http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/21/hp-confirms-slate-alive-and-well-determining-next-steps-on-t/ Engadget Comments for http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/21/hp-confirms-slate-alive-and-well-determining-next-steps-on-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/21/hp-confirms-slate-alive-and-well-determining-next-steps-on-t/Jul 21st 2010 12:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/21/hp-confirms-slate-alive-and-well-determining-next-steps-on-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/21/hp-confirms-slate-alive-and-well-determining-next-steps-on-t/
You need the black border on tablets to be able to hold it without pressing things or moving the screen.


Sent from my iPad ]]>Jul 21st 2010 12:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/21/hp-confirms-slate-alive-and-well-determining-next-steps-on-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/21/hp-confirms-slate-alive-and-well-determining-next-steps-on-t/Although we know that black borders are necessary, was it necessary that you mention you sent it from your ipad? It's not like you should be too proud, since you can't even view the whole internetz. ]]>Jul 21st 2010 12:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/21/hp-confirms-slate-alive-and-well-determining-next-steps-on-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/21/hp-confirms-slate-alive-and-well-determining-next-steps-on-t/
An iPad is not a computer.
A HP Slate with Windows 7 is a full featured computer.

Remember that.]]>Jul 21st 2010 12:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/21/hp-confirms-slate-alive-and-well-determining-next-steps-on-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/21/hp-confirms-slate-alive-and-well-determining-next-steps-on-t/
As stated previously, the bezel is definitely needed to hold the device. BUT I usually hold my iPad like a waiter (no fingers on the edges, just my hand on the back), so the bezel is not needed if you use it that way.

My Dream: An OLED screen that covers the entire front of the screen, but the edges can be shut off to form a pseudo-bezel.

I don't care if this is on a phone, tablet, or whatever.... somebody needs to get creative with the uses of OLED screens.]]>Jul 21st 2010 12:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/21/hp-confirms-slate-alive-and-well-determining-next-steps-on-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/21/hp-confirms-slate-alive-and-well-determining-next-steps-on-t/Jul 21st 2010 12:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/21/hp-confirms-slate-alive-and-well-determining-next-steps-on-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/21/hp-confirms-slate-alive-and-well-determining-next-steps-on-t/Jul 21st 2010 12:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/21/hp-confirms-slate-alive-and-well-determining-next-steps-on-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/21/hp-confirms-slate-alive-and-well-determining-next-steps-on-t/
Whether you like it or not, the iPad IS a computer. Limited/restricted as it is, it's still technically a computer.]]>Jul 21st 2010 12:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/21/hp-confirms-slate-alive-and-well-determining-next-steps-on-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/21/hp-confirms-slate-alive-and-well-determining-next-steps-on-t/Jul 21st 2010 12:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/21/hp-confirms-slate-alive-and-well-determining-next-steps-on-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/21/hp-confirms-slate-alive-and-well-determining-next-steps-on-t/
So what makes the iPad NOT a computer?]]>Jul 21st 2010 12:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/21/hp-confirms-slate-alive-and-well-determining-next-steps-on-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/21/hp-confirms-slate-alive-and-well-determining-next-steps-on-t/
A REAL computer will be able to run Adobe Flash flawlessly, won't be tied to iTunes, and doesn't require a REAL COMPUTER to be synced at when you first purchase it.

An iPad, is an oversized iPod Touch. Face it.]]>Jul 21st 2010 12:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/21/hp-confirms-slate-alive-and-well-determining-next-steps-on-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/21/hp-confirms-slate-alive-and-well-determining-next-steps-on-t/1. The HP Slate is vaporware.
2. Windows 7 on a tablet is a piece of shyte.
3. iPad, 3.3 million; HP Slate, Zero]]>Jul 21st 2010 12:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/21/hp-confirms-slate-alive-and-well-determining-next-steps-on-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/21/hp-confirms-slate-alive-and-well-determining-next-steps-on-t/
My dream is like your's, but have the bezel be an inactive touchscreen portion, and just display part of the background/video in full screen. It would need software and UI tweaks though.]]>Jul 21st 2010 12:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/21/hp-confirms-slate-alive-and-well-determining-next-steps-on-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/21/hp-confirms-slate-alive-and-well-determining-next-steps-on-t/
What your definition of a computer is, will always vary between people. What you listed are things you personally want, which is irrelevant.

Matter of fact, any device with a processing unit that can compute data is a computer.]]>Jul 21st 2010 12:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/21/hp-confirms-slate-alive-and-well-determining-next-steps-on-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/21/hp-confirms-slate-alive-and-well-determining-next-steps-on-t/
Well TECHNICALLY... the classical definition a computer is something with input, output and a processing unit that does calculations.

So yes, the iPad is a computer, abeit a not very useful one beyond being a toy. A very expensive toy that is.]]>Jul 21st 2010 12:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/21/hp-confirms-slate-alive-and-well-determining-next-steps-on-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/21/hp-confirms-slate-alive-and-well-determining-next-steps-on-t/
Also a lot of flash stuff and other things work better with rollovers, it may have flash, but kind of useless if you can't do contextual clicking and rollovers for a lot of it... Fix that problem on any slate and then flash will be a valid argument in my opinion.]]>Jul 21st 2010 12:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/21/hp-confirms-slate-alive-and-well-determining-next-steps-on-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/21/hp-confirms-slate-alive-and-well-determining-next-steps-on-t/Jul 21st 2010 12:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/21/hp-confirms-slate-alive-and-well-determining-next-steps-on-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/21/hp-confirms-slate-alive-and-well-determining-next-steps-on-t/
Great, someone contact Wikipedia since someone just redefine the world Computer here.
]]>Jul 21st 2010 12:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/21/hp-confirms-slate-alive-and-well-determining-next-steps-on-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/21/hp-confirms-slate-alive-and-well-determining-next-steps-on-t/Yeah, that dude's a total jerk!


Sent from my G1]]>Jul 21st 2010 12:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/21/hp-confirms-slate-alive-and-well-determining-next-steps-on-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/21/hp-confirms-slate-alive-and-well-determining-next-steps-on-t/Jul 21st 2010 1:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/21/hp-confirms-slate-alive-and-well-determining-next-steps-on-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/21/hp-confirms-slate-alive-and-well-determining-next-steps-on-t/Jul 21st 2010 1:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/21/hp-confirms-slate-alive-and-well-determining-next-steps-on-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/21/hp-confirms-slate-alive-and-well-determining-next-steps-on-t/
Which makes NOW the time these other tablets should be out. Not 'later this year' (particularly with no actual date). If they were in stores right now then those that are on the fence about going Apple would be able to play with all the options and might decide that yeah, having Flash is THAT important, or the apps are better on an Android tablet etc. And skip the ipad. But on the flip, the ipad is what is out there and no options in site, a lot of the fence will just dive in with Apple because they can't stand not having something. ]]>Jul 21st 2010 1:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/21/hp-confirms-slate-alive-and-well-determining-next-steps-on-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/21/hp-confirms-slate-alive-and-well-determining-next-steps-on-t/
The thing is that for a huge number of folks an oversized ipod touch is exactly what they need. Not a full on tablet computer that can do Final Cut etc.

So that dig actually becomes a reason to get the ipad. ]]>Jul 21st 2010 1:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/21/hp-confirms-slate-alive-and-well-determining-next-steps-on-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/21/hp-confirms-slate-alive-and-well-determining-next-steps-on-t/
Which is why if this gets released, it will be an insignificant player in the market. Very few people want or were asking for a Window 7 tablet. There are already dozens out there.

HP's best chance of success is an Android based tablet the 8-10" range. It's a product people would buy in order to use Android apps instead of a small phone screen.]]>Jul 21st 2010 1:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/21/hp-confirms-slate-alive-and-well-determining-next-steps-on-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/21/hp-confirms-slate-alive-and-well-determining-next-steps-on-t/Jul 21st 2010 1:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/21/hp-confirms-slate-alive-and-well-determining-next-steps-on-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/21/hp-confirms-slate-alive-and-well-determining-next-steps-on-t/Jul 21st 2010 1:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/21/hp-confirms-slate-alive-and-well-determining-next-steps-on-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/21/hp-confirms-slate-alive-and-well-determining-next-steps-on-t/whatever you want to call the iPad, it's kicking the shit out of "real" tablet computers.]]>Jul 21st 2010 1:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/21/hp-confirms-slate-alive-and-well-determining-next-steps-on-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/21/hp-confirms-slate-alive-and-well-determining-next-steps-on-t/I tagged it because I was giving my credentials as a tablet user. I could of said it anyway that was just the easiest.

@revolutionary
I only said that as a tablet, it needs the border. I'll be happy to discuss that with you elsewhere.

@brockorr I hold mine like that often too but it's nice to be able to hold it in anyway unlike a certain phone. ]]>Jul 21st 2010 2:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/21/hp-confirms-slate-alive-and-well-determining-next-steps-on-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/21/hp-confirms-slate-alive-and-well-determining-next-steps-on-t/Jul 21st 2010 2:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/21/hp-confirms-slate-alive-and-well-determining-next-steps-on-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/21/hp-confirms-slate-alive-and-well-determining-next-steps-on-t/If people didn't try doing things different ways, most people wouldn't be accessing the internet. And many of those who were, would think AOL is the internet.

Apple is doing the same thing, trying to shape the net how they want it, and virtually erasing everything at Archive.org]]>Jul 21st 2010 4:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/21/hp-confirms-slate-alive-and-well-determining-next-steps-on-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/21/hp-confirms-slate-alive-and-well-determining-next-steps-on-t/you make no damn sense. You and so many people believe that b/c there isn't a full featured OS on the ipad that it isn't a computer? You're brain dead dude.
The ipad, my g shock are all computers.

]]>Jul 21st 2010 5:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/21/hp-confirms-slate-alive-and-well-determining-next-steps-on-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/21/hp-confirms-slate-alive-and-well-determining-next-steps-on-t/
The iPad is quite literally iPod touch hardware fixed to the left side of the device, inside a larger chassis to house a big screen and two large batteries.

If an iPod is a computer, then my phone and pocket calculator are computers.

Get real! =p]]>Jul 21st 2010 5:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/21/hp-confirms-slate-alive-and-well-determining-next-steps-on-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/21/hp-confirms-slate-alive-and-well-determining-next-steps-on-t/
If someone calls IT support and asks for a loaner computer, and you hand them a G-shock watch, you deserve to be slapped upside the head.]]>Jul 21st 2010 6:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/21/hp-confirms-slate-alive-and-well-determining-next-steps-on-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/21/hp-confirms-slate-alive-and-well-determining-next-steps-on-t/Jul 21st 2010 8:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/21/hp-confirms-slate-alive-and-well-determining-next-steps-on-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/21/hp-confirms-slate-alive-and-well-determining-next-steps-on-t/Whether a device is a computer or not has nothing to to with Flash support, iTunes, multitasking, copy/paste, keyboard, screen, RAM, tethering or even support for MMS.

It doesn't take much to be a computer but it has to do with Turing machines, universal Turing machines, Turing completeness, algorithms, grammars, instruction languages, Church-Turing theory, recursive function theory, lamda calculus, processing units, storage, memory and the like.

The modern electronic computer was invented in the 1940ies. Don't make a fool of yourself by claiming that computers = machines running Windows.
]]>Jul 21st 2010 9:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/21/hp-confirms-slate-alive-and-well-determining-next-steps-on-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/21/hp-confirms-slate-alive-and-well-determining-next-steps-on-t/
Don't be obtuse.

You people act like there is no common use term for computer. No, it doesn't have to be running Windows, but it should be running Ubuntu or OSX or Redhat and have hardware specifications common to standard expectations.

Yes, we get it, by the technical definition my old Casio watch was a computer since it has the ability to compute calculations. But if someone asks you what kind of computer you have, you'd be a jackass if you describe your iPod, wrist watch, or cellphone.]]>Jul 21st 2010 10:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/21/hp-confirms-slate-alive-and-well-determining-next-steps-on-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/21/hp-confirms-slate-alive-and-well-determining-next-steps-on-t/Jul 21st 2010 11:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/21/hp-confirms-slate-alive-and-well-determining-next-steps-on-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/21/hp-confirms-slate-alive-and-well-determining-next-steps-on-t/
While OLED is definitely a cool technology, it's one of the most expensive to implement atm on your "mainstream" kind of product. I believe the cost for OLED is more than 3x that of LCD.]]>Jul 22nd 2010 2:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/21/hp-confirms-slate-alive-and-well-determining-next-steps-on-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/21/hp-confirms-slate-alive-and-well-determining-next-steps-on-t/Jul 21st 2010 12:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/21/hp-confirms-slate-alive-and-well-determining-next-steps-on-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/21/hp-confirms-slate-alive-and-well-determining-next-steps-on-t/
Make sure the Slate is light and easy to pickup as well!

I'm buying it fa shao]]>Jul 21st 2010 1:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/21/hp-confirms-slate-alive-and-well-determining-next-steps-on-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/21/hp-confirms-slate-alive-and-well-determining-next-steps-on-t/it'll come out, and you'll change ur mind. Probably]]>Jul 21st 2010 10:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/21/hp-confirms-slate-alive-and-well-determining-next-steps-on-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/21/hp-confirms-slate-alive-and-well-determining-next-steps-on-t/Jul 21st 2010 12:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/21/hp-confirms-slate-alive-and-well-determining-next-steps-on-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/21/hp-confirms-slate-alive-and-well-determining-next-steps-on-t/Jul 21st 2010 12:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/21/hp-confirms-slate-alive-and-well-determining-next-steps-on-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/21/hp-confirms-slate-alive-and-well-determining-next-steps-on-t/Jul 21st 2010 12:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/21/hp-confirms-slate-alive-and-well-determining-next-steps-on-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/21/hp-confirms-slate-alive-and-well-determining-next-steps-on-t/I'm sure they spent a lot on R&D to work on it. I never understood why people were thinking it would be cancelled with it so close to being ready.
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The iPad? Yeah, I agree.]]>Jul 21st 2010 2:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/21/hp-confirms-slate-alive-and-well-determining-next-steps-on-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/21/hp-confirms-slate-alive-and-well-determining-next-steps-on-t/Jul 21st 2010 7:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/21/hp-confirms-slate-alive-and-well-determining-next-steps-on-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/21/hp-confirms-slate-alive-and-well-determining-next-steps-on-t/Jul 21st 2010 12:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/21/hp-confirms-slate-alive-and-well-determining-next-steps-on-t/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/21/hp-confirms-slate-alive-and-well-determining-next-steps-on-t/
Strange logic. ]]>Jul 21st 2010 12:33PM