http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/19/video-call-on-fring-for-android-bringing-htc-evo-4g-and-dell-st/ Engadget Comments for 3G video call on Fring for Android: bringing HTC EVO 4G and Dell Streak together (hands-on) http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/19/video-call-on-fring-for-android-bringing-htc-evo-4g-and-dell-st/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/19/video-call-on-fring-for-android-bringing-htc-evo-4g-and-dell-st/Jun 19th 2010 4:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/19/video-call-on-fring-for-android-bringing-htc-evo-4g-and-dell-st/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/19/video-call-on-fring-for-android-bringing-htc-evo-4g-and-dell-st/it may be just me, but i think facetime might be less 'open' than apple wants it to seem. ]]>Jun 19th 2010 4:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/19/video-call-on-fring-for-android-bringing-htc-evo-4g-and-dell-st/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/19/video-call-on-fring-for-android-bringing-htc-evo-4g-and-dell-st/Yeah, Feck that Shat!]]>Jun 19th 2010 4:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/19/video-call-on-fring-for-android-bringing-htc-evo-4g-and-dell-st/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/19/video-call-on-fring-for-android-bringing-htc-evo-4g-and-dell-st/Wow, it'd be nice of the post I'm responding to doesn't magically disappear. It makes my post look silly.]]>Jun 19th 2010 4:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/19/video-call-on-fring-for-android-bringing-htc-evo-4g-and-dell-st/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/19/video-call-on-fring-for-android-bringing-htc-evo-4g-and-dell-st/
Open standard doesn't mean open source...]]>Jun 19th 2010 4:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/19/video-call-on-fring-for-android-bringing-htc-evo-4g-and-dell-st/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/19/video-call-on-fring-for-android-bringing-htc-evo-4g-and-dell-st/The only reason it's wifi only is because AT&T has a garbage network.]]>Jun 19th 2010 4:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/19/video-call-on-fring-for-android-bringing-htc-evo-4g-and-dell-st/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/19/video-call-on-fring-for-android-bringing-htc-evo-4g-and-dell-st/Also, does facetime work with ichat (desktop users)?
Cause fring most certainly does since it uses Skype.]]>Jun 19th 2010 4:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/19/video-call-on-fring-for-android-bringing-htc-evo-4g-and-dell-st/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/19/video-call-on-fring-for-android-bringing-htc-evo-4g-and-dell-st/Jun 19th 2010 4:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/19/video-call-on-fring-for-android-bringing-htc-evo-4g-and-dell-st/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/19/video-call-on-fring-for-android-bringing-htc-evo-4g-and-dell-st/
Take that FaceTime!]]>Jun 19th 2010 4:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/19/video-call-on-fring-for-android-bringing-htc-evo-4g-and-dell-st/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/19/video-call-on-fring-for-android-bringing-htc-evo-4g-and-dell-st/Jun 19th 2010 4:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/19/video-call-on-fring-for-android-bringing-htc-evo-4g-and-dell-st/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/19/video-call-on-fring-for-android-bringing-htc-evo-4g-and-dell-st/I think it was smart of Apple to make all their Facetime promo vids with people that are indoors. Its not like people can get god wifi outdoors.

I think this Fring will be way more popular. ]]>Jun 19th 2010 4:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/19/video-call-on-fring-for-android-bringing-htc-evo-4g-and-dell-st/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/19/video-call-on-fring-for-android-bringing-htc-evo-4g-and-dell-st/What do you mean when you say : "it may be just me, but i think facetime might be less 'open' than apple wants it to seem."
Wanna share ?

And by the way, why the insane screen-estate waste? 50% of the screen is just white... I guess a full screen view wouldn´t look that good...

Oh, and yes , Apple, iPhone uzw. sucks. Yada yada. *pffffff....*]]>Jun 19th 2010 4:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/19/video-call-on-fring-for-android-bringing-htc-evo-4g-and-dell-st/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/19/video-call-on-fring-for-android-bringing-htc-evo-4g-and-dell-st/

any anti apple comment that i post gets erased

engadget must have entered a filter.]]>Jun 19th 2010 4:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/19/video-call-on-fring-for-android-bringing-htc-evo-4g-and-dell-st/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/19/video-call-on-fring-for-android-bringing-htc-evo-4g-and-dell-st/
And all of a sudden video chat is a must have on smartphones. And also the most important feature for smartphone comparison and dominance. ]]>Jun 19th 2010 4:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/19/video-call-on-fring-for-android-bringing-htc-evo-4g-and-dell-st/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/19/video-call-on-fring-for-android-bringing-htc-evo-4g-and-dell-st/Jun 19th 2010 4:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/19/video-call-on-fring-for-android-bringing-htc-evo-4g-and-dell-st/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/19/video-call-on-fring-for-android-bringing-htc-evo-4g-and-dell-st/
in fact the apple promo does show a woman videoing outdoors]]>Jun 19th 2010 4:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/19/video-call-on-fring-for-android-bringing-htc-evo-4g-and-dell-st/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/19/video-call-on-fring-for-android-bringing-htc-evo-4g-and-dell-st/
Nah, it's not Engadget. They are cool. It's your computer that got sick of your trolling. ]]>Jun 19th 2010 4:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/19/video-call-on-fring-for-android-bringing-htc-evo-4g-and-dell-st/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/19/video-call-on-fring-for-android-bringing-htc-evo-4g-and-dell-st/

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Yeah because this is considered trolling.]]>Jun 19th 2010 4:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/19/video-call-on-fring-for-android-bringing-htc-evo-4g-and-dell-st/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/19/video-call-on-fring-for-android-bringing-htc-evo-4g-and-dell-st/
Ok, "attempted trolling"...
there... fixed! :)]]>Jun 19th 2010 4:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/19/video-call-on-fring-for-android-bringing-htc-evo-4g-and-dell-st/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/19/video-call-on-fring-for-android-bringing-htc-evo-4g-and-dell-st/1: "open standard" does not mean standard anyway. its just a word to make you believe its a standard. It's 100% unstandard, but the specs are open.

2: XMPP is standard, its widely used, supports audio/video and theres many open source implementations as well as closed source ones. its also technically sound, people just aren't too much into video because its not been marketed a lot]]>Jun 19th 2010 4:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/19/video-call-on-fring-for-android-bringing-htc-evo-4g-and-dell-st/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/19/video-call-on-fring-for-android-bringing-htc-evo-4g-and-dell-st/
Who the hell wants video calling on a cellphone anyway? Not only is it a silly feature, but I can't imagine battery life being in on the fun.]]>Jun 19th 2010 4:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/19/video-call-on-fring-for-android-bringing-htc-evo-4g-and-dell-st/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/19/video-call-on-fring-for-android-bringing-htc-evo-4g-and-dell-st/Jun 19th 2010 4:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/19/video-call-on-fring-for-android-bringing-htc-evo-4g-and-dell-st/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/19/video-call-on-fring-for-android-bringing-htc-evo-4g-and-dell-st/Jun 19th 2010 5:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/19/video-call-on-fring-for-android-bringing-htc-evo-4g-and-dell-st/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/19/video-call-on-fring-for-android-bringing-htc-evo-4g-and-dell-st/Jun 19th 2010 5:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/19/video-call-on-fring-for-android-bringing-htc-evo-4g-and-dell-st/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/19/video-call-on-fring-for-android-bringing-htc-evo-4g-and-dell-st/Jun 19th 2010 5:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/19/video-call-on-fring-for-android-bringing-htc-evo-4g-and-dell-st/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/19/video-call-on-fring-for-android-bringing-htc-evo-4g-and-dell-st/
So then you think Apple is going to port FaceTime to Android?..

Also, X264 is open source, which is why it's supported on everything]]>Jun 19th 2010 5:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/19/video-call-on-fring-for-android-bringing-htc-evo-4g-and-dell-st/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/19/video-call-on-fring-for-android-bringing-htc-evo-4g-and-dell-st/Jun 19th 2010 5:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/19/video-call-on-fring-for-android-bringing-htc-evo-4g-and-dell-st/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/19/video-call-on-fring-for-android-bringing-htc-evo-4g-and-dell-st/Jun 19th 2010 5:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/19/video-call-on-fring-for-android-bringing-htc-evo-4g-and-dell-st/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/19/video-call-on-fring-for-android-bringing-htc-evo-4g-and-dell-st/??? I don´t think videochat is must have at all, if that´s what you meant. Was it ?

]]>Jun 19th 2010 5:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/19/video-call-on-fring-for-android-bringing-htc-evo-4g-and-dell-st/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/19/video-call-on-fring-for-android-bringing-htc-evo-4g-and-dell-st/Jun 19th 2010 5:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/19/video-call-on-fring-for-android-bringing-htc-evo-4g-and-dell-st/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/19/video-call-on-fring-for-android-bringing-htc-evo-4g-and-dell-st/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/hill60/4714919247/in/set-72157624311740988/]]>Jun 19th 2010 5:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/19/video-call-on-fring-for-android-bringing-htc-evo-4g-and-dell-st/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/19/video-call-on-fring-for-android-bringing-htc-evo-4g-and-dell-st/Jun 19th 2010 6:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/19/video-call-on-fring-for-android-bringing-htc-evo-4g-and-dell-st/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/19/video-call-on-fring-for-android-bringing-htc-evo-4g-and-dell-st/Jun 19th 2010 6:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/19/video-call-on-fring-for-android-bringing-htc-evo-4g-and-dell-st/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/19/video-call-on-fring-for-android-bringing-htc-evo-4g-and-dell-st/Jun 19th 2010 6:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/19/video-call-on-fring-for-android-bringing-htc-evo-4g-and-dell-st/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/19/video-call-on-fring-for-android-bringing-htc-evo-4g-and-dell-st/Jun 19th 2010 6:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/19/video-call-on-fring-for-android-bringing-htc-evo-4g-and-dell-st/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/19/video-call-on-fring-for-android-bringing-htc-evo-4g-and-dell-st/
Too bad you can't delete posts haha. ]]>Jun 19th 2010 6:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/19/video-call-on-fring-for-android-bringing-htc-evo-4g-and-dell-st/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/19/video-call-on-fring-for-android-bringing-htc-evo-4g-and-dell-st/
I agree, the video chat is not what is going to make me buy a phone, I've had phones in the past with it and never used it. Maybe it will be adopted this go around, lol like 3D is said to finnaly be adopted.]]>Jun 19th 2010 7:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/19/video-call-on-fring-for-android-bringing-htc-evo-4g-and-dell-st/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/19/video-call-on-fring-for-android-bringing-htc-evo-4g-and-dell-st/Jun 19th 2010 7:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/19/video-call-on-fring-for-android-bringing-htc-evo-4g-and-dell-st/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/19/video-call-on-fring-for-android-bringing-htc-evo-4g-and-dell-st/I love how apple acts as if they are the first to create video chat.

my shitty 200$ nokia from 2006 does this, im not sure what the big deal is about a WIFI only, IPHONE - IPHONE service.

My understanding is Android can do this a number of ways, through the usual video chat method (liike my nokia) which are supported and charged for by the carriers, and also the newer net using methods (carriers dont touch these, it just takes bandwidth, and also works in wifi).

Does anyone know if that is true?]]>Jun 19th 2010 8:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/19/video-call-on-fring-for-android-bringing-htc-evo-4g-and-dell-st/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/19/video-call-on-fring-for-android-bringing-htc-evo-4g-and-dell-st/
That's a stupid response. So do you suggest banning all the foods you don't like?]]>Jun 19th 2010 9:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/19/video-call-on-fring-for-android-bringing-htc-evo-4g-and-dell-st/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/19/video-call-on-fring-for-android-bringing-htc-evo-4g-and-dell-st/]]>Jun 19th 2010 9:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/19/video-call-on-fring-for-android-bringing-htc-evo-4g-and-dell-st/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/19/video-call-on-fring-for-android-bringing-htc-evo-4g-and-dell-st/Jun 19th 2010 9:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/19/video-call-on-fring-for-android-bringing-htc-evo-4g-and-dell-st/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/19/video-call-on-fring-for-android-bringing-htc-evo-4g-and-dell-st/The Dell Streak is a phenomenal device. Fantastic large screen, really works well with the engadget app. Tendency, for the abck cover to fall off and shut the device off sometimes. (Hey, Dell what's with that!!! - pretty poor stuff.)

No idea why the UK got the Streak first, but loving it - unless they were testing market acceptance with that back cover ;-).

No cases available yet - a real issue. The silk puch doesn't cut it.]]>Jun 20th 2010 7:02AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/19/video-call-on-fring-for-android-bringing-htc-evo-4g-and-dell-st/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/19/video-call-on-fring-for-android-bringing-htc-evo-4g-and-dell-st/
And I'm sure it will be the same with video calling. It has been there for years, but nobody uses it. Why? Because it has low quality, it was expensive, didn't always work as expected, was complex to use and so on. Apple, again, is the first who built video calling in a way that everybody can use it, in a way that it actually really works and is really fun to use. When i just look at this horrible Fring UI for video calling I want to puke, I mean, come on, this looks awful. Have you seen screenshots of FaceTime? THIS is how it should look. And you know why FaceTime is limited to Wi-Fi? Because only with Wi-Fi it is guaranteed that it really works - that there is a good picture with good audio and with less delay. And this is all that Apple is al about - they build something only when it really, REALLY works.]]>Jun 20th 2010 9:34AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/19/video-call-on-fring-for-android-bringing-htc-evo-4g-and-dell-st/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/19/video-call-on-fring-for-android-bringing-htc-evo-4g-and-dell-st/Jun 20th 2010 12:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/19/video-call-on-fring-for-android-bringing-htc-evo-4g-and-dell-st/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/19/video-call-on-fring-for-android-bringing-htc-evo-4g-and-dell-st/Jun 20th 2010 12:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/19/video-call-on-fring-for-android-bringing-htc-evo-4g-and-dell-st/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/19/video-call-on-fring-for-android-bringing-htc-evo-4g-and-dell-st/
It's not that the Facetime protocol isn't open. It's just than Apple introduced another random voice call protocol that literally NOTHING else uses when there have been voice call protocols that are popular, and works for like a decade or more.

We'll have to see how well Facetime works away from Apple's oversaturated Wi-Fi at WWDC, but I can't imagine it being much better than Skype or Fringe, besides being able to switch from one camera to the other which I'm not sure that other programs can do.]]>Jun 20th 2010 12:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/19/video-call-on-fring-for-android-bringing-htc-evo-4g-and-dell-st/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/19/video-call-on-fring-for-android-bringing-htc-evo-4g-and-dell-st/Jun 20th 2010 6:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/19/video-call-on-fring-for-android-bringing-htc-evo-4g-and-dell-st/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/19/video-call-on-fring-for-android-bringing-htc-evo-4g-and-dell-st/
Let's face it, Android only exists for suckers locked into non-AT&T vendors and clowns who think they're too cool for the Apple Store.]]>Jun 20th 2010 8:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/19/video-call-on-fring-for-android-bringing-htc-evo-4g-and-dell-st/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/19/video-call-on-fring-for-android-bringing-htc-evo-4g-and-dell-st/
You guys have not dont your homework....Apple has stated in their press that ichat video needs high bandwidth and only works good on high bandwidth. I am pretty sure that facetime is something like ichat video. True Att network is garbage BUT facetime seems to me to be ichat lite but still needs the high bandwidth.]]>Jun 21st 2010 10:59AM