http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/motorola-responds-to-droid-x-bootloader-controversy-says-efuse/ Engadget Comments for http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/motorola-responds-to-droid-x-bootloader-controversy-says-efuse/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/motorola-responds-to-droid-x-bootloader-controversy-says-efuse/Don't piss off us hackers. ]]>Jul 16th 2010 11:46AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/motorola-responds-to-droid-x-bootloader-controversy-says-efuse/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/motorola-responds-to-droid-x-bootloader-controversy-says-efuse/
You'd think that just saying 'if you use non standard roms your phone will not be covered by warranty' would be enough rather than going to these lengths.

I know that the hacker community don't represent the general public but it's all bad press which they won't want.]]>Jul 16th 2010 11:49AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/motorola-responds-to-droid-x-bootloader-controversy-says-efuse/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/motorola-responds-to-droid-x-bootloader-controversy-says-efuse/if there's so many people that want ultra-customizable software, why don't they make their own? Why hack somebody else's hard work?]]>Jul 16th 2010 11:49AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/motorola-responds-to-droid-x-bootloader-controversy-says-efuse/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/motorola-responds-to-droid-x-bootloader-controversy-says-efuse/Jul 16th 2010 11:49AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/motorola-responds-to-droid-x-bootloader-controversy-says-efuse/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/motorola-responds-to-droid-x-bootloader-controversy-says-efuse/Jul 16th 2010 11:52AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/motorola-responds-to-droid-x-bootloader-controversy-says-efuse/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/motorola-responds-to-droid-x-bootloader-controversy-says-efuse/
Sure the US community didn't get a crack at it (we have the open Droid), but if a device hasn't been hacked in 9 months, it likely won't be, since by then it will have already been eclipsed by the latest and greatest.

Especially in the Android world.]]>Jul 16th 2010 11:54AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/motorola-responds-to-droid-x-bootloader-controversy-says-efuse/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/motorola-responds-to-droid-x-bootloader-controversy-says-efuse/Jul 16th 2010 11:56AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/motorola-responds-to-droid-x-bootloader-controversy-says-efuse/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/motorola-responds-to-droid-x-bootloader-controversy-says-efuse/Jul 16th 2010 11:56AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/motorola-responds-to-droid-x-bootloader-controversy-says-efuse/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/motorola-responds-to-droid-x-bootloader-controversy-says-efuse/
While I'm a tinkerer too and would find it ideal to be able to easily install custom ROMs, I can see why companies have to cover their asses and make it at least a bit difficult. We are talking about system software here, if someone wrote yet another Win virus that searched for connected Droids and updated them with malware Motorola would have a pretty big problem on their hands. Plus you know they must have agreements with carriers that tie their hands somewhat.

I have no doubt someone will find a way around it anyway so in the end it'll probably be moot for anyone who would be interested in a custom ROM.]]>Jul 16th 2010 12:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/motorola-responds-to-droid-x-bootloader-controversy-says-efuse/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/motorola-responds-to-droid-x-bootloader-controversy-says-efuse/Jul 16th 2010 12:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/motorola-responds-to-droid-x-bootloader-controversy-says-efuse/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/motorola-responds-to-droid-x-bootloader-controversy-says-efuse/Jul 16th 2010 12:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/motorola-responds-to-droid-x-bootloader-controversy-says-efuse/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/motorola-responds-to-droid-x-bootloader-controversy-says-efuse/
In related news, coming to an Apple iPhone 5 near (or far away from) you. ]]>Jul 16th 2010 12:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/motorola-responds-to-droid-x-bootloader-controversy-says-efuse/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/motorola-responds-to-droid-x-bootloader-controversy-says-efuse/
I would imagine the majority of people 'hacking' into their Android phones are simply trying to bypass the pre-installed nonsense and just run the latest standard Android OS without the overhead of Sense, Blur, TouchWiz, Stage etc..

Is it so crazy to simply want the latest phone that's advertised as "With Google" to simply run the latest version of the Google OS?]]>Jul 16th 2010 12:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/motorola-responds-to-droid-x-bootloader-controversy-says-efuse/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/motorola-responds-to-droid-x-bootloader-controversy-says-efuse/
As far as carriers go, there is no doubt that you are at least partially right. I think it partially depends on the level of control they try to exert also. I think you could get away with more on either Tmo (why the N1 started there) and some EU carriers. Just speculation on my part there. ]]>Jul 16th 2010 12:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/motorola-responds-to-droid-x-bootloader-controversy-says-efuse/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/motorola-responds-to-droid-x-bootloader-controversy-says-efuse/Jul 16th 2010 12:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/motorola-responds-to-droid-x-bootloader-controversy-says-efuse/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/motorola-responds-to-droid-x-bootloader-controversy-says-efuse/
My brain just exploded. The whole reason I was going to switch from BB to Android was so that I had more options.

No one should be "approving" what software I run other than myself. This is like Steve Jobs' "freedoms" that take away the freedom from thinking differently than Apple.

Arg. Sorry, Moto, I can't get behind this. You're my hardware provider, not my babysitter. It infuriates me that you'd say "approved software."
Done. I'd been waiting for the Droid 2. Looks like I'm waiting for the Galaxy S or whatever HTC is cooking up instead. Of course, Verizon probably pushes this crap, so I wouldn't be surprised to see others get similar "features" so that we can't get free tethering (something I don't even have a use for.)

Motorola - Android saved your bacon, now you're freaking out because you don't control the IP? Weak.]]>Jul 16th 2010 12:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/motorola-responds-to-droid-x-bootloader-controversy-says-efuse/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/motorola-responds-to-droid-x-bootloader-controversy-says-efuse/Jul 16th 2010 12:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/motorola-responds-to-droid-x-bootloader-controversy-says-efuse/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/motorola-responds-to-droid-x-bootloader-controversy-says-efuse/
So how do you explain that? ]]>Jul 16th 2010 12:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/motorola-responds-to-droid-x-bootloader-controversy-says-efuse/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/motorola-responds-to-droid-x-bootloader-controversy-says-efuse/
We refuse the efuze!]]>Jul 16th 2010 12:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/motorola-responds-to-droid-x-bootloader-controversy-says-efuse/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/motorola-responds-to-droid-x-bootloader-controversy-says-efuse/
Moto is right; this is standard security practice. Remember how Apple's keyboard firmware got hacked with a key logger?

With this fiasco though, I think Moto should just put up a big warning that the user is installing unknown firmware and that Moto will not be liable if you install it. ]]>Jul 16th 2010 1:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/motorola-responds-to-droid-x-bootloader-controversy-says-efuse/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/motorola-responds-to-droid-x-bootloader-controversy-says-efuse/
as for tmobile, Tmo is very lax these days!

i still get full 3G data on my nexus one with my old $5.99 Tzones data plan, tethering included. :)
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If you feel like that then maybe Motorola should build their own OS instead of using the work of others who's main intent runs contrary to bricking customers devices and preventing OS customization. Motorola may have covered themselves legally, but they are the ones misusing other people's work. ]]>Jul 16th 2010 3:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/motorola-responds-to-droid-x-bootloader-controversy-says-efuse/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/motorola-responds-to-droid-x-bootloader-controversy-says-efuse/Jul 16th 2010 4:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/motorola-responds-to-droid-x-bootloader-controversy-says-efuse/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/motorola-responds-to-droid-x-bootloader-controversy-says-efuse/Jul 16th 2010 4:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/motorola-responds-to-droid-x-bootloader-controversy-says-efuse/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/motorola-responds-to-droid-x-bootloader-controversy-says-efuse/
same here.... had it in my possession for 2hrs went on some android forums and saw all the bootloader comments and how motorola basically says to buy an HTC phone if you don't like it(ugh) and they wonder why people don't want their phones!!! So after finding this out I returned it 2hrs later!! HTC FTW!!!]]>Jul 16th 2010 5:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/motorola-responds-to-droid-x-bootloader-controversy-says-efuse/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/motorola-responds-to-droid-x-bootloader-controversy-says-efuse/Jul 16th 2010 6:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/motorola-responds-to-droid-x-bootloader-controversy-says-efuse/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/motorola-responds-to-droid-x-bootloader-controversy-says-efuse/what are you talking about? motorola has an agreement with google to license android and the google apps (you do know that not all of android is free, right?) so they're within their rights to whatever modifications that license allows.

if you haven't noticed, it's not exactly like this lockdown is something new - all phones everywhere are locked to their own software, but hackers just have been able to get access more easily in the past. you've never had the "right" do swap rom's, so don't go inventing one now. if you feel the need to buy another vendor's phones, go for it, but you better believe the other vendors will be implementing this kind of tighter lock soon too so get to it while you can.]]>Jul 16th 2010 6:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/motorola-responds-to-droid-x-bootloader-controversy-says-efuse/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/motorola-responds-to-droid-x-bootloader-controversy-says-efuse/
F-yous more like...]]>Jul 16th 2010 6:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/motorola-responds-to-droid-x-bootloader-controversy-says-efuse/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/motorola-responds-to-droid-x-bootloader-controversy-says-efuse/
I was thinking about buying Droid X, but now I'll pass. Even Steve Jobs doesn't do thing like that.]]>Jul 16th 2010 8:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/motorola-responds-to-droid-x-bootloader-controversy-says-efuse/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/motorola-responds-to-droid-x-bootloader-controversy-says-efuse/Did you buy Nexus unlocked & unsubsidized?
Because if it's on a contract wouldn't they force you into buying a smartphone data plan?
What plan are you using?
I like Tmo would love to try Nexus One.]]>Jul 16th 2010 8:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/motorola-responds-to-droid-x-bootloader-controversy-says-efuse/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/motorola-responds-to-droid-x-bootloader-controversy-says-efuse/Jul 16th 2010 9:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/motorola-responds-to-droid-x-bootloader-controversy-says-efuse/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/motorola-responds-to-droid-x-bootloader-controversy-says-efuse/
In fact that's IBM developed eFuse technology to do on the fly dynamic clocking of the Cell BE. The eFuses (100's if not 1000's sense temperature, current flow and can open or close according to the needs of the system or do to over heating shut the system down. They can also sense data flow and unauthenticated data shuts the system down! Just Life in the City... oh what a pity! :P

...don't like it? buy something else. Even iPhones have the ability to do even more. Remember Apple was actually full bricking jail broken phones before. Now they have a similar system, but it hasn't been implemented.... YET! xD (btw they use eFuse Tech too)]]>Jul 17th 2010 5:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/motorola-responds-to-droid-x-bootloader-controversy-says-efuse/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/motorola-responds-to-droid-x-bootloader-controversy-says-efuse/http://ebb.org/bkuhn/blog/2010/07/15/motorola-admits.html]]>Jul 17th 2010 2:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/motorola-responds-to-droid-x-bootloader-controversy-says-efuse/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/motorola-responds-to-droid-x-bootloader-controversy-says-efuse/Jul 19th 2010 3:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/motorola-responds-to-droid-x-bootloader-controversy-says-efuse/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/motorola-responds-to-droid-x-bootloader-controversy-says-efuse/
Hey I have a few secretive questions to ask, would you be willing to hear my questions and possibly answer them? ]]>Aug 7th 2010 2:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/motorola-responds-to-droid-x-bootloader-controversy-says-efuse/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/motorola-responds-to-droid-x-bootloader-controversy-says-efuse/Aug 19th 2010 2:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/motorola-responds-to-droid-x-bootloader-controversy-says-efuse/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/motorola-responds-to-droid-x-bootloader-controversy-says-efuse/Jul 16th 2010 11:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/motorola-responds-to-droid-x-bootloader-controversy-says-efuse/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/motorola-responds-to-droid-x-bootloader-controversy-says-efuse/Jul 16th 2010 12:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/motorola-responds-to-droid-x-bootloader-controversy-says-efuse/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/motorola-responds-to-droid-x-bootloader-controversy-says-efuse/Jul 16th 2010 12:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/motorola-responds-to-droid-x-bootloader-controversy-says-efuse/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/motorola-responds-to-droid-x-bootloader-controversy-says-efuse/Jul 16th 2010 1:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/motorola-responds-to-droid-x-bootloader-controversy-says-efuse/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/motorola-responds-to-droid-x-bootloader-controversy-says-efuse/Jul 16th 2010 11:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/motorola-responds-to-droid-x-bootloader-controversy-says-efuse/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/motorola-responds-to-droid-x-bootloader-controversy-says-efuse/Ooops I thought the title meant eFuse wasn't there so phones won't break. Goddammit locking down an Android phone defeats the purpose of it! If only the Incredible had a slightly better camera and HD video capture out of the box :( And if they actually had them in stock.]]>Jul 16th 2010 11:49AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/motorola-responds-to-droid-x-bootloader-controversy-says-efuse/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/motorola-responds-to-droid-x-bootloader-controversy-says-efuse/befoer anyone corrects him
the Milestone (euro droid) still is not rooted]]>Jul 16th 2010 11:56AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/motorola-responds-to-droid-x-bootloader-controversy-says-efuse/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/motorola-responds-to-droid-x-bootloader-controversy-says-efuse/
I know it still isn't. That is why I said it would be a long time at least before any chance of me getting Sense or Froyo Stock on here since it hasn't been done yet on Droid 1. Makes me sad.]]>Jul 16th 2010 11:59AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/motorola-responds-to-droid-x-bootloader-controversy-says-efuse/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/motorola-responds-to-droid-x-bootloader-controversy-says-efuse/
Oh really?

http://androidforums.com/all-things-root-milestone/

Been rooted.]]>Jul 16th 2010 12:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/motorola-responds-to-droid-x-bootloader-controversy-says-efuse/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/motorola-responds-to-droid-x-bootloader-controversy-says-efuse/Uhhh...
http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/19/motorola-milestone-reaches-milestone-gets-rooted/]]>Jul 16th 2010 12:07PM