http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/22/hp-slate-no-longer-a-consumer-product-will-arrive-for-enterpris/ Engadget Comments for http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/22/hp-slate-no-longer-a-consumer-product-will-arrive-for-enterpris/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/22/hp-slate-no-longer-a-consumer-product-will-arrive-for-enterpris/Jul 22nd 2010 5:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/22/hp-slate-no-longer-a-consumer-product-will-arrive-for-enterpris/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/22/hp-slate-no-longer-a-consumer-product-will-arrive-for-enterpris/I concur, I as a consumer would love to have the enterprise features on my consumer tablet, not some "dumbed down" OS with restricted functionality. ]]>Jul 22nd 2010 5:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/22/hp-slate-no-longer-a-consumer-product-will-arrive-for-enterpris/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/22/hp-slate-no-longer-a-consumer-product-will-arrive-for-enterpris/
i had dreams of the slate]]>Jul 22nd 2010 5:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/22/hp-slate-no-longer-a-consumer-product-will-arrive-for-enterpris/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/22/hp-slate-no-longer-a-consumer-product-will-arrive-for-enterpris/2 days ago when the news came out that the slate was still alive, most people here were hyped about it. And I said i wouldn't get my hopes up high. Look what's happening now. They take you to the top of Universe and then shoot you down to Earth. Not cool HP. I hope those WebOS tablets/devices are exceptional to win me back.]]>Jul 22nd 2010 6:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/22/hp-slate-no-longer-a-consumer-product-will-arrive-for-enterpris/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/22/hp-slate-no-longer-a-consumer-product-will-arrive-for-enterpris/
Join Starfleet, and you might have a crack at one.]]>Jul 22nd 2010 6:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/22/hp-slate-no-longer-a-consumer-product-will-arrive-for-enterpris/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/22/hp-slate-no-longer-a-consumer-product-will-arrive-for-enterpris/unlike the courier, this project actually had a finished product, but it's too bad for them if they want to throw most of it away...]]>Jul 22nd 2010 6:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/22/hp-slate-no-longer-a-consumer-product-will-arrive-for-enterpris/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/22/hp-slate-no-longer-a-consumer-product-will-arrive-for-enterpris/
Does this mean I can't buy it even if I want to?]]>Jul 22nd 2010 6:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/22/hp-slate-no-longer-a-consumer-product-will-arrive-for-enterpris/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/22/hp-slate-no-longer-a-consumer-product-will-arrive-for-enterpris/
You can buy an Elitebook just like you can buy a Latitude. Small business customer service and support is also usually a grade above the stuff on the consumer page.

The real question then is just does that mean that HP intends for this to be a premium product, and WebOS will be their cheaper consumer device?]]>Jul 22nd 2010 6:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/22/hp-slate-no-longer-a-consumer-product-will-arrive-for-enterpris/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/22/hp-slate-no-longer-a-consumer-product-will-arrive-for-enterpris/Jul 22nd 2010 6:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/22/hp-slate-no-longer-a-consumer-product-will-arrive-for-enterpris/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/22/hp-slate-no-longer-a-consumer-product-will-arrive-for-enterpris/
Lets have a race. Which arrives first?

1) HP Slate
2) Duke Nukem Forever]]>Jul 22nd 2010 6:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/22/hp-slate-no-longer-a-consumer-product-will-arrive-for-enterpris/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/22/hp-slate-no-longer-a-consumer-product-will-arrive-for-enterpris/
Duke Nukem Forever.... obviously]]>Jul 22nd 2010 6:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/22/hp-slate-no-longer-a-consumer-product-will-arrive-for-enterpris/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/22/hp-slate-no-longer-a-consumer-product-will-arrive-for-enterpris/Yeah, like most consumers want some useless enterprise features on their family tablet. Instant financial failure. No wonder why Microsoft couldn't turn their tablets into consumer success. Catering to nerds is a waste of time and money. Guaranteed this HP Slate will be a failure even at the enterprise level. Ballmer probably had get on his knees and begged HP to continue the Slate project.]]>Jul 22nd 2010 8:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/22/hp-slate-no-longer-a-consumer-product-will-arrive-for-enterpris/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/22/hp-slate-no-longer-a-consumer-product-will-arrive-for-enterpris/Noob who plays pc games?]]>Jul 22nd 2010 9:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/22/hp-slate-no-longer-a-consumer-product-will-arrive-for-enterpris/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/22/hp-slate-no-longer-a-consumer-product-will-arrive-for-enterpris/
Meh, a new consumer product with WebOS 2.0 = WIN

I'm sure it will be soon]]>Jul 23rd 2010 2:59AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/22/hp-slate-no-longer-a-consumer-product-will-arrive-for-enterpris/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/22/hp-slate-no-longer-a-consumer-product-will-arrive-for-enterpris/I'd love to see you tap your way out of a death tournament match in UT.]]>Jul 23rd 2010 8:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/22/hp-slate-no-longer-a-consumer-product-will-arrive-for-enterpris/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/22/hp-slate-no-longer-a-consumer-product-will-arrive-for-enterpris/
Don't worry, my friend. Your dreams will become an even better reality in 2 months when the ExoPC tablets debut. They improve upon the limited amount of specs we had for the HP Slate in every way, and at a price that matches the iPad.]]>Jul 23rd 2010 10:12AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/22/hp-slate-no-longer-a-consumer-product-will-arrive-for-enterpris/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/22/hp-slate-no-longer-a-consumer-product-will-arrive-for-enterpris/Jul 23rd 2010 11:49AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/22/hp-slate-no-longer-a-consumer-product-will-arrive-for-enterpris/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/22/hp-slate-no-longer-a-consumer-product-will-arrive-for-enterpris/Jul 26th 2010 9:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/22/hp-slate-no-longer-a-consumer-product-will-arrive-for-enterpris/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/22/hp-slate-no-longer-a-consumer-product-will-arrive-for-enterpris/Jul 22nd 2010 5:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/22/hp-slate-no-longer-a-consumer-product-will-arrive-for-enterpris/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/22/hp-slate-no-longer-a-consumer-product-will-arrive-for-enterpris/Jul 22nd 2010 7:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/22/hp-slate-no-longer-a-consumer-product-will-arrive-for-enterpris/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/22/hp-slate-no-longer-a-consumer-product-will-arrive-for-enterpris/
iPad WIN !]]>Jul 23rd 2010 12:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/22/hp-slate-no-longer-a-consumer-product-will-arrive-for-enterpris/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/22/hp-slate-no-longer-a-consumer-product-will-arrive-for-enterpris/Jul 22nd 2010 5:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/22/hp-slate-no-longer-a-consumer-product-will-arrive-for-enterpris/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/22/hp-slate-no-longer-a-consumer-product-will-arrive-for-enterpris/
Did it have "something" to do with his "excessive" use of "quotes"?]]>Jul 22nd 2010 9:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/22/hp-slate-no-longer-a-consumer-product-will-arrive-for-enterpris/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/22/hp-slate-no-longer-a-consumer-product-will-arrive-for-enterpris/Jul 22nd 2010 5:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/22/hp-slate-no-longer-a-consumer-product-will-arrive-for-enterpris/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/22/hp-slate-no-longer-a-consumer-product-will-arrive-for-enterpris/Why? If you want a Win7 tablet PC you can buy one now. Win7 on an iPad-like slate is like an elephant on a skateboard - each has strengths but neither was designed for the other. Now, WebOS on a slate is a different matter. Methinks HP is only paying Microsoft lipservice with this announcement and is putting its real eggs into a WebOS slate.
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Asus is going to roll out with one but with theirs it'll have a keyboard dock that can turn it into a laptop. So you get a laptop and a slate in one.]]>Jul 22nd 2010 6:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/22/hp-slate-no-longer-a-consumer-product-will-arrive-for-enterpris/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/22/hp-slate-no-longer-a-consumer-product-will-arrive-for-enterpris/
I'd like a netbook but in tablet form. I still believe a tablet-specific iteration of Windows 7 (centered around touchscreen control, leaving other functionality of the OS the same) would be very powerful.

Installing Steam and running some of the netbook-capable games with an elegant implementation of cursor emulation would be amazing. You'd leverage everything from the netbook world but gain many of the advantages of a tablet form factor. If this were done properly it would almost totally supercede netbooks, as the ASUS model may prove.

I think this concept would need a heavy dose of innovation, but nothing that should be out of reach from a company with as many resources as Microsoft :)]]>Jul 22nd 2010 6:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/22/hp-slate-no-longer-a-consumer-product-will-arrive-for-enterpris/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/22/hp-slate-no-longer-a-consumer-product-will-arrive-for-enterpris/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBtEhQqS1dw

When people witnessed this in demos, it met great applause. Then Steve Jobs worked his marketing magic, and somehow convinced people that you can't touch a full operating system.]]>Jul 22nd 2010 8:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/22/hp-slate-no-longer-a-consumer-product-will-arrive-for-enterpris/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/22/hp-slate-no-longer-a-consumer-product-will-arrive-for-enterpris/
Wow, that's really cool! Looks like what I've been looking for already exists.]]>Jul 22nd 2010 8:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/22/hp-slate-no-longer-a-consumer-product-will-arrive-for-enterpris/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/22/hp-slate-no-longer-a-consumer-product-will-arrive-for-enterpris/
Were we looking at the same video. That looked awkward and choppy. Typing on the keyboard was slow and zooming was horrific.

Nobody is saying that the windows 7 OS can't do touch. What people are saying is that the applications made for windows 7 are not designed for touch. The guys demo was completely misleading. He went around haphazardly with his fingers and after he pressed things explained what was happening. Most people need to pick a specific tool or a specific email, not the one where your finger just happens to hit. He plowed through the tools in Word displaying the even smaller subtools and options, but he didn't even select anything.

Lets see him do an actual project in something like photoshop, autocad, dreamweaver or better yet lets see him play a game.

I don't buy that video for a second.]]>Jul 22nd 2010 11:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/22/hp-slate-no-longer-a-consumer-product-will-arrive-for-enterpris/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/22/hp-slate-no-longer-a-consumer-product-will-arrive-for-enterpris/
Exactly. I totally agree.

You know how Apple and Android are platforms for writing *new* apps specifically designed for your finger?

I don't think there will be a "touch optimized" version of Filezilla any time soon. It's a regular Windows app, just like the huge catalog of other Windows apps.

Windows tablets of yesterday were all convertible tablets anyway... they knew they couldn't sell a Windows machine like that without a keyboard and touchpad.

So what changed between then and now? Nothing.

Does HP honestly think they will sell more Windows machines by *removing* the keyboard?]]>Jul 23rd 2010 2:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/22/hp-slate-no-longer-a-consumer-product-will-arrive-for-enterpris/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/22/hp-slate-no-longer-a-consumer-product-will-arrive-for-enterpris/
I have a very nice windows 7 pro netbook- the Vaio X. It runs a 2Ghz Atom processor, 2GB RAM and 64 GB SSD hard drive.

It's around 2.5lb with a 6 hour battery, 1/2 inch thick, 1366x768 resolution LED screen and a beautiful carbon fibre casing! Includes VGA output, 2 USB slots, SD card slot and front facing camera. As much as I love it, the biggest drawback v an iPad include:

1. It can get too hot for a tablet

2. Starting it up can take a good minute and a half. Even waking up from hibernation can take over 30 secs. Too long for an always available device.

3. Most apps take a long time to open.

4. Battery life with video is poor. My 6 hour battery turns to 2 hours of video.

5. Wifi and 3G connection and switching isn't as seamless as on the iPad.

In terms of general usability the windows 7 netbook is nowhere close to an iPad. So it's more than making win 7 touch friendly. It's not designed to work with a low powered processor power sipping processor.

I own both products but the vaio is getting a lot less usage now because of it's slowness in getting started and launching of apps etc.

Hulu stutters like crazy on the netbook, while it's smooth on the iPad. That is pretty much the only Flash site I use.]]>Jul 23rd 2010 3:55AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/22/hp-slate-no-longer-a-consumer-product-will-arrive-for-enterpris/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/22/hp-slate-no-longer-a-consumer-product-will-arrive-for-enterpris/Jul 22nd 2010 5:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/22/hp-slate-no-longer-a-consumer-product-will-arrive-for-enterpris/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/22/hp-slate-no-longer-a-consumer-product-will-arrive-for-enterpris/Jul 22nd 2010 5:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/22/hp-slate-no-longer-a-consumer-product-will-arrive-for-enterpris/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/22/hp-slate-no-longer-a-consumer-product-will-arrive-for-enterpris/Jul 22nd 2010 5:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/22/hp-slate-no-longer-a-consumer-product-will-arrive-for-enterpris/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/22/hp-slate-no-longer-a-consumer-product-will-arrive-for-enterpris/Jul 22nd 2010 5:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/22/hp-slate-no-longer-a-consumer-product-will-arrive-for-enterpris/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/22/hp-slate-no-longer-a-consumer-product-will-arrive-for-enterpris/Jul 22nd 2010 6:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/22/hp-slate-no-longer-a-consumer-product-will-arrive-for-enterpris/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/22/hp-slate-no-longer-a-consumer-product-will-arrive-for-enterpris/Jul 22nd 2010 5:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/22/hp-slate-no-longer-a-consumer-product-will-arrive-for-enterpris/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/22/hp-slate-no-longer-a-consumer-product-will-arrive-for-enterpris/Jul 22nd 2010 6:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/22/hp-slate-no-longer-a-consumer-product-will-arrive-for-enterpris/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/22/hp-slate-no-longer-a-consumer-product-will-arrive-for-enterpris/
You must be blind. Apple has sold over 3 million iPads, and there are tons of apps available for it.]]>Jul 22nd 2010 6:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/22/hp-slate-no-longer-a-consumer-product-will-arrive-for-enterpris/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/22/hp-slate-no-longer-a-consumer-product-will-arrive-for-enterpris/]]>Jul 22nd 2010 6:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/22/hp-slate-no-longer-a-consumer-product-will-arrive-for-enterpris/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/22/hp-slate-no-longer-a-consumer-product-will-arrive-for-enterpris/Actually, the iPad is unlocked, unlike the iPhone. Apple did something right to sell 3 million in 3 months so it is frustrating to see no response yet. A WebOS slate is overdue. Hopefully, HP is putting its slate resources there and not in Win7.
]]>Jul 22nd 2010 6:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/22/hp-slate-no-longer-a-consumer-product-will-arrive-for-enterpris/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/22/hp-slate-no-longer-a-consumer-product-will-arrive-for-enterpris/
Fine, the iPad does't fit your needs, you're a nerdy hacker that wants it to be open. Apple has figured out what "their" customers wanted and successfully brought a product to market. I'm simply saying, PC manufactures haven't figured out how to bring a tablet to market that satisfies you.

You need to understand that there are people who don't have any knowledge of computers and want something simple and easy to use. This makes up the majority of Apple users.]]>Jul 22nd 2010 6:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/22/hp-slate-no-longer-a-consumer-product-will-arrive-for-enterpris/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/22/hp-slate-no-longer-a-consumer-product-will-arrive-for-enterpris/
oh wait, it's a tablet.... so all your full OS mouse based programs will suck.....

What else do you do on a slower computer/netbook/tablet? surf the web, brief document editing, taking notes, maybe a small game here and there..... hmm the iPad (android, and a future webOS tablet) can do all that....

When will people get through their heads that for a tablet to be successful it needs to be strongly coupled between the form factor, user interface, and software? Throwing win7 on it means nothing, its not optimized for touch (and i am not talking about some band-aid hack that adds a touch layer)]]>Jul 22nd 2010 6:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/22/hp-slate-no-longer-a-consumer-product-will-arrive-for-enterpris/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/22/hp-slate-no-longer-a-consumer-product-will-arrive-for-enterpris/A tablet computer is still a tablet computer, even if engadget commenter watership doesn't like the OS it's running. If you want a tablet PC that's fine, but don't assume 'computer' means just that for everyone else.]]>Jul 22nd 2010 6:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/22/hp-slate-no-longer-a-consumer-product-will-arrive-for-enterpris/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/22/hp-slate-no-longer-a-consumer-product-will-arrive-for-enterpris/
Actually I think the majority of Apple users are comfortable with computers, they just don't want to have to deal with the complexities most of the time. Thats the bucket I fall in to. I CAN dig into the guts and know my way around, but most of the time i'd rather just get things done. I want to be able to read my e-mail, browse the web, watch videos, etc. that makes up over 80% of my computer use. If I can get a device like the iPad that covers most of my needs most of the time, whats wrong with that? It's more than worth the tradeoffs in complexity and customizeability in exchange for ease of use, stability, security, long battery life, etc. For the heavy lifting I have my desktop.]]>Jul 22nd 2010 6:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/22/hp-slate-no-longer-a-consumer-product-will-arrive-for-enterpris/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/22/hp-slate-no-longer-a-consumer-product-will-arrive-for-enterpris/Jul 22nd 2010 10:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/22/hp-slate-no-longer-a-consumer-product-will-arrive-for-enterpris/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/22/hp-slate-no-longer-a-consumer-product-will-arrive-for-enterpris/" Translation: I want all the benefits of a wood-burning Aga kitchen range in a toaster size."]]>Jul 23rd 2010 6:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/22/hp-slate-no-longer-a-consumer-product-will-arrive-for-enterpris/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/22/hp-slate-no-longer-a-consumer-product-will-arrive-for-enterpris/
-Sent from my iPad]]>Jul 22nd 2010 5:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/22/hp-slate-no-longer-a-consumer-product-will-arrive-for-enterpris/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/22/hp-slate-no-longer-a-consumer-product-will-arrive-for-enterpris/Besides HP is junk. Look at their calculators for instance. They are poorly built and still sport the same shitty interface after 20 plus years. they only thing HP did was changed the case. They suck.
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