http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/17/thrustmaster-unveils-its-perfect-replica-hotas-warthog-flight-co/ Engadget Comments for Thrustmaster unveils its perfect replica HOTAS Warthog flight controller, we go hands-on (video) http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/17/thrustmaster-unveils-its-perfect-replica-hotas-warthog-flight-co/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/17/thrustmaster-unveils-its-perfect-replica-hotas-warthog-flight-co/Jun 17th 2010 12:44AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/17/thrustmaster-unveils-its-perfect-replica-hotas-warthog-flight-co/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/17/thrustmaster-unveils-its-perfect-replica-hotas-warthog-flight-co/
I am so excited to see all the reviews for the new iphone 4.

:P]]>Jun 17th 2010 1:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/17/thrustmaster-unveils-its-perfect-replica-hotas-warthog-flight-co/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/17/thrustmaster-unveils-its-perfect-replica-hotas-warthog-flight-co/
this has officially been added to my Christmas list!]]>Jun 17th 2010 1:25AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/17/thrustmaster-unveils-its-perfect-replica-hotas-warthog-flight-co/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/17/thrustmaster-unveils-its-perfect-replica-hotas-warthog-flight-co/Jun 17th 2010 2:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/17/thrustmaster-unveils-its-perfect-replica-hotas-warthog-flight-co/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/17/thrustmaster-unveils-its-perfect-replica-hotas-warthog-flight-co/
Perfect replicas are OK but I perfer innovative designs like Saiteks X-45. Thing is, I'm just dying for these companies to give us FORCE FEEDBACK as good as Microsoft's Sidewinder Pro.

If they released a stick like this with Force Feedback, I'd be back into Flight sims immediately. ]]>Jun 17th 2010 7:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/17/thrustmaster-unveils-its-perfect-replica-hotas-warthog-flight-co/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/17/thrustmaster-unveils-its-perfect-replica-hotas-warthog-flight-co/Maybe Logitech's G940 is what you're looking for?]]>Jun 19th 2010 10:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/17/thrustmaster-unveils-its-perfect-replica-hotas-warthog-flight-co/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/17/thrustmaster-unveils-its-perfect-replica-hotas-warthog-flight-co/Jun 17th 2010 12:45AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/17/thrustmaster-unveils-its-perfect-replica-hotas-warthog-flight-co/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/17/thrustmaster-unveils-its-perfect-replica-hotas-warthog-flight-co/Jun 17th 2010 1:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/17/thrustmaster-unveils-its-perfect-replica-hotas-warthog-flight-co/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/17/thrustmaster-unveils-its-perfect-replica-hotas-warthog-flight-co/
Those weird frames with the green LEDs were stupid. Fill those frames with something, preferably an LCD]]>Jun 17th 2010 12:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/17/thrustmaster-unveils-its-perfect-replica-hotas-warthog-flight-co/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/17/thrustmaster-unveils-its-perfect-replica-hotas-warthog-flight-co/
Plus you'd have to build support for them into EVERY game.

As is, it looks like a sweet setup. I'll definitely be buying a set myself.]]>Jun 17th 2010 1:32AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/17/thrustmaster-unveils-its-perfect-replica-hotas-warthog-flight-co/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/17/thrustmaster-unveils-its-perfect-replica-hotas-warthog-flight-co/Jun 17th 2010 12:55AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/17/thrustmaster-unveils-its-perfect-replica-hotas-warthog-flight-co/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/17/thrustmaster-unveils-its-perfect-replica-hotas-warthog-flight-co/Ted Striker: Surely you can't be serious.
Rumack: I am serious... and don't call me Shirley. ]]>Jun 17th 2010 1:12AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/17/thrustmaster-unveils-its-perfect-replica-hotas-warthog-flight-co/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/17/thrustmaster-unveils-its-perfect-replica-hotas-warthog-flight-co/Jun 17th 2010 1:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/17/thrustmaster-unveils-its-perfect-replica-hotas-warthog-flight-co/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/17/thrustmaster-unveils-its-perfect-replica-hotas-warthog-flight-co/"Move'n'Thrust"? That game would be so wrong...]]>Jun 17th 2010 6:14AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/17/thrustmaster-unveils-its-perfect-replica-hotas-warthog-flight-co/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/17/thrustmaster-unveils-its-perfect-replica-hotas-warthog-flight-co/
Also, how about a mechwarrior remake with a "realistic" cockpit setup!]]>Jun 17th 2010 1:25AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/17/thrustmaster-unveils-its-perfect-replica-hotas-warthog-flight-co/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/17/thrustmaster-unveils-its-perfect-replica-hotas-warthog-flight-co/"Also, how about a mechwarrior remake with a "realistic" cockpit setup!"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steel_Battalion

How much more realistic do you want?
]]>Jun 17th 2010 9:37AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/17/thrustmaster-unveils-its-perfect-replica-hotas-warthog-flight-co/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/17/thrustmaster-unveils-its-perfect-replica-hotas-warthog-flight-co/I actually have that game, blue-button version of the controller and all.

Very different game from Battletech/MechWarrior. More focus on movement, getting hit less (as opposed to hitting the enemy more in the right places), and proper VT selection due to more limited customization (whereas in BT/MW, it doesn't matter that much what 'Mech you pick so long as it's in the right tonnage range, can torso-twist, and fits your aesthetic tastes, MW4's changed layout system aside).

But if you've really got to have Battletech/MechWarrior in a realistic cockpit setup: Virtual World. They made arcade cockpit pods for specialized versions of Battletech (until BT: Firestorm turned it into MW4 in an arcade cockpit), as well as another game called Red Planet (until the Tesla II pods dropped support for it in favor of BT: Firestorm). Good luck finding one, though-they're elusive enough in arcades as is, and the likely price to bring one into your home will probably make an original Xbox + a Steel Battalion set look like a bargain by comparison.]]>Jun 20th 2010 12:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/17/thrustmaster-unveils-its-perfect-replica-hotas-warthog-flight-co/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/17/thrustmaster-unveils-its-perfect-replica-hotas-warthog-flight-co/Jun 17th 2010 1:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/17/thrustmaster-unveils-its-perfect-replica-hotas-warthog-flight-co/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/17/thrustmaster-unveils-its-perfect-replica-hotas-warthog-flight-co/Jun 17th 2010 1:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/17/thrustmaster-unveils-its-perfect-replica-hotas-warthog-flight-co/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/17/thrustmaster-unveils-its-perfect-replica-hotas-warthog-flight-co/Jun 17th 2010 2:10AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/17/thrustmaster-unveils-its-perfect-replica-hotas-warthog-flight-co/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/17/thrustmaster-unveils-its-perfect-replica-hotas-warthog-flight-co/Jun 17th 2010 2:36AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/17/thrustmaster-unveils-its-perfect-replica-hotas-warthog-flight-co/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/17/thrustmaster-unveils-its-perfect-replica-hotas-warthog-flight-co/Jun 17th 2010 2:54AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/17/thrustmaster-unveils-its-perfect-replica-hotas-warthog-flight-co/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/17/thrustmaster-unveils-its-perfect-replica-hotas-warthog-flight-co/
A320 stick can has no forced resistance at all bar the rubber and centering pneumatics and even those can be disabled if the pilot so desires or needs.

This is somewhat criticized by some pilots as they don't have any feedback if they're over-stressing the plane frame, but the aircraft is smart and compensates for unintentional pilot error, while other aircraft might need to feed the feedback to the pilot the airbus doesn't.

Visit me at the Airbus factory!]]>Jun 17th 2010 3:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/17/thrustmaster-unveils-its-perfect-replica-hotas-warthog-flight-co/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/17/thrustmaster-unveils-its-perfect-replica-hotas-warthog-flight-co/you're comparing the weight=(mass x gravity) of the joystick vs the weight of moving the stick in the real plane...]]>Jun 17th 2010 3:45AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/17/thrustmaster-unveils-its-perfect-replica-hotas-warthog-flight-co/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/17/thrustmaster-unveils-its-perfect-replica-hotas-warthog-flight-co/Jun 17th 2010 3:52AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/17/thrustmaster-unveils-its-perfect-replica-hotas-warthog-flight-co/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/17/thrustmaster-unveils-its-perfect-replica-hotas-warthog-flight-co/Jun 17th 2010 7:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/17/thrustmaster-unveils-its-perfect-replica-hotas-warthog-flight-co/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/17/thrustmaster-unveils-its-perfect-replica-hotas-warthog-flight-co/
Airbus aren't the only aircraft with flight control laws that prevent the aircraft from exiting normal flight. The Boeing 777 and 787 both have flight control laws, the only difference with that you can completely override them in the Boeing and do Direct Law. Where as with the Airbus the best I can do is force Alternate Law or Manual Reversion.

I've read more then a few accident reports where it was an extreme maneuver that ultimately saved the aircraft, those extreme maneuvers are prohibited by flight control laws. And there is at least one accident that was caused by the Airbus's flight control law *cough*Paris Airshow*cough*.

Personally I don't mind fly by wire systems, nor flight envelope protection, as long as I can ultimately override it and go direct control of the aircraft for an extreme situation.]]>Jun 17th 2010 8:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/17/thrustmaster-unveils-its-perfect-replica-hotas-warthog-flight-co/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/17/thrustmaster-unveils-its-perfect-replica-hotas-warthog-flight-co/
physic fail.
]]>Jun 17th 2010 10:12AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/17/thrustmaster-unveils-its-perfect-replica-hotas-warthog-flight-co/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/17/thrustmaster-unveils-its-perfect-replica-hotas-warthog-flight-co/
Wow....real gall to claim DCMike has no clue when it's pretty obvious, you're oblivious to what you're talking about.

First,as has been stated, the F-16 using force sensing controls though it's incorrect that the stick doesn't move. There is a little play in it though the movement was added as a haptic "feel" change as many pilots would accidentally use excessive flight control inputs due to lack of physical feedback from the stick that a command was registered.

And yes, as DCMike stated, when you're dealing with an aircraft using mechanical or hydromechanical control systems, under normal flight conditions, mechanical controls (such as those in a Cessna Skyhawk) don't require much force to activate if the aircraft is properly trimmed. Now, if you're excessively loading the aircraft through aerobatic or high performance maneuvers, then yes, the controls require more force to manipulate.

That's not the case with hydromechanical flight control systems as hydraulics are assisting with moving control surfaces. In fact, the lack of feedback from a loaded control surface is why manufacturers started adding artificial feedback like stick shakers.

And of course with a fly-by-wire aircraft like many military jets and most modern passenger aircraft, there is no control force other than what may be artificially added by the manufacturer as the stick has no direct linkage to control surfaces as mechanical control and hydromechanical controls systems provide.]]>Jun 17th 2010 12:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/17/thrustmaster-unveils-its-perfect-replica-hotas-warthog-flight-co/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/17/thrustmaster-unveils-its-perfect-replica-hotas-warthog-flight-co/Jun 17th 2010 2:12AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/17/thrustmaster-unveils-its-perfect-replica-hotas-warthog-flight-co/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/17/thrustmaster-unveils-its-perfect-replica-hotas-warthog-flight-co/Jun 17th 2010 3:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/17/thrustmaster-unveils-its-perfect-replica-hotas-warthog-flight-co/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/17/thrustmaster-unveils-its-perfect-replica-hotas-warthog-flight-co/the old hotas was $300 when it came out]]>Jun 17th 2010 3:46AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/17/thrustmaster-unveils-its-perfect-replica-hotas-warthog-flight-co/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/17/thrustmaster-unveils-its-perfect-replica-hotas-warthog-flight-co/Jun 17th 2010 8:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/17/thrustmaster-unveils-its-perfect-replica-hotas-warthog-flight-co/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/17/thrustmaster-unveils-its-perfect-replica-hotas-warthog-flight-co/
almost every product is done in china, special those product starting with i*
]]>Jun 17th 2010 10:13AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/17/thrustmaster-unveils-its-perfect-replica-hotas-warthog-flight-co/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/17/thrustmaster-unveils-its-perfect-replica-hotas-warthog-flight-co/i know but for $300 i would rather get myself a decent video card, new motherboard, CPU etc.... i just feel $300.00 is too much for joystick/throttle or is that price just for the stick, i hope not!!!]]>Jun 17th 2010 11:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/17/thrustmaster-unveils-its-perfect-replica-hotas-warthog-flight-co/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/17/thrustmaster-unveils-its-perfect-replica-hotas-warthog-flight-co/
My Cougar has seen a Geforce2 GTS, an 8800GT and a Radeon 58x0 in it's time and 2 different CPU/motherboard combos.]]>Jun 19th 2010 10:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/17/thrustmaster-unveils-its-perfect-replica-hotas-warthog-flight-co/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/17/thrustmaster-unveils-its-perfect-replica-hotas-warthog-flight-co/Right on. Peripherals like this are generally usable for far longer than a PC's core components, and also hold their value much better as a result should one have to sell them off.

Besides, I'm of the opinion that better controls make for far better immersion and playability than a new graphics card or CPU. No point in trying to fly an A-10 or F-16 or other such aircraft with just a keyboard and mouse.

(P.S.-Are you the same guy from Frugal's, while it was still up?)]]>Jun 20th 2010 12:37AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/17/thrustmaster-unveils-its-perfect-replica-hotas-warthog-flight-co/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/17/thrustmaster-unveils-its-perfect-replica-hotas-warthog-flight-co/http://frugalsrefugees.yuku.com/forums]]>Jun 20th 2010 10:45AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/17/thrustmaster-unveils-its-perfect-replica-hotas-warthog-flight-co/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/17/thrustmaster-unveils-its-perfect-replica-hotas-warthog-flight-co/Jun 17th 2010 9:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/17/thrustmaster-unveils-its-perfect-replica-hotas-warthog-flight-co/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/17/thrustmaster-unveils-its-perfect-replica-hotas-warthog-flight-co/Jun 17th 2010 11:18AM