http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/nokia-we-prioritize-antenna-performance-over-physical-design-i/ Engadget Comments for http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/nokia-we-prioritize-antenna-performance-over-physical-design-i/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/nokia-we-prioritize-antenna-performance-over-physical-design-i/Jul 16th 2010 4:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/nokia-we-prioritize-antenna-performance-over-physical-design-i/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/nokia-we-prioritize-antenna-performance-over-physical-design-i/
expect more to come]]>Jul 16th 2010 4:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/nokia-we-prioritize-antenna-performance-over-physical-design-i/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/nokia-we-prioritize-antenna-performance-over-physical-design-i/That's what she said. ]]>Jul 16th 2010 4:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/nokia-we-prioritize-antenna-performance-over-physical-design-i/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/nokia-we-prioritize-antenna-performance-over-physical-design-i/Everyone and their mother saw that coming.]]>Jul 16th 2010 4:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/nokia-we-prioritize-antenna-performance-over-physical-design-i/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/nokia-we-prioritize-antenna-performance-over-physical-design-i/I was wondering if Nokia was going to say something. Nokia makes good phones.

I also think some of the companies might sue for false info giving or something. I know i would be piss. Apple making more enemies]]>Jul 16th 2010 4:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/nokia-we-prioritize-antenna-performance-over-physical-design-i/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/nokia-we-prioritize-antenna-performance-over-physical-design-i/Jul 16th 2010 4:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/nokia-we-prioritize-antenna-performance-over-physical-design-i/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/nokia-we-prioritize-antenna-performance-over-physical-design-i/
They didn't need a statement for that. It's pretty given that Nokia's phones are THE best when it comes to the primary function as a phone. Anybody who says no to that, has almost half of the world's cellphone toting population to prove that to.
But as for the form side, it's very obvious they have neglected it a lot if not totally. They are way behind relatively newcomers to the smartphone field like htc, whose some of the recent phones are much nicer LOOKING than any of Nokia's phones.

I'm still waiting to see what RIM says. Their phone's signal loss is the quickest of all the videos that Apple pointed to.
]]>Jul 16th 2010 4:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/nokia-we-prioritize-antenna-performance-over-physical-design-i/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/nokia-we-prioritize-antenna-performance-over-physical-design-i/Nokia messed up with the external metal antenna thing once before, But apple being apple ignored that and did it themselves and failed lol]]>Jul 16th 2010 4:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/nokia-we-prioritize-antenna-performance-over-physical-design-i/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/nokia-we-prioritize-antenna-performance-over-physical-design-i/Agreed. If I were RIM or HTC, I would be very angry at how Apple pointed them out. If the tables were turned, Apple would probably file a lawsuit.

Also, I have yet to see phones that suffer from signal loss like the iPhone 4 during normal use.]]>Jul 16th 2010 4:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/nokia-we-prioritize-antenna-performance-over-physical-design-i/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/nokia-we-prioritize-antenna-performance-over-physical-design-i/Jul 16th 2010 4:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/nokia-we-prioritize-antenna-performance-over-physical-design-i/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/nokia-we-prioritize-antenna-performance-over-physical-design-i/
That is a low jab stevo.]]>Jul 16th 2010 4:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/nokia-we-prioritize-antenna-performance-over-physical-design-i/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/nokia-we-prioritize-antenna-performance-over-physical-design-i/Same with regards to my 5800 and low signal areas.
As for people looking at the N8 and waiting to see whether the same situation can be said for it, you'll be disappointed.
Plastic end caps with the top for wifi and the bottom for UMTS, GSM.
You'd have to practically completely cover both ends in order to get decent attenuation (as opposed to putting a pinky on a seam LOL)]]>Jul 16th 2010 4:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/nokia-we-prioritize-antenna-performance-over-physical-design-i/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/nokia-we-prioritize-antenna-performance-over-physical-design-i/Thanks Nokia and no, your phones are't bad looking at all. And they don't scream out "I'm an attention slut, and need others' approval of my looks."

Apple and their pathetic display of other handsets losing signals. I have tried everything with iPhone 3G and never lost a single bar. So I'm assuming that they don't know the different between shielding an antenna and touching it. I hope they are found to be liers and taken to court so they can learn that they are not Gods. I'm glad it's coming here late and even then I won't buy it unless it's a fixed version, and by fixed I don't mean rubber case. Thanks crApple]]>Jul 16th 2010 4:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/nokia-we-prioritize-antenna-performance-over-physical-design-i/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/nokia-we-prioritize-antenna-performance-over-physical-design-i/
LOL. Good one]]>Jul 16th 2010 4:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/nokia-we-prioritize-antenna-performance-over-physical-design-i/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/nokia-we-prioritize-antenna-performance-over-physical-design-i/Jul 16th 2010 4:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/nokia-we-prioritize-antenna-performance-over-physical-design-i/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/nokia-we-prioritize-antenna-performance-over-physical-design-i/
im sorry but i have an iphone 4 and get the bar drop issue ONLY IF I TRY TOO... ]]>Jul 16th 2010 4:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/nokia-we-prioritize-antenna-performance-over-physical-design-i/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/nokia-we-prioritize-antenna-performance-over-physical-design-i/Jul 16th 2010 4:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/nokia-we-prioritize-antenna-performance-over-physical-design-i/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/nokia-we-prioritize-antenna-performance-over-physical-design-i/Jul 16th 2010 4:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/nokia-we-prioritize-antenna-performance-over-physical-design-i/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/nokia-we-prioritize-antenna-performance-over-physical-design-i/
lol seriously, I call this a cheap shot :P]]>Jul 16th 2010 4:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/nokia-we-prioritize-antenna-performance-over-physical-design-i/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/nokia-we-prioritize-antenna-performance-over-physical-design-i/
Actually, Nokia did need to say something but I don't think talking about just the antenna performance cuts it. A focus on what they're doing about they're smartphone initiative would have been better suited.]]>Jul 16th 2010 5:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/nokia-we-prioritize-antenna-performance-over-physical-design-i/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/nokia-we-prioritize-antenna-performance-over-physical-design-i/

Apple tried to cheeky b****slap someone else for it's own problem. Now the issue is big and it will continue to grow.

Probably one of the worst conferences I've seen.....

well, since the T.O's conference in front of his house while working out. ;)]]>Jul 16th 2010 5:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/nokia-we-prioritize-antenna-performance-over-physical-design-i/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/nokia-we-prioritize-antenna-performance-over-physical-design-i/Nokia Capital markets day 2009 check it out.]]>Jul 16th 2010 5:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/nokia-we-prioritize-antenna-performance-over-physical-design-i/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/nokia-we-prioritize-antenna-performance-over-physical-design-i/
I think we can agree design is a big part of iphone's selling point... (while reception's not lol) so of course they would put more weight on the "design".
Would the people who buy iphone still will buy an iphone if it's the design is ugly and without fashion? (aside from fanboys)]]>Jul 16th 2010 5:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/nokia-we-prioritize-antenna-performance-over-physical-design-i/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/nokia-we-prioritize-antenna-performance-over-physical-design-i/
He was sticking to comparing phones that aren't hemorrhaging market share.]]>Jul 16th 2010 5:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/nokia-we-prioritize-antenna-performance-over-physical-design-i/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/nokia-we-prioritize-antenna-performance-over-physical-design-i/Jul 16th 2010 5:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/nokia-we-prioritize-antenna-performance-over-physical-design-i/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/nokia-we-prioritize-antenna-performance-over-physical-design-i/Next up are RIM, hTc and Samsung.
I will be returning my phone 4 for captivate this sunday. ]]>Jul 16th 2010 5:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/nokia-we-prioritize-antenna-performance-over-physical-design-i/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/nokia-we-prioritize-antenna-performance-over-physical-design-i/Jul 16th 2010 5:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/nokia-we-prioritize-antenna-performance-over-physical-design-i/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/nokia-we-prioritize-antenna-performance-over-physical-design-i/Jul 16th 2010 5:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/nokia-we-prioritize-antenna-performance-over-physical-design-i/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/nokia-we-prioritize-antenna-performance-over-physical-design-i/Jul 16th 2010 5:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/nokia-we-prioritize-antenna-performance-over-physical-design-i/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/nokia-we-prioritize-antenna-performance-over-physical-design-i/Jul 16th 2010 5:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/nokia-we-prioritize-antenna-performance-over-physical-design-i/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/nokia-we-prioritize-antenna-performance-over-physical-design-i/Never tried the foil thing before, though i have covered it and my head with a pillow to see what would happen.]]>Jul 16th 2010 5:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/nokia-we-prioritize-antenna-performance-over-physical-design-i/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/nokia-we-prioritize-antenna-performance-over-physical-design-i/
Looks like there is "problems" with nokia phones too.... wow!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gi1gHDa7-X0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lP_A2aVJhVE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7RR0AnSMGo

More examples of this to be found if you care to look it up.
]]>Jul 16th 2010 6:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/nokia-we-prioritize-antenna-performance-over-physical-design-i/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/nokia-we-prioritize-antenna-performance-over-physical-design-i/
Apple don't dare test a Nokia phone.]]>Jul 16th 2010 6:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/nokia-we-prioritize-antenna-performance-over-physical-design-i/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/nokia-we-prioritize-antenna-performance-over-physical-design-i/Yep, too bad they don't prioritize a good OS over their ridiculous pride. ]]>Jul 16th 2010 6:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/nokia-we-prioritize-antenna-performance-over-physical-design-i/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/nokia-we-prioritize-antenna-performance-over-physical-design-i/
I would cling to each word Steve said and have him prove that the phones he mention do the EXACT same thing the iphone 4 does. Now he might have Nokia, RIM, and HTC customers second guessing that brand so his brand wont fall in sales. He could of done the test with phones and not mentioned the names.

I hate to use this example but what if toyota said all cars experience this and went on and showed Ford, BMW, and Nissan. I know its not peoples lives but still using the name of the companies something just doesnt seem right to me. if im wrong im wrong. Its only a blog.]]>Jul 16th 2010 6:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/nokia-we-prioritize-antenna-performance-over-physical-design-i/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/nokia-we-prioritize-antenna-performance-over-physical-design-i/Jul 16th 2010 6:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/nokia-we-prioritize-antenna-performance-over-physical-design-i/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/nokia-we-prioritize-antenna-performance-over-physical-design-i/
RIM the quickest loss?? ridiculous! This is just the quickest display algorithm, apparently RIM has the most honest one!]]>Jul 16th 2010 6:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/nokia-we-prioritize-antenna-performance-over-physical-design-i/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/nokia-we-prioritize-antenna-performance-over-physical-design-i/Uhhhhh...............................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................ditto.]]>Jul 16th 2010 6:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/nokia-we-prioritize-antenna-performance-over-physical-design-i/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/nokia-we-prioritize-antenna-performance-over-physical-design-i/Jul 16th 2010 6:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/nokia-we-prioritize-antenna-performance-over-physical-design-i/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/nokia-we-prioritize-antenna-performance-over-physical-design-i/Nope, because Apple would rather not use their phones upside-down.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gi1gHDa7-X0]]>Jul 16th 2010 6:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/nokia-we-prioritize-antenna-performance-over-physical-design-i/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/nokia-we-prioritize-antenna-performance-over-physical-design-i/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZvCQfQxiPM]]>Jul 16th 2010 6:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/nokia-we-prioritize-antenna-performance-over-physical-design-i/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/nokia-we-prioritize-antenna-performance-over-physical-design-i/Jul 16th 2010 6:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/nokia-we-prioritize-antenna-performance-over-physical-design-i/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/nokia-we-prioritize-antenna-performance-over-physical-design-i/I also have the 5800 (XpressMusic). No signal problems. Also look at where our antenna and GPS is.Held left handed and your thumb would be between them not covering them.]]>Jul 16th 2010 7:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/nokia-we-prioritize-antenna-performance-over-physical-design-i/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/nokia-we-prioritize-antenna-performance-over-physical-design-i/
What a mob mentality. Morons.]]>Jul 16th 2010 7:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/nokia-we-prioritize-antenna-performance-over-physical-design-i/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/nokia-we-prioritize-antenna-performance-over-physical-design-i/

im glad somebody said it

everybody is thinking it

get off your high horse nokia


get with the android program]]>Jul 16th 2010 7:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/nokia-we-prioritize-antenna-performance-over-physical-design-i/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/nokia-we-prioritize-antenna-performance-over-physical-design-i/Jul 16th 2010 7:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/nokia-we-prioritize-antenna-performance-over-physical-design-i/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/nokia-we-prioritize-antenna-performance-over-physical-design-i/Jul 16th 2010 8:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/nokia-we-prioritize-antenna-performance-over-physical-design-i/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/nokia-we-prioritize-antenna-performance-over-physical-design-i/
I was expecting Nokia to say something along the lines of:

"Nope, try again motherfucka!"

Seriously, I've had a bunch of nokia phones. My first one was a 5190 (yeah, the changeable faceplates) and even without the antenna attached it still made calls like a phone should. Nokia
IMO has better build quality and durability but that's just me. I've never had an iphone and I actually wanted to get one this time around but I think I'll sit this round out.]]>Jul 16th 2010 8:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/nokia-we-prioritize-antenna-performance-over-physical-design-i/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/nokia-we-prioritize-antenna-performance-over-physical-design-i/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJpEuMidcSU&feature=player_embedded]]>Jul 16th 2010 8:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/nokia-we-prioritize-antenna-performance-over-physical-design-i/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/nokia-we-prioritize-antenna-performance-over-physical-design-i/Jul 16th 2010 9:13PM