http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/t-mobile-and-htc-to-launch-first-21mbps-hspa-smartphone-in-sept/ Engadget Comments for http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/t-mobile-and-htc-to-launch-first-21mbps-hspa-smartphone-in-sept/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/t-mobile-and-htc-to-launch-first-21mbps-hspa-smartphone-in-sept/Jul 7th 2010 5:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/t-mobile-and-htc-to-launch-first-21mbps-hspa-smartphone-in-sept/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/t-mobile-and-htc-to-launch-first-21mbps-hspa-smartphone-in-sept/Nope, people are already getting those speeds on rocket sticks. The limitations were entirely the phone's hardware.]]>Jul 7th 2010 5:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/t-mobile-and-htc-to-launch-first-21mbps-hspa-smartphone-in-sept/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/t-mobile-and-htc-to-launch-first-21mbps-hspa-smartphone-in-sept/Wow and I just switched from t mobile to sprint to get the Evo]]>Jul 7th 2010 5:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/t-mobile-and-htc-to-launch-first-21mbps-hspa-smartphone-in-sept/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/t-mobile-and-htc-to-launch-first-21mbps-hspa-smartphone-in-sept/
That's a lot of internetz.]]>Jul 7th 2010 5:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/t-mobile-and-htc-to-launch-first-21mbps-hspa-smartphone-in-sept/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/t-mobile-and-htc-to-launch-first-21mbps-hspa-smartphone-in-sept/Jul 7th 2010 5:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/t-mobile-and-htc-to-launch-first-21mbps-hspa-smartphone-in-sept/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/t-mobile-and-htc-to-launch-first-21mbps-hspa-smartphone-in-sept/We'll see how fast it is in the real world. Anybody have a youtube video of HSPA+ getting faster than 8mbps on speedtest.net?]]>Jul 7th 2010 5:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/t-mobile-and-htc-to-launch-first-21mbps-hspa-smartphone-in-sept/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/t-mobile-and-htc-to-launch-first-21mbps-hspa-smartphone-in-sept/
GarryTEED! (yes)]]>Jul 7th 2010 5:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/t-mobile-and-htc-to-launch-first-21mbps-hspa-smartphone-in-sept/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/t-mobile-and-htc-to-launch-first-21mbps-hspa-smartphone-in-sept/
*jizz*]]>Jul 7th 2010 5:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/t-mobile-and-htc-to-launch-first-21mbps-hspa-smartphone-in-sept/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/t-mobile-and-htc-to-launch-first-21mbps-hspa-smartphone-in-sept/
Too late T-Mobile I already canceled & are awaiting my Droid X.

Reasons:
1) Too late on the high-end phones
2) LTE > HSPA+
3) Better Verizon network: I know how you play the game T-Mobile. You update every other one of your 2G towers to 3G, with giant holes in your network.]]>Jul 7th 2010 7:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/t-mobile-and-htc-to-launch-first-21mbps-hspa-smartphone-in-sept/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/t-mobile-and-htc-to-launch-first-21mbps-hspa-smartphone-in-sept/
This is the Nexus Enterprise that Andy Rubin said was in the works on day one. Everything about this design screams Nexus and Desire.

The HTC Vision is a 4.3" Pixel Qi phone with a dual core processor, probably Tegra-based. It is also the "first 21 mbps" device the article is talking about.

I hope the keyboard on the Vision is better than the one on the Nexus Enterprise (pictured), at least make it as good as the Epic's, which is really epic.]]>Jul 7th 2010 7:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/t-mobile-and-htc-to-launch-first-21mbps-hspa-smartphone-in-sept/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/t-mobile-and-htc-to-launch-first-21mbps-hspa-smartphone-in-sept/Jul 7th 2010 7:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/t-mobile-and-htc-to-launch-first-21mbps-hspa-smartphone-in-sept/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/t-mobile-and-htc-to-launch-first-21mbps-hspa-smartphone-in-sept/Jul 7th 2010 8:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/t-mobile-and-htc-to-launch-first-21mbps-hspa-smartphone-in-sept/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/t-mobile-and-htc-to-launch-first-21mbps-hspa-smartphone-in-sept/Jul 7th 2010 8:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/t-mobile-and-htc-to-launch-first-21mbps-hspa-smartphone-in-sept/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/t-mobile-and-htc-to-launch-first-21mbps-hspa-smartphone-in-sept/
T-Mo haven't get their 3g right, talking about HSPA+. I leave T-Mo because the 3g suck and I live in a hugely covered area.]]>Jul 7th 2010 10:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/t-mobile-and-htc-to-launch-first-21mbps-hspa-smartphone-in-sept/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/t-mobile-and-htc-to-launch-first-21mbps-hspa-smartphone-in-sept/I saw someone on pocketnow.com show results of just over 8 Mbps, I believe it was on a Nexus One, but I don't remember. But I haven't seen speed any higher than that. But that is still better then most people experience with Wimax.]]>Jul 8th 2010 1:54AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/t-mobile-and-htc-to-launch-first-21mbps-hspa-smartphone-in-sept/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/t-mobile-and-htc-to-launch-first-21mbps-hspa-smartphone-in-sept/Jul 7th 2010 5:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/t-mobile-and-htc-to-launch-first-21mbps-hspa-smartphone-in-sept/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/t-mobile-and-htc-to-launch-first-21mbps-hspa-smartphone-in-sept/Jul 7th 2010 5:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/t-mobile-and-htc-to-launch-first-21mbps-hspa-smartphone-in-sept/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/t-mobile-and-htc-to-launch-first-21mbps-hspa-smartphone-in-sept/Jul 7th 2010 5:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/t-mobile-and-htc-to-launch-first-21mbps-hspa-smartphone-in-sept/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/t-mobile-and-htc-to-launch-first-21mbps-hspa-smartphone-in-sept/Same the keyboard just looks too cramped but hopefully they'll change it anyways by the time it's released. ]]>Jul 7th 2010 5:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/t-mobile-and-htc-to-launch-first-21mbps-hspa-smartphone-in-sept/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/t-mobile-and-htc-to-launch-first-21mbps-hspa-smartphone-in-sept/
Maybe I'm blind but I see 4 rows....]]>Jul 7th 2010 5:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/t-mobile-and-htc-to-launch-first-21mbps-hspa-smartphone-in-sept/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/t-mobile-and-htc-to-launch-first-21mbps-hspa-smartphone-in-sept/Jul 7th 2010 5:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/t-mobile-and-htc-to-launch-first-21mbps-hspa-smartphone-in-sept/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/t-mobile-and-htc-to-launch-first-21mbps-hspa-smartphone-in-sept/That is a 4-row keyboard and the Touch Pro 2 has a 5 row keyboard.]]>Jul 7th 2010 6:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/t-mobile-and-htc-to-launch-first-21mbps-hspa-smartphone-in-sept/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/t-mobile-and-htc-to-launch-first-21mbps-hspa-smartphone-in-sept/Jul 7th 2010 5:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/t-mobile-and-htc-to-launch-first-21mbps-hspa-smartphone-in-sept/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/t-mobile-and-htc-to-launch-first-21mbps-hspa-smartphone-in-sept/
dont forget tethering no need to pay time warner for home service.]]>Jul 8th 2010 2:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/t-mobile-and-htc-to-launch-first-21mbps-hspa-smartphone-in-sept/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/t-mobile-and-htc-to-launch-first-21mbps-hspa-smartphone-in-sept/Jul 7th 2010 5:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/t-mobile-and-htc-to-launch-first-21mbps-hspa-smartphone-in-sept/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/t-mobile-and-htc-to-launch-first-21mbps-hspa-smartphone-in-sept/Jul 7th 2010 5:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/t-mobile-and-htc-to-launch-first-21mbps-hspa-smartphone-in-sept/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/t-mobile-and-htc-to-launch-first-21mbps-hspa-smartphone-in-sept/Jul 7th 2010 5:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/t-mobile-and-htc-to-launch-first-21mbps-hspa-smartphone-in-sept/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/t-mobile-and-htc-to-launch-first-21mbps-hspa-smartphone-in-sept/Jul 7th 2010 5:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/t-mobile-and-htc-to-launch-first-21mbps-hspa-smartphone-in-sept/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/t-mobile-and-htc-to-launch-first-21mbps-hspa-smartphone-in-sept/Jul 7th 2010 5:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/t-mobile-and-htc-to-launch-first-21mbps-hspa-smartphone-in-sept/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/t-mobile-and-htc-to-launch-first-21mbps-hspa-smartphone-in-sept/LTE is offering 100 mbits in its current specification]]>Jul 7th 2010 6:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/t-mobile-and-htc-to-launch-first-21mbps-hspa-smartphone-in-sept/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/t-mobile-and-htc-to-launch-first-21mbps-hspa-smartphone-in-sept/
Because it will be a world phone, unlike the EVO 4G and the EPIC 4G.]]>Jul 7th 2010 7:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/t-mobile-and-htc-to-launch-first-21mbps-hspa-smartphone-in-sept/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/t-mobile-and-htc-to-launch-first-21mbps-hspa-smartphone-in-sept/"HSPA+ is actually faster than LTE"
Why does so many clueless people spread bullshit?
the docs for 3GPP release 8 aka LTE (which is actually 3.9G, "LTE Advanced" will be the first real 4G service) specify:

* Peak download rates of 326.4 Mbit/s for 4x4 antennas, and 172.8 Mbit/s for 2x2 antennas (utilizing 20 MHz of spectrum)
* Peak upload rates of 86.4 Mbit/s for every 20 MHz of spectrum using a single antenna.

HSPA+ is a great incremental step because converting all the UMTS towers to LTE is a major undertaking, but it is not even close to what LTE and LTE advanced will be capable of.]]>Jul 7th 2010 7:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/t-mobile-and-htc-to-launch-first-21mbps-hspa-smartphone-in-sept/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/t-mobile-and-htc-to-launch-first-21mbps-hspa-smartphone-in-sept/

You sure buddy? You haven't obviously try Sprint/Verizon and ATT 3g for say. It's much faster than T-Mo 3g and 4g kill all the 3g in-term of speed.]]>Jul 7th 2010 10:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/t-mobile-and-htc-to-launch-first-21mbps-hspa-smartphone-in-sept/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/t-mobile-and-htc-to-launch-first-21mbps-hspa-smartphone-in-sept/
Ok, you guys pull out your LTE phones, and then @ObsceneJesster can pull out his HSPA+ phone and we'll see which one is the fastest.

OK, GO!

Wait...whut? You don't have LTE phones? Oh, then I guess there is a difference between Actual > Lab > Theoretical speeds eh? Clearly he states that LTE would pass HSPA+ and that it supports more bandwidth.

Just not today.

Please don't try to race your theoretical vs. real life ponies: Pegasus always beats Secretariat, but also loses since only one of them was real. ]]>Jul 8th 2010 8:36AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/t-mobile-and-htc-to-launch-first-21mbps-hspa-smartphone-in-sept/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/t-mobile-and-htc-to-launch-first-21mbps-hspa-smartphone-in-sept/
Sorry buddy, you're wrong about your assumptions. yeah maybe you should try all of them out for yourself before you comment cd.]]>Jul 8th 2010 10:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/t-mobile-and-htc-to-launch-first-21mbps-hspa-smartphone-in-sept/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/t-mobile-and-htc-to-launch-first-21mbps-hspa-smartphone-in-sept/i have used all four carriers, and the other 3 best tmobile in both speed and signal. just my 2c]]>Jul 29th 2010 1:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/t-mobile-and-htc-to-launch-first-21mbps-hspa-smartphone-in-sept/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/t-mobile-and-htc-to-launch-first-21mbps-hspa-smartphone-in-sept/
On Android Centrals podcast last week they said they spoke to HTC and T-Mobile reps about the device coming out in Q4. They revealed that it would be the first device to ship with Gingerbread and the first to pack a duel core CPU. They also said the screen would be 4.3 in.]]>Jul 7th 2010 5:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/t-mobile-and-htc-to-launch-first-21mbps-hspa-smartphone-in-sept/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/t-mobile-and-htc-to-launch-first-21mbps-hspa-smartphone-in-sept/
Nexus 2? Would be nice...]]>Jul 7th 2010 5:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/t-mobile-and-htc-to-launch-first-21mbps-hspa-smartphone-in-sept/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/t-mobile-and-htc-to-launch-first-21mbps-hspa-smartphone-in-sept/
http://androidandme.com/2010/07/news/google-ceo-nixes-nexus-two/]]>Jul 7th 2010 5:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/t-mobile-and-htc-to-launch-first-21mbps-hspa-smartphone-in-sept/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/t-mobile-and-htc-to-launch-first-21mbps-hspa-smartphone-in-sept/
Yeah, I have no idea why Engadget didn't pick up that story because it's pretty informative.

3 Motorola's and 3 HTC phones by November, I'd say that is pretty good! ]]>Jul 7th 2010 6:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/t-mobile-and-htc-to-launch-first-21mbps-hspa-smartphone-in-sept/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/t-mobile-and-htc-to-launch-first-21mbps-hspa-smartphone-in-sept/
Sadly, Google reply "hell no".]]>Jul 7th 2010 10:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/t-mobile-and-htc-to-launch-first-21mbps-hspa-smartphone-in-sept/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/t-mobile-and-htc-to-launch-first-21mbps-hspa-smartphone-in-sept/

Yes, HSPA+ is faster now, but GSM tech fails when it scales. As more people get on HSPA+, the speeds will come to a crawl compared to WiMax as it scales better.

Geez, if Tmo offers early upgrades from a G1, then Vibrant (this month) vs. Vision (next month) -- hummingbird, gorgeous screen + smooth video or tegra, 2x download speeds, and a keyboard!!!
DECISIONS DECISIONS#$!%?

Then again, if Tmo does NOT offer early upgrades, all of us early adopters are nearing the end of our 2yr contract (Nov): that 4th qtr device better be one helluva phone.]]>Jul 8th 2010 3:46AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/t-mobile-and-htc-to-launch-first-21mbps-hspa-smartphone-in-sept/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/t-mobile-and-htc-to-launch-first-21mbps-hspa-smartphone-in-sept/
Thats maybe becuase it is still not official, maybe its just a fake.]]>Jul 8th 2010 3:49AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/t-mobile-and-htc-to-launch-first-21mbps-hspa-smartphone-in-sept/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/t-mobile-and-htc-to-launch-first-21mbps-hspa-smartphone-in-sept/Jul 7th 2010 5:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/t-mobile-and-htc-to-launch-first-21mbps-hspa-smartphone-in-sept/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/t-mobile-and-htc-to-launch-first-21mbps-hspa-smartphone-in-sept/Jul 7th 2010 5:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/t-mobile-and-htc-to-launch-first-21mbps-hspa-smartphone-in-sept/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/t-mobile-and-htc-to-launch-first-21mbps-hspa-smartphone-in-sept/Jul 7th 2010 5:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/t-mobile-and-htc-to-launch-first-21mbps-hspa-smartphone-in-sept/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/t-mobile-and-htc-to-launch-first-21mbps-hspa-smartphone-in-sept/Jul 7th 2010 5:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/t-mobile-and-htc-to-launch-first-21mbps-hspa-smartphone-in-sept/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/t-mobile-and-htc-to-launch-first-21mbps-hspa-smartphone-in-sept/Jul 7th 2010 5:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/t-mobile-and-htc-to-launch-first-21mbps-hspa-smartphone-in-sept/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/t-mobile-and-htc-to-launch-first-21mbps-hspa-smartphone-in-sept/Jul 7th 2010 5:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/t-mobile-and-htc-to-launch-first-21mbps-hspa-smartphone-in-sept/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/07/t-mobile-and-htc-to-launch-first-21mbps-hspa-smartphone-in-sept/Jul 7th 2010 5:30PM