http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/14/zvrs-to-support-live-sign-language-translation-via-iphone-4s-fa/ Engadget Comments for http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/14/zvrs-to-support-live-sign-language-translation-via-iphone-4s-fa/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/14/zvrs-to-support-live-sign-language-translation-via-iphone-4s-fa/Jul 14th 2010 5:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/14/zvrs-to-support-live-sign-language-translation-via-iphone-4s-fa/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/14/zvrs-to-support-live-sign-language-translation-via-iphone-4s-fa/Jul 14th 2010 5:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/14/zvrs-to-support-live-sign-language-translation-via-iphone-4s-fa/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/14/zvrs-to-support-live-sign-language-translation-via-iphone-4s-fa/
http://www.downloadsquad.com/2010/07/14/ichatr-random-iphone-facetime-video-chat/

knock yourself out?............]]>Jul 14th 2010 5:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/14/zvrs-to-support-live-sign-language-translation-via-iphone-4s-fa/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/14/zvrs-to-support-live-sign-language-translation-via-iphone-4s-fa/Jul 14th 2010 5:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/14/zvrs-to-support-live-sign-language-translation-via-iphone-4s-fa/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/14/zvrs-to-support-live-sign-language-translation-via-iphone-4s-fa/
As long as the alley has WiFi coverage!]]>Jul 14th 2010 5:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/14/zvrs-to-support-live-sign-language-translation-via-iphone-4s-fa/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/14/zvrs-to-support-live-sign-language-translation-via-iphone-4s-fa/
Your avatar pic and your comment - they totally give contradictory vibes. Please change at least one of them. ]]>Jul 14th 2010 6:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/14/zvrs-to-support-live-sign-language-translation-via-iphone-4s-fa/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/14/zvrs-to-support-live-sign-language-translation-via-iphone-4s-fa/Jul 14th 2010 8:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/14/zvrs-to-support-live-sign-language-translation-via-iphone-4s-fa/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/14/zvrs-to-support-live-sign-language-translation-via-iphone-4s-fa/
this is stupid. deaf people can text, and its a lot easier than sign language. plus its not easy to sign with 1 hand]]>Jul 14th 2010 10:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/14/zvrs-to-support-live-sign-language-translation-via-iphone-4s-fa/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/14/zvrs-to-support-live-sign-language-translation-via-iphone-4s-fa/Holding your phone like 3 feet in front of you nonstop is a pretty impractical way of talking so I can only see this being useful if you have a stand for the iPhone and are in a place where you can put it on a shelf or something-kinda like how the interpreter lady has her camera mounted pretty far away.
This is of course made more useless by the fact that Facetime doesn't work over 3G anyways so it basically reduces a supposedly mobile phone to something you can only use when you have a shelf and stand to put the phone on, and only in range of wifi.
I can see someone using it when they have to call a landline for some reason or another but if you're gonna chat with your hearing friends this seems like a pretty obnoxious way to do it compared to just texting them. ]]>Jul 15th 2010 12:34AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/14/zvrs-to-support-live-sign-language-translation-via-iphone-4s-fa/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/14/zvrs-to-support-live-sign-language-translation-via-iphone-4s-fa/
You sir, are an idiot. Learn something about ASL and Deaf culture and you'll realize that texting is English and not a Deaf person's primary form of communication.]]>Jul 15th 2010 2:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/14/zvrs-to-support-live-sign-language-translation-via-iphone-4s-fa/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/14/zvrs-to-support-live-sign-language-translation-via-iphone-4s-fa/Jul 15th 2010 6:54AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/14/zvrs-to-support-live-sign-language-translation-via-iphone-4s-fa/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/14/zvrs-to-support-live-sign-language-translation-via-iphone-4s-fa/Jul 15th 2010 10:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/14/zvrs-to-support-live-sign-language-translation-via-iphone-4s-fa/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/14/zvrs-to-support-live-sign-language-translation-via-iphone-4s-fa/Jul 15th 2010 10:11AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/14/zvrs-to-support-live-sign-language-translation-via-iphone-4s-fa/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/14/zvrs-to-support-live-sign-language-translation-via-iphone-4s-fa/
I wonder if it'll censor out some of the more obscene signs.

]]>Jul 14th 2010 5:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/14/zvrs-to-support-live-sign-language-translation-via-iphone-4s-fa/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/14/zvrs-to-support-live-sign-language-translation-via-iphone-4s-fa/Jul 14th 2010 5:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/14/zvrs-to-support-live-sign-language-translation-via-iphone-4s-fa/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/14/zvrs-to-support-live-sign-language-translation-via-iphone-4s-fa/Jul 14th 2010 5:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/14/zvrs-to-support-live-sign-language-translation-via-iphone-4s-fa/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/14/zvrs-to-support-live-sign-language-translation-via-iphone-4s-fa/
It's not dead until it's not a problem]]>Jul 14th 2010 5:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/14/zvrs-to-support-live-sign-language-translation-via-iphone-4s-fa/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/14/zvrs-to-support-live-sign-language-translation-via-iphone-4s-fa/Jul 14th 2010 8:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/14/zvrs-to-support-live-sign-language-translation-via-iphone-4s-fa/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/14/zvrs-to-support-live-sign-language-translation-via-iphone-4s-fa/Jul 14th 2010 5:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/14/zvrs-to-support-live-sign-language-translation-via-iphone-4s-fa/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/14/zvrs-to-support-live-sign-language-translation-via-iphone-4s-fa/
With two hands????]]>Jul 14th 2010 5:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/14/zvrs-to-support-live-sign-language-translation-via-iphone-4s-fa/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/14/zvrs-to-support-live-sign-language-translation-via-iphone-4s-fa/I think he's wondering more exactly how you hold this while you're signing with both of your hands. I suppose you could have it on a little stand, but then that isn't entirely portable.]]>Jul 14th 2010 5:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/14/zvrs-to-support-live-sign-language-translation-via-iphone-4s-fa/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/14/zvrs-to-support-live-sign-language-translation-via-iphone-4s-fa/Jul 14th 2010 6:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/14/zvrs-to-support-live-sign-language-translation-via-iphone-4s-fa/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/14/zvrs-to-support-live-sign-language-translation-via-iphone-4s-fa/
signers can quite effectively sign with one hand. i'm an asl 3 student and i've worked with many deaf people.]]>Jul 14th 2010 6:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/14/zvrs-to-support-live-sign-language-translation-via-iphone-4s-fa/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/14/zvrs-to-support-live-sign-language-translation-via-iphone-4s-fa/Thanks for clearing that up. It's amazing the lengths haters will go to in order to put down what is actually a really nice service. ]]>Jul 14th 2010 6:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/14/zvrs-to-support-live-sign-language-translation-via-iphone-4s-fa/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/14/zvrs-to-support-live-sign-language-translation-via-iphone-4s-fa/
How long until we see trendy FaceTime hands free headsets- a fitted hat with a counterweighted "fishing pole" style boom to hold the phone? Sign me right up... until the iPhone 6 or so features the capability of untethered flight. ]]>Jul 14th 2010 5:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/14/zvrs-to-support-live-sign-language-translation-via-iphone-4s-fa/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/14/zvrs-to-support-live-sign-language-translation-via-iphone-4s-fa/Jul 14th 2010 5:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/14/zvrs-to-support-live-sign-language-translation-via-iphone-4s-fa/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/14/zvrs-to-support-live-sign-language-translation-via-iphone-4s-fa/
about as brilliant as....txt messaging?]]>Jul 14th 2010 5:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/14/zvrs-to-support-live-sign-language-translation-via-iphone-4s-fa/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/14/zvrs-to-support-live-sign-language-translation-via-iphone-4s-fa/Jul 14th 2010 5:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/14/zvrs-to-support-live-sign-language-translation-via-iphone-4s-fa/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/14/zvrs-to-support-live-sign-language-translation-via-iphone-4s-fa/Jul 14th 2010 5:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/14/zvrs-to-support-live-sign-language-translation-via-iphone-4s-fa/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/14/zvrs-to-support-live-sign-language-translation-via-iphone-4s-fa/
What?

Are you proposing friends open messaging to send a text, leave messaging, open facetime to express a delayed reaction, then go back to messaging to send a reply?

That's not convoluted at all!]]>Jul 14th 2010 6:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/14/zvrs-to-support-live-sign-language-translation-via-iphone-4s-fa/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/14/zvrs-to-support-live-sign-language-translation-via-iphone-4s-fa/
If a deaf person is communicating with a hearing person over video, wouldn't both of them have to know sign language already? Otherwise the "conversation" would be one way only, as the hearing person would not be able to sign back...]]>Jul 14th 2010 5:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/14/zvrs-to-support-live-sign-language-translation-via-iphone-4s-fa/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/14/zvrs-to-support-live-sign-language-translation-via-iphone-4s-fa/
No cause all this does is make a 3 way call. It's pretty much you having a facetime call to an interpreter who is on a regular phone call with your friend. Their is no science here.]]>Jul 14th 2010 6:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/14/zvrs-to-support-live-sign-language-translation-via-iphone-4s-fa/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/14/zvrs-to-support-live-sign-language-translation-via-iphone-4s-fa/Please read the article. The service provides an ASL translator.]]>Jul 14th 2010 6:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/14/zvrs-to-support-live-sign-language-translation-via-iphone-4s-fa/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/14/zvrs-to-support-live-sign-language-translation-via-iphone-4s-fa/Jul 14th 2010 6:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/14/zvrs-to-support-live-sign-language-translation-via-iphone-4s-fa/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/14/zvrs-to-support-live-sign-language-translation-via-iphone-4s-fa/
I read it. It mentions how the hearing person will hear the translated sign language:
"With the help of a videophone or your computer's webcam, you can make a call with a live translator, who speaks your signed ramblings out loud to the hearing person on the other end"

But I didn't see anything about how the hearing person will talk back to the deaf person. Perhaps there is a speech-to-text function there, but I didn't see it mentioned. I also can't see the video here I am at the moment, in case it's evident there.]]>Jul 14th 2010 7:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/14/zvrs-to-support-live-sign-language-translation-via-iphone-4s-fa/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/14/zvrs-to-support-live-sign-language-translation-via-iphone-4s-fa/
It's actually a simple concept (VI = Video Interpreter)

Deaf person video connection VI voice Hearing person

The VI has both video and voice equipment on his/her station. ]]>Jul 15th 2010 12:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/14/zvrs-to-support-live-sign-language-translation-via-iphone-4s-fa/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/14/zvrs-to-support-live-sign-language-translation-via-iphone-4s-fa/
The hearing person does not talk back to the deaf person. They are speaking by phone to the interpreter, who interprets the message into ASL for the deaf person. Therefore, both the hearing and deaf person are speaking through the interpreter... Does that help?

Also to clear up some misconceptions, texting is not an adequate form of communication for the majority of the Deaf community. Using a VRS service (like this one), utilizes their natural language, some type of sign language, instead of having to use English, which they've never heard.]]>Jul 15th 2010 2:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/14/zvrs-to-support-live-sign-language-translation-via-iphone-4s-fa/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/14/zvrs-to-support-live-sign-language-translation-via-iphone-4s-fa/Jul 14th 2010 5:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/14/zvrs-to-support-live-sign-language-translation-via-iphone-4s-fa/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/14/zvrs-to-support-live-sign-language-translation-via-iphone-4s-fa/Jul 14th 2010 5:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/14/zvrs-to-support-live-sign-language-translation-via-iphone-4s-fa/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/14/zvrs-to-support-live-sign-language-translation-via-iphone-4s-fa/Jul 14th 2010 6:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/14/zvrs-to-support-live-sign-language-translation-via-iphone-4s-fa/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/14/zvrs-to-support-live-sign-language-translation-via-iphone-4s-fa/
why don't u try video calling without talking. would you rather talk or type a message. exactly.]]>Jul 14th 2010 6:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/14/zvrs-to-support-live-sign-language-translation-via-iphone-4s-fa/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/14/zvrs-to-support-live-sign-language-translation-via-iphone-4s-fa/Jul 14th 2010 6:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/14/zvrs-to-support-live-sign-language-translation-via-iphone-4s-fa/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/14/zvrs-to-support-live-sign-language-translation-via-iphone-4s-fa/I guess it's news, but not exactly cutting edge. In my native Finland they've had a service like this for at least four years. It was one of the most obvious application areas when video calls over mobile networks became possible.]]>Jul 14th 2010 6:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/14/zvrs-to-support-live-sign-language-translation-via-iphone-4s-fa/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/14/zvrs-to-support-live-sign-language-translation-via-iphone-4s-fa/Actually this is not really a promotion of the Iphone technical expertise but more or less a service provided by a company. All your doing is facetime chatting a translator who is on a phone call with your friend. The translator is a paid middle man in this setup.]]>Jul 14th 2010 6:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/14/zvrs-to-support-live-sign-language-translation-via-iphone-4s-fa/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/14/zvrs-to-support-live-sign-language-translation-via-iphone-4s-fa/Jul 14th 2010 6:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/14/zvrs-to-support-live-sign-language-translation-via-iphone-4s-fa/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/14/zvrs-to-support-live-sign-language-translation-via-iphone-4s-fa/
Haptic braille app! ]]>Jul 14th 2010 6:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/14/zvrs-to-support-live-sign-language-translation-via-iphone-4s-fa/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/14/zvrs-to-support-live-sign-language-translation-via-iphone-4s-fa/
You actually have something there... patent it before I do! ]]>Jul 14th 2010 6:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/14/zvrs-to-support-live-sign-language-translation-via-iphone-4s-fa/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/14/zvrs-to-support-live-sign-language-translation-via-iphone-4s-fa/
Well, since this is supposed to be using FaceTime ... which is currently Wi-Fi only ... you'd be limited in your portability anyway. I personally wouldn't have trouble setting the phone down on a desk, table or counter while making a call.

But like v3xx said, you can sign with one hand.]]>Jul 14th 2010 6:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/14/zvrs-to-support-live-sign-language-translation-via-iphone-4s-fa/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/14/zvrs-to-support-live-sign-language-translation-via-iphone-4s-fa/Jul 14th 2010 6:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/14/zvrs-to-support-live-sign-language-translation-via-iphone-4s-fa/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/14/zvrs-to-support-live-sign-language-translation-via-iphone-4s-fa/umm i assume you're assuming cell service is out too, otherwise the answer is a text message...
also contrary to popular belief, deaf people can walk to a gas station or fix a flat tire.]]>Jul 14th 2010 8:44PM