http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/23/apple-keeps-antennagate-alive-with-droid-xs-kill-switch-vide/ Engadget Comments for http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/23/apple-keeps-antennagate-alive-with-droid-xs-kill-switch-vide/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/23/apple-keeps-antennagate-alive-with-droid-xs-kill-switch-vide/Jul 23rd 2010 7:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/23/apple-keeps-antennagate-alive-with-droid-xs-kill-switch-vide/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/23/apple-keeps-antennagate-alive-with-droid-xs-kill-switch-vide/Apple = Fail. Give it up Steve. ]]>Jul 23rd 2010 7:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/23/apple-keeps-antennagate-alive-with-droid-xs-kill-switch-vide/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/23/apple-keeps-antennagate-alive-with-droid-xs-kill-switch-vide/
A phone that never received press like this for its antenna.

Looking at the customer complaints about is being ridiculously low(especially concerned with antenna issues), and the return rate being a fraction of the 3Gs, this phone is doing fine.

I see no reason why Apple can't show that other phones do that same thing. They shot back? so what.

Source** Apple Press conference.]]>Jul 23rd 2010 7:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/23/apple-keeps-antennagate-alive-with-droid-xs-kill-switch-vide/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/23/apple-keeps-antennagate-alive-with-droid-xs-kill-switch-vide/Jul 23rd 2010 7:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/23/apple-keeps-antennagate-alive-with-droid-xs-kill-switch-vide/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/23/apple-keeps-antennagate-alive-with-droid-xs-kill-switch-vide/
The reason i ask is because i keep hearing people say that they can't reproduce this with their phone, and unfortunately apple has never tried to this little trick with a phone that I own :(.

Thanks in advance to whoever answers my question.]]>Jul 23rd 2010 7:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/23/apple-keeps-antennagate-alive-with-droid-xs-kill-switch-vide/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/23/apple-keeps-antennagate-alive-with-droid-xs-kill-switch-vide/Jul 23rd 2010 7:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/23/apple-keeps-antennagate-alive-with-droid-xs-kill-switch-vide/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/23/apple-keeps-antennagate-alive-with-droid-xs-kill-switch-vide/
Don't you understand? Other phones also drop calls when you merely touch the wrong place...oh wait, they don't.]]>Jul 23rd 2010 7:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/23/apple-keeps-antennagate-alive-with-droid-xs-kill-switch-vide/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/23/apple-keeps-antennagate-alive-with-droid-xs-kill-switch-vide/
go ahead and call them and tell them they are wrong

http://blogs.consumerreports.org/electronics/2010/07/apple-iphone-4-antenna-issue-iphone4-problems-dropped-calls-lab-test-confirmed-problem-issues-signal-strength-att-network-gsm.html]]>Jul 23rd 2010 7:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/23/apple-keeps-antennagate-alive-with-droid-xs-kill-switch-vide/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/23/apple-keeps-antennagate-alive-with-droid-xs-kill-switch-vide/
0 calls dropped with my iPhone 4. Honest Truth.

Why do you guys without iPhones keep telling us how our phones are performing?? ]]>Jul 23rd 2010 7:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/23/apple-keeps-antennagate-alive-with-droid-xs-kill-switch-vide/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/23/apple-keeps-antennagate-alive-with-droid-xs-kill-switch-vide/Jul 23rd 2010 7:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/23/apple-keeps-antennagate-alive-with-droid-xs-kill-switch-vide/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/23/apple-keeps-antennagate-alive-with-droid-xs-kill-switch-vide/
Engadget, how about you guys do your own squeezing test of all the phones that apple has shown in their little videos and see if there's any funny business?

Do it mythbusters style and hold the phone like how people hold the iphone to make it lose signals (very lightly) and then give it the apple death grip like in these videos and we'll see how honest these things are.

*goes to read another article*]]>Jul 23rd 2010 7:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/23/apple-keeps-antennagate-alive-with-droid-xs-kill-switch-vide/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/23/apple-keeps-antennagate-alive-with-droid-xs-kill-switch-vide/
the thing that concerns me most with these "ads" or whatever you want to call them is that, to a techie person (engadget reader viewer) they seems malicious and pointless, but to the average consumer who knows nothing other than what they see from friends or the public media(tv commercials etc...) these "ads actually are helping apple since they dont know any better (they being the consumer).

and as such a arguably defective product will still sell well.

On another completely unrelated note, Apple needs to release a new iPod touch with iOS 4 and the same look of the iPhone 4.]]>Jul 23rd 2010 7:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/23/apple-keeps-antennagate-alive-with-droid-xs-kill-switch-vide/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/23/apple-keeps-antennagate-alive-with-droid-xs-kill-switch-vide/
wow i just did that with my EVO and guess what i went form 2 bars to 4. I guess the EVO gets stronger ummm.]]>Jul 23rd 2010 7:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/23/apple-keeps-antennagate-alive-with-droid-xs-kill-switch-vide/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/23/apple-keeps-antennagate-alive-with-droid-xs-kill-switch-vide/Jul 23rd 2010 7:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/23/apple-keeps-antennagate-alive-with-droid-xs-kill-switch-vide/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/23/apple-keeps-antennagate-alive-with-droid-xs-kill-switch-vide/
You sound like my friend that we all call "Tampon" because he argues about everything, even after everybody has accepted that you're wrong and moved on.]]>Jul 23rd 2010 7:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/23/apple-keeps-antennagate-alive-with-droid-xs-kill-switch-vide/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/23/apple-keeps-antennagate-alive-with-droid-xs-kill-switch-vide/The media made some shit up, and you ate it up.

]]>Jul 23rd 2010 7:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/23/apple-keeps-antennagate-alive-with-droid-xs-kill-switch-vide/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/23/apple-keeps-antennagate-alive-with-droid-xs-kill-switch-vide/Jul 23rd 2010 7:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/23/apple-keeps-antennagate-alive-with-droid-xs-kill-switch-vide/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/23/apple-keeps-antennagate-alive-with-droid-xs-kill-switch-vide/
no they didnt shoot back, in order to shoot back someone would have had to shoot at them first. They are dragging other manufacturers into thier problem that have nothing to do with the issue. It was Apples CUSTOMERS who took the first shot. In turn Apple took shots at their competition. Think of it like this. You get caught running in the house from your mom and get yelled at so instead of saying you're sorry and it wont happen again you say "well joey, and bobby did it too!!!" - bad look apple.]]>Jul 23rd 2010 7:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/23/apple-keeps-antennagate-alive-with-droid-xs-kill-switch-vide/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/23/apple-keeps-antennagate-alive-with-droid-xs-kill-switch-vide/
The sad thing is that I was just reminded of the iPhone's issues thanks to this.

Sometimes its best to shut the hell up and not speak unless spoken to...]]>Jul 23rd 2010 7:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/23/apple-keeps-antennagate-alive-with-droid-xs-kill-switch-vide/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/23/apple-keeps-antennagate-alive-with-droid-xs-kill-switch-vide/Jul 23rd 2010 7:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/23/apple-keeps-antennagate-alive-with-droid-xs-kill-switch-vide/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/23/apple-keeps-antennagate-alive-with-droid-xs-kill-switch-vide/
Its about the new quarter. They are afraid that they might see lost in sales. Since Android is on the rise this all they can do to convince defectors to stay.]]>Jul 23rd 2010 7:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/23/apple-keeps-antennagate-alive-with-droid-xs-kill-switch-vide/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/23/apple-keeps-antennagate-alive-with-droid-xs-kill-switch-vide/Jul 23rd 2010 7:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/23/apple-keeps-antennagate-alive-with-droid-xs-kill-switch-vide/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/23/apple-keeps-antennagate-alive-with-droid-xs-kill-switch-vide/
its funny cause its true...does PC vs. Mac ring a bell. If Apple wants to talk smack they should learn how to take it also.]]>Jul 23rd 2010 7:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/23/apple-keeps-antennagate-alive-with-droid-xs-kill-switch-vide/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/23/apple-keeps-antennagate-alive-with-droid-xs-kill-switch-vide/Jul 23rd 2010 7:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/23/apple-keeps-antennagate-alive-with-droid-xs-kill-switch-vide/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/23/apple-keeps-antennagate-alive-with-droid-xs-kill-switch-vide/even with those drop bars, Verizon's reception is still better.
]]>Jul 23rd 2010 7:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/23/apple-keeps-antennagate-alive-with-droid-xs-kill-switch-vide/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/23/apple-keeps-antennagate-alive-with-droid-xs-kill-switch-vide/
I'm a professional electrical engineer and these "ads" don't seem malicious or pointless to me.

Before this press conference, these forums were littered with posts saying "the iPhone can't make calls when you hold it lol!!1!!"

Ever since Apple started posting these videos, that kind of hyperbole has disappeared. If nothing else, the fact that they've forced iPhone critics to make more nuanced arguments is a benefit to us all.]]>Jul 23rd 2010 7:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/23/apple-keeps-antennagate-alive-with-droid-xs-kill-switch-vide/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/23/apple-keeps-antennagate-alive-with-droid-xs-kill-switch-vide/Jul 23rd 2010 7:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/23/apple-keeps-antennagate-alive-with-droid-xs-kill-switch-vide/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/23/apple-keeps-antennagate-alive-with-droid-xs-kill-switch-vide/Jul 23rd 2010 7:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/23/apple-keeps-antennagate-alive-with-droid-xs-kill-switch-vide/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/23/apple-keeps-antennagate-alive-with-droid-xs-kill-switch-vide/i'm waiting apple to make one of these videos for the evo. the antenna is on the very top so they'll probably use some magic trickery to get the signal to drop or just say that "you hold big phones on the top".]]>Jul 23rd 2010 7:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/23/apple-keeps-antennagate-alive-with-droid-xs-kill-switch-vide/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/23/apple-keeps-antennagate-alive-with-droid-xs-kill-switch-vide/
So should we call BS on the Antennagate issue because the majority of iPhone users can't replicate dropped bars either? ]]>Jul 23rd 2010 7:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/23/apple-keeps-antennagate-alive-with-droid-xs-kill-switch-vide/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/23/apple-keeps-antennagate-alive-with-droid-xs-kill-switch-vide/
All of this is clearly dependent on the individual and the signal at the location they're doing the test. But as others have alluded to, the strategy here isn't to badmouth other companies and their products. It's to frame Apple as the only company that tells the truth to its customers.

B.S.? Maybe. But effective.]]>Jul 23rd 2010 7:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/23/apple-keeps-antennagate-alive-with-droid-xs-kill-switch-vide/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/23/apple-keeps-antennagate-alive-with-droid-xs-kill-switch-vide/
I'm not understanding your comment. Apple showing that these popular smartphones have the same "issue" they're phone is having (not in the sense of the same unique design flaw) is confusing the consumer?

I feel like if anything its fair for Apple to make the videos to continue to show people how overblown this issue is. It's not like Apple is saying, don't buy the DroidX or Nokia, or BB Smartphones. They're just simply showing how it's not something sooo new, or sooo drastic or sooo uniquely specified to the iPhone 4. So much that you're device doesn't function as a phone.

That's what I get from these videos. ]]>Jul 23rd 2010 7:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/23/apple-keeps-antennagate-alive-with-droid-xs-kill-switch-vide/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/23/apple-keeps-antennagate-alive-with-droid-xs-kill-switch-vide/
At this point, if they keep releasing shit like this, the public will never forget...

This is very low Apple. I had some respect for your integrity on the issue a week ago, now it's just sad...

]]>Jul 23rd 2010 7:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/23/apple-keeps-antennagate-alive-with-droid-xs-kill-switch-vide/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/23/apple-keeps-antennagate-alive-with-droid-xs-kill-switch-vide/"I see no reason why Apple can't show that other phones do that same thing. They shot back? so what."

That's the thing though. If it really is .5% why do they keep releasing these??????? I already forgot about the whole thing until this shit showed up....

]]>Jul 23rd 2010 7:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/23/apple-keeps-antennagate-alive-with-droid-xs-kill-switch-vide/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/23/apple-keeps-antennagate-alive-with-droid-xs-kill-switch-vide/BP makes $3.25 billion in two days?! Are these Zimbabwe dollars we're talking about? ]]>Jul 23rd 2010 7:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/23/apple-keeps-antennagate-alive-with-droid-xs-kill-switch-vide/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/23/apple-keeps-antennagate-alive-with-droid-xs-kill-switch-vide/
I own an iPhone 4 I do have the deathgrip antenna issue. However, it doesn't always do it. You've got to be in certain places for this to happen. I tried to show a friend of mine how it drops bars, but it just wouldn't do it at that point in time. However, he has a Blackberry Bold and he tried the deathgrip on it, and it dropped from 4 bars to 0 bars within 5 seconds.

So Apple do have a point regarding the physics behind attenuation. However, I don't think it is right for them to drag-down other companies into their own issues. But having said that, I would love to know who discovered this issue with the iPhone 4 in the first place, as the 3G AND 3GS has the exact same problem, but I guess everyone was distracted by the lack of other things, such as:

- MMS Messaging
- Cut, Copy & Paste
- Flash
...and whatever these people could think to complain about.

I still can't believe that the antenna issue reach national and international news!]]>Jul 23rd 2010 7:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/23/apple-keeps-antennagate-alive-with-droid-xs-kill-switch-vide/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/23/apple-keeps-antennagate-alive-with-droid-xs-kill-switch-vide/Jul 23rd 2010 7:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/23/apple-keeps-antennagate-alive-with-droid-xs-kill-switch-vide/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/23/apple-keeps-antennagate-alive-with-droid-xs-kill-switch-vide/Jul 23rd 2010 7:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/23/apple-keeps-antennagate-alive-with-droid-xs-kill-switch-vide/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/23/apple-keeps-antennagate-alive-with-droid-xs-kill-switch-vide/Jul 23rd 2010 7:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/23/apple-keeps-antennagate-alive-with-droid-xs-kill-switch-vide/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/23/apple-keeps-antennagate-alive-with-droid-xs-kill-switch-vide/
If no one can replicate Apple's tests performed on other manufacturer's phones, will this lead to Antennagate II?]]>Jul 23rd 2010 7:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/23/apple-keeps-antennagate-alive-with-droid-xs-kill-switch-vide/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/23/apple-keeps-antennagate-alive-with-droid-xs-kill-switch-vide/Jul 23rd 2010 7:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/23/apple-keeps-antennagate-alive-with-droid-xs-kill-switch-vide/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/23/apple-keeps-antennagate-alive-with-droid-xs-kill-switch-vide/That video is ridiculous. Who actually holds their phone like that? If you have to palm half of the phone to get the signal to change, it's not really a problem. With the iPhone you literally need just one finger, on one corner, to change the signal. There's no comparison in opinion. (I will say that this whole thing has been blow out of proportion, but Apple surely isn't helping themselves either.)

Like many people have said, trying to point fingers at other people claiming they have same problem still doesn't fix YOUR problem. This is starting to be one of the most childish things I have ever seen. Grow up Apple, and spend your time/money in a wiser fashion.]]>Jul 23rd 2010 7:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/23/apple-keeps-antennagate-alive-with-droid-xs-kill-switch-vide/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/23/apple-keeps-antennagate-alive-with-droid-xs-kill-switch-vide/apple clearly did everything in their power to get the phones to show the results they wanted. Apple why does the Droid X not show it is currently connected to 3g? ]]>Jul 23rd 2010 7:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/23/apple-keeps-antennagate-alive-with-droid-xs-kill-switch-vide/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/23/apple-keeps-antennagate-alive-with-droid-xs-kill-switch-vide/So true. The funny thing about being on Verizon is that I haven't look at bars in years, because I never drop a call, ever.]]>Jul 23rd 2010 7:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/23/apple-keeps-antennagate-alive-with-droid-xs-kill-switch-vide/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/23/apple-keeps-antennagate-alive-with-droid-xs-kill-switch-vide/Go to youtube and seach up technobuffalo. He tried to replicate these issues on a number of phones, including the x, and couldn't. Acually the x was one of the few on the clean list. I trust him more than apple.]]>Jul 23rd 2010 7:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/23/apple-keeps-antennagate-alive-with-droid-xs-kill-switch-vide/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/23/apple-keeps-antennagate-alive-with-droid-xs-kill-switch-vide/Apple's press conference as a source?! They are biased dumbass. They are making "studies" and videos slamming competition to make them look innocent. How can you possibly believe that those videos are true and not inaccurate or trying to pull wool over idiots' eyes like yours? They are doing a childish tactic to avoid admitting fault and paying for their design flaw. ]]>Jul 23rd 2010 7:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/23/apple-keeps-antennagate-alive-with-droid-xs-kill-switch-vide/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/23/apple-keeps-antennagate-alive-with-droid-xs-kill-switch-vide/Jul 23rd 2010 7:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/23/apple-keeps-antennagate-alive-with-droid-xs-kill-switch-vide/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/23/apple-keeps-antennagate-alive-with-droid-xs-kill-switch-vide/Jul 23rd 2010 7:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/23/apple-keeps-antennagate-alive-with-droid-xs-kill-switch-vide/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/23/apple-keeps-antennagate-alive-with-droid-xs-kill-switch-vide/Jul 23rd 2010 7:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/23/apple-keeps-antennagate-alive-with-droid-xs-kill-switch-vide/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/23/apple-keeps-antennagate-alive-with-droid-xs-kill-switch-vide/
I tried to replicate that grip on my droid x in my office.

Normal, I get a consistent 2 bars.

With the grip they showed, I get 3 bars. Thanks for the tip for better reception apple!]]>Jul 23rd 2010 7:59PM