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Love that email UI... ]]>Jul 19th 2010 12:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/windows-phone-7-in-depth-preview/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/windows-phone-7-in-depth-preview/
A NEW CHALLENGER APPEARS]]>Jul 19th 2010 12:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/windows-phone-7-in-depth-preview/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/windows-phone-7-in-depth-preview/Jul 19th 2010 12:08AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/windows-phone-7-in-depth-preview/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/windows-phone-7-in-depth-preview/Jul 19th 2010 12:17AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/windows-phone-7-in-depth-preview/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/windows-phone-7-in-depth-preview/
I read it all as well..]]>Jul 19th 2010 12:17AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/windows-phone-7-in-depth-preview/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/windows-phone-7-in-depth-preview/
Im excited. Finally it wont be.."Oh you have a phone running WinMo? Ugh thats terrible my android is way better." Now, it will be "Oh you have a Windows Phone 7 device? Damn you i want one!"]]>Jul 19th 2010 12:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/windows-phone-7-in-depth-preview/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/windows-phone-7-in-depth-preview/Jul 19th 2010 12:24AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/windows-phone-7-in-depth-preview/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/windows-phone-7-in-depth-preview/Jul 19th 2010 12:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/windows-phone-7-in-depth-preview/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/windows-phone-7-in-depth-preview/Jul 19th 2010 12:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/windows-phone-7-in-depth-preview/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/windows-phone-7-in-depth-preview/
Heres to my HD2 Tri Booting by january... Already got Winmo and Android goin. Welcome to the club WP7. Best Phone Ever Made. Ever.]]>Jul 19th 2010 12:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/windows-phone-7-in-depth-preview/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/windows-phone-7-in-depth-preview/amazing. just fucking amazing.]]>Jul 19th 2010 12:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/windows-phone-7-in-depth-preview/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/windows-phone-7-in-depth-preview/
Im what you would call an Apple fanboy..

But I have to admit, the UI of this OS is very intriguing.

It makes a crappy looking phone be much more noticable and useful (sorry if that offends, but im saying it as a good thing)]]>Jul 19th 2010 12:34AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/windows-phone-7-in-depth-preview/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/windows-phone-7-in-depth-preview/
Holy. Shit. This looks awesome! I haven't seen that smooth of a UI since iOS! It's fresh, it's new, it's pretty intuitive.

Now is the time to be a consumer, people!

(On a personal note, Android or WP7? Guess I'll have to see Microsoft's phone lineup and whether anything comes to Sprint)]]>Jul 19th 2010 12:36AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/windows-phone-7-in-depth-preview/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/windows-phone-7-in-depth-preview/
Oh...wait a minute... no 3rd party multitasking and no copy/paste? Seriously? Android it is then.... You really had me there, Microsoft. :(]]>Jul 19th 2010 12:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/windows-phone-7-in-depth-preview/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/windows-phone-7-in-depth-preview/Jul 19th 2010 12:39AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/windows-phone-7-in-depth-preview/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/windows-phone-7-in-depth-preview/Jul 19th 2010 12:44AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/windows-phone-7-in-depth-preview/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/windows-phone-7-in-depth-preview/
DOA.

Half-baked Windows Phone 7 will get slaughtered by Android and iPhone.

No C&P. No VoIP. Only one browser (IE). LiveSync broken. Compass broken. Major Fail.]]>Jul 19th 2010 12:44AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/windows-phone-7-in-depth-preview/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/windows-phone-7-in-depth-preview/
As for 3rd-party multitasking, I don't think they'll lock people out of it; maybe they're trying to refine it and make it seamless, but they need to haul ass on that issue.]]>Jul 19th 2010 12:45AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/windows-phone-7-in-depth-preview/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/windows-phone-7-in-depth-preview/
Microsoft is on their way!! To get back the business market that RIM has sunken their teeth into, Office integration is key!! Otherwise, everything looks great!]]>Jul 19th 2010 12:49AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/windows-phone-7-in-depth-preview/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/windows-phone-7-in-depth-preview/Jul 19th 2010 12:51AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/windows-phone-7-in-depth-preview/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/windows-phone-7-in-depth-preview/
Seriously, I really want to see what Google is planning for their Gingerbread update, since that's the kind of phone that I'll be getting. I'm thinking the Samsung Galaxy S Pro or perhaps a newer, better phone (dual core processors??) on Sprint.

Eh, the Epic will be outdated by the time my contract phone upgrade is up....next June. The agony! rofl. I'll live with my little Hero, but seriously. lol]]>Jul 19th 2010 12:51AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/windows-phone-7-in-depth-preview/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/windows-phone-7-in-depth-preview/
Sadly, I have to question the functionality of this design. Giant text spilling off the screen? 1/4 of your home screen as wasted black space with a tiny arrow at the top? The giant Fisher-Price buttons and the endless need to swipe and scroll? WTF? I see daily usability being a major annoyance. If Apple threw something like this out there, the peanut gallery here would roast them alive. All hipster cool with a serious disregard for usability. I don't get it.

Good luck taking on Google with this, Microsoft.

There aren't enough Engadget commenters on the planet to make WinPho7 a success. Write it down, check back in a year.]]>Jul 19th 2010 12:52AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/windows-phone-7-in-depth-preview/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/windows-phone-7-in-depth-preview/Jul 19th 2010 12:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/windows-phone-7-in-depth-preview/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/windows-phone-7-in-depth-preview/
:D]]>Jul 19th 2010 12:59AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/windows-phone-7-in-depth-preview/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/windows-phone-7-in-depth-preview/Jul 19th 2010 12:59AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/windows-phone-7-in-depth-preview/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/windows-phone-7-in-depth-preview/
"if you're a normal human being with maybe a couple hundred or fewer actual contacts, you're used to just flicking through your contact list to get to whomever you need. With Windows Phone 7, though, Facebook has puked all over that list, so Microsoft instead recommends you search for what you're looking for"


normal people also have a couple hundre or fewer actual facebook friends. this mimicks your complaint that it floods the pictures app with pictures you dont want to see. how about you not add 5000 people on facebook if they arent your friends, instead of complaining and whining about nothing but a a great operating system's user interface.


"there could shots of your ex's aunt's new boyfriend's dog in it (more on that in a bit), and there's not a whole lot you can do to stop that behavior without completely removing your Facebook account from the phone."

how about deleting them from facebook then if you would rather not pics of "your ex's aunt's new boyfriend's dog." its really lame to blame the phone for syncing information into the phone then saying you never wanted to see it.]]>Jul 19th 2010 1:00AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/windows-phone-7-in-depth-preview/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/windows-phone-7-in-depth-preview/I for one would like Engadget to disclose on what terms they get to review early hardware/software. This is a few months out, and they get to review it. I wonder because Arstechnica always discloses any back room dealings, and they make sure to mention things that they turned down that other groups were accepting (like free hotel rooms, flights, etc.). It's not something that Engadget has to do, but I have seen a number of early reviews of products and wondered...]]>Jul 19th 2010 1:01AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/windows-phone-7-in-depth-preview/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/windows-phone-7-in-depth-preview/
Wait a second.... where's Windows Live Messenger?]]>Jul 19th 2010 1:03AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/windows-phone-7-in-depth-preview/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/windows-phone-7-in-depth-preview/
In relation to WP7, that'll be some serious competition that the OS will have to keep up with. Maybe they can pull it off. The UI's intuitiveness and Zune/Xbox LIVE integration is gonna gain more traction once it seeds worldwide, and some people are torn between Android because of it. ]]>Jul 19th 2010 1:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/windows-phone-7-in-depth-preview/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/windows-phone-7-in-depth-preview/It's like Christmas!!!
I've been dying for some Windows Phone 7 news, and the os has improved from it's previous awesome state to this insanely awesome state. It's gotten so quick and dare i say visually stunning. My favorite quote from the story: "Windows Phone 7 is easily the most unique UI in the smartphone race right now, and the real perk here is that it doesn't just seem like an arbitrary decision to make things look different than other OSs -- there is real purpose and utility to a lot of what Microsoft has come up with." BOOM!]]>Jul 19th 2010 1:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/windows-phone-7-in-depth-preview/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/windows-phone-7-in-depth-preview/It's true. But I feel like this UI is so stylized it's going to get boring very quickly.

It also could be a little more polished... it'd be nice if they did a sort of 3D menu like the N1 app tray, where instead of just cutting off into black (which is very abrupt and quite ugly), items could fade and rotate out. Might be too much stress on GPU but the N1 seems to handle it fine.

WP7 does lack a ton of features, however. Thuogh I highly doubt it will face the same scrutiny the iPhone did when it lacked as many obvious features... ]]>Jul 19th 2010 1:08AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/windows-phone-7-in-depth-preview/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/windows-phone-7-in-depth-preview/
No. Wrong. There should ALWAYS be an option to control how much and what type of information is coming in from Facebook and other such media outlets.

For instance, my Android contact list was originally filled with every single friend. Then, I discovered the wonderful "display only if number is included" button. Now I have a functional listing, can still search for those not displayed, and have everything merge and sync wonderfully.

@N900

And that just makes me want to see it all the more, rofl. Everything is gonna be awesome! Go competition!

On a side note, I will say that Gingerbread needs to utilize graphics just as well as WP7 and iOS to keep transitions smooth, menus responsive, and all around interface looking great!]]>Jul 19th 2010 1:10AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/windows-phone-7-in-depth-preview/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/windows-phone-7-in-depth-preview/Jul 19th 2010 1:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/windows-phone-7-in-depth-preview/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/windows-phone-7-in-depth-preview/
There's a huge difference between a 'preview' (as noted at the top of the page), and an actual 'review' of a ready-for-market item (which this is not).

I hope that helps.]]>Jul 19th 2010 1:17AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/windows-phone-7-in-depth-preview/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/windows-phone-7-in-depth-preview/
wrong. joshua toplsky has about 5000 facebook friends, and acts likes everyone has thousands on facebook, when that is just not true. Most people only add people they personally care about. Why add someone you dont want updates on? thats stupid and something only topolsky would do (and complain about later, go figure)]]>Jul 19th 2010 1:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/windows-phone-7-in-depth-preview/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/windows-phone-7-in-depth-preview/
oooh la LA LA la!]]>Jul 19th 2010 1:24AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/windows-phone-7-in-depth-preview/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/windows-phone-7-in-depth-preview/most people do not need multitasking. why do they DESPERATELY need it at launch? how is multitasking a necessity for a phone? are you this dense? do you know what an update at a later date is?]]>Jul 19th 2010 1:24AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/windows-phone-7-in-depth-preview/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/windows-phone-7-in-depth-preview/
Joshua topolsky was wrong.

it has twitter with Windows Live. Twitter and any feed gets pushed in windows live, its so if you want any other social network updates, you can just push it through windows live, thats why its there.

]]>Jul 19th 2010 1:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/windows-phone-7-in-depth-preview/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/windows-phone-7-in-depth-preview/
Could you stop this cyberteasing, just release it! ]]>Jul 19th 2010 1:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/windows-phone-7-in-depth-preview/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/windows-phone-7-in-depth-preview/
Woa there. No need to get defensive, lest I take you down with logic like the rest of the fanboys.

"Most people only add people they personally care about."

No. I friend people who I have met and want to get in contact with. They are not necessarily "friends" in the traditional sense. I like having control over who shows up in my list, even if it's more filtering than choosing. I don't like seeing every little update from everyone I've ever contacted. I also don't like the idea that anyone's pictures can end up in the picture app. If I want to, I'll go to their profile and look at their pictures. lol

Secondly, 3rd party multitasking is essential for my phone needs, as I'm constantly using Pandora and like switching back and forth between apps. If it is assured to be included in the next update, that's great. However, I would like an official statement from Microsoft. Can you wrastle up a source link for me?

Twitter doesn't have a separate application? Hmm. Interesting. Don't know how that's going to play out considering I don't use it but, lol.]]>Jul 19th 2010 1:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/windows-phone-7-in-depth-preview/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/windows-phone-7-in-depth-preview/
I think your own words say it best.

Do you own an WinPho 7?
Do you have direct personal experience to talk about?
Didn't think so - now STFU.]]>Jul 19th 2010 1:36AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/windows-phone-7-in-depth-preview/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/windows-phone-7-in-depth-preview/Oh really?! That shit looks so boring! But besides my personnel opinion how will it pan out that the same fuckers making Android phones are going to succeed in convincing the same set of geeks to buy a windows phone?
Believe me when I tell you that the press will pick up on the same thing!
It would have been better if MS did the phone themselves the way Apple handles their own business.
This has so much fail I can taste it over my high speed wifi!]]>Jul 19th 2010 1:37AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/windows-phone-7-in-depth-preview/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/windows-phone-7-in-depth-preview/
you dont understand what im getting at, most people do not practice what joshua does, adding literally 5000 people they dont know, then later complaining that windows phone is making that feed a reality.

on your case, its people you are acquainted to. joshua blames the OS for "flooding" him when hes the one who flooded himself.]]>Jul 19th 2010 1:39AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/windows-phone-7-in-depth-preview/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/windows-phone-7-in-depth-preview/
and another thing, its not a computer. its just something for a quick glance at whats going on in facebook. youll see the latest pics from none other than your facebook friends.

maybe its time to delete people you dont want updates on instead of ragging on an Operating system doing a perfect job.]]>Jul 19th 2010 1:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/windows-phone-7-in-depth-preview/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/windows-phone-7-in-depth-preview/Jul 19th 2010 1:42AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/windows-phone-7-in-depth-preview/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/windows-phone-7-in-depth-preview/Jul 19th 2010 1:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/windows-phone-7-in-depth-preview/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/windows-phone-7-in-depth-preview/
"you dont understand what im getting at, most people do not practice what joshua does, adding literally 5000 people they dont know, then later complaining that windows phone is making that feed a reality."

I like options. Those options exist in other operating systems. Why can't they exist here to placate those users? In fact, I have over 500 friends, and the ability to limit who's in my contact list, who has pictures in my feed, etc. is what I love about my current OS, Android.

Placing the blame on the user is silly. Please don't become another blind fanboy.

"and another thing, its not a computer. its just something for a quick glance at whats going on in facebook. youll see the latest pics from none other than your facebook friends. "

But if the quick glance is flooded with the likes of "I cut my hair today" from people you met once (like my facebook feed) then it will be pretty crazy after a while.]]>Jul 19th 2010 1:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/windows-phone-7-in-depth-preview/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/windows-phone-7-in-depth-preview/
thats your fault for adding someone you met once.]]>Jul 19th 2010 1:49AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/windows-phone-7-in-depth-preview/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/19/windows-phone-7-in-depth-preview/I think most of the missing features are probably being left out while they get it up to the level of polish everything else is at. ]]>Jul 19th 2010 1:50AM