http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/18/meego-handset-ui-guidelines-offer-details-aplenty-suggestion-of/ Engadget Comments for Meego handset UI guidelines offer details aplenty, suggestion of WebOS, Android influences http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/18/meego-handset-ui-guidelines-offer-details-aplenty-suggestion-of/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/18/meego-handset-ui-guidelines-offer-details-aplenty-suggestion-of/Jun 18th 2010 4:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/18/meego-handset-ui-guidelines-offer-details-aplenty-suggestion-of/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/18/meego-handset-ui-guidelines-offer-details-aplenty-suggestion-of/They'll probably call it maemo UI]]>Jun 18th 2010 4:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/18/meego-handset-ui-guidelines-offer-details-aplenty-suggestion-of/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/18/meego-handset-ui-guidelines-offer-details-aplenty-suggestion-of/Jun 18th 2010 5:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/18/meego-handset-ui-guidelines-offer-details-aplenty-suggestion-of/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/18/meego-handset-ui-guidelines-offer-details-aplenty-suggestion-of/Jun 18th 2010 5:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/18/meego-handset-ui-guidelines-offer-details-aplenty-suggestion-of/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/18/meego-handset-ui-guidelines-offer-details-aplenty-suggestion-of/]]>Jun 18th 2010 6:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/18/meego-handset-ui-guidelines-offer-details-aplenty-suggestion-of/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/18/meego-handset-ui-guidelines-offer-details-aplenty-suggestion-of/Jun 19th 2010 9:46AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/18/meego-handset-ui-guidelines-offer-details-aplenty-suggestion-of/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/18/meego-handset-ui-guidelines-offer-details-aplenty-suggestion-of/Jun 18th 2010 4:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/18/meego-handset-ui-guidelines-offer-details-aplenty-suggestion-of/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/18/meego-handset-ui-guidelines-offer-details-aplenty-suggestion-of/Jun 18th 2010 4:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/18/meego-handset-ui-guidelines-offer-details-aplenty-suggestion-of/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/18/meego-handset-ui-guidelines-offer-details-aplenty-suggestion-of/Jun 18th 2010 4:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/18/meego-handset-ui-guidelines-offer-details-aplenty-suggestion-of/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/18/meego-handset-ui-guidelines-offer-details-aplenty-suggestion-of/I personally would rather see something more original...that Emblaze Else platform looked simply amazing...it's too bad that the device is essentially vaporware. It just seems like no one is willing to take risks these days in terms of mobile UIs.]]>Jun 18th 2010 5:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/18/meego-handset-ui-guidelines-offer-details-aplenty-suggestion-of/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/18/meego-handset-ui-guidelines-offer-details-aplenty-suggestion-of/The grid view multitasking and the drag down taskbar are absolutely from Maemo5 not WebOS or Android as suggested!]]>Jun 18th 2010 5:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/18/meego-handset-ui-guidelines-offer-details-aplenty-suggestion-of/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/18/meego-handset-ui-guidelines-offer-details-aplenty-suggestion-of/Actually the grid view was already on the N900, I don't see any similarities except for the fact that you can preview the app with a small image, which the N900 did already as well.
I guess maybe the multitouch? I don't know, it seems like Engadget saw the thumbnail styled task manager and though ''WebOS!!1'' instead of ''Maemo 5!!1']]>Jun 19th 2010 6:49AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/18/meego-handset-ui-guidelines-offer-details-aplenty-suggestion-of/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/18/meego-handset-ui-guidelines-offer-details-aplenty-suggestion-of/Jun 18th 2010 4:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/18/meego-handset-ui-guidelines-offer-details-aplenty-suggestion-of/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/18/meego-handset-ui-guidelines-offer-details-aplenty-suggestion-of/I read the central account management thing.
Pretty promising, but I havent quite read through everything quite yet.]]>Jun 18th 2010 4:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/18/meego-handset-ui-guidelines-offer-details-aplenty-suggestion-of/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/18/meego-handset-ui-guidelines-offer-details-aplenty-suggestion-of/Jun 18th 2010 4:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/18/meego-handset-ui-guidelines-offer-details-aplenty-suggestion-of/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/18/meego-handset-ui-guidelines-offer-details-aplenty-suggestion-of/Jun 18th 2010 10:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/18/meego-handset-ui-guidelines-offer-details-aplenty-suggestion-of/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/18/meego-handset-ui-guidelines-offer-details-aplenty-suggestion-of/Jun 18th 2010 4:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/18/meego-handset-ui-guidelines-offer-details-aplenty-suggestion-of/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/18/meego-handset-ui-guidelines-offer-details-aplenty-suggestion-of/Jun 18th 2010 4:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/18/meego-handset-ui-guidelines-offer-details-aplenty-suggestion-of/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/18/meego-handset-ui-guidelines-offer-details-aplenty-suggestion-of/
I should imagine so - that is one of the things I find really annoying about Android on my N1. The other being the utter lack of proper task switching (cmon Google, learn from Palm and Nokia here...even Apple since their iOS4 task switcher also looks quite slick)]]>Jun 18th 2010 8:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/18/meego-handset-ui-guidelines-offer-details-aplenty-suggestion-of/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/18/meego-handset-ui-guidelines-offer-details-aplenty-suggestion-of/Jun 18th 2010 9:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/18/meego-handset-ui-guidelines-offer-details-aplenty-suggestion-of/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/18/meego-handset-ui-guidelines-offer-details-aplenty-suggestion-of/Jun 18th 2010 4:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/18/meego-handset-ui-guidelines-offer-details-aplenty-suggestion-of/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/18/meego-handset-ui-guidelines-offer-details-aplenty-suggestion-of/Unofficially yes. Officially no.]]>Jun 18th 2010 5:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/18/meego-handset-ui-guidelines-offer-details-aplenty-suggestion-of/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/18/meego-handset-ui-guidelines-offer-details-aplenty-suggestion-of/Thanks. I am an old Palm user (for the great PIM) and see the N900 as an alternative to my aging Palm hardware with the Access VM app. However, I wonder if the N900 will be superseded soon (N9?). Android and Apple are getting all the press lately but I wouldn't be surprised to see Nokia come out with a killer device. People in the States forget that Nokia still sells more than a million phones a day and has the talent to produce great devices. ]]>Jun 18th 2010 5:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/18/meego-handset-ui-guidelines-offer-details-aplenty-suggestion-of/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/18/meego-handset-ui-guidelines-offer-details-aplenty-suggestion-of/Any phone over 6 months past its release should be considered likely to be outdated soon LOL]]>Jun 18th 2010 5:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/18/meego-handset-ui-guidelines-offer-details-aplenty-suggestion-of/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/18/meego-handset-ui-guidelines-offer-details-aplenty-suggestion-of/
Educate yourself, Engadget,]]>Jun 18th 2010 5:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/18/meego-handset-ui-guidelines-offer-details-aplenty-suggestion-of/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/18/meego-handset-ui-guidelines-offer-details-aplenty-suggestion-of/Jun 18th 2010 5:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/18/meego-handset-ui-guidelines-offer-details-aplenty-suggestion-of/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/18/meego-handset-ui-guidelines-offer-details-aplenty-suggestion-of/Jun 18th 2010 5:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/18/meego-handset-ui-guidelines-offer-details-aplenty-suggestion-of/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/18/meego-handset-ui-guidelines-offer-details-aplenty-suggestion-of/Jun 18th 2010 6:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/18/meego-handset-ui-guidelines-offer-details-aplenty-suggestion-of/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/18/meego-handset-ui-guidelines-offer-details-aplenty-suggestion-of/Jun 18th 2010 7:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/18/meego-handset-ui-guidelines-offer-details-aplenty-suggestion-of/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/18/meego-handset-ui-guidelines-offer-details-aplenty-suggestion-of/Jun 18th 2010 7:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/18/meego-handset-ui-guidelines-offer-details-aplenty-suggestion-of/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/18/meego-handset-ui-guidelines-offer-details-aplenty-suggestion-of/Jun 18th 2010 7:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/18/meego-handset-ui-guidelines-offer-details-aplenty-suggestion-of/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/18/meego-handset-ui-guidelines-offer-details-aplenty-suggestion-of/What does that mean? Will it be based on Qt or GTK? RPM or deb?]]>Jun 19th 2010 9:17AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/18/meego-handset-ui-guidelines-offer-details-aplenty-suggestion-of/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/18/meego-handset-ui-guidelines-offer-details-aplenty-suggestion-of/Jun 19th 2010 10:56AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/18/meego-handset-ui-guidelines-offer-details-aplenty-suggestion-of/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/18/meego-handset-ui-guidelines-offer-details-aplenty-suggestion-of/Jun 18th 2010 6:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/18/meego-handset-ui-guidelines-offer-details-aplenty-suggestion-of/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/18/meego-handset-ui-guidelines-offer-details-aplenty-suggestion-of/Jun 18th 2010 7:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/18/meego-handset-ui-guidelines-offer-details-aplenty-suggestion-of/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/18/meego-handset-ui-guidelines-offer-details-aplenty-suggestion-of/
Are you happy to see Nokia die?]]>Jun 18th 2010 9:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/18/meego-handset-ui-guidelines-offer-details-aplenty-suggestion-of/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/18/meego-handset-ui-guidelines-offer-details-aplenty-suggestion-of/From where do you get the idea that nokia will never implement Intel hardware?
At this point they use it in their laptops.
And it would not come as a surprice if in the future Nokia will use intel hardware in phones. But the next Maemo/MeeGo device has been in development long before Intel and Nokia started working together. And MeeGo isnt ready for phones, yet, the first MeeGo phone will be based on Maemo 6.
Besides, Intel should want to keep the Arm CPU support, since nokia and intels plans are to put this in more than just their own devices, and leaving out an ARM team, could prove a disaster, since ARM is not likely to die out... unless Apple buys ARM.
MeeGo is supposed to be a cross platform OS, Computers, TVs, Mobiles. There is no other mobile OS in the works at this point that actually do this. Android does not really qualify as a computer OS.

And why should they drink tea? Youre thinking of England, Nokia is from Finland, where Beer and Vodka are the things to drink.

And you talk about WebOS, well, HP have struggled on the smartphone scene for years, and palm didnt really have that big of success, so dont count WebOS as a big OS at this point.
WinPhone is a very restricted OS, and may take long to catch on and getting up to date, so dont count too much on that OS either.
Android is growing, sure it is, but only two OSes is not that good for competition, so you should be glad if Nokia/Intel want to put this OS in your american phones and american computers!

I see no sign of desperation, just a smart move, towards getting their OS is as many devices as possible... and why should you compete when you can join forces? You will end up with a better result, with more application, better hardware support.]]>Jun 18th 2010 9:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/18/meego-handset-ui-guidelines-offer-details-aplenty-suggestion-of/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/18/meego-handset-ui-guidelines-offer-details-aplenty-suggestion-of/Jun 18th 2010 11:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/18/meego-handset-ui-guidelines-offer-details-aplenty-suggestion-of/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/18/meego-handset-ui-guidelines-offer-details-aplenty-suggestion-of/
First, your grammar is lousy.

Second, Nokia has minuscule market share in the United States, and that includes "dumb" phones.

Third, Intel sold their ARM devision (XScale) to Marvell in 2006, and they don't make any ARM compatible hardware. As Intel doesn't benefit from inclusion of ARM in their hardware, and they have no intention of creating their own Intel branded hardware (phone, TV, whatever else you blathered on about), Intel doesn't benefit in the least from inclusion of ARM tech in any form or fashion in MeeGo.

Fourth, MeeGo is nothing more than a bridging of Nokia's Maemo and Intel's Moblin, both of which are based on Linux, as is Android. There are no companies that have (publicly) committed to putting Moorestown, or it's derivatives (Intel's mobile CPU going forward) in any smartphone; the power requirements are simply too high relative to ARM's designs.

Fifth, WebOS just got purchased by one of the largest technology companies in the world, and if you actually believe HP spent a billion dollars just to put WebOS on a printer, you're nuts.

Sixth, you may call Microsoft's WinPhone7 restrictive, but they have the money and means to push platform to the masses, in a massive way. WinPhone7 also has some of the best developer tools behind it, with full support for Silverlight and games that can be written in XNA for Xbox compatibility.

Seventh, Nokia's market cap is 1/8th of where it was ten years ago. Apple's is 14 times more valuable now than it was ten years ago. Palm was dying but now they have a huge cash horde to work with (thanks to HP). Android is backed by Google, and is growing leaps and bounds in both capability and market share. Never count out Microsoft, never; they can afford to bleed money just to shut down the competition (the Xbox division has lost the company untold billions).

Eighth, and finally, I have nothing against Nokia. Nokia was the dominant player in the smartphone market for a good many years, but rather than advance their tech, they were content to rest on their laurels. All players in the smartphone market were content to rest on their laurels until the iPhone debuted. The iPhone may not be the best tech out there, it may not appeal to a lot of people, but it spurred the smartphone market forward in a huge way and development, by all relevant players, has never before come so fully and swiftly. Competition is great. It forces anyone who wants to stay relevant to move forward continuously, lest they perish to better players. I'd love to see Nokia succeed, but MeeGo isn't the answer. MeeGo is a wasteful project backed by two companies with dissimilar interests, both grasping at straws. At this point Nokia would do well to license Android, WinPhone7, or WebOS and employ a Maemo derived skin to differentiate themselves from the competition (like HTC does with SenseUI and Motorola with MotoBlur). ]]>Jun 19th 2010 1:17AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/18/meego-handset-ui-guidelines-offer-details-aplenty-suggestion-of/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/18/meego-handset-ui-guidelines-offer-details-aplenty-suggestion-of/Jun 19th 2010 2:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/18/meego-handset-ui-guidelines-offer-details-aplenty-suggestion-of/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/18/meego-handset-ui-guidelines-offer-details-aplenty-suggestion-of/
MeeGo as it presently exists can't be reviewed in any meaningful way. Rather than think of it that way, think of MeeGo as an agreement on co-developing a unified OS with a common API library henceforth. Moblin 1.0 exists. Maemo (in numerous iterations) exists. MeeGo 1.0 doesn't even run on Intel's hardware. What Intel has showed off as MeeGo is just a skin over Moblin.

As such, I don't what you're asking me. I haven't tried it, but that is in no way relevant to any points of thus made. Nokia is killing itself, and rather than place all its eggs in one basket (betting on an OS, MeeGo, that is years from viability) they had ought to boost their revenue now. The easiest and quickest way to do that would be to deploy Android on their handsets.

Nokia is all over the place. They've committed to Symbian and continues to develop it, they've committed to MeeGo and that's gotten them nowhere in a hurry, and yet their are fast being shut out of the lucrative smartphone market they once handily dominated.]]>Jun 19th 2010 2:45AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/18/meego-handset-ui-guidelines-offer-details-aplenty-suggestion-of/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/18/meego-handset-ui-guidelines-offer-details-aplenty-suggestion-of/
And what Intel has shown as MeeGo is actually MeeGo, not Moblin skinned (For the Netbooks and Tablets, go ask on MeeGo forums yourself and see, it's MeeGo, not Moblin).

They have to continue to develop Symabian, it's their OS which made Nokia what are they today. We are yet to see MeeGo running before making conclusions about its viability and usability.]]>Jun 19th 2010 3:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/18/meego-handset-ui-guidelines-offer-details-aplenty-suggestion-of/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/18/meego-handset-ui-guidelines-offer-details-aplenty-suggestion-of/
First, your grammar is lousy.

Pretty weak to attack someones form.

Second, Nokia has minuscule market share in the United States, and that includes "dumb" phones.

So? You also mention Windows Phone 7, which does not even exist yet, and WebOS, which is tiny. Being small now does not preclude future success.

Third, Intel sold their ARM devision (XScale) to Marvell in 2006, and they don't make any ARM compatible hardware. As Intel doesn't benefit from inclusion of ARM in their hardware, and they have no intention of creating their own Intel branded hardware (phone, TV, whatever else you blathered on about), Intel doesn't benefit in the least from inclusion of ARM tech in any form or fashion in MeeGo.

Really? The fact that ARM right now is more suitable for smaller mobile devices is a given, and the fact that MeeGo can run on those devices, extends Intel's reach on the OS side, it creates a bigger ecosystem, and for those who think apps are important, it helps that as well.

Fourth, MeeGo is nothing more than a bridging of Nokia's Maemo and Intel's Moblin, both of which are based on Linux, as is Android. There are no companies that have (publicly) committed to putting Moorestown, or it's derivatives (Intel's mobile CPU going forward) in any smartphone; the power requirements are simply too high relative to ARM's designs.

Right now the power requirements are too high. That can change. "Based on Linux" is hardly accurate in describing MeeGo or Moblin vis a vis Android. Android is a heavily stripped version of Linux, and Linux just serves up a VM for the rest to function in.

Fifth, WebOS just got purchased by one of the largest technology companies in the world, and if you actually believe HP spent a billion dollars just to put WebOS on a printer, you're nuts.

So you are saying that WebOS hasnt been succesfull, HP hasnt been succesful, but now together they will be succesfull? HP had that money all along. Didnt change anything.

Sixth, you may call Microsoft's WinPhone7 restrictive, but they have the money and means to push platform to the masses, in a massive way. WinPhone7 also has some of the best developer tools behind it, with full support for Silverlight and games that can be written in XNA for Xbox compatibility.

Even Nokia has the cash reserves to push this hard. Anyway, early previews of WinMo 7 say it is fairly weak, but we will have to see for ourselves.

Seventh, Nokia's market cap is 1/8th of where it was ten years ago. Apple's is 14 times more valuable now than it was ten years ago. Palm was dying but now they have a huge cash horde to work with (thanks to HP). Android is backed by Google, and is growing leaps and bounds in both capability and market share. Never count out Microsoft, never; they can afford to bleed money just to shut down the competition (the Xbox division has lost the company untold billions).

Sure, Nokia used to own the space, now they just compete in it. Thats just the way things go. Nokia also has significant cash reserves to work with. There is no doubt they arent as much top dog as they once were, but there is no reason why they cannot remain a significant player.

At this point Nokia would do well to license Android, WinPhone7, or WebOS and employ a Maemo derived skin to differentiate themselves from the competition (like HTC does with SenseUI and Motorola with MotoBlur).

That would be incredibly stupid to say the least. Do you not notice that the companies that push that approach hard are the lesser manufacturers? Both the dominant players, Nokia and Samsung, are trying to keep or build their own ecosystem. This would be terrible for the mobile space, it would turn into the pc space where everyone runs windows and the only innovation left would be faster cpu's. Its exactly what we are seeing in the Android space. A lot of BS about CPU speeds, etc. Chosing for Android now, just to prevent (temporary) share loss, would mean commoditization for Nokia, and they would be left competing on component prices. Its just not a good idea. Yes, they will lose some more share, and have difficulty matching the numbers of apps, but MeeGo really isnt about competing with Android or iOS, its the next thing, which is why your comparison before makes no sense. S^4 is for competing with Android and iOS, and by the looks of it will be very good. (according to mobile-review.com)

MeeGo as it presently exists can't be reviewed in any meaningful way.

Which is why you cannot dismiss it.

As such, I don't what you're asking me. I haven't tried it, but that is in no way relevant to any points of thus made.

Yes it is, as it means you have no way of knowing how well MeeGo functions. You say "but MeeGo isn't the answer" but miss the real strategy going on here, and have not used the OS.

Nokia is killing itself, and rather than place all its eggs in one basket (betting on an OS, MeeGo, that is years from viability) they had ought to boost their revenue now. The easiest and quickest way to do that would be to deploy Android on their handsets.

Easiest and quickest yes! Definitely. Best strategy no. Also, why do you keep forgetting S^4. MeeGo does not compete with iOS or Android.

Nokia is all over the place. They've committed to Symbian and continues to develop it, they've committed to MeeGo and that's gotten them nowhere in a hurry, and yet their are fast being shut out of the lucrative smartphone market they once handily dominated.

Well, I agree it would have been better if they would have had S^4 already. You fail to see where MeeGo is positioned so I wont go into that. Like I said before, they are taking a hit, which they expected to happen. Their strategy is sound, but they need to speed it up. The longer it takes to execute, the more share they lose. But, they are not being shut out. I think they will do well with S^4, and to a lesser extent S^3. MeeGo really is a different animal. If you look at the stuff the N8 does, hdmi & bluetooth mouse & keyboard, and then think of the new MeeGo device, on an U8500 platform, its really a small version of a laptop. Not Android, iOS WebOS can follow there.

I am not sure Nokia will "rise again". I just think your reasoning is flawed and you are missing the bigger picture.]]>Jun 19th 2010 3:45AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/18/meego-handset-ui-guidelines-offer-details-aplenty-suggestion-of/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/18/meego-handset-ui-guidelines-offer-details-aplenty-suggestion-of/
"Second, Nokia has minuscule market share in the United States, and that includes "dumb" phones."

Yeah and US has 10% of total phone market. No one want's to voluntarily give 10% of customers away, but I think you overestimate the impact of US markets to Nokia. Other thing about US market is that it's already somewhat saturated. In Asia especially there's 3-4 times more _new_ phone users than in states. As I see by concentrating only to US markets would gain much less in the long run than making sure Asians know and want Nokia phones now.

Of course gaining market in the US doesn't hurt either.]]>Jun 19th 2010 4:59AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/18/meego-handset-ui-guidelines-offer-details-aplenty-suggestion-of/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/18/meego-handset-ui-guidelines-offer-details-aplenty-suggestion-of/
The smartphone market is NOT saturated in any market in any region. The smartphone segment of the overall phone market is growing leaps and bounds and that is showing no signs of slowing. People expect more from their devices. Nokia's phones have the best cameras, but the rest of the "crap" they throw in would only keep the Japanese and Koreans happy. The rest of the world (that can afford these smartphones: US and Europe) demand more apps and higher quality software. Apple's stock continues to rise because every market they participate in is NOT yet saturated (except for mp3 players, but that whole market is evaporating thanks to convergence devices). Nokia needs to focus on one OS, not two. Either it's Symbian or it's Maemo/Meego. Pick one. And to those who think Meego is scalable from smartphone to full blown PC, you're nuts. That's not the intention of the platform. Meego is designed for mobiles and low power power / light usage netbooks and tablets. Meego want's to be what iOS and Android already are. It's just that simple.]]>Jun 19th 2010 5:14AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/18/meego-handset-ui-guidelines-offer-details-aplenty-suggestion-of/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/18/meego-handset-ui-guidelines-offer-details-aplenty-suggestion-of/Good point, but only when they have the potential of MeeGo!]]>Jun 19th 2010 5:52AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/18/meego-handset-ui-guidelines-offer-details-aplenty-suggestion-of/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/18/meego-handset-ui-guidelines-offer-details-aplenty-suggestion-of/Android and iOS are not real computer OSs. Tablets running those OSs are very limited, compared to a tablet running a real OS.

MeeGo is made to scale from mobile devices to real computers. Its a lightweight OS, but there is nothing wrong with that, if its designed so that it works as a computer OS. Android and iOS are not made that way.

If intel refuses to let MeeGo run on ARM, then they limit the spread, and that would be a stupid move, since the with of the system is the whole idea.

A vision of MeeGo, by intel.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ub_cwsJnQps

Nokia has more than 1 OS, cause there are a lot of different kind of devices.
How many Android running, non toucscreen phones have you seen?
Not every phone has to bee a touchphone with a big screen. X10 mini has a small screen, but SE had to skin the whole OS, and running apps can be a problem.

Symbian is a good OS for non touchscreen phones. Its also an good os for cheap phones. Android and iOS are meant for devices with quite the power under the hood, so it will take a while for those components to be cheap enough. And with every new version of Android and iOS, they have higer requirements.
Windows Phone 7 has very high requirements.
Web OS, is a pretty graphical intense OS, as well.

Symbian on the other hand, is not filled with graphical effects, thus runs on lower hardware requirements.
It has done full multitasking for years, on devices with pretty weak hardware. It does blutooth transfers... It has had support for millions of colours for years. videocalling, flashlite... for the non touchscreen version, there is a lot of program out there.. has been long before applications became a trendy word in the mobile industry.
So it might look cheap, but it runs on low hardware requirements. It can be used in phones with different king of formfactor. It is very capable as a smartphone os, in terms of functionality.

MeeGo comes in as a OS that can run on devices with high hardware requirements, and thus deliver fancy effects, real websurfing, and so on. And not only that, it can be used in different kind of devices, meaning that you can use the same programs that you like on your computer, your phone and your tv.
MeeGo is an os, that is suppose to scale very well, and is suppose to give you great interactions betwene different of devices.]]>Jun 19th 2010 9:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/18/meego-handset-ui-guidelines-offer-details-aplenty-suggestion-of/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/18/meego-handset-ui-guidelines-offer-details-aplenty-suggestion-of/Jun 18th 2010 7:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/18/meego-handset-ui-guidelines-offer-details-aplenty-suggestion-of/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/18/meego-handset-ui-guidelines-offer-details-aplenty-suggestion-of/
Symbian^3 also has the card view in case you can't wait for the N9 ;-)]]>Jun 18th 2010 7:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/18/meego-handset-ui-guidelines-offer-details-aplenty-suggestion-of/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/18/meego-handset-ui-guidelines-offer-details-aplenty-suggestion-of/Jun 18th 2010 8:01PM