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Same antenna problem with Google's Nexus One for months:

http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/android/thread?tid=34ae2c179184c33e&hl=en

Why was this never mentioned?]]>Jun 25th 2010 3:51AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/iphone-4-antenna-woes-contextualized-by-dude-in-the-know/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/iphone-4-antenna-woes-contextualized-by-dude-in-the-know/Jun 25th 2010 3:55AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/iphone-4-antenna-woes-contextualized-by-dude-in-the-know/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/iphone-4-antenna-woes-contextualized-by-dude-in-the-know/
Are you blind?

http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/25/google-nexus-one-3g-issues-result-of-poor-coverage-bugs-patch/

http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/11/nexus-one-3g-problems-persist-after-update-is-it-a-design-pro/

http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/22/google-no-longer-investigating-fix-for-nexus-one-3g-issues-ad/]]>Jun 25th 2010 3:56AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/iphone-4-antenna-woes-contextualized-by-dude-in-the-know/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/iphone-4-antenna-woes-contextualized-by-dude-in-the-know/
Because Engadget wants to keep stir the pot on this same issue, I can see 5 post within last 24hours on the same topic, why? because it drives Andriod fans and Apple fans both crazy, we've all been played as it's no real big deal - as much as media like us to think. I mean the Americans been putting up with bad AT&T reception for the last 3 years yet they keep coming back.]]>Jun 25th 2010 3:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/iphone-4-antenna-woes-contextualized-by-dude-in-the-know/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/iphone-4-antenna-woes-contextualized-by-dude-in-the-know/
"... I mean the Americans been putting up with bad AT&T reception for the last 3 years yet they keep coming back." - so it can't be THAT bad for everyone. Overblown crap that plays on everyone's psychic...

Bad Engadget, Bad!]]>Jun 25th 2010 4:02AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/iphone-4-antenna-woes-contextualized-by-dude-in-the-know/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/iphone-4-antenna-woes-contextualized-by-dude-in-the-know/
because the N1 wasnt dropping calls immediately after touching, just dropping signal slightly and sometimes pretty significantly, but it never hindered the phone, and the way you have to cup the N1 is not the natural way of holding a phone. The iPhone 4 does have that problem.]]>Jun 25th 2010 4:02AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/iphone-4-antenna-woes-contextualized-by-dude-in-the-know/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/iphone-4-antenna-woes-contextualized-by-dude-in-the-know/And which one would deliver more views? A story about a months old phone or a story about the one that came out the other day?]]>Jun 25th 2010 4:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/iphone-4-antenna-woes-contextualized-by-dude-in-the-know/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/iphone-4-antenna-woes-contextualized-by-dude-in-the-know/Apple is the topnotch. They are the ones that need to be perfect!]]>Jun 25th 2010 4:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/iphone-4-antenna-woes-contextualized-by-dude-in-the-know/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/iphone-4-antenna-woes-contextualized-by-dude-in-the-know/
uhh, they reported on it months ago. several times.
Of course you don't report old news when its old.
But I remember the N1 having this issue (slightly less significant) being the number one commented thread of that day.
]]>Jun 25th 2010 4:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/iphone-4-antenna-woes-contextualized-by-dude-in-the-know/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/iphone-4-antenna-woes-contextualized-by-dude-in-the-know/
You're missing a big part of why this is worse...

I'm sure there were people who really had there heart set on the Nexus One when it came out, and yes I completely agree that Google did not handle the issue well. What's the difference? There are DOZENS of other Android phones out there on NUMEROUS carriers, people have choices. Signal issues on the Nexus One? Sucks... But at least there are other Android phones to choose from.

Apple knows they build products people want, products that certain people just MUST HAVE. If you want a shiny NEW mobile phone running iOS4 you HAVE to get an iPhone4, you don't have a choice. You can't pick another carrier, you can't pick another manufacturer. A lot of people who buy an iPhone don't just want usability and looks, they want THE iPhone. They don't have a choice. I think Apple knows this, and takes advantage of it. For those customers who really want the iPhone (and these are there most loyal customers), they're kinda screwing them over on this one. Sure their customers have a choice to go get a different phone, but treating them like crap for your own mistake and then blaming them for it is just insane.]]>Jun 25th 2010 4:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/iphone-4-antenna-woes-contextualized-by-dude-in-the-know/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/iphone-4-antenna-woes-contextualized-by-dude-in-the-know/Jun 25th 2010 3:51AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/iphone-4-antenna-woes-contextualized-by-dude-in-the-know/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/iphone-4-antenna-woes-contextualized-by-dude-in-the-know/Jun 25th 2010 3:56AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/iphone-4-antenna-woes-contextualized-by-dude-in-the-know/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/iphone-4-antenna-woes-contextualized-by-dude-in-the-know/strikes me the most to see engadget covering up so much on behalf of apple. it is disgusting...
when nokia launched the n97 they even compared it to syphilis,mind you a horrible disease, but with apple is this "its not that bif of a deal".

its total disrespect with customers and a flawed design engadget.]]>Jun 25th 2010 3:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/iphone-4-antenna-woes-contextualized-by-dude-in-the-know/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/iphone-4-antenna-woes-contextualized-by-dude-in-the-know/Jun 25th 2010 4:00AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/iphone-4-antenna-woes-contextualized-by-dude-in-the-know/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/iphone-4-antenna-woes-contextualized-by-dude-in-the-know/Jun 25th 2010 4:08AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/iphone-4-antenna-woes-contextualized-by-dude-in-the-know/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/iphone-4-antenna-woes-contextualized-by-dude-in-the-know/still, would be cool to see as much punches towards apple as you guys throw against nokia.
and you guys can be funny and sarcatic when you want. ]]>Jun 25th 2010 4:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/iphone-4-antenna-woes-contextualized-by-dude-in-the-know/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/iphone-4-antenna-woes-contextualized-by-dude-in-the-know/
I think its funny how when an apple product has a problem most of the users never even complain, but when other companies have problems the users are the ones who are angry and demanding they do something. People need to realize that Apple is a multi billion dollar company whos number one goal is to make as much money as possible and stop defending them like theyre a mom and pop shop with a Walmart right next door.]]>Jun 25th 2010 4:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/iphone-4-antenna-woes-contextualized-by-dude-in-the-know/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/iphone-4-antenna-woes-contextualized-by-dude-in-the-know/
Uh excuse me sir, you do have customers. They are called readers. And your product is suppose to be OBJECTIVE coverage.]]>Jun 25th 2010 4:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/iphone-4-antenna-woes-contextualized-by-dude-in-the-know/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/iphone-4-antenna-woes-contextualized-by-dude-in-the-know/
Uh, dude, all the posts they have posted to day were legitiment, the only REALLY bad phase that I thought went through way too many posts was the week of iPad only Engadget.

But since then, its pretty typical for big products to get 5 articles on 1 day about updates and different perspectives of an issue.

Dont like it, go to Gizmodo, oh wait.]]>Jun 25th 2010 4:33AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/iphone-4-antenna-woes-contextualized-by-dude-in-the-know/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/iphone-4-antenna-woes-contextualized-by-dude-in-the-know/
The problem we have is not with the number of articles but with the particular article itself. It's obviously biased and down playing what users are experiencing. I know engadget is a blog and does not have to be totally unbiased, I guess neither do real news sites either seeing what fox and msnbc put out, but it's irresponsible to take apples side like this time and time again. Plus vlad's remark above makes him sound like a dick. ]]>Jun 25th 2010 4:45AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/iphone-4-antenna-woes-contextualized-by-dude-in-the-know/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/iphone-4-antenna-woes-contextualized-by-dude-in-the-know/
Uh Dude, it's comments like these:

"But, before we start ostracizing Apple as the singular offender here..."

"sometimes an antenna that's not great, but good enough, is good enough."

... that inspire a lack of confidence in their journalistic objectivity. It's not the number of posts, it's the refusal to call Apple to the mat the way they do other companies.

]]>Jun 25th 2010 4:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/iphone-4-antenna-woes-contextualized-by-dude-in-the-know/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/iphone-4-antenna-woes-contextualized-by-dude-in-the-know/
This article is such a textbook case of trying desperately to appear "balanced" so you don't lose the readership of iDevice fans. One guy (who admits he's buying the iPhone regardless) says it's a common issue, and we're all supposed to just nod in agreement? My Evo doesn't drop calls if i hold it, neither did my 3GS, so personal experience contradicts this pointless pandering "article." ]]>Jun 25th 2010 5:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/iphone-4-antenna-woes-contextualized-by-dude-in-the-know/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/iphone-4-antenna-woes-contextualized-by-dude-in-the-know/
this is your post of great importance? you do realise that even apple fanboys and trolls wouldn't have up-ranked that right?

it's not hard to suspect that certain companies pay for news coverage, but there's really no harm putting an ad banner for that somewhere.

oh wait, that's probably prohibited in the contract too huh?

wonder when this post will get deleted.]]>Jun 25th 2010 5:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/iphone-4-antenna-woes-contextualized-by-dude-in-the-know/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/iphone-4-antenna-woes-contextualized-by-dude-in-the-know/well, at least his reply was more courteous than that of Steve Jobs. Oh wait...]]>Jun 25th 2010 5:49AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/iphone-4-antenna-woes-contextualized-by-dude-in-the-know/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/iphone-4-antenna-woes-contextualized-by-dude-in-the-know/
Vlad why didnt you fully report what the guy said??
http://www.antennasys.com/antennasys-blog/2010/6/24/apple-iphone-4-antennas.html
"There is no way around this, it's a DESIGN COMPROMISE that is forced by the requirements of the FCC, AT&T, Apple's marketing department and Apple's industrial designers, to name a few."

Yet you insist that its an "Assembly" issue...]]>Jun 25th 2010 5:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/iphone-4-antenna-woes-contextualized-by-dude-in-the-know/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/iphone-4-antenna-woes-contextualized-by-dude-in-the-know/Jun 25th 2010 8:03AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/iphone-4-antenna-woes-contextualized-by-dude-in-the-know/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/iphone-4-antenna-woes-contextualized-by-dude-in-the-know/
I think you guys have a choice:

a) You can continue to write articles like these and have your readers reject them with such vitriol that it actually antagonizes you to respond like so

b) Engadget can go back to the way it was before all this Apple bias and back to being a credible blog that I used to love and comment on!


But, I think it's too far gone for the latter.]]>Jun 25th 2010 10:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/iphone-4-antenna-woes-contextualized-by-dude-in-the-know/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/iphone-4-antenna-woes-contextualized-by-dude-in-the-know/EXCUSE ME BUT THIS SHITTY APPLE LOVING BLOG WOULDN'T BE SO POPULAR WITHOUT READERS. OUR TRAFFIC BRINGS YOU SPONSORS WHO LINE YOUR POCKETS WITH DOLLARS]]>Jun 25th 2010 10:24AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/iphone-4-antenna-woes-contextualized-by-dude-in-the-know/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/iphone-4-antenna-woes-contextualized-by-dude-in-the-know/
How can Josh T recommend this phone to millions of people with problems like this? Just dismissing it as good enough but another competing phone that he has obviously never used for more than 10 minutes at a time is too complicated.

This isn't manufactured outrage. This is just sheer disappointment. I thought Engadget was better than that. I want to see balance and right now the iPhone4 (in its current state) has some major deal breakers.]]>Jun 25th 2010 11:56AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/iphone-4-antenna-woes-contextualized-by-dude-in-the-know/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/iphone-4-antenna-woes-contextualized-by-dude-in-the-know/
How about loyal readers who trusted you to be honest??? You sir cannot be trusted!!!!]]>Jun 25th 2010 12:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/iphone-4-antenna-woes-contextualized-by-dude-in-the-know/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/iphone-4-antenna-woes-contextualized-by-dude-in-the-know/
Slow your roll on the hyperbole, yeah this article is pretty balls, but there is a way to do constructive criticism.

Seriously though, if I were an Engadget editor/writer I would start working on attempting to replicate the issue with the iPhone 4's the have on hand and seeing how much impact there is. I think the big E has a chance to put together an informative article since they have staff all over the place and can test devices in different areas and what not. C'mon guys take advantage of this and put out some good, informative articles!]]>Jun 25th 2010 12:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/iphone-4-antenna-woes-contextualized-by-dude-in-the-know/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/iphone-4-antenna-woes-contextualized-by-dude-in-the-know/Jun 25th 2010 3:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/iphone-4-antenna-woes-contextualized-by-dude-in-the-know/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/iphone-4-antenna-woes-contextualized-by-dude-in-the-know/Jun 25th 2010 3:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/iphone-4-antenna-woes-contextualized-by-dude-in-the-know/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/iphone-4-antenna-woes-contextualized-by-dude-in-the-know/Jun 25th 2010 3:54AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/iphone-4-antenna-woes-contextualized-by-dude-in-the-know/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/iphone-4-antenna-woes-contextualized-by-dude-in-the-know/I think SpencerWeb can comment about this without much fuss, because it's understandable. He has loads of money, to spend on iphone4, even though not good, but as he is an antenna guy, he knows to handle these issue, and as he said, he knows how to do the vulcan antenna grip on his iphone. So basically he is saying the same thing as Steve Jobs in indirect and mild words.
But what about common man? and why do hundreds and hundreds of models out in the world not have the same problem as iphone, nexus, etc? even though they are quite thin, may be 9-10 mm more than iphone. ]]>Jun 25th 2010 4:13AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/iphone-4-antenna-woes-contextualized-by-dude-in-the-know/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/iphone-4-antenna-woes-contextualized-by-dude-in-the-know/seriously, I thought the technology meant to be working as humans themselves become antenna, but what happened?
"You're defected, not my iPhone problem"
-Steve Jobs, sent from my iPhone within bumper case]]>Jun 25th 2010 4:14AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/iphone-4-antenna-woes-contextualized-by-dude-in-the-know/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/iphone-4-antenna-woes-contextualized-by-dude-in-the-know/
apple at its best, marketing nonsense. ]]>Jun 25th 2010 4:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/iphone-4-antenna-woes-contextualized-by-dude-in-the-know/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/iphone-4-antenna-woes-contextualized-by-dude-in-the-know/
Again we see the results of a form-over-function design approach. So beautiful yet impractical.

A mouse shaped like a work of art instead of a human hand.
An aversion of ports and buttons
Batteries that can't be easily replaced.

Apple is a company with products that value image and appearance over function.]]>Jun 25th 2010 4:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/iphone-4-antenna-woes-contextualized-by-dude-in-the-know/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/iphone-4-antenna-woes-contextualized-by-dude-in-the-know/
can't fault apple fully for that. we as consumers LOVE things that look good and work great, but when met with choice, looks win...

The main issue with Android early on (and in some ways currently) is that it's just so damn ugly...now, as an Android fan, I prefered the function over the form, but to Joe Consumer it's not good enough.

People keep throwing money at looks negating function and these businesses go where the money is.

If people woke the frack up and started placing as much emphasis on function as they do form we'd see a future full of some truly magnificent devices.

Ironically, if Apple was more interested in function as they are form and Google were more interested in form as they are function we'd have even greater pieces of hardware and software available than we do now.

Here's hoping iPhone5 and Android 3.0 are truly revolutionary.]]>Jun 25th 2010 5:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/iphone-4-antenna-woes-contextualized-by-dude-in-the-know/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/iphone-4-antenna-woes-contextualized-by-dude-in-the-know/I don't think it's as bad as HTC saying phones don't go in pockets. My phone even came with this warning stuck on the screen!
But still, I think Jobs will regret saying it so bluntly.]]>Jun 25th 2010 3:54AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/iphone-4-antenna-woes-contextualized-by-dude-in-the-know/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/iphone-4-antenna-woes-contextualized-by-dude-in-the-know/Jun 25th 2010 3:55AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/iphone-4-antenna-woes-contextualized-by-dude-in-the-know/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/iphone-4-antenna-woes-contextualized-by-dude-in-the-know/Jun 25th 2010 3:55AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/iphone-4-antenna-woes-contextualized-by-dude-in-the-know/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/iphone-4-antenna-woes-contextualized-by-dude-in-the-know/
http://www.paulodourado.com/How_to_hold_iPhone4.jpg]]>Jun 25th 2010 5:02AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/iphone-4-antenna-woes-contextualized-by-dude-in-the-know/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/iphone-4-antenna-woes-contextualized-by-dude-in-the-know/Jun 25th 2010 3:56AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/iphone-4-antenna-woes-contextualized-by-dude-in-the-know/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/iphone-4-antenna-woes-contextualized-by-dude-in-the-know/Jun 25th 2010 4:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/iphone-4-antenna-woes-contextualized-by-dude-in-the-know/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/iphone-4-antenna-woes-contextualized-by-dude-in-the-know/For me it doesnt seem like a dealbreaker having to hold it in a certain way, as long as the position is comfortable. I think its like when you use a knife you have to hold it in a certain way so that it works. What's the big deal? ]]>Jun 25th 2010 4:28AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/iphone-4-antenna-woes-contextualized-by-dude-in-the-know/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/iphone-4-antenna-woes-contextualized-by-dude-in-the-know/
Steve Jobs tells customers "You're holding the phone wrong morons! If you can't hold a phone the way WE want you to hold it then buy one of our bumpers... idiot."

Media responds with: "Your phone is good enough. We still love you."]]>Jun 25th 2010 3:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/iphone-4-antenna-woes-contextualized-by-dude-in-the-know/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/iphone-4-antenna-woes-contextualized-by-dude-in-the-know/

Touting for business much?

Also dropped calls=not good enough.]]>Jun 25th 2010 3:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/iphone-4-antenna-woes-contextualized-by-dude-in-the-know/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/iphone-4-antenna-woes-contextualized-by-dude-in-the-know/Jun 25th 2010 3:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/iphone-4-antenna-woes-contextualized-by-dude-in-the-know/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/iphone-4-antenna-woes-contextualized-by-dude-in-the-know/
probably YES]]>Jun 25th 2010 4:10AM