http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/amd-has-record-1-65b-second-quarter-still-loses-a-little-money/ Engadget Comments for http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/amd-has-record-1-65b-second-quarter-still-loses-a-little-money/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/amd-has-record-1-65b-second-quarter-still-loses-a-little-money/Jul 16th 2010 8:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/amd-has-record-1-65b-second-quarter-still-loses-a-little-money/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/amd-has-record-1-65b-second-quarter-still-loses-a-little-money/Their 4000 series is great as well. I have to 4850HD and it's great, yes it can run crysis :)]]>Jul 16th 2010 8:32AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/amd-has-record-1-65b-second-quarter-still-loses-a-little-money/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/amd-has-record-1-65b-second-quarter-still-loses-a-little-money/
I've bought Intel CPU's the last few years but ATi graphics, The 4000 and 5000 series are great cards.

I'd bet a large amount of AMD's profits came in from it's ATi department.]]>Jul 16th 2010 8:52AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/amd-has-record-1-65b-second-quarter-still-loses-a-little-money/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/amd-has-record-1-65b-second-quarter-still-loses-a-little-money/
Indeed, I still an Intel guy. I can't comment on the 4000 series since I was NVIDIA till this generation of cards for a good few years, but this generation i found myself extremely impressed with ATIs 5800 series specifically, as i was planning a build at pretty much the same few weeks of the 5850/5870 launch, I went with two 5850s, absolutely brilliant cards (managed to get them for £200 each (xfx) versus the current £250 each).

]]>Jul 16th 2010 8:56AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/amd-has-record-1-65b-second-quarter-still-loses-a-little-money/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/amd-has-record-1-65b-second-quarter-still-loses-a-little-money/AMD's hexa core processor's have a lot of "bang fo yo bukk," or that's at least how my cheap asian hooker puts it]]>Jul 16th 2010 9:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/amd-has-record-1-65b-second-quarter-still-loses-a-little-money/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/amd-has-record-1-65b-second-quarter-still-loses-a-little-money/
Yeah - AMD are doing great things with their CPUs too - I just think for my sort of usage, Intel's high end 1366 CPUs are what suit me best.

But yeah, AMD are certainly doing good with what they can, of course they don't have the budget and resources of Intel so progression maybe doesn't match theirs all the time, but they work to their strengths without doing the company any damage.]]>Jul 16th 2010 9:07AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/amd-has-record-1-65b-second-quarter-still-loses-a-little-money/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/amd-has-record-1-65b-second-quarter-still-loses-a-little-money/Jul 16th 2010 6:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/amd-has-record-1-65b-second-quarter-still-loses-a-little-money/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/amd-has-record-1-65b-second-quarter-still-loses-a-little-money/Jul 16th 2010 8:36AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/amd-has-record-1-65b-second-quarter-still-loses-a-little-money/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/amd-has-record-1-65b-second-quarter-still-loses-a-little-money/hey you gotta start somewhere... lol]]>Jul 16th 2010 8:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/amd-has-record-1-65b-second-quarter-still-loses-a-little-money/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/amd-has-record-1-65b-second-quarter-still-loses-a-little-money/Jul 16th 2010 8:40AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/amd-has-record-1-65b-second-quarter-still-loses-a-little-money/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/amd-has-record-1-65b-second-quarter-still-loses-a-little-money/Not that it really helped the shareholders like myself. The stock hasn't done anything in more than 10 years. ]]>Jul 16th 2010 8:51AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/amd-has-record-1-65b-second-quarter-still-loses-a-little-money/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/amd-has-record-1-65b-second-quarter-still-loses-a-little-money/engineers > shareholders
and intel has some of the best in the world]]>Jul 16th 2010 9:00AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/amd-has-record-1-65b-second-quarter-still-loses-a-little-money/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/amd-has-record-1-65b-second-quarter-still-loses-a-little-money/
So does AMD ;) Just wait and see...]]>Jul 16th 2010 9:36AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/amd-has-record-1-65b-second-quarter-still-loses-a-little-money/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/amd-has-record-1-65b-second-quarter-still-loses-a-little-money/
And cancelled their ridiculous Larabee graphics card project.
Once GPU compute really take off on Windows 7 and Snow Leopard, Intel might get left behind very quickly.]]>Jul 16th 2010 10:00AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/amd-has-record-1-65b-second-quarter-still-loses-a-little-money/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/amd-has-record-1-65b-second-quarter-still-loses-a-little-money/
You do realise AMD was founded by Intel engineers don't you ?]]>Jul 16th 2010 10:00AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/amd-has-record-1-65b-second-quarter-still-loses-a-little-money/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/amd-has-record-1-65b-second-quarter-still-loses-a-little-money/Jul 16th 2010 10:33AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/amd-has-record-1-65b-second-quarter-still-loses-a-little-money/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/amd-has-record-1-65b-second-quarter-still-loses-a-little-money/Jul 16th 2010 10:44AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/amd-has-record-1-65b-second-quarter-still-loses-a-little-money/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/amd-has-record-1-65b-second-quarter-still-loses-a-little-money/Jul 16th 2010 10:59AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/amd-has-record-1-65b-second-quarter-still-loses-a-little-money/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/amd-has-record-1-65b-second-quarter-still-loses-a-little-money/
AMD also has a habit of selling defective products as "Budget" product lines. Might have something to do with why Intel does better.]]>Jul 16th 2010 11:11AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/amd-has-record-1-65b-second-quarter-still-loses-a-little-money/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/amd-has-record-1-65b-second-quarter-still-loses-a-little-money/
No, that's called being intelligent. Maximises yields and revenue.]]>Jul 16th 2010 11:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/amd-has-record-1-65b-second-quarter-still-loses-a-little-money/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/amd-has-record-1-65b-second-quarter-still-loses-a-little-money/Jul 16th 2010 12:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/amd-has-record-1-65b-second-quarter-still-loses-a-little-money/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/amd-has-record-1-65b-second-quarter-still-loses-a-little-money/oligopoly yes, monopoly no. Intel has little to no footprint in the mobile phone processor market and AMD is still a strong competitor for the more budget minded consumer. If they were monopoly, they would have full price control and, as you sort of touched on, they would have much higher profit margins.]]>Jul 16th 2010 12:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/amd-has-record-1-65b-second-quarter-still-loses-a-little-money/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/amd-has-record-1-65b-second-quarter-still-loses-a-little-money/Jul 16th 2010 8:37AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/amd-has-record-1-65b-second-quarter-still-loses-a-little-money/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/amd-has-record-1-65b-second-quarter-still-loses-a-little-money/]]>Jul 16th 2010 8:49AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/amd-has-record-1-65b-second-quarter-still-loses-a-little-money/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/amd-has-record-1-65b-second-quarter-still-loses-a-little-money/When they get around to releasing Fusion, Intel is going to have to be afraid, maybe get around to working on their gpu performance. ]]>Jul 16th 2010 8:52AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/amd-has-record-1-65b-second-quarter-still-loses-a-little-money/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/amd-has-record-1-65b-second-quarter-still-loses-a-little-money/Jul 16th 2010 9:03AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/amd-has-record-1-65b-second-quarter-still-loses-a-little-money/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/amd-has-record-1-65b-second-quarter-still-loses-a-little-money/Jul 16th 2010 9:23AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/amd-has-record-1-65b-second-quarter-still-loses-a-little-money/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/amd-has-record-1-65b-second-quarter-still-loses-a-little-money/Jul 16th 2010 10:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/amd-has-record-1-65b-second-quarter-still-loses-a-little-money/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/amd-has-record-1-65b-second-quarter-still-loses-a-little-money/
They're out there along with mobile triple cores. Saw some at Walmart. It's just that no tech news organization seems to wants to review AMDs refreshed mainstream platform

Trusted Reviews has something IIRC.]]>Jul 16th 2010 2:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/amd-has-record-1-65b-second-quarter-still-loses-a-little-money/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/amd-has-record-1-65b-second-quarter-still-loses-a-little-money/
Yep, this is it also beats out some of the higher end I7s in some, even the 965. For a processor that costs $199, that is fucking good.]]>Jul 16th 2010 2:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/amd-has-record-1-65b-second-quarter-still-loses-a-little-money/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/amd-has-record-1-65b-second-quarter-still-loses-a-little-money/Jul 16th 2010 8:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/amd-has-record-1-65b-second-quarter-still-loses-a-little-money/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/amd-has-record-1-65b-second-quarter-still-loses-a-little-money/Jul 16th 2010 9:12AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/amd-has-record-1-65b-second-quarter-still-loses-a-little-money/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/amd-has-record-1-65b-second-quarter-still-loses-a-little-money/Jul 16th 2010 9:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/amd-has-record-1-65b-second-quarter-still-loses-a-little-money/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/amd-has-record-1-65b-second-quarter-still-loses-a-little-money/years back amd cpus spanked the ever living shit out of intels core duo line (not core 2 duo but core duo)]]>Jul 16th 2010 9:36AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/amd-has-record-1-65b-second-quarter-still-loses-a-little-money/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/amd-has-record-1-65b-second-quarter-still-loses-a-little-money/Jul 16th 2010 9:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/amd-has-record-1-65b-second-quarter-still-loses-a-little-money/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/amd-has-record-1-65b-second-quarter-still-loses-a-little-money/yupp solely because of what amd did
to bad amd has not done the same type of thing lately
if they had we wold have sandy bridge already :(]]>Jul 16th 2010 10:23AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/amd-has-record-1-65b-second-quarter-still-loses-a-little-money/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/amd-has-record-1-65b-second-quarter-still-loses-a-little-money/Jul 16th 2010 9:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/amd-has-record-1-65b-second-quarter-still-loses-a-little-money/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/amd-has-record-1-65b-second-quarter-still-loses-a-little-money/Jul 16th 2010 9:24AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/amd-has-record-1-65b-second-quarter-still-loses-a-little-money/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/amd-has-record-1-65b-second-quarter-still-loses-a-little-money/I suspect the loss is strictly on paper for accounting reasons.]]>Jul 16th 2010 9:34AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/amd-has-record-1-65b-second-quarter-still-loses-a-little-money/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/amd-has-record-1-65b-second-quarter-still-loses-a-little-money/most companies area over 10 billion in debt you now
well the large ones anyway]]>Jul 16th 2010 9:37AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/amd-has-record-1-65b-second-quarter-still-loses-a-little-money/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/amd-has-record-1-65b-second-quarter-still-loses-a-little-money/Jul 16th 2010 9:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/amd-has-record-1-65b-second-quarter-still-loses-a-little-money/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/amd-has-record-1-65b-second-quarter-still-loses-a-little-money/Jul 16th 2010 9:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/amd-has-record-1-65b-second-quarter-still-loses-a-little-money/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/amd-has-record-1-65b-second-quarter-still-loses-a-little-money/
Ditching Hector was one of the best things that happened to the company. Seriously.

We're working feverishly on two new uarches for CPUs. I can tell you that one of the things holding us back (for mobile) was the fact our processors have for a long time started in the server market. Intel have always been much better at re-engineering parts to work on lower power.

Intel have also been a step ahead of us in terms of manufacturing processes (ie a smaller node). We're better now we span off our fabbing to GF - since they produce silicon for more than just AMD/ATI they have more money to invest to keep up with the latest developments.

We've hired a bunch of experienced low-power guys to deliver Bobcat, and we're pretty much starting from scratch from Bulldozer. And they're both good at what they do.]]>Jul 16th 2010 9:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/amd-has-record-1-65b-second-quarter-still-loses-a-little-money/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/amd-has-record-1-65b-second-quarter-still-loses-a-little-money/Jul 16th 2010 9:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/amd-has-record-1-65b-second-quarter-still-loses-a-little-money/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/amd-has-record-1-65b-second-quarter-still-loses-a-little-money/Jul 16th 2010 10:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/amd-has-record-1-65b-second-quarter-still-loses-a-little-money/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/amd-has-record-1-65b-second-quarter-still-loses-a-little-money/
So that might explain why they still lost money in spite of the huge success that is the 58XX series. ]]>Jul 16th 2010 10:46AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/amd-has-record-1-65b-second-quarter-still-loses-a-little-money/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/amd-has-record-1-65b-second-quarter-still-loses-a-little-money/
Also, thanks for the insight archkron! The idea of spinning off fab to Global Foundries in order to produce more silicon from AMD, ATi, and other companies to bring in more money for working on future nodes never occurred to me.]]>Jul 16th 2010 12:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/amd-has-record-1-65b-second-quarter-still-loses-a-little-money/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/amd-has-record-1-65b-second-quarter-still-loses-a-little-money/Jul 16th 2010 12:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/amd-has-record-1-65b-second-quarter-still-loses-a-little-money/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/amd-has-record-1-65b-second-quarter-still-loses-a-little-money/Jul 16th 2010 12:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/amd-has-record-1-65b-second-quarter-still-loses-a-little-money/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/amd-has-record-1-65b-second-quarter-still-loses-a-little-money/Jul 16th 2010 12:39PM