http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/02/new-xbox-360-slim-250gb-review/ Engadget Comments for New Xbox 360 250GB review http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/02/new-xbox-360-slim-250gb-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/02/new-xbox-360-slim-250gb-review/Jul 2nd 2010 10:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/02/new-xbox-360-slim-250gb-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/02/new-xbox-360-slim-250gb-review/
i don't have to read the article to know its badass

i want this]]>Jul 2nd 2010 10:36AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/02/new-xbox-360-slim-250gb-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/02/new-xbox-360-slim-250gb-review/
What's so special about this "amazing" new xbox?? It basically has what the PS3 has had for a few years now...what's actually new...the kinect crap??]]>Jul 2nd 2010 10:46AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/02/new-xbox-360-slim-250gb-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/02/new-xbox-360-slim-250gb-review/You'll be glad to know there is an entire article dedicated to the new Xbox 360 console just above this comments section that you seem to have skipped ahead to.]]>Jul 2nd 2010 10:52AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/02/new-xbox-360-slim-250gb-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/02/new-xbox-360-slim-250gb-review/
Great comment, I had to chuckle.]]>Jul 2nd 2010 10:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/02/new-xbox-360-slim-250gb-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/02/new-xbox-360-slim-250gb-review/I find it alarming that they actually managed to make the heat issue worse]]>Jul 2nd 2010 11:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/02/new-xbox-360-slim-250gb-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/02/new-xbox-360-slim-250gb-review/
I'd go with the original PS3. It has the most powerful system so while modern games are comparable on both mediums, that extra grunt will mean decent speed for 3D games @720p. Also to add, the PSN has matured and is exactly like Xbox Live but for FREE. Oh and did I mention that the PS3 will push even further with the Move. The Move controllers enable Wii-like games/experienced but without the frustration of Wii's inaccuracies. So you could use physical movements for 3D gameplay at an enjoyable pace. While the Xbox360 will aim furth with the Kinect but its a very young technology so laggy and inaccurate experiences is more than guaranteed.

Either way, feature-wise the PS3 is most capable, followed by Xbox360 then Wii which offers you lower price. Only if they didn't remove "Other OS" feature, imagine dualbooting your PS3 to MeeGo??]]>Jul 2nd 2010 11:10AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/02/new-xbox-360-slim-250gb-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/02/new-xbox-360-slim-250gb-review/Jul 2nd 2010 11:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/02/new-xbox-360-slim-250gb-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/02/new-xbox-360-slim-250gb-review/Jul 2nd 2010 11:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/02/new-xbox-360-slim-250gb-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/02/new-xbox-360-slim-250gb-review/Jul 2nd 2010 11:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/02/new-xbox-360-slim-250gb-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/02/new-xbox-360-slim-250gb-review/Hope it lasts long for you because if it runs at 140 degrees for some games, the internals won't last long.]]>Jul 2nd 2010 11:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/02/new-xbox-360-slim-250gb-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/02/new-xbox-360-slim-250gb-review/
kthxbai.

]]>Jul 2nd 2010 11:25AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/02/new-xbox-360-slim-250gb-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/02/new-xbox-360-slim-250gb-review/Looking at both devices, if I was asked which one was the new model without knowing before hand I would probably say the matte version.]]>Jul 2nd 2010 11:32AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/02/new-xbox-360-slim-250gb-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/02/new-xbox-360-slim-250gb-review/Jul 2nd 2010 11:42AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/02/new-xbox-360-slim-250gb-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/02/new-xbox-360-slim-250gb-review/Jul 2nd 2010 11:46AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/02/new-xbox-360-slim-250gb-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/02/new-xbox-360-slim-250gb-review/Jul 2nd 2010 11:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/02/new-xbox-360-slim-250gb-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/02/new-xbox-360-slim-250gb-review/Jul 2nd 2010 11:54AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/02/new-xbox-360-slim-250gb-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/02/new-xbox-360-slim-250gb-review/Jul 2nd 2010 12:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/02/new-xbox-360-slim-250gb-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/02/new-xbox-360-slim-250gb-review/
Right hand column.....]]>Jul 2nd 2010 12:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/02/new-xbox-360-slim-250gb-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/02/new-xbox-360-slim-250gb-review/Jul 2nd 2010 12:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/02/new-xbox-360-slim-250gb-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/02/new-xbox-360-slim-250gb-review/with regards to the heat "issue" everything (ram, cpu, gpu) is all on one chip now, there for the heat is localized. the simple fact that it consumes less energy is a good indication its more effecient. also, the system pushes the heat out much more effectively (especially when laid down) than the previous systems.

all in all i love my new xbox, and would never think of going back to an older model. its a dream come true playing games from the hdd, just so darn quiet!]]>Jul 2nd 2010 12:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/02/new-xbox-360-slim-250gb-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/02/new-xbox-360-slim-250gb-review/Jul 2nd 2010 12:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/02/new-xbox-360-slim-250gb-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/02/new-xbox-360-slim-250gb-review/How on earth do they manage to shrink the dies and thus reduce power draw, re-design the cooler and then output MORE heat rather than less?!

Other than that, looks pretty solid, although no real reason to upgrade unless my 360 goes kurplunk.]]>Jul 2nd 2010 1:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/02/new-xbox-360-slim-250gb-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/02/new-xbox-360-slim-250gb-review/Jul 2nd 2010 1:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/02/new-xbox-360-slim-250gb-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/02/new-xbox-360-slim-250gb-review/
You think they would have gotten rid of that power brick, no? That's kind of weird ... will see, stability wise, how the new one fares. Build quality should be better than the previous one.

And to the folks that mention Live, that is all a matter of opinion. My experiences, and people I know, haven't been all roses and whatever the fuck they say. Obnoxious kids, glitchy ass games, unreliable servers in some games. MW2, a game I never bought but played at various places, was one of the worst experiences on the 360 I've ever had the pleasure of being a part of.

And to the folks that say "blah blah blah and the Blu-Ray I don't need that shit." Well, that's funny. It goes hand in hand with the games...you know why the PS3 has the better games? Games like Uncharted and MGS4? Cause they're on Blu-Ray, it allows games to be "more bad ass" and that's why you get half ass "great" games like Gears and Crackdown (which is horrible, the first one was trash but people were so desperate for games they embraced it. was a very curious thing Crackdown 1 was.) and whatever. Forza is cool, but it won't even compare to the new GT. Which yes, blah blah blah has taken forever. I know, but I guess that's why it's a good thing we got tons of bad ass games to play in the mean time!

If you know what's up, and your investing in a console, the PS3 is the way to go. It's common knowledge ... and don't even mention the abomination that is the Wii. Un-fucking-believable. Eat that dick. ]]>Jul 2nd 2010 1:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/02/new-xbox-360-slim-250gb-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/02/new-xbox-360-slim-250gb-review/I'm not digging the gloss or the angles
One that looked more like the old one just smaller would have been better ]]>Jul 2nd 2010 1:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/02/new-xbox-360-slim-250gb-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/02/new-xbox-360-slim-250gb-review/
Oh, get a fucking clue. The idiocy of some posters is astounding. Electronic components run hotter than that all the time. The most recent nVidia GTX 480 passes 100 degrees Celsius (that's over 212 degrees Farhenheit BTW). The ATI Radeon 5870 can run in 180-200 F range. The Pentium 4 routinely passed 160-180 F due to it's high clock speed. Hell, even the most recent i7's can get hot under load. Fuck, recent articles pointed at the newest MacBook Pro for getting scorching hot (near or higher than 100 C).

Here's a clue, dummy ... it's NOT UNIQUE to the Xbox to run hot.]]>Jul 2nd 2010 1:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/02/new-xbox-360-slim-250gb-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/02/new-xbox-360-slim-250gb-review/Jul 2nd 2010 1:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/02/new-xbox-360-slim-250gb-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/02/new-xbox-360-slim-250gb-review/Could be the case...We need a reviewer to take it apart and attach thermal probes to different parts of the motherboard to know for sure. ]]>Jul 2nd 2010 1:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/02/new-xbox-360-slim-250gb-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/02/new-xbox-360-slim-250gb-review/Jul 2nd 2010 1:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/02/new-xbox-360-slim-250gb-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/02/new-xbox-360-slim-250gb-review/Better value for money?
I go to my local games store in Australia, purchase the new Xbox 360 S and 1 year of Xbox Live for $537.

To buy a PS3 with 250GB HDD was $599.

So even after buying a game for 360 I was still better off. I am sure I can afford 88 bucks every year.

inb4 Bluray. Never used it before and not planing to in the future.

Oh, and did I mention how Xbox has Kinect?]]>Jul 2nd 2010 1:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/02/new-xbox-360-slim-250gb-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/02/new-xbox-360-slim-250gb-review/
Definitely true. Everyone knows Halo 3, Gears of War 1 & 2, and Mass Effect 1 & 2 were utter crap and no one bought them. Aren't they all like the lowest rated games of all time? I mean, seriously, what idiot would buy any of those games? Probably no one on this blog.

/s

Seriously, though, gaming is a matter of opinion. In my opinion, online gaming is great on the 360. I prefer it to the PS3. I personally like the ease of matchmaking and being able to converse with friends who are in different games.

I think all the systems have some great games right now. I love a number of the 360's exclusives. However, I'd be a liar if I said I didn't pick up a PS3 when the price dropped because I loved their exclusives, as well. MGS4, Killzone 2, Uncharted, God of War 3...how can you go wrong? I think it's a shame when anyone gets so attached to one system that they have to automatically discredit anything available on rival systems. In the end, you're not hurting the competitor, you're hurting yourself as you miss out on some amazing games.]]>Jul 2nd 2010 1:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/02/new-xbox-360-slim-250gb-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/02/new-xbox-360-slim-250gb-review/
It's 140 Fahrenheit (60 celcius), not really all that hot.]]>Jul 2nd 2010 2:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/02/new-xbox-360-slim-250gb-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/02/new-xbox-360-slim-250gb-review/
Down ranked for speaking the truth huh? Mass effect was cool, have yet to play the second one but yeah, halo - its pretty old news tho, its 2010...c'mon. Not saying all the games are garbage, just the majority. Some good ones, yeah. Live is cool but there is a lot of bullshit to it.]]>Jul 2nd 2010 2:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/02/new-xbox-360-slim-250gb-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/02/new-xbox-360-slim-250gb-review/
Let me know how much it costs to upgrade that HDD, and let me know when you can wear any bluetooth headset you want. You don't care for blu-ray? Well many people do thats why the resale value of PS3's are much higher than 360's. Might come in handy if you plan on selling it in the future.

Also you're seriously going to mention kinect? The device that was the laughing stock of E3.]]>Jul 2nd 2010 3:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/02/new-xbox-360-slim-250gb-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/02/new-xbox-360-slim-250gb-review/i had the Modern Warfare Special Edition one and upgraded to this one and i love it]]>Jul 2nd 2010 3:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/02/new-xbox-360-slim-250gb-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/02/new-xbox-360-slim-250gb-review/
It's probably not worse in practice. The higher temperature may be a result of slowing the fan RPM to make the console run more quietly.

It might be a bit misleading to assume the entire package is running that hot, especially if it is designed so that the hottest componet will be the last in the airflow before it is vented out of the device.

Also, as another commenter pointed out, a lot of electronic devices are being designed these days to tolerate higher temperatures.
]]>Jul 2nd 2010 3:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/02/new-xbox-360-slim-250gb-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/02/new-xbox-360-slim-250gb-review/It's quieter and uses less power.]]>Jul 2nd 2010 8:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/02/new-xbox-360-slim-250gb-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/02/new-xbox-360-slim-250gb-review/Jul 2nd 2010 9:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/02/new-xbox-360-slim-250gb-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/02/new-xbox-360-slim-250gb-review/Jul 3rd 2010 1:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/02/new-xbox-360-slim-250gb-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/02/new-xbox-360-slim-250gb-review/Jul 3rd 2010 5:59AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/02/new-xbox-360-slim-250gb-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/02/new-xbox-360-slim-250gb-review/Jul 3rd 2010 3:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/02/new-xbox-360-slim-250gb-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/02/new-xbox-360-slim-250gb-review/
Interesting that they've moved to gloss where as Sony went the other way. Personally prefer matte, but im not going to get prints on it either way]]>Jul 3rd 2010 4:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/02/new-xbox-360-slim-250gb-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/02/new-xbox-360-slim-250gb-review/just did some maths and the old xbox elite uses 233 kilowatts a year (when off) and the slim uses 43 kilowatts a year, if your at 11 cents a kilowatt / hour its $25 for an elite and $4.75 for a slim (for a year). thats 5 times more power efficient.
the slim also runs on average 73 % of the wattage the elite dose, so in a years time you can save a good bit of money.
20 hours a week of on time
kilowatts used $ spent avrage watts/hour system
1144 125 110 elite
832 91 80 slim]]>Jul 13th 2010 11:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/02/new-xbox-360-slim-250gb-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/02/new-xbox-360-slim-250gb-review/Jul 2nd 2010 10:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/02/new-xbox-360-slim-250gb-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/02/new-xbox-360-slim-250gb-review/
it is

but the 360's redesign is also sexy

and so is the pricing

especially with kinect

all around win for msft]]>Jul 2nd 2010 10:40AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/02/new-xbox-360-slim-250gb-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/02/new-xbox-360-slim-250gb-review/
Xbox 360 has better games. I have a bluray player. I want a GAMING system, not a bluray player that plays games as well.]]>Jul 2nd 2010 10:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/02/new-xbox-360-slim-250gb-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/02/new-xbox-360-slim-250gb-review/No it is different, neither is really better. At certain task one is better then the other and so on. I don't think you can go wrong picking either if you only want to have one gaming system. ]]>Jul 2nd 2010 10:42AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/02/new-xbox-360-slim-250gb-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/02/new-xbox-360-slim-250gb-review/Jul 2nd 2010 10:44AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/02/new-xbox-360-slim-250gb-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/02/new-xbox-360-slim-250gb-review/
My biggest gripe is that Sony still hasn't updated the style of their controllers and the Analog triggers are TERRIBLE. The controller feels so unnatural to hold unfortunately. This is something Xbox 360 had right from day one. this is a HUGE turn off for me on the gaming side.

All of this coming from someone who uses both consoles regularly, I just prefer my Xbox 360 or PC for gaming and my PS3 for movies.]]>Jul 2nd 2010 10:50AM