http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/sony-stereoscopic-screen-sharing-patent-puts-two-players-on-one/ Engadget Comments for http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/sony-stereoscopic-screen-sharing-patent-puts-two-players-on-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/sony-stereoscopic-screen-sharing-patent-puts-two-players-on-one/This would be amazing]]>Jul 20th 2010 1:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/sony-stereoscopic-screen-sharing-patent-puts-two-players-on-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/sony-stereoscopic-screen-sharing-patent-puts-two-players-on-one/Omg want so bad]]>Jul 20th 2010 1:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/sony-stereoscopic-screen-sharing-patent-puts-two-players-on-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/sony-stereoscopic-screen-sharing-patent-puts-two-players-on-one/I thought you couldn't patent something that has already been done...

http://kotaku.com/359988/texas-instruments-dual-view-look-ma-no-split-screen]]>Jul 20th 2010 1:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/sony-stereoscopic-screen-sharing-patent-puts-two-players-on-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/sony-stereoscopic-screen-sharing-patent-puts-two-players-on-one/
Finally, a useful application for 3D TV's]]>Jul 20th 2010 1:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/sony-stereoscopic-screen-sharing-patent-puts-two-players-on-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/sony-stereoscopic-screen-sharing-patent-puts-two-players-on-one/Jul 20th 2010 1:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/sony-stereoscopic-screen-sharing-patent-puts-two-players-on-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/sony-stereoscopic-screen-sharing-patent-puts-two-players-on-one/
This is muy interesting indeed]]>Jul 20th 2010 1:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/sony-stereoscopic-screen-sharing-patent-puts-two-players-on-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/sony-stereoscopic-screen-sharing-patent-puts-two-players-on-one/
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/20070263003.pdf

Too tired right now to actively look for the differences]]>Jul 20th 2010 1:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/sony-stereoscopic-screen-sharing-patent-puts-two-players-on-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/sony-stereoscopic-screen-sharing-patent-puts-two-players-on-one/Jul 20th 2010 1:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/sony-stereoscopic-screen-sharing-patent-puts-two-players-on-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/sony-stereoscopic-screen-sharing-patent-puts-two-players-on-one/Jul 20th 2010 2:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/sony-stereoscopic-screen-sharing-patent-puts-two-players-on-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/sony-stereoscopic-screen-sharing-patent-puts-two-players-on-one/
If I understand the tech correctly (and I admit I haven't done more than scanned the patents), you would not be able to display multiple 3D images. Its either 1 3D or 2 2D.

Of course, you could conceivably double the number of pixels in the TV set again, and manage 'split-screen' 3D, but lets not get ahead of ourselves. ]]>Jul 20th 2010 2:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/sony-stereoscopic-screen-sharing-patent-puts-two-players-on-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/sony-stereoscopic-screen-sharing-patent-puts-two-players-on-one/
ya this is so stupid...

any one can do it with its 3DTV, its just a bloody concept.]]>Jul 20th 2010 3:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/sony-stereoscopic-screen-sharing-patent-puts-two-players-on-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/sony-stereoscopic-screen-sharing-patent-puts-two-players-on-one/
I wonder if that older patent has been challenged yet. IANAL, but I am a scientist, and to me it seems exactly the same as my thesis work:

ftp://fas.sfu.ca/pub/cs/TH/2000/GarthBDShoemakerMSc.pdf
http://doi.acm.org/10.1145/365024.365349

Lawyers, I'm available to serve as expert witness!]]>Jul 20th 2010 3:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/sony-stereoscopic-screen-sharing-patent-puts-two-players-on-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/sony-stereoscopic-screen-sharing-patent-puts-two-players-on-one/
Again, totally sweet idea- no more super narrow or super short action w/ 2 players. And best yet, no more camping an watching my damn screen.]]>Jul 20th 2010 5:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/sony-stereoscopic-screen-sharing-patent-puts-two-players-on-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/sony-stereoscopic-screen-sharing-patent-puts-two-players-on-one/Jul 20th 2010 6:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/sony-stereoscopic-screen-sharing-patent-puts-two-players-on-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/sony-stereoscopic-screen-sharing-patent-puts-two-players-on-one/Jul 20th 2010 1:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/sony-stereoscopic-screen-sharing-patent-puts-two-players-on-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/sony-stereoscopic-screen-sharing-patent-puts-two-players-on-one/
"The other big advantage is that other local players can't see your screen to know when you're sneaking up behind them."

Crap! So THAT'S how my buddy keeps pulling melees on me.]]>Jul 20th 2010 1:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/sony-stereoscopic-screen-sharing-patent-puts-two-players-on-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/sony-stereoscopic-screen-sharing-patent-puts-two-players-on-one/
So, what do the people not playing see?]]>Jul 20th 2010 1:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/sony-stereoscopic-screen-sharing-patent-puts-two-players-on-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/sony-stereoscopic-screen-sharing-patent-puts-two-players-on-one/Jul 20th 2010 1:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/sony-stereoscopic-screen-sharing-patent-puts-two-players-on-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/sony-stereoscopic-screen-sharing-patent-puts-two-players-on-one/Jul 20th 2010 1:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/sony-stereoscopic-screen-sharing-patent-puts-two-players-on-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/sony-stereoscopic-screen-sharing-patent-puts-two-players-on-one/
2 is probably about the limit you might get up to 4, but that would probably happy with interlaced screens.

so it would be like

FRAME 1 (1080p)
1080i output goes to player 1, opposite 1080i output goes to player 2

FRAME 2 (1080p)
1080i goes to player 3, opposite 1080i goes to player 4

FRAME 3 (1080p)
1080i goes to player 1, opposite 1080i goes to player 2

FRAME 4 (1080p)
1080i goes to player 3, opposite 1080i goes to player 4

FRAME 5 (1080p)
1080i goes to player 1, opposite 1080i goes to player 2

FRAME 6 (1080p)
1080i goes to player 3, opposite 1080i goes to player 4

and so on.]]>Jul 20th 2010 1:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/sony-stereoscopic-screen-sharing-patent-puts-two-players-on-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/sony-stereoscopic-screen-sharing-patent-puts-two-players-on-one/Jul 20th 2010 1:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/sony-stereoscopic-screen-sharing-patent-puts-two-players-on-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/sony-stereoscopic-screen-sharing-patent-puts-two-players-on-one/
You having fun and them not.]]>Jul 20th 2010 1:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/sony-stereoscopic-screen-sharing-patent-puts-two-players-on-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/sony-stereoscopic-screen-sharing-patent-puts-two-players-on-one/And this is only 30fps and many people are not satisfied with 30fps, would instead prefer 120.]]>Jul 20th 2010 1:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/sony-stereoscopic-screen-sharing-patent-puts-two-players-on-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/sony-stereoscopic-screen-sharing-patent-puts-two-players-on-one/Er, 60]]>Jul 20th 2010 1:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/sony-stereoscopic-screen-sharing-patent-puts-two-players-on-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/sony-stereoscopic-screen-sharing-patent-puts-two-players-on-one/
yeah, two things that people hate, 30fps and interlaced quality.

Also using 3D screens, you only get 50% brightness and have to wear glasses, sitting out a game means leaving the room and you are likely going to notice flickering.

Also a big issue would be making glasses that were able to pick up 4 unique types of images and separate them to 4 sets of glasses, because currently the technology is set up for 2 sets. ]]>Jul 20th 2010 1:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/sony-stereoscopic-screen-sharing-patent-puts-two-players-on-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/sony-stereoscopic-screen-sharing-patent-puts-two-players-on-one/
They could set their glasses to dual-mode and just open the eye of the player they want to watch, lulz...]]>Jul 20th 2010 5:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/sony-stereoscopic-screen-sharing-patent-puts-two-players-on-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/sony-stereoscopic-screen-sharing-patent-puts-two-players-on-one/
What would be better is if we could have this set for different inputs.

For instance, I can be playing my game console, while my wife watches a sitcom on the same TV set. On a 120hz screen, I get 60 frames for my games, my wife 60 frames for her TV.

Or I could be watching sports while my wife watches whatever the hell she wants to watch. One of us will need to use headphones, but a small price to pay for essentially having two displays on one screen.]]>Jul 20th 2010 10:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/sony-stereoscopic-screen-sharing-patent-puts-two-players-on-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/sony-stereoscopic-screen-sharing-patent-puts-two-players-on-one/Jul 20th 2010 1:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/sony-stereoscopic-screen-sharing-patent-puts-two-players-on-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/sony-stereoscopic-screen-sharing-patent-puts-two-players-on-one/Jul 20th 2010 7:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/sony-stereoscopic-screen-sharing-patent-puts-two-players-on-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/sony-stereoscopic-screen-sharing-patent-puts-two-players-on-one/Jul 20th 2010 1:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/sony-stereoscopic-screen-sharing-patent-puts-two-players-on-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/sony-stereoscopic-screen-sharing-patent-puts-two-players-on-one/Jul 20th 2010 1:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/sony-stereoscopic-screen-sharing-patent-puts-two-players-on-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/sony-stereoscopic-screen-sharing-patent-puts-two-players-on-one/Jul 20th 2010 1:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/sony-stereoscopic-screen-sharing-patent-puts-two-players-on-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/sony-stereoscopic-screen-sharing-patent-puts-two-players-on-one/Jul 20th 2010 1:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/sony-stereoscopic-screen-sharing-patent-puts-two-players-on-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/sony-stereoscopic-screen-sharing-patent-puts-two-players-on-one/Jul 20th 2010 1:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/sony-stereoscopic-screen-sharing-patent-puts-two-players-on-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/sony-stereoscopic-screen-sharing-patent-puts-two-players-on-one/Anything + for 3D technology (such as the glasses) is a plus for Sony.]]>Jul 20th 2010 2:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/sony-stereoscopic-screen-sharing-patent-puts-two-players-on-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/sony-stereoscopic-screen-sharing-patent-puts-two-players-on-one/Jul 20th 2010 1:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/sony-stereoscopic-screen-sharing-patent-puts-two-players-on-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/sony-stereoscopic-screen-sharing-patent-puts-two-players-on-one/
Arguably it's different because it uses an alternate-frame 3D screen instead of a polarized 3D screen...]]>Jul 20th 2010 1:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/sony-stereoscopic-screen-sharing-patent-puts-two-players-on-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/sony-stereoscopic-screen-sharing-patent-puts-two-players-on-one/Jul 20th 2010 1:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/sony-stereoscopic-screen-sharing-patent-puts-two-players-on-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/sony-stereoscopic-screen-sharing-patent-puts-two-players-on-one/Of course now we all need 240Hz displays, so each player can get his 3D game on.]]>Jul 20th 2010 1:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/sony-stereoscopic-screen-sharing-patent-puts-two-players-on-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/sony-stereoscopic-screen-sharing-patent-puts-two-players-on-one/
This is for the PS4. Only I hope autostereoscopic glasses-free 3DTVs are around by then to make this obsolete.]]>Jul 20th 2010 1:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/sony-stereoscopic-screen-sharing-patent-puts-two-players-on-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/sony-stereoscopic-screen-sharing-patent-puts-two-players-on-one/Jul 20th 2010 2:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/sony-stereoscopic-screen-sharing-patent-puts-two-players-on-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/sony-stereoscopic-screen-sharing-patent-puts-two-players-on-one/
http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/12084/dlp-dual-screen-lcd-television]]>Jul 20th 2010 1:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/sony-stereoscopic-screen-sharing-patent-puts-two-players-on-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/sony-stereoscopic-screen-sharing-patent-puts-two-players-on-one/
It was actually patented by a University of Pennsylvania grad about 3-4 years ago. ]]>Jul 20th 2010 1:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/sony-stereoscopic-screen-sharing-patent-puts-two-players-on-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/sony-stereoscopic-screen-sharing-patent-puts-two-players-on-one/
3D alone puts enough stress on the system, since it's essentially running the same game twice at the same time. Then with "split screen" you need to run two different games again. So you would be splitting the system into four ways.]]>Jul 20th 2010 1:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/sony-stereoscopic-screen-sharing-patent-puts-two-players-on-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/sony-stereoscopic-screen-sharing-patent-puts-two-players-on-one/
Nice idea, but I don't think even the PS3's beefy hardware is up to it. This would need to be on a future generation, or at least upgraded console. ]]>Jul 20th 2010 1:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/sony-stereoscopic-screen-sharing-patent-puts-two-players-on-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/sony-stereoscopic-screen-sharing-patent-puts-two-players-on-one/Jul 20th 2010 2:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/sony-stereoscopic-screen-sharing-patent-puts-two-players-on-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/sony-stereoscopic-screen-sharing-patent-puts-two-players-on-one/Jul 20th 2010 3:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/sony-stereoscopic-screen-sharing-patent-puts-two-players-on-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/sony-stereoscopic-screen-sharing-patent-puts-two-players-on-one/Jul 20th 2010 3:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/sony-stereoscopic-screen-sharing-patent-puts-two-players-on-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/sony-stereoscopic-screen-sharing-patent-puts-two-players-on-one/
I also published it at the ACM CHI conference:
http://doi.acm.org/10.1145/365024.365349]]>Jul 20th 2010 3:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/sony-stereoscopic-screen-sharing-patent-puts-two-players-on-one/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/20/sony-stereoscopic-screen-sharing-patent-puts-two-players-on-one/Jul 21st 2010 3:29AM