http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/htc-running-low-on-amoled-stock-will-add-slcd-to-the-mix-for-so/ Engadget Comments for HTC running low on AMOLED stock, will add SLCD to the mix for some models http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/htc-running-low-on-amoled-stock-will-add-slcd-to-the-mix-for-so/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/htc-running-low-on-amoled-stock-will-add-slcd-to-the-mix-for-so/Jun 25th 2010 7:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/htc-running-low-on-amoled-stock-will-add-slcd-to-the-mix-for-so/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/htc-running-low-on-amoled-stock-will-add-slcd-to-the-mix-for-so/
I'll take the SLCD. Daytime viewing FTW.]]>Jun 25th 2010 7:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/htc-running-low-on-amoled-stock-will-add-slcd-to-the-mix-for-so/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/htc-running-low-on-amoled-stock-will-add-slcd-to-the-mix-for-so/Jun 25th 2010 8:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/htc-running-low-on-amoled-stock-will-add-slcd-to-the-mix-for-so/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/htc-running-low-on-amoled-stock-will-add-slcd-to-the-mix-for-so/I like my n1 display but really the daytime viewing is bad if it isn't set at the brightest level. Wish I had the iphone4 display on my n1.]]>Jun 25th 2010 8:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/htc-running-low-on-amoled-stock-will-add-slcd-to-the-mix-for-so/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/htc-running-low-on-amoled-stock-will-add-slcd-to-the-mix-for-so/Jun 25th 2010 8:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/htc-running-low-on-amoled-stock-will-add-slcd-to-the-mix-for-so/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/htc-running-low-on-amoled-stock-will-add-slcd-to-the-mix-for-so/Jun 25th 2010 9:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/htc-running-low-on-amoled-stock-will-add-slcd-to-the-mix-for-so/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/htc-running-low-on-amoled-stock-will-add-slcd-to-the-mix-for-so/
Anyone claiming AMOLED isn't beautiful has not looked at one. They are just repeating what they've read about pentile displays. I have seen pretty much no other display that has looked as bright and nice as my Incredible. Nothing has had no where near the blacks or whites or the rich colors. I can understand HTC dropping AMOLED because of shortages. They have lost out on a tremendous number of Incredible sales and I believe the Droid X came out earlier because Verizon was tired of waiting. But this subtle attempt to now discredit AMOLED simply because a particular overhyped display that is supposed to be better than AMOLED isn't.]]>Jun 25th 2010 9:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/htc-running-low-on-amoled-stock-will-add-slcd-to-the-mix-for-so/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/htc-running-low-on-amoled-stock-will-add-slcd-to-the-mix-for-so/I have no real opinion on SLCD vs. AMOLED. My comment was purely about the sub-pixel arrangement of PenTile displays. It makes text (especially) appear less sharp. There are also PenTile LCDs (OLPC comes to mind) and I wouldn't want one of those either. If these phones were using a normal RGB arrangement in their AMOLED displays I would absolutely say the move to LCD is a downgrade.]]>Jun 25th 2010 9:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/htc-running-low-on-amoled-stock-will-add-slcd-to-the-mix-for-so/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/htc-running-low-on-amoled-stock-will-add-slcd-to-the-mix-for-so/Jun 25th 2010 9:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/htc-running-low-on-amoled-stock-will-add-slcd-to-the-mix-for-so/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/htc-running-low-on-amoled-stock-will-add-slcd-to-the-mix-for-so/
Your'e just holding it wrong.]]>Jun 25th 2010 9:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/htc-running-low-on-amoled-stock-will-add-slcd-to-the-mix-for-so/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/htc-running-low-on-amoled-stock-will-add-slcd-to-the-mix-for-so/
EXACTLY!

AMOLED's are gorgeous, and represent will the LCD TV market will go when the prices drop. two words: True Blacks.

But what does it for me is the low power consumption. (especially using a black wallpaper)

I have both the droid incredible and moto droid.

the moto droid with the tft lcd display uses aproximately 30-50% of battery use everyday. while the droid incredible (now rooted) display uses 5-15% of the overall battery use day in an out.

enough said!]]>Jun 25th 2010 10:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/htc-running-low-on-amoled-stock-will-add-slcd-to-the-mix-for-so/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/htc-running-low-on-amoled-stock-will-add-slcd-to-the-mix-for-so/Jun 25th 2010 10:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/htc-running-low-on-amoled-stock-will-add-slcd-to-the-mix-for-so/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/htc-running-low-on-amoled-stock-will-add-slcd-to-the-mix-for-so/Jun 25th 2010 11:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/htc-running-low-on-amoled-stock-will-add-slcd-to-the-mix-for-so/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/htc-running-low-on-amoled-stock-will-add-slcd-to-the-mix-for-so/
Actually, it's SLCD and not LCD. ]]>Jun 26th 2010 12:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/htc-running-low-on-amoled-stock-will-add-slcd-to-the-mix-for-so/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/htc-running-low-on-amoled-stock-will-add-slcd-to-the-mix-for-so/
Since when do you sit outside in direct sunlight watching TV? What was that? Never? Nice.

AMOLED has some serious problems with Grayscale and has reared it's ugly head repeatedly in articles on many websites. I have had quite a lot of exposure to these displays, and while they were impressive about a year ago, technology has moved ahead at a rapid pace with regard to LCD displays. To sit there and say "AMOLED is the best" is to ignore that the application dictates the usefulness of a technology.

I know that I would prefer correct replication of all colours rather than just making black really black and bright colours very vivid. The amount of colour bleed when you start to get into darker tones is quite significant on most AMOLED displays on phones. This is not even touching on other serious problems with OLED displays (burn in, blue degredations, etc).

If you're going to sit there and type out an essay on AMOLED, at least get your facts right. You have obviously never had to work in a position where you have to support these displays. You're coming across as a fanboy who won't face up to the facts - OLED displays have their place, but they really aren't the be all and end all of display technology.

I can't say I've heard of an Eizo display being AMOLED, and I doubt they will ever move to this technology. Why? Bad colour replication.]]>Jun 26th 2010 12:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/htc-running-low-on-amoled-stock-will-add-slcd-to-the-mix-for-so/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/htc-running-low-on-amoled-stock-will-add-slcd-to-the-mix-for-so/Jun 26th 2010 2:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/htc-running-low-on-amoled-stock-will-add-slcd-to-the-mix-for-so/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/htc-running-low-on-amoled-stock-will-add-slcd-to-the-mix-for-so/http://phandroid.com/2010/06/25/has-htc-been-pulling-a-switcheroo-on-screens-with-recent-units-due-to-component-shortages/

Phandroid reports that there are already two different versions of the HTC Evo - first with an LCD screen from Novatek and the second and LCD screen from Epson.

They have a photo comparison. New Epson looks to be better IMO cause it has no purple tint like the Novatek.]]>Jun 26th 2010 2:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/htc-running-low-on-amoled-stock-will-add-slcd-to-the-mix-for-so/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/htc-running-low-on-amoled-stock-will-add-slcd-to-the-mix-for-so/Jun 26th 2010 4:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/htc-running-low-on-amoled-stock-will-add-slcd-to-the-mix-for-so/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/htc-running-low-on-amoled-stock-will-add-slcd-to-the-mix-for-so/
Your Evo?

Oh that's right. You don't have one.]]>Jun 26th 2010 5:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/htc-running-low-on-amoled-stock-will-add-slcd-to-the-mix-for-so/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/htc-running-low-on-amoled-stock-will-add-slcd-to-the-mix-for-so/just give something i can see outside while working]]>Jun 26th 2010 7:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/htc-running-low-on-amoled-stock-will-add-slcd-to-the-mix-for-so/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/htc-running-low-on-amoled-stock-will-add-slcd-to-the-mix-for-so/
I'll give you one FACT: AMOLED has just started whereas LCD has been around for quite a long time now. Considering this fact, which one is most likely to improve the most over the next 5years? That's right.

LCD and AMOLED are both great, none needs bashing.]]>Jun 29th 2010 11:55AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/htc-running-low-on-amoled-stock-will-add-slcd-to-the-mix-for-so/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/htc-running-low-on-amoled-stock-will-add-slcd-to-the-mix-for-so/Aug 4th 2010 12:29AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/htc-running-low-on-amoled-stock-will-add-slcd-to-the-mix-for-so/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/htc-running-low-on-amoled-stock-will-add-slcd-to-the-mix-for-so/I shouldn't that drive the price of the phones down because of the cheaper display? ]]>Jun 25th 2010 7:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/htc-running-low-on-amoled-stock-will-add-slcd-to-the-mix-for-so/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/htc-running-low-on-amoled-stock-will-add-slcd-to-the-mix-for-so/
Doubt it. Mid life cycle changes aren't cheap.]]>Jun 25th 2010 7:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/htc-running-low-on-amoled-stock-will-add-slcd-to-the-mix-for-so/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/htc-running-low-on-amoled-stock-will-add-slcd-to-the-mix-for-so/I'm happy that I have the Desire version AMOLED ]]>Jun 25th 2010 7:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/htc-running-low-on-amoled-stock-will-add-slcd-to-the-mix-for-so/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/htc-running-low-on-amoled-stock-will-add-slcd-to-the-mix-for-so/Jun 25th 2010 8:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/htc-running-low-on-amoled-stock-will-add-slcd-to-the-mix-for-so/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/htc-running-low-on-amoled-stock-will-add-slcd-to-the-mix-for-so/Jun 25th 2010 8:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/htc-running-low-on-amoled-stock-will-add-slcd-to-the-mix-for-so/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/htc-running-low-on-amoled-stock-will-add-slcd-to-the-mix-for-so/The display on the Nexus One is poor. It has the PenTile arrangement which makes its effective resolution something around 640x360. I went from a Touch Pro 2 (800x480 LCD) to the Nexus One and my first impression upon bootup was "This Screen sucks." This isn't to say AMOLED is bad, it is the AMOLEDs with PenTile pixel arrangements that suck.]]>Jun 25th 2010 8:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/htc-running-low-on-amoled-stock-will-add-slcd-to-the-mix-for-so/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/htc-running-low-on-amoled-stock-will-add-slcd-to-the-mix-for-so/Jun 25th 2010 8:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/htc-running-low-on-amoled-stock-will-add-slcd-to-the-mix-for-so/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/htc-running-low-on-amoled-stock-will-add-slcd-to-the-mix-for-so/Peter you can just stop repeting your self over and over again. We know your opinion now.]]>Jun 25th 2010 8:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/htc-running-low-on-amoled-stock-will-add-slcd-to-the-mix-for-so/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/htc-running-low-on-amoled-stock-will-add-slcd-to-the-mix-for-so/
You call the N1's screen POOR?! Give me a break!! Arrrgh I quit the internet.]]>Jun 25th 2010 8:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/htc-running-low-on-amoled-stock-will-add-slcd-to-the-mix-for-so/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/htc-running-low-on-amoled-stock-will-add-slcd-to-the-mix-for-so/OMG the Colors the Colors! Will someone think of the colors!
Who gives a shit about the colors? It is a phone that is used for COMMUNICATION. I would rather have my text more readable than have the colors on a picture "pop out."]]>Jun 26th 2010 1:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/htc-running-low-on-amoled-stock-will-add-slcd-to-the-mix-for-so/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/htc-running-low-on-amoled-stock-will-add-slcd-to-the-mix-for-so/I measure it by the effective resolution. I want 800x480 red, green, and blue pixels. I don't want 800x480 green pixels and way less red and blue pixels. Seriously put an LCD side by side with the crap AMOLED in the HTC phones. They look like garbage.
I love HTC phones and have had HTC phones for years, but I won't lie and say the AMOLED screens are good when they just suck.]]>Jun 26th 2010 1:45AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/htc-running-low-on-amoled-stock-will-add-slcd-to-the-mix-for-so/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/htc-running-low-on-amoled-stock-will-add-slcd-to-the-mix-for-so/
"The display on the Nexus One is poor. It has the PenTile arrangement which makes its effective resolution something around 640x360. I went from a Touch Pro 2 (800x480 LCD) to the Nexus One and my first impression upon bootup was "This Screen sucks." This isn't to say AMOLED is bad, it is the AMOLEDs with PenTile pixel arrangements that suck." ]]>Jun 26th 2010 12:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/htc-running-low-on-amoled-stock-will-add-slcd-to-the-mix-for-so/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/htc-running-low-on-amoled-stock-will-add-slcd-to-the-mix-for-so/
I wonder if this would explain why recent incredibles have been seeming to have different screen characteristics (not nearly as vibrant)... ]]>Jun 25th 2010 8:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/htc-running-low-on-amoled-stock-will-add-slcd-to-the-mix-for-so/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/htc-running-low-on-amoled-stock-will-add-slcd-to-the-mix-for-so/And obviously YOU haven't compared a PenTile AMOLED with a LCD of the same resolution side by side. The LCD is far clearer. A normal pixel arrangement AMOLED would probably be better, but not the PenTile ones HTC is currently using.]]>Jun 25th 2010 8:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/htc-running-low-on-amoled-stock-will-add-slcd-to-the-mix-for-so/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/htc-running-low-on-amoled-stock-will-add-slcd-to-the-mix-for-so/
So something that's supposed to keep me in contact with others is virtually useless when...I'm away from people.]]>Jun 25th 2010 8:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/htc-running-low-on-amoled-stock-will-add-slcd-to-the-mix-for-so/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/htc-running-low-on-amoled-stock-will-add-slcd-to-the-mix-for-so/
Not following ya... It is harder to see my Inc's screen in the sun, but not impossible, and certainly usable. Everywhere else it is gorgeous beyond words, I think people make too much of this without actually seeing them in person...]]>Jun 25th 2010 8:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/htc-running-low-on-amoled-stock-will-add-slcd-to-the-mix-for-so/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/htc-running-low-on-amoled-stock-will-add-slcd-to-the-mix-for-so/I must be missing something because I really am not impressed by the colors on my Nexus' screen. Sure they're better, but it's not worth sacrificing sharpness for.]]>Jun 26th 2010 1:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/htc-running-low-on-amoled-stock-will-add-slcd-to-the-mix-for-so/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/htc-running-low-on-amoled-stock-will-add-slcd-to-the-mix-for-so/Jun 26th 2010 2:10AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/htc-running-low-on-amoled-stock-will-add-slcd-to-the-mix-for-so/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/htc-running-low-on-amoled-stock-will-add-slcd-to-the-mix-for-so/Jun 26th 2010 2:23AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/htc-running-low-on-amoled-stock-will-add-slcd-to-the-mix-for-so/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/htc-running-low-on-amoled-stock-will-add-slcd-to-the-mix-for-so/
I agree. I think that Chris is being a bit previous when he says that the latest LCD screens are as good. I mean they're better than they were (although good LCD screens have always been acceptable) and if you take the iPhone 4's it's really quite good from a sharpness point of view but it is in no way as good as representing colour as a decent OLED.

Sorry, it just isn't.]]>Jun 26th 2010 5:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/htc-running-low-on-amoled-stock-will-add-slcd-to-the-mix-for-so/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/htc-running-low-on-amoled-stock-will-add-slcd-to-the-mix-for-so/Jun 25th 2010 8:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/htc-running-low-on-amoled-stock-will-add-slcd-to-the-mix-for-so/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/htc-running-low-on-amoled-stock-will-add-slcd-to-the-mix-for-so/Jun 25th 2010 8:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/htc-running-low-on-amoled-stock-will-add-slcd-to-the-mix-for-so/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/htc-running-low-on-amoled-stock-will-add-slcd-to-the-mix-for-so/Prepare for disappointment. The AMOLEDs HTC is currently using are the poor PenTile arrangement variety.]]>Jun 25th 2010 8:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/htc-running-low-on-amoled-stock-will-add-slcd-to-the-mix-for-so/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/htc-running-low-on-amoled-stock-will-add-slcd-to-the-mix-for-so/I know I've read up on it. The main thing being colour accuracy, but I stare at a TN monitor all day and I'm pretty sure its not 100% accurate either so its not a big deal. Tech will progress and AMOLED will only get better. ]]>Jun 25th 2010 8:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/htc-running-low-on-amoled-stock-will-add-slcd-to-the-mix-for-so/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/htc-running-low-on-amoled-stock-will-add-slcd-to-the-mix-for-so/Jun 25th 2010 9:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/htc-running-low-on-amoled-stock-will-add-slcd-to-the-mix-for-so/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/htc-running-low-on-amoled-stock-will-add-slcd-to-the-mix-for-so/Jun 25th 2010 9:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/htc-running-low-on-amoled-stock-will-add-slcd-to-the-mix-for-so/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/htc-running-low-on-amoled-stock-will-add-slcd-to-the-mix-for-so/Don't worry about colors. The colors are great. Sharpness on the other hand, is not so good.

@angermeans
Read all you want, but put the two side by side and you'll see how much sharper an RGB LCD is over a PenTile AMOLED. I believe that in a communication device, text, which is used to communicate more than colors, is more important.]]>Jun 26th 2010 1:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/htc-running-low-on-amoled-stock-will-add-slcd-to-the-mix-for-so/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/htc-running-low-on-amoled-stock-will-add-slcd-to-the-mix-for-so/Jun 25th 2010 8:04PM