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Yes. Lol]]>Jul 9th 2010 7:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/09/iphone-atandt-exclusivity-lawsuit-granted-class-action-certificati/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/09/iphone-atandt-exclusivity-lawsuit-granted-class-action-certificati/Jul 9th 2010 7:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/09/iphone-atandt-exclusivity-lawsuit-granted-class-action-certificati/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/09/iphone-atandt-exclusivity-lawsuit-granted-class-action-certificati/
Youll get like 50 bucks.

No wonder they changes their name to Apple Inc.]]>Jul 9th 2010 7:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/09/iphone-atandt-exclusivity-lawsuit-granted-class-action-certificati/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/09/iphone-atandt-exclusivity-lawsuit-granted-class-action-certificati/
Not to contradict engadget, but I think the argument here is that if you bought an original iphone and signed the 2 year contract if you didn't want to, or couldn't afford another phone after those two years you would still be forced to use AT&T, thus turning the 2 year contract into an effective 5 year one.

Once could also argue since the iPhone syncs personal data with iTunes the only way to save that personal data to a new phone is by syncing it with a new iPhone (if you are following the TOC to the strictest form), thus forcing you to buy another one and again, locking you in for longer than the agreed 2 years]]>Jul 9th 2010 7:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/09/iphone-atandt-exclusivity-lawsuit-granted-class-action-certificati/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/09/iphone-atandt-exclusivity-lawsuit-granted-class-action-certificati/
No one is getting more than $5.00.... believe it!

Seriously... I can't believe this is a real lawsuit. Since when do you get in trouble for a handset being exclusive to a carrier?? There are tons of devices that are only available on one carrier, why all of a sudden is Apple the one getting nailed for it?? Or did I miss something...?]]>Jul 9th 2010 7:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/09/iphone-atandt-exclusivity-lawsuit-granted-class-action-certificati/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/09/iphone-atandt-exclusivity-lawsuit-granted-class-action-certificati/
I don't give a shit if AT&T and Apple signed a five-year deal or not. But after I have paid out my subsidy and my contract is over I should be able to use my phone with any GSM carrier. I'm siding with the plaintiffs on this one. ]]>Jul 9th 2010 7:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/09/iphone-atandt-exclusivity-lawsuit-granted-class-action-certificati/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/09/iphone-atandt-exclusivity-lawsuit-granted-class-action-certificati/
Apparently being able to unlock your iPhone from AT&T so you can go to T-Mobile's EDGE network to experience even slower speeds and worse coverage is the anti-Apple cause de jour. Another such victory and I come back to Epirus alone.

The only reason I can think of are people moving to Canada or other overseas destinations who would like to use their perfectly serviceable phones on overseas networks. I can buy an unlocked from the factory iPhone over here to do that but the US can't.]]>Jul 9th 2010 7:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/09/iphone-atandt-exclusivity-lawsuit-granted-class-action-certificati/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/09/iphone-atandt-exclusivity-lawsuit-granted-class-action-certificati/
Someone has to get rich out of this (and the lawyers seem to be the leading candidates)]]>Jul 9th 2010 7:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/09/iphone-atandt-exclusivity-lawsuit-granted-class-action-certificati/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/09/iphone-atandt-exclusivity-lawsuit-granted-class-action-certificati/Jul 9th 2010 7:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/09/iphone-atandt-exclusivity-lawsuit-granted-class-action-certificati/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/09/iphone-atandt-exclusivity-lawsuit-granted-class-action-certificati/
By the way, LTE supports all previous techs (2G, 3G, 3.5G) and is a stepping-stone platform to 4G.

If you want iPhone on other carriers in the US, go cry to the damn carriers to get their LTE networks up and running NAO!!!]]>Jul 9th 2010 7:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/09/iphone-atandt-exclusivity-lawsuit-granted-class-action-certificati/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/09/iphone-atandt-exclusivity-lawsuit-granted-class-action-certificati/
Getting the iPhone was just a secondary benefit.]]>Jul 9th 2010 7:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/09/iphone-atandt-exclusivity-lawsuit-granted-class-action-certificati/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/09/iphone-atandt-exclusivity-lawsuit-granted-class-action-certificati/
Also no one ever said it was only a 2 year contract with ATT so why would they assume it was. That's on them for that mistake

Since they never said it was 2 years, there's no false advertising. Since there's no 'iphone market' it's not antitrust as one group claimed. And there's no law against the exclusive contract.

If these folks want to make a change, get the exclusive contract laws revoked and make locking illegal. And while they are at it, change the ETF laws to require accurate pro-rating and reduction of your bill after the contract period. ]]>Jul 9th 2010 7:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/09/iphone-atandt-exclusivity-lawsuit-granted-class-action-certificati/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/09/iphone-atandt-exclusivity-lawsuit-granted-class-action-certificati/
They are - Engadget simply chose not to report on that aspect. That's really the crux of this case. Fine, after two years I don't have to buy a new phone, but I can't take the phone I did by to a different carrier? Hmm...seems monopolistic.]]>Jul 9th 2010 7:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/09/iphone-atandt-exclusivity-lawsuit-granted-class-action-certificati/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/09/iphone-atandt-exclusivity-lawsuit-granted-class-action-certificati/Jul 9th 2010 7:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/09/iphone-atandt-exclusivity-lawsuit-granted-class-action-certificati/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/09/iphone-atandt-exclusivity-lawsuit-granted-class-action-certificati/
I can get the unlocked phone here (NZ), but apple screw us in different ways. tethering is only available on the nominated carrier, vodafone. if you go to telecom or two degrees, no tethering.

unlocked indeed]]>Jul 9th 2010 8:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/09/iphone-atandt-exclusivity-lawsuit-granted-class-action-certificati/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/09/iphone-atandt-exclusivity-lawsuit-granted-class-action-certificati/Jul 9th 2010 8:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/09/iphone-atandt-exclusivity-lawsuit-granted-class-action-certificati/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/09/iphone-atandt-exclusivity-lawsuit-granted-class-action-certificati/Jul 9th 2010 8:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/09/iphone-atandt-exclusivity-lawsuit-granted-class-action-certificati/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/09/iphone-atandt-exclusivity-lawsuit-granted-class-action-certificati/
I just wish other phone manufacturers would say forget you AT&T and let them just have their iPhone glory. Exclusivity is stupid when it's one of the most sought after devices on one of the most gawd awful cellular networks around. Teach Apple and AT&T a lesson about how isolated 2 people with "exclusivity" can be.

The way we are tied into contracts for cell phone plans has to be in my "Top 5 things I hate about living in the US".]]>Jul 9th 2010 8:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/09/iphone-atandt-exclusivity-lawsuit-granted-class-action-certificati/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/09/iphone-atandt-exclusivity-lawsuit-granted-class-action-certificati/
But, new cell phones are almost always available for free with a contract, so you're not stuck with the iphone or at&t

And all the "personal data" that iTunes syncs is is synced with your address book and contact programs (or outlook on PC) so they are not locked or even stored in itunes...]]>Jul 9th 2010 9:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/09/iphone-atandt-exclusivity-lawsuit-granted-class-action-certificati/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/09/iphone-atandt-exclusivity-lawsuit-granted-class-action-certificati/Jul 9th 2010 9:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/09/iphone-atandt-exclusivity-lawsuit-granted-class-action-certificati/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/09/iphone-atandt-exclusivity-lawsuit-granted-class-action-certificati/Jul 9th 2010 9:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/09/iphone-atandt-exclusivity-lawsuit-granted-class-action-certificati/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/09/iphone-atandt-exclusivity-lawsuit-granted-class-action-certificati/Jul 9th 2010 9:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/09/iphone-atandt-exclusivity-lawsuit-granted-class-action-certificati/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/09/iphone-atandt-exclusivity-lawsuit-granted-class-action-certificati/This is absolutely STUPID. Phone manufacturers have launched exclusives with a carrier for fucking YEARS!!!! Easy one, the Sidekick @ T-Mobile. I don't see a bunch of dumbasses suing T-Mobile because they thought the Sidekick would be on Verizon, AT&T or Nextel after a year or two.

Lawyers are just after money here. Simple truth.]]>Jul 9th 2010 9:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/09/iphone-atandt-exclusivity-lawsuit-granted-class-action-certificati/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/09/iphone-atandt-exclusivity-lawsuit-granted-class-action-certificati/
Have you used an iPhone?

You can sync your personal data with Exchange, Google, Outlook address book, windows address book, Apple's address book etc.

It's right their in iTunes pick the one's you want.

Get a new phone and use that phones software to sync with Exchange, Google, Outlook address book, windows address book, Apple's address book etc

Ignorance is bliss]]>Jul 9th 2010 9:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/09/iphone-atandt-exclusivity-lawsuit-granted-class-action-certificati/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/09/iphone-atandt-exclusivity-lawsuit-granted-class-action-certificati/Jul 9th 2010 9:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/09/iphone-atandt-exclusivity-lawsuit-granted-class-action-certificati/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/09/iphone-atandt-exclusivity-lawsuit-granted-class-action-certificati/
Looks like you're the nooblet and didn't read my post. LTE stands for Long Term Evolution and it's the PLATFORM to move to 4G speeds. Go do your research.]]>Jul 9th 2010 11:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/09/iphone-atandt-exclusivity-lawsuit-granted-class-action-certificati/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/09/iphone-atandt-exclusivity-lawsuit-granted-class-action-certificati/
When buying an iphone, you sign a two year contract for full access to a subsidized phone. You agree to a two year contract in exchange for that access. What isn't in that contract, is that you must stick with the carrier a minimum of 5 years (for first-gen owners) if you want to use the phone. Essentially, if you wanted to buy a first gen iphone, you were inadvertently forced into a 5 year contract, losing the ability to use the phone you purchased after 2 years unless you wanted to stay with AT&T.]]>Jul 9th 2010 11:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/09/iphone-atandt-exclusivity-lawsuit-granted-class-action-certificati/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/09/iphone-atandt-exclusivity-lawsuit-granted-class-action-certificati/Jul 9th 2010 11:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/09/iphone-atandt-exclusivity-lawsuit-granted-class-action-certificati/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/09/iphone-atandt-exclusivity-lawsuit-granted-class-action-certificati/Jul 9th 2010 11:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/09/iphone-atandt-exclusivity-lawsuit-granted-class-action-certificati/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/09/iphone-atandt-exclusivity-lawsuit-granted-class-action-certificati/
Verizon is launching their LTE network this year!]]>Jul 9th 2010 11:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/09/iphone-atandt-exclusivity-lawsuit-granted-class-action-certificati/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/09/iphone-atandt-exclusivity-lawsuit-granted-class-action-certificati/
Yes, I know, they are turning it on in October/November and Apple can launch it at that time but I'll stick to saying iPhone on Verizon in 2011 when the iPhone 4G is announced.]]>Jul 10th 2010 12:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/09/iphone-atandt-exclusivity-lawsuit-granted-class-action-certificati/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/09/iphone-atandt-exclusivity-lawsuit-granted-class-action-certificati/Thank you! This is exactly the reason for the Class Action Lawsuit. Because unlike in other countries where apple is forced to either sell an unlocked version or unlock the phone once their contract (and as a result subsidy) expires they are locking you in to AT&T. Because if you take your iphone after your contract expires and you try to use it on T-mobile or if you move to another country and put in any other GSM Sim card, it just wont work. ]]>Jul 10th 2010 1:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/09/iphone-atandt-exclusivity-lawsuit-granted-class-action-certificati/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/09/iphone-atandt-exclusivity-lawsuit-granted-class-action-certificati/Plazimic:

You're comments are BS. The manufacturers of the phones should be forced to put competing 3G radios in the phones so that after a contract is up, the owner of the phone can choose a different carrier if he will. I guess that after a 2 year contract and $500 or more spent on the phone that the phone still belongs to the carrier that sold it to you. ]]>Jul 10th 2010 1:55AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/09/iphone-atandt-exclusivity-lawsuit-granted-class-action-certificati/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/09/iphone-atandt-exclusivity-lawsuit-granted-class-action-certificati/Jul 10th 2010 2:12AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/09/iphone-atandt-exclusivity-lawsuit-granted-class-action-certificati/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/09/iphone-atandt-exclusivity-lawsuit-granted-class-action-certificati/Guys, read the Wired article, it explains it a lot better. The main premise of this case is that the exclusivity contract does not allow AT&T to unlock the phone after your 2 year contract is up. Therefore, in order to use a phone you bought 2 years ago, you would have to stay on AT&T's network.]]>Jul 10th 2010 2:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/09/iphone-atandt-exclusivity-lawsuit-granted-class-action-certificati/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/09/iphone-atandt-exclusivity-lawsuit-granted-class-action-certificati/
Good god the idiot factor in these discussions is off the chart. Have you people ever shopped for a phone before? Or are you nothing more than armchair internet warriors slobbering all over your keyboards? Anyone who's ever really shopped for a phone would know you can buy any phone without a contract!]]>Jul 10th 2010 3:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/09/iphone-atandt-exclusivity-lawsuit-granted-class-action-certificati/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/09/iphone-atandt-exclusivity-lawsuit-granted-class-action-certificati/
I totally disagree with you, Apple made the right decision to put the radios that are currently in the iPhone. Understand this: IT'S NOTE APPLES FAULT THAT OTHER CARRIERS DECIDED TO INVEST IN NOT SO POPULAR RADIO TECH.

T-Mobile's 3G freq, 1700 (also knowns AWS) is not popular at all right now and Verizon/Sprint's CDMA is a dying tech.

Apple went with true GSM so that you could travel anywhere and be able to use the iPhone where ever you want. What you're asking for is for Apple to specifically make an iPhone to cater to the USA market which I don't see them doing since they haven't done that anywhere else in the world.

In other countries where the iPhone is available on one carrier, people just ah, you know, move to that carrier because they want the phone. Apple is not going to waste money making multiple iPhones. It will be one version that can work everywhere and they have chosen their radio freqs.]]>Jul 10th 2010 6:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/09/iphone-atandt-exclusivity-lawsuit-granted-class-action-certificati/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/09/iphone-atandt-exclusivity-lawsuit-granted-class-action-certificati/You can buy a contract-free iPhone in the USA , but it is still locked to AT&T ]]>Jul 10th 2010 6:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/09/iphone-atandt-exclusivity-lawsuit-granted-class-action-certificati/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/09/iphone-atandt-exclusivity-lawsuit-granted-class-action-certificati/Jul 10th 2010 11:14AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/09/iphone-atandt-exclusivity-lawsuit-granted-class-action-certificati/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/09/iphone-atandt-exclusivity-lawsuit-granted-class-action-certificati/
This case is rididculous. If you want to stay with iOS you have to stay with AT&T, yes. But you aren't being locked in for 5 years like the lawsuit suggests. if you don't want to be on AT&T, don't get an iPhone, it's not that complicated. By virtue of making a decision, you have automatically given other things up. Every choice you in your life, every single one has an opportunity cost, this is no different. You want an iPhone, you give up Verizon, Sprint, T-mobile. You want a Droid X, you give up AT&T, Sprint, T-mobile. And so on.]]>Jul 10th 2010 6:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/09/iphone-atandt-exclusivity-lawsuit-granted-class-action-certificati/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/09/iphone-atandt-exclusivity-lawsuit-granted-class-action-certificati/
Wanting to be able to have an official iPhone unlock isn't an anti-Apple cause de jour. It's something people have wanted as soon as the iPhone was first released, and not as some pointless way of hassling Apple. At the least, I think a good argument can be made for Apple to supply an official unlock after an iPhone owner has been through their two-year contract, at which point they've paid the subsidized cost of their iPhone.

You yourself supply in your second paragraph one good reason why many people want to be able to have an unlocked iPhone, without having to go through all the hassle of using hacking utils to do so. Also, many people don't want a data plan, so for them voice and text on T-Mobile is fine (which is what I do with my iPhone), especially since the cost is much cheaper than going with ATT, who will force you to get one of ATT's data plans if you want to use even an unlocked, fully-paid-for iPhone with ATT.]]>Jul 10th 2010 7:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/09/iphone-atandt-exclusivity-lawsuit-granted-class-action-certificati/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/09/iphone-atandt-exclusivity-lawsuit-granted-class-action-certificati/
again, clearly a nooblet. please downrank this fool... ]]>Jul 10th 2010 9:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/09/iphone-atandt-exclusivity-lawsuit-granted-class-action-certificati/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/09/iphone-atandt-exclusivity-lawsuit-granted-class-action-certificati/Jul 11th 2010 12:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/09/iphone-atandt-exclusivity-lawsuit-granted-class-action-certificati/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/09/iphone-atandt-exclusivity-lawsuit-granted-class-action-certificati/Jul 11th 2010 2:37AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/09/iphone-atandt-exclusivity-lawsuit-granted-class-action-certificati/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/09/iphone-atandt-exclusivity-lawsuit-granted-class-action-certificati/
No, I went in and signed a two year contract. They told me two years. BUT, if I wanted to keep my iPhone but not be on ATT, I wouldn't be able to because ATT refuses to unlock iPhones. Get it? That's why people are annoyed. It basically boils down to either: keep your iPhone and all of your stuff for five years of ATT, or stop using your iPhone for phone business and move to a differen carrier.

I bought the damn thing. When my contract is up, I should be able to use it however I want.]]>Jul 11th 2010 10:54AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/09/iphone-atandt-exclusivity-lawsuit-granted-class-action-certificati/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/09/iphone-atandt-exclusivity-lawsuit-granted-class-action-certificati/Jul 9th 2010 7:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/09/iphone-atandt-exclusivity-lawsuit-granted-class-action-certificati/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/09/iphone-atandt-exclusivity-lawsuit-granted-class-action-certificati/Jul 9th 2010 7:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/09/iphone-atandt-exclusivity-lawsuit-granted-class-action-certificati/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/09/iphone-atandt-exclusivity-lawsuit-granted-class-action-certificati/Jul 9th 2010 7:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/09/iphone-atandt-exclusivity-lawsuit-granted-class-action-certificati/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/09/iphone-atandt-exclusivity-lawsuit-granted-class-action-certificati/Jul 9th 2010 7:10PM