http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/froyo-versus-ios-4-the-browser-showdown-video/ Engadget Comments for Android 2.2 (Froyo) versus iOS 4: the browser showdown (video) http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/froyo-versus-ios-4-the-browser-showdown-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/froyo-versus-ios-4-the-browser-showdown-video/Ars is comparing Javascript performance. You guys only do a web-page loading test. Not even the same thing, yet you're comparing this with Ars'? :rolleyes:]]>Jul 7th 2010 2:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/froyo-versus-ios-4-the-browser-showdown-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/froyo-versus-ios-4-the-browser-showdown-video/
A win is a win no matter how you look at it.

PWNED!]]>Jul 7th 2010 2:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/froyo-versus-ios-4-the-browser-showdown-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/froyo-versus-ios-4-the-browser-showdown-video/Jul 7th 2010 2:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/froyo-versus-ios-4-the-browser-showdown-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/froyo-versus-ios-4-the-browser-showdown-video/
Not to mention Nexus One has to load up flash content, yet it still keeps up/ wins. To me, the Nexus One browser looks a lot faster.]]>Jul 7th 2010 2:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/froyo-versus-ios-4-the-browser-showdown-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/froyo-versus-ios-4-the-browser-showdown-video/
true.
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/news/2010/07/android-22-demolishes-ios4-in-javascript-benchmarks.ars

in case you guys want to educate yourself or just wait until your daddy steve says what he thinks..like always.]]>Jul 7th 2010 2:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/froyo-versus-ios-4-the-browser-showdown-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/froyo-versus-ios-4-the-browser-showdown-video/
Yeah, this seems like a VERY weak comparison. Not really worthy of the moniker "showdown". Sorry, Engadget. ]]>Jul 7th 2010 2:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/froyo-versus-ios-4-the-browser-showdown-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/froyo-versus-ios-4-the-browser-showdown-video/
So both tests served their purpose. Ars specifically looked at javascript speed, which has only a small portion to do with actual page load speed. Engadget did a page load test.]]>Jul 7th 2010 2:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/froyo-versus-ios-4-the-browser-showdown-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/froyo-versus-ios-4-the-browser-showdown-video/That's because engadget is extremely biased in favor of Apple. They are an AOL company for goodness sake.]]>Jul 7th 2010 2:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/froyo-versus-ios-4-the-browser-showdown-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/froyo-versus-ios-4-the-browser-showdown-video/Jul 7th 2010 2:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/froyo-versus-ios-4-the-browser-showdown-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/froyo-versus-ios-4-the-browser-showdown-video/Apple]]>Jul 7th 2010 2:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/froyo-versus-ios-4-the-browser-showdown-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/froyo-versus-ios-4-the-browser-showdown-video/Jul 7th 2010 2:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/froyo-versus-ios-4-the-browser-showdown-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/froyo-versus-ios-4-the-browser-showdown-video/Jul 7th 2010 2:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/froyo-versus-ios-4-the-browser-showdown-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/froyo-versus-ios-4-the-browser-showdown-video/Jul 7th 2010 2:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/froyo-versus-ios-4-the-browser-showdown-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/froyo-versus-ios-4-the-browser-showdown-video/
To Engadgets benefit though, js performance doesn't make or break the speed of loading a website. Sure Android processes it faster, but they're still both on the same pipe downloading files at the same speed which probably accounts for 95% or more of your web surfing experience.

BTW, I'm no fan of the iPhone so Go Android!! Kick it's Ass!!! (I'm not a big fan of Android either but an enemy of my enemy is my friend). Go webOS!!!!]]>Jul 7th 2010 2:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/froyo-versus-ios-4-the-browser-showdown-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/froyo-versus-ios-4-the-browser-showdown-video/Jul 7th 2010 2:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/froyo-versus-ios-4-the-browser-showdown-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/froyo-versus-ios-4-the-browser-showdown-video/ Enable plug-ins -> and select the "On demand" option. This way, any flash objects will load up only after you press on the little green arrow in place of the flash object. It's magic I tell you! ]]>Jul 7th 2010 2:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/froyo-versus-ios-4-the-browser-showdown-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/froyo-versus-ios-4-the-browser-showdown-video/
This doesn't make the javascript benchmark any less valid, it's just showing that the massive win in a javascript benchmark by Android means very little in typical browsing.]]>Jul 7th 2010 2:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/froyo-versus-ios-4-the-browser-showdown-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/froyo-versus-ios-4-the-browser-showdown-video/Jul 7th 2010 2:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/froyo-versus-ios-4-the-browser-showdown-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/froyo-versus-ios-4-the-browser-showdown-video/microsoft]]>Jul 7th 2010 2:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/froyo-versus-ios-4-the-browser-showdown-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/froyo-versus-ios-4-the-browser-showdown-video/Jul 7th 2010 2:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/froyo-versus-ios-4-the-browser-showdown-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/froyo-versus-ios-4-the-browser-showdown-video/
Oh and BTW, arstechnica vas talking about JS performance not HTML and this is clearly and HTML rendering performance test...]]>Jul 7th 2010 2:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/froyo-versus-ios-4-the-browser-showdown-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/froyo-versus-ios-4-the-browser-showdown-video/Jul 7th 2010 2:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/froyo-versus-ios-4-the-browser-showdown-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/froyo-versus-ios-4-the-browser-showdown-video/Jul 7th 2010 2:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/froyo-versus-ios-4-the-browser-showdown-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/froyo-versus-ios-4-the-browser-showdown-video/Jul 7th 2010 2:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/froyo-versus-ios-4-the-browser-showdown-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/froyo-versus-ios-4-the-browser-showdown-video/Jul 7th 2010 2:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/froyo-versus-ios-4-the-browser-showdown-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/froyo-versus-ios-4-the-browser-showdown-video/
Both of these phones are winners compared to my aging Blackberry Curve.

I'd be happy with either of them!]]>Jul 7th 2010 2:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/froyo-versus-ios-4-the-browser-showdown-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/froyo-versus-ios-4-the-browser-showdown-video/
Froyo even blows the ipad out of the water in javascript performance. Websites will vary depending on how complex they are. I suspect all the google sites will show much better performance than iphone/ipad because they are javascript heavy. And with all the emphasis Apple places on html5, when more sites move to it, froyo will likely show better performance too, so it's a win win for Google.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/3794/the-iphone-4-review/12]]>Jul 7th 2010 2:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/froyo-versus-ios-4-the-browser-showdown-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/froyo-versus-ios-4-the-browser-showdown-video/Jul 7th 2010 2:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/froyo-versus-ios-4-the-browser-showdown-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/froyo-versus-ios-4-the-browser-showdown-video/Jul 7th 2010 2:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/froyo-versus-ios-4-the-browser-showdown-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/froyo-versus-ios-4-the-browser-showdown-video/.> And the iPhone seems to the overall winner.]]>Jul 7th 2010 2:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/froyo-versus-ios-4-the-browser-showdown-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/froyo-versus-ios-4-the-browser-showdown-video/Jul 7th 2010 2:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/froyo-versus-ios-4-the-browser-showdown-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/froyo-versus-ios-4-the-browser-showdown-video/Agreed. Gimme Froyo for Moto Droid!]]>Jul 7th 2010 2:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/froyo-versus-ios-4-the-browser-showdown-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/froyo-versus-ios-4-the-browser-showdown-video/Jul 7th 2010 2:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/froyo-versus-ios-4-the-browser-showdown-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/froyo-versus-ios-4-the-browser-showdown-video/Jul 7th 2010 2:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/froyo-versus-ios-4-the-browser-showdown-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/froyo-versus-ios-4-the-browser-showdown-video/
I'm an Android user and I don't see Engadget trying to diminish ArsTechnica's tests.
The way I read that sentence is that someone might look at Ars Technica's results and think that during real-life browsing pages will load significantly faster in Froyo, but in reality the difference is not as pronounced. That's why they wrote "Ars Technica's benchmarks suggest." Engad even clarified they weren't trying to suggest Ars did their benchmarks incorrectly...]]>Jul 7th 2010 2:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/froyo-versus-ios-4-the-browser-showdown-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/froyo-versus-ios-4-the-browser-showdown-video/
Engadget could have easily turned off the Flash and done a REAL comparison.]]>Jul 7th 2010 2:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/froyo-versus-ios-4-the-browser-showdown-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/froyo-versus-ios-4-the-browser-showdown-video/Well, I wanted to point out more about Engadget's comment about Ars' test: "Still, this is far from the massive performance jump that Ars Technica's benchmarks suggest." I'm not siding with Android nor iOS. Engadget could just do their test without saying that comment about Ars', and things would be fine.

Let's say Anandtech did a gaming benchmark of an nVidia vs ATI video card, and said nVidia is faster by x fps. And then a gadget blog came in and do a test of both video cards by measuring loading times of the games, and pointed out to Anandtech's test that the nVidia card is not that much faster. That's how I feel when I read that Engadget's comment.]]>Jul 7th 2010 3:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/froyo-versus-ios-4-the-browser-showdown-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/froyo-versus-ios-4-the-browser-showdown-video/Jul 7th 2010 3:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/froyo-versus-ios-4-the-browser-showdown-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/froyo-versus-ios-4-the-browser-showdown-video/
My bad, didn't peep the second vid.]]>Jul 7th 2010 3:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/froyo-versus-ios-4-the-browser-showdown-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/froyo-versus-ios-4-the-browser-showdown-video/
Did you read the article?]]>Jul 7th 2010 3:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/froyo-versus-ios-4-the-browser-showdown-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/froyo-versus-ios-4-the-browser-showdown-video/
Engadget never claimed to be performing the same test. What they're pointing out is that a large percentage number in a very tightly focused benchmark can provide a misleading impression when compared to what you actually experience in typical use.

(I don't use Android or iOS. But I do hate the ridiculous over-reliance on Javascript benchmarks that's inexplicably crept into the browser industry, so thanks Engadget for resisting it.)]]>Jul 7th 2010 3:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/froyo-versus-ios-4-the-browser-showdown-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/froyo-versus-ios-4-the-browser-showdown-video/
We share a relative anyway(Linux)]]>Jul 7th 2010 3:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/froyo-versus-ios-4-the-browser-showdown-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/froyo-versus-ios-4-the-browser-showdown-video/
Incorrect, how about those web apps that Google so kindly offers and has gotten their steamroll from in conjunction with their search domination?? Even made MS consider web apps, because FREE, mostly reliable, accessible from anywhere apps beat paid, half-working, integrated BS anyday. And when HTML5 gets its big pushes in the coming years, this will make a HUGE difference.

Remember, Google specializes in software engineering... and Apple. They are exceptional in hardware but software -- not so much (bar doctoring for 3 generations, N *just now* figuring that, huh Apple?)]]>Jul 7th 2010 3:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/froyo-versus-ios-4-the-browser-showdown-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/froyo-versus-ios-4-the-browser-showdown-video/
Just a load of shit software and shit computers.

Ten years ago apple was about to go belly up. However, Steve Jobs came back to company and the rest is history.

Respect, the decade of their ascension and the possibility for change in the future.

Disclosure: I do not really like apple products. I only own a 4th gen iPod flashed with rockbox because I do not like apple's restrictive software.]]>Jul 7th 2010 3:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/froyo-versus-ios-4-the-browser-showdown-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/froyo-versus-ios-4-the-browser-showdown-video/Jul 7th 2010 3:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/froyo-versus-ios-4-the-browser-showdown-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/froyo-versus-ios-4-the-browser-showdown-video/Keeping in mind that the Nexus One is 6 months older, running on a weaker processor (consequently with a weaker GPU as well), using Wi-Fi G at 54Mbps (rather than WiFi N at 300Mbps or more on the iPhone), loading flash , and if you look closely, Richard Lai is pressing the iPhone barely earlier at times(forgiveable, seeing as Richard is only Human). Yet the Nexus one still ties or beats the new iPhone at all? If that isn't a testament to the rapetastic speed of Froyo then I don't know what is.

Android won this test by one of the largest margins I have ever seen in a browser/performance test.]]>Jul 7th 2010 3:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/froyo-versus-ios-4-the-browser-showdown-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/froyo-versus-ios-4-the-browser-showdown-video/Jul 7th 2010 3:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/froyo-versus-ios-4-the-browser-showdown-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/froyo-versus-ios-4-the-browser-showdown-video/Jul 7th 2010 3:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/froyo-versus-ios-4-the-browser-showdown-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/froyo-versus-ios-4-the-browser-showdown-video/http://news.softpedia.com/news/Android-2-2-Froyo-Takes-Its-Share-of-the-Android-Pie-146128.shtml]]>Jul 7th 2010 3:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/froyo-versus-ios-4-the-browser-showdown-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/froyo-versus-ios-4-the-browser-showdown-video/
Based on some hands-on videos I've watched on this site, it seems many of the main Engadget editors don't know how to use an Android phone nearly as well as an iPhone.

I would have liked to apply for the SF job (so the staff has at least one full-blown Android user) but I know I'm not that great of a writer.]]>Jul 7th 2010 3:19PM