http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/verizons-4g-lte-sim-in-the-wild/ Engadget Comments for Verizon's 4G LTE SIM in the wild http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/verizons-4g-lte-sim-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/verizons-4g-lte-sim-in-the-wild/Jul 19th 2010 1:32AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/verizons-4g-lte-sim-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/verizons-4g-lte-sim-in-the-wild/
LTE is real 4g. Wimax is just ghetto wifi with speeds topping out around 2.5 mbps in the real world. lmao at evo owners bragging about 4g but really having 3.2g]]>Jul 19th 2010 1:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/verizons-4g-lte-sim-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/verizons-4g-lte-sim-in-the-wild/Jul 19th 2010 1:37AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/verizons-4g-lte-sim-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/verizons-4g-lte-sim-in-the-wild/CDMA RIP, it's about time
WiMax RIP, it's about time]]>Jul 19th 2010 1:37AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/verizons-4g-lte-sim-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/verizons-4g-lte-sim-in-the-wild/
There isn't an official definition of 4G yet. Cool your fanboy jets, pal.]]>Jul 19th 2010 1:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/verizons-4g-lte-sim-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/verizons-4g-lte-sim-in-the-wild/
FYI (for everyone) LTE is not 4G, it's more like a stepping stone to 4G. Just want to stop the confusion... that is all.

2G --- 3G --- LTE (aka 3.5G or 3.9G) --- 4G]]>Jul 19th 2010 1:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/verizons-4g-lte-sim-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/verizons-4g-lte-sim-in-the-wild/Jul 19th 2010 1:39AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/verizons-4g-lte-sim-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/verizons-4g-lte-sim-in-the-wild/Jul 19th 2010 1:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/verizons-4g-lte-sim-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/verizons-4g-lte-sim-in-the-wild/Jul 19th 2010 1:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/verizons-4g-lte-sim-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/verizons-4g-lte-sim-in-the-wild/
Its too late, he already said it..

Lol]]>Jul 19th 2010 1:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/verizons-4g-lte-sim-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/verizons-4g-lte-sim-in-the-wild/Jul 19th 2010 1:44AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/verizons-4g-lte-sim-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/verizons-4g-lte-sim-in-the-wild/i still dont think the iPhone will be here until at earliest next summer
all i can say is i love getting Wimax but im wondering how that compares to LTE
i saw the rumor about sprint teaming with tmobile for LTE but i was in doubt bc they just are investing quite a bit in wimax....

any help or thoughts?]]>Jul 19th 2010 1:44AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/verizons-4g-lte-sim-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/verizons-4g-lte-sim-in-the-wild/Jul 19th 2010 1:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/verizons-4g-lte-sim-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/verizons-4g-lte-sim-in-the-wild/Jul 19th 2010 1:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/verizons-4g-lte-sim-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/verizons-4g-lte-sim-in-the-wild/Jul 19th 2010 1:54AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/verizons-4g-lte-sim-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/verizons-4g-lte-sim-in-the-wild/Jul 19th 2010 2:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/verizons-4g-lte-sim-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/verizons-4g-lte-sim-in-the-wild/
I dont get why verizon isnt making Microsim a standard with 4G. I mean, apple fanboism aside(Im not a fanboy, just making sure people dont think Im saying this because the new iphone has microsim.) arent sim and microsim the same thing, only microsim is smaller? Seems to me like it a place where space is so important, they would have chosen the smaller microsim. And its not like any phones right now can use LTE(not exactly sure about this), so you dont have to worry about being compatible with current phones.]]>Jul 19th 2010 2:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/verizons-4g-lte-sim-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/verizons-4g-lte-sim-in-the-wild/
Understand that a LTE network can support 3G devices as well. So just like our CDMA carriers in Canada got an LTE network and launched with the iPhone 3GS, so too will Verizon launch the iPhone 4 when it's LTE network goes online...

...unless Apple and Verizon still haven't kissed and made up.]]>Jul 19th 2010 2:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/verizons-4g-lte-sim-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/verizons-4g-lte-sim-in-the-wild/Jul 19th 2010 3:33AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/verizons-4g-lte-sim-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/verizons-4g-lte-sim-in-the-wild/
Actually, I would argue that LTE is 4G, since it has been proven that LTE is capable of obtaining speeds of 100 Mbps (the 4G definition).
Here is an example: http://lteworld.org/news/ericsson-shows-lte-voice-100-mbps-data-call

Now, it's possible that the technology could change down the road, but I don't think so, not with Verizon's aggressive plan and AT&T and T-mobile future commitments.

Now, LTE is probable years away from reaching true 4G speeds, but I'm pretty sure it will end up being the 4G technology.]]>Jul 19th 2010 5:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/verizons-4g-lte-sim-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/verizons-4g-lte-sim-in-the-wild/Jul 19th 2010 6:29AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/verizons-4g-lte-sim-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/verizons-4g-lte-sim-in-the-wild/Strictly speaking the whole card constitutes a regular/full size SIM card. That cut-out, what most GSM phones use currently, is a mini-SIM.]]>Jul 19th 2010 6:37AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/verizons-4g-lte-sim-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/verizons-4g-lte-sim-in-the-wild/Jul 19th 2010 7:54AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/verizons-4g-lte-sim-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/verizons-4g-lte-sim-in-the-wild/
really?

CDMA > GSM

]]>Jul 19th 2010 11:08AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/verizons-4g-lte-sim-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/verizons-4g-lte-sim-in-the-wild/Jul 19th 2010 11:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/verizons-4g-lte-sim-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/verizons-4g-lte-sim-in-the-wild/http://www.gsmworld.com/technology/lte.htm

Also, I do not know why some still think Verizon will have a 4G "handset" this year? According to this info, a 4G "handset" will not land on Verizon until mid 2011: http://www.lightreading.com/document.asp?doc_id=189051 -That's at the earliest! ]]>Jul 19th 2010 12:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/verizons-4g-lte-sim-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/verizons-4g-lte-sim-in-the-wild/Jul 19th 2010 12:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/verizons-4g-lte-sim-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/verizons-4g-lte-sim-in-the-wild/Jul 19th 2010 2:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/verizons-4g-lte-sim-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/verizons-4g-lte-sim-in-the-wild/Im just pissed I went to ATT last month only so I can use the DEL Lightning (SIM) when it comes out latter this year and go LTE latter next year, had I known Big V (Verizon) would have gone SIM with their LTE I would have just got a plan with them instead. Here's hopeing that this competition causes ATT to get their act together, and one giving the other a run for their money! Looks like its Red vs Blue!]]>Jul 19th 2010 4:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/verizons-4g-lte-sim-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/verizons-4g-lte-sim-in-the-wild/Keep dreaming. Verizon will use full size LTE SIM card, the iPhone 4 has micro-SIMs. You can say what you want, but there's no Verizon iPhone coming in the next year, I promise]]>Aug 7th 2010 6:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/verizons-4g-lte-sim-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/verizons-4g-lte-sim-in-the-wild/Jul 19th 2010 1:33AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/verizons-4g-lte-sim-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/verizons-4g-lte-sim-in-the-wild/Jul 19th 2010 1:40AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/verizons-4g-lte-sim-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/verizons-4g-lte-sim-in-the-wild/
Having to still use SIM cards is hardly the future, IMO.

We need a new authentication system, something like a username (let's say, your phone number) and a password. You'd enter this into any phone and use it, just like you enter a SIM card now. The phone you entered this info last would be the only one with a carrier signal.
If your phone got stolen you'd just go to your carrier with an ID and he'd reset the password/cancel your number.

Benefits:
1. easier switching between phones, don't have to take anything out
2. phone makers wouldn't have to worry about fitting a SIM
1. no plastic pieces - less pollution

Seriously: why do we need a SIM?]]>Jul 19th 2010 5:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/verizons-4g-lte-sim-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/verizons-4g-lte-sim-in-the-wild/Jul 19th 2010 6:36AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/verizons-4g-lte-sim-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/verizons-4g-lte-sim-in-the-wild/
"This way, it's portable between carriers"

Really? Then why did I get a new SIM every time I switched carriers?

Being connected to a carrier is pretty much the only thing a SIM is useful for and this could be replaced with password authentication. (Yeah, a SIM can also hold contacts/messages, but we know how to store and transfer those in other ways.)

The only argument for SIM cards is increased security, similar to hardware (USB key) copy protection with some software, whereas a password could be cracked. It's a relevant one, but I'm personally willing to take the risk. We already rely on passwords for dealing with money etc.]]>Jul 19th 2010 6:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/verizons-4g-lte-sim-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/verizons-4g-lte-sim-in-the-wild/
You got a new SIM b/c they sold you one. That and you didn't unlock the phone(s) you were using. If you had an unlocked phone, it would work independent of the carrier and everything (including your SIM card) would be fine. ]]>Jul 19th 2010 9:11AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/verizons-4g-lte-sim-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/verizons-4g-lte-sim-in-the-wild/
I'd say that's a pretty big argument.]]>Jul 19th 2010 9:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/verizons-4g-lte-sim-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/verizons-4g-lte-sim-in-the-wild/Jul 19th 2010 1:34AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/verizons-4g-lte-sim-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/verizons-4g-lte-sim-in-the-wild/Jul 19th 2010 1:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/verizons-4g-lte-sim-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/verizons-4g-lte-sim-in-the-wild/Jul 19th 2010 1:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/verizons-4g-lte-sim-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/verizons-4g-lte-sim-in-the-wild/Jul 19th 2010 1:42AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/verizons-4g-lte-sim-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/verizons-4g-lte-sim-in-the-wild/Well it's no micro sim ]]>Jul 19th 2010 1:44AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/verizons-4g-lte-sim-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/verizons-4g-lte-sim-in-the-wild/
This isnt true, the large plastic card is the new 4G sim card.

The expanded size offers more antenna to frequency ratio, offering a far better range of download speeds.

The custom silicon that the chip inside the plastic card is like nothing you have ever seen.

The new LTE 4G is capable of 1 Trillion Mb/s Download and 1 Billion Mb/s Upload.

We were able to create this amazing and revolutionary method using our top scientists and elmoelaphantoligists. This new feature is only $97 Billion dollars a month.

Sent from my iPhone]]>Jul 19th 2010 1:49AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/verizons-4g-lte-sim-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/verizons-4g-lte-sim-in-the-wild/Jul 19th 2010 1:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/verizons-4g-lte-sim-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/verizons-4g-lte-sim-in-the-wild/Jul 19th 2010 3:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/verizons-4g-lte-sim-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/verizons-4g-lte-sim-in-the-wild/Jul 19th 2010 6:24AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/verizons-4g-lte-sim-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/verizons-4g-lte-sim-in-the-wild/
I was serious at first haha]]>Jul 20th 2010 11:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/verizons-4g-lte-sim-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/verizons-4g-lte-sim-in-the-wild/Jul 19th 2010 1:34AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/verizons-4g-lte-sim-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/verizons-4g-lte-sim-in-the-wild/
lte isnt true cdma. cdma is lame.]]>Jul 19th 2010 1:36AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/verizons-4g-lte-sim-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/verizons-4g-lte-sim-in-the-wild/Jul 19th 2010 1:52AM