http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/06/nintendo-sega-controllers-and-carts-find-a-new-home-in-the-retr/ Engadget Comments for Nintendo, Sega controllers and carts find a new home in the RetroN 3 console http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/06/nintendo-sega-controllers-and-carts-find-a-new-home-in-the-retr/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/06/nintendo-sega-controllers-and-carts-find-a-new-home-in-the-retr/Jul 6th 2010 6:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/06/nintendo-sega-controllers-and-carts-find-a-new-home-in-the-retr/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/06/nintendo-sega-controllers-and-carts-find-a-new-home-in-the-retr/
No idea, tried to check their sell sheet .pdf but seems to be corrupt and the manual's link is unclickable.]]>Jul 6th 2010 6:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/06/nintendo-sega-controllers-and-carts-find-a-new-home-in-the-retr/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/06/nintendo-sega-controllers-and-carts-find-a-new-home-in-the-retr/
DO WANT!!!]]>Jul 6th 2010 6:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/06/nintendo-sega-controllers-and-carts-find-a-new-home-in-the-retr/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/06/nintendo-sega-controllers-and-carts-find-a-new-home-in-the-retr/Jul 6th 2010 6:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/06/nintendo-sega-controllers-and-carts-find-a-new-home-in-the-retr/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/06/nintendo-sega-controllers-and-carts-find-a-new-home-in-the-retr/Jul 6th 2010 6:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/06/nintendo-sega-controllers-and-carts-find-a-new-home-in-the-retr/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/06/nintendo-sega-controllers-and-carts-find-a-new-home-in-the-retr/Cartridges. See the 3 slots?]]>Jul 6th 2010 6:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/06/nintendo-sega-controllers-and-carts-find-a-new-home-in-the-retr/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/06/nintendo-sega-controllers-and-carts-find-a-new-home-in-the-retr/
Dude, I mean are the systems emulated, not the games. Obviously the slots are there for the actual cartridges.]]>Jul 6th 2010 6:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/06/nintendo-sega-controllers-and-carts-find-a-new-home-in-the-retr/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/06/nintendo-sega-controllers-and-carts-find-a-new-home-in-the-retr/
If someone could hack this somehow and load it with ROMs, I would easily pay $100!]]>Jul 6th 2010 6:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/06/nintendo-sega-controllers-and-carts-find-a-new-home-in-the-retr/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/06/nintendo-sega-controllers-and-carts-find-a-new-home-in-the-retr/Jul 6th 2010 7:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/06/nintendo-sega-controllers-and-carts-find-a-new-home-in-the-retr/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/06/nintendo-sega-controllers-and-carts-find-a-new-home-in-the-retr/
You'd need a central processor capable of emulating the consoles in question, plus some kind of OS, plus the emulators to be written for said processor architecture and OS. That's a lot of work for a KIRF.

No, these retro/knockoff consoles almost always use System-on-a-chip designs that basically incorporate all the processors of the systems on a single chip, so they aren't really "emulation", just super miniaturized versions of the old console.

Hence why this thing has a knob on the front that selects the system - what you're actually doing is selecting which of the 3 chips to boot up and run from. It's pretty ingenious, actually.

The only downside of these consoles is that the SoC designs usually mean incompatibility with certain games (NES Castlevania 3, for example) due to the knockoff aspect of the chips not authentically duplicating the functionality of the original console. Whereas a properly written emulator would have almost no incompatibility problems.]]>Jul 6th 2010 7:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/06/nintendo-sega-controllers-and-carts-find-a-new-home-in-the-retr/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/06/nintendo-sega-controllers-and-carts-find-a-new-home-in-the-retr/Jul 6th 2010 7:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/06/nintendo-sega-controllers-and-carts-find-a-new-home-in-the-retr/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/06/nintendo-sega-controllers-and-carts-find-a-new-home-in-the-retr/
Will just have to wait till some one takes it apart to see what chips are inside I guess...hopefully]]>Jul 6th 2010 7:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/06/nintendo-sega-controllers-and-carts-find-a-new-home-in-the-retr/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/06/nintendo-sega-controllers-and-carts-find-a-new-home-in-the-retr/
Machines like this are almost always notoriously bad at playing even the games they do play... sounds are different or missing, slowdown where there's none in the original machine, etc.

I'd probably rather play either an emulator or the real thing... none of these consoles are all that expensive. I'm sure you could get all three for $70. Yeah, it's convenient having them all in one box, but if the tradeoff is incompatibilities and poor fidelity, I'd rather have a few more wires.
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it is very similar to emulation.. Quite moreso than other comments will have you to believe.

The software was not intended to run on ANY other hardware than the destination hardware. Therefore this actually emulation.

The only reason they consider PC/handheld emulation a crime is because the original cartridge is not on hand.

Laymans terms= Hardware that can play the cart/cd is okay.

Hardware than can play the image of cart/cd is okay.

Having the cart/cd image is not okay. !!!Even!!! if you own the original copy of the software.

I hate how they make me feel like I've stolen something I've already paid for. I gave hard worked for cash to these people. Yet they judge me a thief if I have a ROM/CD image.

They need us. We do not need them. The way my girlfriend looks right now highlights that fact.]]>Jul 6th 2010 10:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/06/nintendo-sega-controllers-and-carts-find-a-new-home-in-the-retr/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/06/nintendo-sega-controllers-and-carts-find-a-new-home-in-the-retr/Jul 6th 2010 10:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/06/nintendo-sega-controllers-and-carts-find-a-new-home-in-the-retr/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/06/nintendo-sega-controllers-and-carts-find-a-new-home-in-the-retr/]]>Jul 7th 2010 3:52AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/06/nintendo-sega-controllers-and-carts-find-a-new-home-in-the-retr/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/06/nintendo-sega-controllers-and-carts-find-a-new-home-in-the-retr/
This site/company is apparently located in California so I just have a feeling the systems are more emulation based than hardware based because of the potential lawsuits. The systems might actually be licensed by Nintendo and Sega but it just seems so unlikely. I could be completely wrong about my comments, too. That is always a possibility, too lol]]>Jul 7th 2010 4:45AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/06/nintendo-sega-controllers-and-carts-find-a-new-home-in-the-retr/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/06/nintendo-sega-controllers-and-carts-find-a-new-home-in-the-retr/Jul 6th 2010 6:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/06/nintendo-sega-controllers-and-carts-find-a-new-home-in-the-retr/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/06/nintendo-sega-controllers-and-carts-find-a-new-home-in-the-retr/Jul 6th 2010 6:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/06/nintendo-sega-controllers-and-carts-find-a-new-home-in-the-retr/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/06/nintendo-sega-controllers-and-carts-find-a-new-home-in-the-retr/Jul 6th 2010 6:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/06/nintendo-sega-controllers-and-carts-find-a-new-home-in-the-retr/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/06/nintendo-sega-controllers-and-carts-find-a-new-home-in-the-retr/Jul 6th 2010 7:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/06/nintendo-sega-controllers-and-carts-find-a-new-home-in-the-retr/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/06/nintendo-sega-controllers-and-carts-find-a-new-home-in-the-retr/
LOL

I wonder when wii's virtual console will get "Exo Squad"(Genesis) and "Metal Storm" (Nes)]]>Jul 6th 2010 8:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/06/nintendo-sega-controllers-and-carts-find-a-new-home-in-the-retr/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/06/nintendo-sega-controllers-and-carts-find-a-new-home-in-the-retr/By "Emulator" he meant...

"Is the thing inside actually three physical consoles, or is it a single chip with emulators on it that can read the cartridges, and pretend to be the target system."

not "Ooh, aah, gimme da roms."]]>Jul 7th 2010 4:01AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/06/nintendo-sega-controllers-and-carts-find-a-new-home-in-the-retr/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/06/nintendo-sega-controllers-and-carts-find-a-new-home-in-the-retr/Jul 7th 2010 9:03AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/06/nintendo-sega-controllers-and-carts-find-a-new-home-in-the-retr/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/06/nintendo-sega-controllers-and-carts-find-a-new-home-in-the-retr/Jul 6th 2010 6:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/06/nintendo-sega-controllers-and-carts-find-a-new-home-in-the-retr/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/06/nintendo-sega-controllers-and-carts-find-a-new-home-in-the-retr/
... tho i never owned a SNES or Sega (o my childhood)]]>Jul 6th 2010 6:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/06/nintendo-sega-controllers-and-carts-find-a-new-home-in-the-retr/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/06/nintendo-sega-controllers-and-carts-find-a-new-home-in-the-retr/Jul 6th 2010 6:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/06/nintendo-sega-controllers-and-carts-find-a-new-home-in-the-retr/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/06/nintendo-sega-controllers-and-carts-find-a-new-home-in-the-retr/Jul 6th 2010 6:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/06/nintendo-sega-controllers-and-carts-find-a-new-home-in-the-retr/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/06/nintendo-sega-controllers-and-carts-find-a-new-home-in-the-retr/
80's ... and 90's.]]>Jul 6th 2010 6:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/06/nintendo-sega-controllers-and-carts-find-a-new-home-in-the-retr/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/06/nintendo-sega-controllers-and-carts-find-a-new-home-in-the-retr/Jul 6th 2010 6:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/06/nintendo-sega-controllers-and-carts-find-a-new-home-in-the-retr/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/06/nintendo-sega-controllers-and-carts-find-a-new-home-in-the-retr/Jul 6th 2010 6:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/06/nintendo-sega-controllers-and-carts-find-a-new-home-in-the-retr/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/06/nintendo-sega-controllers-and-carts-find-a-new-home-in-the-retr/
;)]]>Jul 6th 2010 6:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/06/nintendo-sega-controllers-and-carts-find-a-new-home-in-the-retr/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/06/nintendo-sega-controllers-and-carts-find-a-new-home-in-the-retr/Jul 6th 2010 6:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/06/nintendo-sega-controllers-and-carts-find-a-new-home-in-the-retr/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/06/nintendo-sega-controllers-and-carts-find-a-new-home-in-the-retr/Jul 6th 2010 7:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/06/nintendo-sega-controllers-and-carts-find-a-new-home-in-the-retr/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/06/nintendo-sega-controllers-and-carts-find-a-new-home-in-the-retr/Quit posting this stupid shit, you fucking moron.]]>Jul 6th 2010 7:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/06/nintendo-sega-controllers-and-carts-find-a-new-home-in-the-retr/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/06/nintendo-sega-controllers-and-carts-find-a-new-home-in-the-retr/Jul 6th 2010 7:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/06/nintendo-sega-controllers-and-carts-find-a-new-home-in-the-retr/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/06/nintendo-sega-controllers-and-carts-find-a-new-home-in-the-retr/Jul 6th 2010 7:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/06/nintendo-sega-controllers-and-carts-find-a-new-home-in-the-retr/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/06/nintendo-sega-controllers-and-carts-find-a-new-home-in-the-retr/Uhh, either means a choice between two, not three... it should be "any of those three systems."]]>Jul 6th 2010 7:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/06/nintendo-sega-controllers-and-carts-find-a-new-home-in-the-retr/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/06/nintendo-sega-controllers-and-carts-find-a-new-home-in-the-retr/Jul 6th 2010 7:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/06/nintendo-sega-controllers-and-carts-find-a-new-home-in-the-retr/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/06/nintendo-sega-controllers-and-carts-find-a-new-home-in-the-retr/Jul 6th 2010 8:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/06/nintendo-sega-controllers-and-carts-find-a-new-home-in-the-retr/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/06/nintendo-sega-controllers-and-carts-find-a-new-home-in-the-retr/Jul 6th 2010 8:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/06/nintendo-sega-controllers-and-carts-find-a-new-home-in-the-retr/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/06/nintendo-sega-controllers-and-carts-find-a-new-home-in-the-retr/
Sumer metriod
Super Mario world
Secret of mana
and I think Donkey Kong

Wouldnt run on it, which IMHO makes it useless.

That aside the wireless controllers and 3-in-1 design makes it pretty hot (technically 4 in 1 as the 16bit sega can play 8bit games)]]>Jul 6th 2010 8:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/06/nintendo-sega-controllers-and-carts-find-a-new-home-in-the-retr/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/06/nintendo-sega-controllers-and-carts-find-a-new-home-in-the-retr/Didn't the Genesis need some peripheral called the Power base converter to play 8-bit games?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mega_Drive#Master_System_compatibility]]>Jul 6th 2010 10:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/06/nintendo-sega-controllers-and-carts-find-a-new-home-in-the-retr/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/06/nintendo-sega-controllers-and-carts-find-a-new-home-in-the-retr/
That is what I mean by "the 16bit sega can play the 8bit games".

As they were both coded on the same mainframe the converter litterally just let the master system carts fit into the megadrive/genesis cart hole.]]>Jul 8th 2010 6:56AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/06/nintendo-sega-controllers-and-carts-find-a-new-home-in-the-retr/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/06/nintendo-sega-controllers-and-carts-find-a-new-home-in-the-retr/Jul 6th 2010 8:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/06/nintendo-sega-controllers-and-carts-find-a-new-home-in-the-retr/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/06/nintendo-sega-controllers-and-carts-find-a-new-home-in-the-retr/I'm guessing you didn't get headaches from it before, so you might want to go to a doctor. That or stop playing SNES games on a 52in TV from 4ft away using composite cables.]]>Jul 6th 2010 9:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/06/nintendo-sega-controllers-and-carts-find-a-new-home-in-the-retr/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/06/nintendo-sega-controllers-and-carts-find-a-new-home-in-the-retr/
Wouldn't have those per pixel shaders if it wasn't for the original pixels. ]]>Jul 6th 2010 9:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/06/nintendo-sega-controllers-and-carts-find-a-new-home-in-the-retr/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/06/nintendo-sega-controllers-and-carts-find-a-new-home-in-the-retr/
Jesus, the *SNES* gives you headaches with its bad graphics?

Some of us have been gaming since the Atari 2600. And I can still play those games. SNES games look great to me. That was near the end of the 2D era, so it doesn't get a whole lot better, unless you look at the few 2D games for the Saturn and Dreamcast (for some reason Sega's 3D consoles always had more 2D games than their competitors - probably because of the extra VRAM they had).

The Dreamcast's 2D games are probably as good as it gets, but the SNES was no slouch when it came to certain types of games, especially RPG's.
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I once watch my cousin play the original PlayStation and mistaken it for a cheap SNES game due to it's quality. Right now I have Virtual Bart in my SNES, that game looks great after all these years.

After seeing some of the late game on the SNES, I felt that system never reach it's peak. Donkey Kong Country had gotten it's graphics without using the FX chip.]]>Jul 7th 2010 12:37AM