http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/adobe-flashtime-to-bring-peer-to-peer-video-calls-to-android-vi/ Engadget Comments for Adobe FlashTime to bring peer-to-peer video calls to Android (video) http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/adobe-flashtime-to-bring-peer-to-peer-video-calls-to-android-vi/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/adobe-flashtime-to-bring-peer-to-peer-video-calls-to-android-vi/Jul 20th 2010 11:56AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/adobe-flashtime-to-bring-peer-to-peer-video-calls-to-android-vi/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/adobe-flashtime-to-bring-peer-to-peer-video-calls-to-android-vi/in the face of open, standards-based videochat alternatives, Adobe throws their proprietary flash into the mix. Good luck with that.]]>Jul 20th 2010 11:59AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/adobe-flashtime-to-bring-peer-to-peer-video-calls-to-android-vi/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/adobe-flashtime-to-bring-peer-to-peer-video-calls-to-android-vi/Jul 20th 2010 11:59AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/adobe-flashtime-to-bring-peer-to-peer-video-calls-to-android-vi/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/adobe-flashtime-to-bring-peer-to-peer-video-calls-to-android-vi/Im hoping to get flashed a coupe times....know what i mean...ah ah ah.

Nothing but ANDROID LOVE in the island called Adobe!]]>Jul 20th 2010 12:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/adobe-flashtime-to-bring-peer-to-peer-video-calls-to-android-vi/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/adobe-flashtime-to-bring-peer-to-peer-video-calls-to-android-vi/
FlashTime: a new way to open more holes in the system.
]]>Jul 20th 2010 12:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/adobe-flashtime-to-bring-peer-to-peer-video-calls-to-android-vi/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/adobe-flashtime-to-bring-peer-to-peer-video-calls-to-android-vi/Jul 20th 2010 12:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/adobe-flashtime-to-bring-peer-to-peer-video-calls-to-android-vi/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/adobe-flashtime-to-bring-peer-to-peer-video-calls-to-android-vi/
At least it looks like Adobe isn't trying to make you pay for it *cough* Qik *cough* or terminate it's most popular interface feature *cough* Fring *cough*

Though I could be speaking too soon and they could charge for it. But this also shows that already existing flash peer-to-peer social network video sites (ustreams and the like) should be rather friendly to the 2.2/10.1 build to come.]]>Jul 20th 2010 12:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/adobe-flashtime-to-bring-peer-to-peer-video-calls-to-android-vi/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/adobe-flashtime-to-bring-peer-to-peer-video-calls-to-android-vi/
Flash needs to hunker down and get stuff working flawlessly and people WILL embrace it like they did a few years back. Apple is the one giving Flash a bad name. It is really a powerful tool that may not be "open" but is very close.

Don't let Apple fool you that FaceTime is open. It's not. ]]>Jul 20th 2010 12:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/adobe-flashtime-to-bring-peer-to-peer-video-calls-to-android-vi/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/adobe-flashtime-to-bring-peer-to-peer-video-calls-to-android-vi/Jul 20th 2010 12:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/adobe-flashtime-to-bring-peer-to-peer-video-calls-to-android-vi/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/adobe-flashtime-to-bring-peer-to-peer-video-calls-to-android-vi/Jul 20th 2010 12:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/adobe-flashtime-to-bring-peer-to-peer-video-calls-to-android-vi/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/adobe-flashtime-to-bring-peer-to-peer-video-calls-to-android-vi/Jul 20th 2010 12:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/adobe-flashtime-to-bring-peer-to-peer-video-calls-to-android-vi/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/adobe-flashtime-to-bring-peer-to-peer-video-calls-to-android-vi/
This is obviously adobe trying to emulate Apple...God the name itself just screams desperation and envy.

I'm not saying Apple owns a patent on anything with "Time" in it. I'm just saying that it doesn't sound truly original or unique. ]]>Jul 20th 2010 12:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/adobe-flashtime-to-bring-peer-to-peer-video-calls-to-android-vi/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/adobe-flashtime-to-bring-peer-to-peer-video-calls-to-android-vi/
This is a tech demo, for a development environment. This isn't Adobe trying to convince you to use "FlashTime" over a properly developed video chat application. The point is to show that you can replicate the abilities of Facetime, Skype, etc... within the Flash environment.

Why the hate at cross-platform development tools?]]>Jul 20th 2010 12:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/adobe-flashtime-to-bring-peer-to-peer-video-calls-to-android-vi/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/adobe-flashtime-to-bring-peer-to-peer-video-calls-to-android-vi/That's not the point at all. Cross-platform app development for the win. And I don't mind getting the design-oriented people more involved with the scene either.]]>Jul 20th 2010 12:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/adobe-flashtime-to-bring-peer-to-peer-video-calls-to-android-vi/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/adobe-flashtime-to-bring-peer-to-peer-video-calls-to-android-vi/
Now if only they would deploy to all the devices quicker.]]>Jul 20th 2010 12:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/adobe-flashtime-to-bring-peer-to-peer-video-calls-to-android-vi/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/adobe-flashtime-to-bring-peer-to-peer-video-calls-to-android-vi/
A lot of people commenting here need to buy a clue.
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If Android is open, and Flash is proprietary what am I missing here?]]>Jul 20th 2010 12:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/adobe-flashtime-to-bring-peer-to-peer-video-calls-to-android-vi/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/adobe-flashtime-to-bring-peer-to-peer-video-calls-to-android-vi/Jul 20th 2010 12:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/adobe-flashtime-to-bring-peer-to-peer-video-calls-to-android-vi/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/adobe-flashtime-to-bring-peer-to-peer-video-calls-to-android-vi/Jul 20th 2010 1:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/adobe-flashtime-to-bring-peer-to-peer-video-calls-to-android-vi/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/adobe-flashtime-to-bring-peer-to-peer-video-calls-to-android-vi/
What I see here is Simple. You can use same ActionScript code to make application for multiple platform. It performs close enough to native applications.

It means Company(especially small to middle) does not have to hire multiple developer, or spent more time to build them. Budget will drop drastically.

Adobe better work hard on other OS too such as BB, webOS, Windows 7 phone. ]]>Jul 20th 2010 1:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/adobe-flashtime-to-bring-peer-to-peer-video-calls-to-android-vi/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/adobe-flashtime-to-bring-peer-to-peer-video-calls-to-android-vi/
wow put them on check man. People dont get it. Not worth explaining. Im done with it. i guess engadget got me on watch cant post on anything apple without a email for confirmation being sent (which never comes)]]>Jul 20th 2010 1:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/adobe-flashtime-to-bring-peer-to-peer-video-calls-to-android-vi/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/adobe-flashtime-to-bring-peer-to-peer-video-calls-to-android-vi/Sounds like you haven't checked in awhile (or ever). Flash is working very well on my Droid w/ 2.2. Games work fine. Video works fine on all the sites I've tried. Working much better than I ever expected, actually.]]>Jul 20th 2010 1:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/adobe-flashtime-to-bring-peer-to-peer-video-calls-to-android-vi/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/adobe-flashtime-to-bring-peer-to-peer-video-calls-to-android-vi/
My Sympathies for anyone who responded along the lines of

"Adobe Stole the name FlashTime from Apple's FaceTime"

That American Sarcasm humor is hard to comprehend sometimes I know. And for those of you who are american...I'm at a loss of words, guess you should just blame the distortion field.
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Embracing a development platform for the sake of it's "cross-platform" compatibilities without thinking about the uniqueness of different platforms is a mistake. Look at Java, the prime example of "cross-platform" development. Yes Java applications typically work in both Windows and OS X (if they are written correctly) but do they suck most of the time? YES. (IBM Lotus Notes?)

The only good cross platform app in java that I think is decent and fairly ubiquitous is probably Eclipse. and even THAT has memory management issues.

Besides, who says that Adobe automatically = "cross platform" and other standards are not?

As a developer, cross platform development is a loose goal, not something u necessarily following 100% of the time.]]>Jul 20th 2010 4:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/adobe-flashtime-to-bring-peer-to-peer-video-calls-to-android-vi/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/adobe-flashtime-to-bring-peer-to-peer-video-calls-to-android-vi/
For example, iPhone transitions in JavaScript run poorly but for those devices you can tell the application to use native hardware accelerated CSS transitions instead so it will run as smoothly as on android without losing the functionality.]]>Jul 20th 2010 6:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/adobe-flashtime-to-bring-peer-to-peer-video-calls-to-android-vi/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/adobe-flashtime-to-bring-peer-to-peer-video-calls-to-android-vi/I totally agree that cross-platform development in the web front (at least in this new era) is nothing short of amazing in these past few years. initially web standards such as javascript, html, css and whatnot are dealt with differently (they still are really) but they've come a long way and are now more or less standardized.

A great example? http://www.280slides.com
a fully interactive and graphic rich experience. (that's built on open standards) and I want to use this to illustrate that web apps like these (well this level of interactivity) were only either purely imagination, or implemented flash. but this is not the case anymore.

nonetheless, we see that cross-platform development indeed require adopters/creators of that standard/framework to "properly" implement it in the target platforms. (This is something that Apple is bi*ching) about. But it is not just an Apple v Flash issue. This is a common problem, which also occurs in java.
]]>Jul 20th 2010 6:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/adobe-flashtime-to-bring-peer-to-peer-video-calls-to-android-vi/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/adobe-flashtime-to-bring-peer-to-peer-video-calls-to-android-vi/Jul 20th 2010 11:56AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/adobe-flashtime-to-bring-peer-to-peer-video-calls-to-android-vi/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/adobe-flashtime-to-bring-peer-to-peer-video-calls-to-android-vi/Jul 20th 2010 11:56AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/adobe-flashtime-to-bring-peer-to-peer-video-calls-to-android-vi/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/adobe-flashtime-to-bring-peer-to-peer-video-calls-to-android-vi/Jul 20th 2010 11:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/adobe-flashtime-to-bring-peer-to-peer-video-calls-to-android-vi/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/adobe-flashtime-to-bring-peer-to-peer-video-calls-to-android-vi/
Right? Go Adobe!]]>Jul 20th 2010 11:59AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/adobe-flashtime-to-bring-peer-to-peer-video-calls-to-android-vi/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/adobe-flashtime-to-bring-peer-to-peer-video-calls-to-android-vi/
It's hilarious, isn't it?! ]]>Jul 20th 2010 11:59AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/adobe-flashtime-to-bring-peer-to-peer-video-calls-to-android-vi/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/adobe-flashtime-to-bring-peer-to-peer-video-calls-to-android-vi/Outdated platform on an Outdated phone. lol nice try.]]>Jul 20th 2010 12:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/adobe-flashtime-to-bring-peer-to-peer-video-calls-to-android-vi/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/adobe-flashtime-to-bring-peer-to-peer-video-calls-to-android-vi/Jul 20th 2010 1:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/adobe-flashtime-to-bring-peer-to-peer-video-calls-to-android-vi/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/adobe-flashtime-to-bring-peer-to-peer-video-calls-to-android-vi/
Funny since that "outdated" phone has been besting the iPhone in most every aspect.]]>Jul 20th 2010 1:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/adobe-flashtime-to-bring-peer-to-peer-video-calls-to-android-vi/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/adobe-flashtime-to-bring-peer-to-peer-video-calls-to-android-vi/Jul 21st 2010 3:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/adobe-flashtime-to-bring-peer-to-peer-video-calls-to-android-vi/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/adobe-flashtime-to-bring-peer-to-peer-video-calls-to-android-vi/Jul 20th 2010 11:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/adobe-flashtime-to-bring-peer-to-peer-video-calls-to-android-vi/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/adobe-flashtime-to-bring-peer-to-peer-video-calls-to-android-vi/Jul 20th 2010 12:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/adobe-flashtime-to-bring-peer-to-peer-video-calls-to-android-vi/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/adobe-flashtime-to-bring-peer-to-peer-video-calls-to-android-vi/Jul 20th 2010 1:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/adobe-flashtime-to-bring-peer-to-peer-video-calls-to-android-vi/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/adobe-flashtime-to-bring-peer-to-peer-video-calls-to-android-vi/
I mean.... Ew.
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OSX Dock + expose > all.]]>Jul 20th 2010 12:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/adobe-flashtime-to-bring-peer-to-peer-video-calls-to-android-vi/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/adobe-flashtime-to-bring-peer-to-peer-video-calls-to-android-vi/
Tiling Windows Managers > All

Assuming you want to get work done.]]>Jul 20th 2010 12:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/adobe-flashtime-to-bring-peer-to-peer-video-calls-to-android-vi/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/adobe-flashtime-to-bring-peer-to-peer-video-calls-to-android-vi/ All. There I said it for you]]>Jul 20th 2010 12:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/adobe-flashtime-to-bring-peer-to-peer-video-calls-to-android-vi/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/adobe-flashtime-to-bring-peer-to-peer-video-calls-to-android-vi/Jul 20th 2010 12:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/adobe-flashtime-to-bring-peer-to-peer-video-calls-to-android-vi/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/adobe-flashtime-to-bring-peer-to-peer-video-calls-to-android-vi/Jul 20th 2010 12:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/adobe-flashtime-to-bring-peer-to-peer-video-calls-to-android-vi/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/adobe-flashtime-to-bring-peer-to-peer-video-calls-to-android-vi/Jul 20th 2010 12:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/adobe-flashtime-to-bring-peer-to-peer-video-calls-to-android-vi/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/adobe-flashtime-to-bring-peer-to-peer-video-calls-to-android-vi/Jul 20th 2010 6:31PM