http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/12/consumer-reports-confirms-iphone-4-antenna-problems-and-so-do/ Engadget Comments for http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/12/consumer-reports-confirms-iphone-4-antenna-problems-and-so-do/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/12/consumer-reports-confirms-iphone-4-antenna-problems-and-so-do/Jul 12th 2010 1:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/12/consumer-reports-confirms-iphone-4-antenna-problems-and-so-do/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/12/consumer-reports-confirms-iphone-4-antenna-problems-and-so-do/mine works just fine.]]>Jul 12th 2010 1:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/12/consumer-reports-confirms-iphone-4-antenna-problems-and-so-do/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/12/consumer-reports-confirms-iphone-4-antenna-problems-and-so-do/
you spent a few paychecks on a defective phone, so we know you have to keep telling yourself that.]]>Jul 12th 2010 1:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/12/consumer-reports-confirms-iphone-4-antenna-problems-and-so-do/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/12/consumer-reports-confirms-iphone-4-antenna-problems-and-so-do/Jul 12th 2010 1:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/12/consumer-reports-confirms-iphone-4-antenna-problems-and-so-do/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/12/consumer-reports-confirms-iphone-4-antenna-problems-and-so-do/The issue is real, and a real pain in the ass. I used my original iPhone for almost three years, and never with a case. True, I can get better reception on the iPhone4 than I could with the 1st gen model, but if I'm not careful with the way I hold it, I get worse. Having to buy an accessory to make the product work in a reasonable way is criminal.]]>Jul 12th 2010 1:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/12/consumer-reports-confirms-iphone-4-antenna-problems-and-so-do/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/12/consumer-reports-confirms-iphone-4-antenna-problems-and-so-do/
guys its ok. Steve Jobs told me that you can buy a case, and waste your own money, to POSSIBLY allow your defective phone to make phone calls!]]>Jul 12th 2010 1:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/12/consumer-reports-confirms-iphone-4-antenna-problems-and-so-do/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/12/consumer-reports-confirms-iphone-4-antenna-problems-and-so-do/maybe you make minimum wage at your local Foot Locker, but $200 is hardly "a few paychecks" for most people (including myself). And my phone gets perfectly fine reception, and I've been increasingly less able to duplicate the signal-loss issue. Just my experience.]]>Jul 12th 2010 1:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/12/consumer-reports-confirms-iphone-4-antenna-problems-and-so-do/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/12/consumer-reports-confirms-iphone-4-antenna-problems-and-so-do/
I heard Apple is planning on pushing a software fix that blocks consumer reports from showing up on your phone. That will fix the problem right?]]>Jul 12th 2010 1:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/12/consumer-reports-confirms-iphone-4-antenna-problems-and-so-do/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/12/consumer-reports-confirms-iphone-4-antenna-problems-and-so-do/Jul 12th 2010 1:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/12/consumer-reports-confirms-iphone-4-antenna-problems-and-so-do/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/12/consumer-reports-confirms-iphone-4-antenna-problems-and-so-do/Jul 12th 2010 1:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/12/consumer-reports-confirms-iphone-4-antenna-problems-and-so-do/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/12/consumer-reports-confirms-iphone-4-antenna-problems-and-so-do/
The guy who lost the iPhone4 at a bar, Gray Powell, is a baseband engineer for Apple.

Just how shitty must his life be right about now?]]>Jul 12th 2010 1:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/12/consumer-reports-confirms-iphone-4-antenna-problems-and-so-do/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/12/consumer-reports-confirms-iphone-4-antenna-problems-and-so-do/
Leave it to engadget to bury the relevant point:

They RETRACT their recommendation!]]>Jul 12th 2010 1:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/12/consumer-reports-confirms-iphone-4-antenna-problems-and-so-do/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/12/consumer-reports-confirms-iphone-4-antenna-problems-and-so-do/I can see the issue, but it doesn't affect me because, though I use my left hand to hold the phone, I can't stand holding the phone in a way that drops the signal, I have yet to have a dropped call. On another note, I can reproduce the issue with my iPhone 3G (which was replaced less than a month ago due to the case cracking).]]>Jul 12th 2010 1:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/12/consumer-reports-confirms-iphone-4-antenna-problems-and-so-do/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/12/consumer-reports-confirms-iphone-4-antenna-problems-and-so-do/Jul 12th 2010 1:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/12/consumer-reports-confirms-iphone-4-antenna-problems-and-so-do/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/12/consumer-reports-confirms-iphone-4-antenna-problems-and-so-do/Will you guys put up a fair review based on all of these reports? Or will users be mislead by relying on your iPhone 4 review that doesn't even mention these problems?]]>Jul 12th 2010 1:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/12/consumer-reports-confirms-iphone-4-antenna-problems-and-so-do/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/12/consumer-reports-confirms-iphone-4-antenna-problems-and-so-do/
No it doesn't]]>Jul 12th 2010 1:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/12/consumer-reports-confirms-iphone-4-antenna-problems-and-so-do/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/12/consumer-reports-confirms-iphone-4-antenna-problems-and-so-do/I've been suspecting there was never a problem with AT&T's network from the get go but this only serves to further my belief that it's been apple's fault, always has been.
Been on AT&T since 2007 and I don't have any issues with service unless I'm underground.]]>Jul 12th 2010 1:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/12/consumer-reports-confirms-iphone-4-antenna-problems-and-so-do/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/12/consumer-reports-confirms-iphone-4-antenna-problems-and-so-do/
actually, they paid me.

sold my 3gs for $250
bought the iphone 4 for $199 + tax.
netted roughly $20.

vote me down all you like... i can see the signal meter drop when i hold it the way everyone is complaining about... but ive yet to drop a call. ]]>Jul 12th 2010 1:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/12/consumer-reports-confirms-iphone-4-antenna-problems-and-so-do/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/12/consumer-reports-confirms-iphone-4-antenna-problems-and-so-do/Jul 12th 2010 1:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/12/consumer-reports-confirms-iphone-4-antenna-problems-and-so-do/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/12/consumer-reports-confirms-iphone-4-antenna-problems-and-so-do/Jul 12th 2010 1:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/12/consumer-reports-confirms-iphone-4-antenna-problems-and-so-do/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/12/consumer-reports-confirms-iphone-4-antenna-problems-and-so-do/
I'm not saying the review was wrong (Josh seems very competent), but that part of the article does seem to be...prickly.]]>Jul 12th 2010 1:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/12/consumer-reports-confirms-iphone-4-antenna-problems-and-so-do/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/12/consumer-reports-confirms-iphone-4-antenna-problems-and-so-do/
Since Apple has been dragging it's feet when it comes to resolving this issue it's obvious people have NOT been returning the phone even though they have the ability to. It shows that even though this phone has a major defect people want it enough to ignore it.

I'd like to see Apple offer a free bumper for every phone. It may not be the greatest fix but it's cost efficient for them and can prevent further backlash from the media. ]]>Jul 12th 2010 1:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/12/consumer-reports-confirms-iphone-4-antenna-problems-and-so-do/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/12/consumer-reports-confirms-iphone-4-antenna-problems-and-so-do/
Including restocking fee and the ETF on my ATT contract? Cool!

Now we can all go to Verizon and get an Android phone.]]>Jul 12th 2010 1:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/12/consumer-reports-confirms-iphone-4-antenna-problems-and-so-do/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/12/consumer-reports-confirms-iphone-4-antenna-problems-and-so-do/
Anyways, Apple really should announce a recall to these phones. Send them in, coat the band, then send it back. The 30-day policy is also applicable, I believe (though many people prefer that Apple fix it since it is their fault). They might face more class-action lawsuits, but they have enough money to settle these suits if they should arise, don't they?]]>Jul 12th 2010 1:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/12/consumer-reports-confirms-iphone-4-antenna-problems-and-so-do/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/12/consumer-reports-confirms-iphone-4-antenna-problems-and-so-do/
Listen the Fruit n00bs have SUCKED AT ANT/RF Stacks since fruit phone one and it was partially because they didn't want to use proven chip-sets and a know-it-all pighead attitude:
2.5 - had bad network timing issues (I heard that at&t actually had to adjust the network, for one n00b phone, can you believe that?)
3 & 3GS - have awful hyper-band hand-offs (i.e. they suck at switching between Edge & 3G and would rather drop the call).
4 - and now this antenna design debacle which NO amount of signal display finagling will fix!

Said it before and will say it again, there are other phones on the same network, same cell site, same sector (some costing $50 bucks) and they work fine. So the next time you are in the company of an iP4 user complaining about network issues be kind and let em make a mercy call with your $50 Samsung. Sayin...
]]>Jul 12th 2010 1:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/12/consumer-reports-confirms-iphone-4-antenna-problems-and-so-do/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/12/consumer-reports-confirms-iphone-4-antenna-problems-and-so-do/Jul 12th 2010 1:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/12/consumer-reports-confirms-iphone-4-antenna-problems-and-so-do/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/12/consumer-reports-confirms-iphone-4-antenna-problems-and-so-do/Jul 12th 2010 1:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/12/consumer-reports-confirms-iphone-4-antenna-problems-and-so-do/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/12/consumer-reports-confirms-iphone-4-antenna-problems-and-so-do/Jul 12th 2010 1:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/12/consumer-reports-confirms-iphone-4-antenna-problems-and-so-do/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/12/consumer-reports-confirms-iphone-4-antenna-problems-and-so-do/
and AMAZINGLY the Engadget review has this device at a 9/10 with a AWFUL flaw and a phone like Droid X gets a 7 ...Right.]]>Jul 12th 2010 1:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/12/consumer-reports-confirms-iphone-4-antenna-problems-and-so-do/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/12/consumer-reports-confirms-iphone-4-antenna-problems-and-so-do/Are you this stupid? ITS A 20db Signal drop on ALL IPHONE 4's. That doesn't mean you will drop a call, hell, it doesn't even mean you will lose a bar depending on the signal strength, but your just being stupid when you say you don't have it. Get into a weaker area & I will guarantee you loose a couple calls. 20db is alot & will hurt all but the strongest signals. Try getting on the web too & forget ever using videochat (Maybe thats why they don't allow facetime on 3g) since it affects your data speed. Buy a case and say you don't care but don't say your phone is fine Apple has just released over 1.6 million defective devices. ]]>Jul 12th 2010 2:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/12/consumer-reports-confirms-iphone-4-antenna-problems-and-so-do/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/12/consumer-reports-confirms-iphone-4-antenna-problems-and-so-do/this might sound like a bit of a harsh thing to say, but i do like hearing this news. anything that can get steve's attention and get him off his smug pedestal is a good thing. but in reality, it probably wont. apple has its money, they've already received their money from all their rabid apple die hards so they dont care. but if there's anything i HOPE steve does care about, its his rep. and the apple rep is seriously taking a good hit from this. ]]>Jul 12th 2010 2:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/12/consumer-reports-confirms-iphone-4-antenna-problems-and-so-do/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/12/consumer-reports-confirms-iphone-4-antenna-problems-and-so-do/Everyone calm down, its still a 9/10 according to Joshua Jobs Topolski - we shouldn't be concerned (PSHHHH LOSERS)]]>Jul 12th 2010 2:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/12/consumer-reports-confirms-iphone-4-antenna-problems-and-so-do/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/12/consumer-reports-confirms-iphone-4-antenna-problems-and-so-do/
How far up your ass is your iphone lodged?]]>Jul 12th 2010 2:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/12/consumer-reports-confirms-iphone-4-antenna-problems-and-so-do/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/12/consumer-reports-confirms-iphone-4-antenna-problems-and-so-do/and yes he legally changed his middle name this week.]]>Jul 12th 2010 2:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/12/consumer-reports-confirms-iphone-4-antenna-problems-and-so-do/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/12/consumer-reports-confirms-iphone-4-antenna-problems-and-so-do/Jul 12th 2010 2:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/12/consumer-reports-confirms-iphone-4-antenna-problems-and-so-do/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/12/consumer-reports-confirms-iphone-4-antenna-problems-and-so-do/
Engadget it's time you go back and review the iphone again - because there is a real lack of credibility on your part at this point for either of these reasons:

A) You never tested the actual call quality when you were supposed to test and review the iphone 4

B) You don't want to go back and post a negative score because of some bias on your part of apple products

Let's see if you have the journalistic 'balls' to re-review the iphone 4 now that you 'know' of the problems with this phone. I'm betting you dont.]]>Jul 12th 2010 2:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/12/consumer-reports-confirms-iphone-4-antenna-problems-and-so-do/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/12/consumer-reports-confirms-iphone-4-antenna-problems-and-so-do/you know it does explain why he was using a case on it too, not to hide its identity, but to helps its stupid hardware bug! :P]]>Jul 12th 2010 2:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/12/consumer-reports-confirms-iphone-4-antenna-problems-and-so-do/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/12/consumer-reports-confirms-iphone-4-antenna-problems-and-so-do/Jul 12th 2010 2:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/12/consumer-reports-confirms-iphone-4-antenna-problems-and-so-do/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/12/consumer-reports-confirms-iphone-4-antenna-problems-and-so-do/]]>Jul 12th 2010 2:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/12/consumer-reports-confirms-iphone-4-antenna-problems-and-so-do/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/12/consumer-reports-confirms-iphone-4-antenna-problems-and-so-do/
"I'd like to see Apple offer a free bumper for every phone. It may not be the greatest fix but it's cost efficient for them and can prevent further backlash from the media."

While that is an affordable fix, I don't think you'll see it. Problem with it is that you'd only do that if there was a problem with your iPhone. And according to Apple, the only problem was how the bars reflected signal strength. Add to that all of the people who wouldn't want to use a bumper. What do you do for them? Replace/repair the phone?

Essentially, doing ANYTHING short of admitting and fixing properly is opening up a can of worms - no matter how cost-effective and/or well-intentioned.

]]>Jul 12th 2010 2:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/12/consumer-reports-confirms-iphone-4-antenna-problems-and-so-do/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/12/consumer-reports-confirms-iphone-4-antenna-problems-and-so-do/Jul 12th 2010 2:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/12/consumer-reports-confirms-iphone-4-antenna-problems-and-so-do/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/12/consumer-reports-confirms-iphone-4-antenna-problems-and-so-do/
People.... is this really that big of an issue?

I mean, every one of these people willingly and knowingly purchased iPhones... how concerned w/ call quality can they really be?]]>Jul 12th 2010 2:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/12/consumer-reports-confirms-iphone-4-antenna-problems-and-so-do/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/12/consumer-reports-confirms-iphone-4-antenna-problems-and-so-do/
Lol, Engadget becomes a team of scientists when this phone has problems. You guys could probably figure out HTC's real reasons for limiting EVO and Blackberry's resistance to innovate with focus like that lol.]]>Jul 12th 2010 2:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/12/consumer-reports-confirms-iphone-4-antenna-problems-and-so-do/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/12/consumer-reports-confirms-iphone-4-antenna-problems-and-so-do/
"Consumer Reports confirms iPhone 4 antenna problems"

I don't care.

"Consumer Reports tested three iPhone 4s and several other AT&T phones in their RF isolation chamber that simulates varying levels of signal from every carrier, and found that the iPhone 4 was the only handset to suffer signal-loss issues."

I don't care.

"while the iPhone 4 has the "sharpest display and best video camera" of any phone its tested, it simply can't recommend the device until Apple comes up with a permanent and free fix to the antenna problem."

I don't care.

iPhone 4, where is the iPhone 4?]]>Jul 12th 2010 2:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/12/consumer-reports-confirms-iphone-4-antenna-problems-and-so-do/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/12/consumer-reports-confirms-iphone-4-antenna-problems-and-so-do/Jul 12th 2010 2:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/12/consumer-reports-confirms-iphone-4-antenna-problems-and-so-do/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/12/consumer-reports-confirms-iphone-4-antenna-problems-and-so-do/There is clearly a problem with this phone's hardware. However, Apple probably didn't push a knowingly flawed product out to the market. The prototype posted by Gizmodo was disguised in an iPhone 3GS case, which fixed this issue during field tests. Looks like Apple has outdone themselves with this one. This and the Android App Inventor (to combat Apple's overly-complicated XCode -- and I am a developer on several platforms) is going to hurt them way more than any other phone by itself ever could. Even the DROID. Buy an EVO, people!]]>Jul 12th 2010 2:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/12/consumer-reports-confirms-iphone-4-antenna-problems-and-so-do/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/12/consumer-reports-confirms-iphone-4-antenna-problems-and-so-do/Maybe they should have lowered iPhone to a 7 as well being it didn't have iOS5...]]>Jul 12th 2010 2:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/12/consumer-reports-confirms-iphone-4-antenna-problems-and-so-do/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/12/consumer-reports-confirms-iphone-4-antenna-problems-and-so-do/A compilation of various phones dropping bars while being held...
HTC EVO: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uh6pUNY_rv8

HTC Evo Signal Attenuation: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pj2YBYTbag

Samsung Galaxy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPCQdYtPihg
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Droid Incredible: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaDE941PzQk

Droid Incredible (With Network Extender in Room): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpEQH...eature=related

Nexus One: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEIA_lMwqJA
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Nexus One vs. iPhone (start at 1:29): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvMoV4_C4aA

Nexus One: http://posterous.com/getfile/files.p...n_-_iPhone.m4v

Nexus One (after Google's update to correct): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2g5J4qPp54
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