http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/30/iphone-os-2-apps-no-longer-welcome-on-the-app-store/ Engadget Comments for iPhone OS 2 apps no longer welcome on the App Store http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/30/iphone-os-2-apps-no-longer-welcome-on-the-app-store/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/30/iphone-os-2-apps-no-longer-welcome-on-the-app-store/Jun 30th 2010 12:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/30/iphone-os-2-apps-no-longer-welcome-on-the-app-store/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/30/iphone-os-2-apps-no-longer-welcome-on-the-app-store/
Yeah, but it's great if it means it can get rid of Fart Apps. (unless the developers of such apps "update" those apps for iOS4 to include multi-tasking... say for those needing to play a streaming fart sound while surfing the web)]]>Jun 30th 2010 12:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/30/iphone-os-2-apps-no-longer-welcome-on-the-app-store/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/30/iphone-os-2-apps-no-longer-welcome-on-the-app-store/Jun 30th 2010 12:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/30/iphone-os-2-apps-no-longer-welcome-on-the-app-store/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/30/iphone-os-2-apps-no-longer-welcome-on-the-app-store/yeah but it you don't have 1.6 you can't use some stuff
if you don't have 2.1 and above you miss out also using Android]]>Jun 30th 2010 12:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/30/iphone-os-2-apps-no-longer-welcome-on-the-app-store/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/30/iphone-os-2-apps-no-longer-welcome-on-the-app-store/
Yah.. 4 years support compared to Android's "open" approach where your 6 months phone may already be outdated and won't get any more updates. I think I prefer Apples approach when it comes to legacy support.]]>Jun 30th 2010 12:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/30/iphone-os-2-apps-no-longer-welcome-on-the-app-store/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/30/iphone-os-2-apps-no-longer-welcome-on-the-app-store/
I don't like this decision personally. But whatever. It seems Apple is really just trying to look out for it's own best interests lately. Which all companies in a capitalistic society do I understand but still.

Most people won't care about this but as a dev I don't like it. Maybe I want to develop an app and make sure it hits the most possible iphone users. I'll develop for the lowest SDK and it will/should cover everyone. Not anymore. So I guess people with 2.0 on their iphones need to buck up and probably make up less than 3% of all iphone users. I think.]]>Jun 30th 2010 12:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/30/iphone-os-2-apps-no-longer-welcome-on-the-app-store/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/30/iphone-os-2-apps-no-longer-welcome-on-the-app-store/
No it's more ways to avoid fragmentation and confusion in the "i" universe.]]>Jun 30th 2010 12:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/30/iphone-os-2-apps-no-longer-welcome-on-the-app-store/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/30/iphone-os-2-apps-no-longer-welcome-on-the-app-store/
Keep that treadmill rolling! I stepped off it already anyway, when they tried to force me to upgrade phone hardware just to get MMS support.]]>Jun 30th 2010 12:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/30/iphone-os-2-apps-no-longer-welcome-on-the-app-store/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/30/iphone-os-2-apps-no-longer-welcome-on-the-app-store/
Come on now. By making an app using the 2.0 sdk means that the app will not support multitasking and other goodies in iOS4. So although you are pleasing a few, you are pissing off a lot more by not using the new sdk. At some point in time you are going to have to draw a line in the sand. I think 4 years is reasonable for these type of devices.

Its not like all the 2.0 apps magically disappear and you can't use the device anymore, it just means that new software will not be guaranteed to work with it. I'm actually surprised that these 4 year old portable devices are still working and that people actually still want to use them.]]>Jun 30th 2010 1:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/30/iphone-os-2-apps-no-longer-welcome-on-the-app-store/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/30/iphone-os-2-apps-no-longer-welcome-on-the-app-store/
I'm sure if you were a Windows developer you would be ensuring compatibility with Windows 95, right?]]>Jun 30th 2010 1:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/30/iphone-os-2-apps-no-longer-welcome-on-the-app-store/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/30/iphone-os-2-apps-no-longer-welcome-on-the-app-store/
Luckily Android users won't have that problem:

http://www.androidzoom.com/android_applications/fart/by_matching]]>Jun 30th 2010 1:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/30/iphone-os-2-apps-no-longer-welcome-on-the-app-store/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/30/iphone-os-2-apps-no-longer-welcome-on-the-app-store/Jun 30th 2010 1:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/30/iphone-os-2-apps-no-longer-welcome-on-the-app-store/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/30/iphone-os-2-apps-no-longer-welcome-on-the-app-store/I think Lenovo/IBM wins at legacy support.

http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/document.do?sitestyle=lenovo&lndocid=MIGR-67364

Software updates for the X40, which was released in 2004.]]>Jun 30th 2010 1:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/30/iphone-os-2-apps-no-longer-welcome-on-the-app-store/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/30/iphone-os-2-apps-no-longer-welcome-on-the-app-store/
Errrr, This move is EXACTLY what fragmentation is sir. When you have different flavors of a platform that do not support the same core functionality i.e. apps in this case. Now if they wanted to avoid fragmentation they would make sure apps made are compatible across the board.]]>Jun 30th 2010 1:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/30/iphone-os-2-apps-no-longer-welcome-on-the-app-store/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/30/iphone-os-2-apps-no-longer-welcome-on-the-app-store/
Big surprise. Since when has Apple worried about backwards compatibility?

Apple users should be used to this by now, and they should like it.

Move along, move along.]]>Jun 30th 2010 1:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/30/iphone-os-2-apps-no-longer-welcome-on-the-app-store/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/30/iphone-os-2-apps-no-longer-welcome-on-the-app-store/Jun 30th 2010 2:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/30/iphone-os-2-apps-no-longer-welcome-on-the-app-store/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/30/iphone-os-2-apps-no-longer-welcome-on-the-app-store/
The fact that the iPhone's OS can be upgraded is still an abnormality in the mobile phone market, and a 2007 iPhone can still run most apps published in the App Store (the ones that don't have hardware specific requirements). How many mobile phones, across the board, can you say that about?

Apple does a hell of a lot to extend backwards compatibility. It's unrealistic that they should have to make sure old applications run on a brand-new OS just because the user is too cheap to spring for a new version from time-to-time.]]>Jun 30th 2010 2:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/30/iphone-os-2-apps-no-longer-welcome-on-the-app-store/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/30/iphone-os-2-apps-no-longer-welcome-on-the-app-store/You can run windows 1.1 programs in Win 7. Windows is cool like that. ]]>Jun 30th 2010 4:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/30/iphone-os-2-apps-no-longer-welcome-on-the-app-store/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/30/iphone-os-2-apps-no-longer-welcome-on-the-app-store/
Honestly, I never saw the draw of MMS or even SMS at all. Free Push e-mail. wtf should I PAY to send something I can otherwise send for free, and access from numerous platforms.

Getting a pic in MMS means a) degraded quality, b) cost, C0 funk hoops to jump through to get the image into a PC (and a fee on many Verizon and Sprint devices).

Do you REALLY have to show me that image RIGHT NOW, at a cost to me to get it? no, you don's. Also, every phone I've had with a color screen and a camera could get e-mail on it anyway, free. Phonenumber@carrier.net. MMS is BS, and I've had it and SMS blocked on all my iDevices, and every other phone I'm forced to carry for a job, since I've had them in my hand. Never once has someone tried to contact me with something important, and they could not get data to me instantly. (either by simply placing a call, sending an e-mail, or posting on some service or corporate server that had push notifications.

I applauded Steve when he said the iPhone at launch would not have/need MMS and why, and he lost points with me when he and apple finally caved to AT&T to allow MMS (at 3 times the cost of text, even though every iPhone got e-mail with embeded image support, and so did every other MMS device on the market at the time).

Data is data is data, and fuck no I'm not paying more for one type than another. ]]>Jun 30th 2010 4:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/30/iphone-os-2-apps-no-longer-welcome-on-the-app-store/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/30/iphone-os-2-apps-no-longer-welcome-on-the-app-store/
OH NOOO!!1!~! \(*O * / ) Fragmentation!!]]>Jun 30th 2010 4:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/30/iphone-os-2-apps-no-longer-welcome-on-the-app-store/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/30/iphone-os-2-apps-no-longer-welcome-on-the-app-store/
OH NOOOO!!1~! \(*O * / ) Fragmentation!!]]>Jun 30th 2010 4:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/30/iphone-os-2-apps-no-longer-welcome-on-the-app-store/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/30/iphone-os-2-apps-no-longer-welcome-on-the-app-store/
OH NOOOO!!1~! \(*O * / ) Fragmentation!!]]>Jun 30th 2010 4:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/30/iphone-os-2-apps-no-longer-welcome-on-the-app-store/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/30/iphone-os-2-apps-no-longer-welcome-on-the-app-store/Why? NOBODY is still on OS 2. There's no point in allowing devs to program for a 2 year old version of the OS which nobody should be using. ]]>Jun 30th 2010 5:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/30/iphone-os-2-apps-no-longer-welcome-on-the-app-store/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/30/iphone-os-2-apps-no-longer-welcome-on-the-app-store/
I agree, writing this on my original iPhone with iOS 3. Still chugging along. :) ]]>Jun 30th 2010 6:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/30/iphone-os-2-apps-no-longer-welcome-on-the-app-store/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/30/iphone-os-2-apps-no-longer-welcome-on-the-app-store/
Actually, it would be more like ensuring compatibility with Windows XP.
In which case the answer would likely be yes. ]]>Jun 30th 2010 7:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/30/iphone-os-2-apps-no-longer-welcome-on-the-app-store/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/30/iphone-os-2-apps-no-longer-welcome-on-the-app-store/Jul 1st 2010 7:48AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/30/iphone-os-2-apps-no-longer-welcome-on-the-app-store/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/30/iphone-os-2-apps-no-longer-welcome-on-the-app-store/Jun 30th 2010 12:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/30/iphone-os-2-apps-no-longer-welcome-on-the-app-store/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/30/iphone-os-2-apps-no-longer-welcome-on-the-app-store/Jun 30th 2010 12:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/30/iphone-os-2-apps-no-longer-welcome-on-the-app-store/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/30/iphone-os-2-apps-no-longer-welcome-on-the-app-store/Yeah, I don't think it's of any use... lol
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Nah I mean OS 2.xIt's sooo out dated.]]>Jun 30th 2010 12:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/30/iphone-os-2-apps-no-longer-welcome-on-the-app-store/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/30/iphone-os-2-apps-no-longer-welcome-on-the-app-store/Jun 30th 2010 12:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/30/iphone-os-2-apps-no-longer-welcome-on-the-app-store/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/30/iphone-os-2-apps-no-longer-welcome-on-the-app-store/__________________________
Some people can't think harder]]>Jun 30th 2010 12:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/30/iphone-os-2-apps-no-longer-welcome-on-the-app-store/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/30/iphone-os-2-apps-no-longer-welcome-on-the-app-store/Jun 30th 2010 3:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/30/iphone-os-2-apps-no-longer-welcome-on-the-app-store/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/30/iphone-os-2-apps-no-longer-welcome-on-the-app-store/Jun 30th 2010 12:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/30/iphone-os-2-apps-no-longer-welcome-on-the-app-store/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/30/iphone-os-2-apps-no-longer-welcome-on-the-app-store/
Note to self: rinse and repeat for every even numbered iOS.]]>Jun 30th 2010 12:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/30/iphone-os-2-apps-no-longer-welcome-on-the-app-store/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/30/iphone-os-2-apps-no-longer-welcome-on-the-app-store/
by "we have your money" I can only assume you mean "we give you 70% of all money made from your app on our store". And by "give us some more" I can only assume you mean "Update it with the iOS 4 SDK so we can give you more money."]]>Jun 30th 2010 12:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/30/iphone-os-2-apps-no-longer-welcome-on-the-app-store/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/30/iphone-os-2-apps-no-longer-welcome-on-the-app-store/Jun 30th 2010 1:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/30/iphone-os-2-apps-no-longer-welcome-on-the-app-store/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/30/iphone-os-2-apps-no-longer-welcome-on-the-app-store/Jun 30th 2010 12:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/30/iphone-os-2-apps-no-longer-welcome-on-the-app-store/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/30/iphone-os-2-apps-no-longer-welcome-on-the-app-store/Jun 30th 2010 12:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/30/iphone-os-2-apps-no-longer-welcome-on-the-app-store/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/30/iphone-os-2-apps-no-longer-welcome-on-the-app-store/
Really? Which apps are you talking about that would actually be affected by this?]]>Jun 30th 2010 12:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/30/iphone-os-2-apps-no-longer-welcome-on-the-app-store/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/30/iphone-os-2-apps-no-longer-welcome-on-the-app-store/Jun 30th 2010 12:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/30/iphone-os-2-apps-no-longer-welcome-on-the-app-store/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/30/iphone-os-2-apps-no-longer-welcome-on-the-app-store/Jun 30th 2010 12:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/30/iphone-os-2-apps-no-longer-welcome-on-the-app-store/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/30/iphone-os-2-apps-no-longer-welcome-on-the-app-store/That doesn't mean that apps written for iOS 3.x or 4 won't work on iOS 2.x unless the newer software is necessary for operation of the app.]]>Jun 30th 2010 12:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/30/iphone-os-2-apps-no-longer-welcome-on-the-app-store/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/30/iphone-os-2-apps-no-longer-welcome-on-the-app-store/Jun 30th 2010 12:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/30/iphone-os-2-apps-no-longer-welcome-on-the-app-store/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/30/iphone-os-2-apps-no-longer-welcome-on-the-app-store/
This has nothing to do with which OS you're running. This only has to do with apps that were written specifically for iOS 2. Apps that weren't written for a specific version of the os, even ones written three years ago, will still be fine.]]>Jun 30th 2010 12:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/30/iphone-os-2-apps-no-longer-welcome-on-the-app-store/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/30/iphone-os-2-apps-no-longer-welcome-on-the-app-store/Jun 30th 2010 12:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/30/iphone-os-2-apps-no-longer-welcome-on-the-app-store/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/30/iphone-os-2-apps-no-longer-welcome-on-the-app-store/
1. iPhone updates are free.
2. Developers get 70% of all the money made from their apps on the store.

Assuming you're living in the same reality as the rest of us, who is paying more in this scenario?]]>Jun 30th 2010 12:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/30/iphone-os-2-apps-no-longer-welcome-on-the-app-store/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/30/iphone-os-2-apps-no-longer-welcome-on-the-app-store/
1. You neglect the iPod Touch, which required a $10 fee to upgrade to iOS 3.]]>Jun 30th 2010 1:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/30/iphone-os-2-apps-no-longer-welcome-on-the-app-store/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/30/iphone-os-2-apps-no-longer-welcome-on-the-app-store/
You forgot to mention that this doesn't affect which OS you're running. It ONLY affects apps that were specifically written for iOS 2. Apps. Not your OS. Furthermore, old apps that do NOT specifically target an OS aren't affected by this. Additionally, iOS 4 apps are backwards compatible, so it's STILL not an issue.

Get it yet?]]>Jun 30th 2010 1:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/30/iphone-os-2-apps-no-longer-welcome-on-the-app-store/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/30/iphone-os-2-apps-no-longer-welcome-on-the-app-store/
It seems the only ones complaining are those who have never used IOS and therefore have no clue what they're talking about]]>Jun 30th 2010 1:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/06/30/iphone-os-2-apps-no-longer-welcome-on-the-app-store/http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/30/iphone-os-2-apps-no-longer-welcome-on-the-app-store/Jun 30th 2010 12:43PM