bought the Evo on launch and I just returned it yesterday. My hatred for it went so deep I went through the time to put a review for in on YouTube to hopefully keep others away:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WenAs_8IZXM

The next time you go to do ANYTHING on the phone and it can't even track your freaking finger, just remember that it doesn't have to be like that.]]>Jun 16th 2010 2:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/16/600-000-iphone-4s-pre-ordered-apple-apologizes-for-issues/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/16/600-000-iphone-4s-pre-ordered-apple-apologizes-for-issues/
That's a wonderfully impressive number indeed. I wonder how many of those orders, though, are going to be cancelled or returned when people find out they've been billed to the wrong card, shipped to the wrong address, or mistakenly ordered more than actually requested.

That two million might not go far when the class action lawsuit for all this hits.

http://gizmodo.com/5564913/proof-iphone-4-pre+orders-using-other-peoples-credit-cards-shipping-info ]]>Jun 16th 2010 2:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/16/600-000-iphone-4s-pre-ordered-apple-apologizes-for-issues/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/16/600-000-iphone-4s-pre-ordered-apple-apologizes-for-issues/]]>Jun 16th 2010 2:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/16/600-000-iphone-4s-pre-ordered-apple-apologizes-for-issues/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/16/600-000-iphone-4s-pre-ordered-apple-apologizes-for-issues/Jun 16th 2010 2:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/16/600-000-iphone-4s-pre-ordered-apple-apologizes-for-issues/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/16/600-000-iphone-4s-pre-ordered-apple-apologizes-for-issues/
dumbass. NOBODY thinks that. i read these comments all the time, and i've never seen anyone say anything like that. everyone knows that you can rip cd's and download music from outside itunes to your itunes library.

"Implying iTunes "locks you in" or is "closed" is not subjective. It's WRONG, as in factually wrong. I understand you didn't say it was closed or locks you in, but that is what you meant when you said it was "my way or the highway", yes?"

i'm pretty sure you still need itunes to update the phone's software, so yeah, you're basically locked to itunes. and NO that is NOT what he meant by "my way or the highway." read that again:

"30 pin plug/iTunes/'my way or the highway'"

what the hell made you think "iTunes" and 'my way or the highway' were related at all? if they were, he would have written "30 pin plug/iTunes ('my way or the highway'). work on your freaking reading comprehension. those slashes indicate SEPARATE ITEMS.

what he meant by 'my way or the highway' was Apples general handling of the iphone/ipad/ipod in general. they do their best to control almost every aspect of the device. you can only run apps they let you run. there is almost no customization of the OS, even in iOS 4, as opposed to Android, where you can have apps that downclock your processor when the screen is off, or turns off wifi when you leave your house. obviously many people love how apple has decided the iproducts should operate, but mark isn't totally satisfied, and neither am i.]]>Jun 16th 2010 2:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/16/600-000-iphone-4s-pre-ordered-apple-apologizes-for-issues/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/16/600-000-iphone-4s-pre-ordered-apple-apologizes-for-issues/Jun 16th 2010 2:32PM