http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/apple-cinema-display-goes-to-27-inches-16-9-aspect-ratio/ Engadget Comments for http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/apple-cinema-display-goes-to-27-inches-16-9-aspect-ratio/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/apple-cinema-display-goes-to-27-inches-16-9-aspect-ratio/Jul 27th 2010 8:40AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/apple-cinema-display-goes-to-27-inches-16-9-aspect-ratio/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/apple-cinema-display-goes-to-27-inches-16-9-aspect-ratio/16:10 was more useful for design work.
Sigh. ]]>Jul 27th 2010 8:45AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/apple-cinema-display-goes-to-27-inches-16-9-aspect-ratio/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/apple-cinema-display-goes-to-27-inches-16-9-aspect-ratio/Jul 27th 2010 8:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/apple-cinema-display-goes-to-27-inches-16-9-aspect-ratio/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/apple-cinema-display-goes-to-27-inches-16-9-aspect-ratio/Jul 27th 2010 8:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/apple-cinema-display-goes-to-27-inches-16-9-aspect-ratio/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/apple-cinema-display-goes-to-27-inches-16-9-aspect-ratio/Jul 27th 2010 8:48AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/apple-cinema-display-goes-to-27-inches-16-9-aspect-ratio/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/apple-cinema-display-goes-to-27-inches-16-9-aspect-ratio/
Still glossy displays :(]]>Jul 27th 2010 8:51AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/apple-cinema-display-goes-to-27-inches-16-9-aspect-ratio/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/apple-cinema-display-goes-to-27-inches-16-9-aspect-ratio/
I agree with SolidSnake. 16:10 is much better than 16:9. I love my 2408WFP 1920x1200 and would never switch to a 16:9 panel.

Even Dell's newest Ultrasharp U2410 has kept 16:10.

If I want 16:9 i'll get a TV and watch video on it like you are supposed to. If I get a computer monitor I want 16:10 so I can see more of a document when viewing 2 or 4 of them at a time.]]>Jul 27th 2010 8:51AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/apple-cinema-display-goes-to-27-inches-16-9-aspect-ratio/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/apple-cinema-display-goes-to-27-inches-16-9-aspect-ratio/
In all fairness, it is called a CINEMA display...]]>Jul 27th 2010 9:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/apple-cinema-display-goes-to-27-inches-16-9-aspect-ratio/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/apple-cinema-display-goes-to-27-inches-16-9-aspect-ratio/
In Singapore, Dell U2711 only costs USD$660 or SGD$899.
http://www1.ap.dell.com/content/products/category.aspx/monitors?c=sg&cs=sgbsd1&l=en&s=bsd&~tab=2

So, with more connectivity ports, better colour accuration by using CCFL displays, which is more worth? Duh, I'm going for Dell. It's cheaper here anyways. ]]>Jul 27th 2010 9:07AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/apple-cinema-display-goes-to-27-inches-16-9-aspect-ratio/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/apple-cinema-display-goes-to-27-inches-16-9-aspect-ratio/Jul 27th 2010 9:11AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/apple-cinema-display-goes-to-27-inches-16-9-aspect-ratio/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/apple-cinema-display-goes-to-27-inches-16-9-aspect-ratio/Jul 27th 2010 9:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/apple-cinema-display-goes-to-27-inches-16-9-aspect-ratio/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/apple-cinema-display-goes-to-27-inches-16-9-aspect-ratio/I have both the 30" & the 24" side by side, and the 24" looks so much better - I really wish the 30" was the same. I don't care if it is glass, it never causes an issue & is easier to clean.]]>Jul 27th 2010 9:55AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/apple-cinema-display-goes-to-27-inches-16-9-aspect-ratio/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/apple-cinema-display-goes-to-27-inches-16-9-aspect-ratio/
The Dell may be $100 more, but consider what additional features you get:

- A boatload of inputs (2x DVI, HDMI, DisplayPort, Composite, Component, VGA)
- The ability to adjust height
- The ability to rotate to portrait
- Calibration at the factory with an individual Delta E chart for your display (for whatever that's worth)
- A card reader
- An additional USB port

The only thing Apple's offering gets you over the Dell model is a webcam and a fruit logo. I say the extra $100 is well-spent.]]>Jul 27th 2010 10:28AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/apple-cinema-display-goes-to-27-inches-16-9-aspect-ratio/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/apple-cinema-display-goes-to-27-inches-16-9-aspect-ratio/Jul 27th 2010 10:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/apple-cinema-display-goes-to-27-inches-16-9-aspect-ratio/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/apple-cinema-display-goes-to-27-inches-16-9-aspect-ratio/
That's what i thought.

Upon first seeing this monitor, i thought "man you could dual screen with an imac and they'd be the same size and height" which would be sweet because dual screen setups with different height/size monitors annoys the crap out of me. But then i saw a side-by-side pic of the 27" display with a 27" imac, and the cinema display is lower. I was shocked apple would miss out on such a small detail.]]>Jul 27th 2010 10:46AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/apple-cinema-display-goes-to-27-inches-16-9-aspect-ratio/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/apple-cinema-display-goes-to-27-inches-16-9-aspect-ratio/
Try a webcam, _speakers_ (missing from Engadget description), and LED backlight.

And the lack of analog inputs is often beneficial to a monitor. Supporting them can negatively impact the performance of the panel (even on a digital connection). And no, that's not b.s.

Don't get me wrong—the Dell is still really good value. I'm working on a Dell Ultrasharp right now. But credit where credit is due.]]>Jul 27th 2010 11:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/apple-cinema-display-goes-to-27-inches-16-9-aspect-ratio/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/apple-cinema-display-goes-to-27-inches-16-9-aspect-ratio/Jul 27th 2010 11:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/apple-cinema-display-goes-to-27-inches-16-9-aspect-ratio/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/apple-cinema-display-goes-to-27-inches-16-9-aspect-ratio/
That's true I forgot about the speakers, although Dell has a Soundbar that can clip onto the bottom of most of its displays for like $30. It doesn't look as nice as an integrated set, but honestly I wouldn't want to use either option; dedicated speakers are much better unless all you want to hear are the OS sound effects.

As for analog inputs, I personally wouldn't think of using VGA or Composite on a display that size and resolution (maybe component in a pinch) because I agree they would look like hell, but saying they would damage the display in a way that would affect digital signals is just false.]]>Jul 27th 2010 11:46AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/apple-cinema-display-goes-to-27-inches-16-9-aspect-ratio/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/apple-cinema-display-goes-to-27-inches-16-9-aspect-ratio/Jul 27th 2010 12:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/apple-cinema-display-goes-to-27-inches-16-9-aspect-ratio/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/apple-cinema-display-goes-to-27-inches-16-9-aspect-ratio/
As a U2711 owner who has it plugged into my 27" Imac I will say that the DELL is a quality monitor even with out the LED. In fact I think it performs better and has better color depth then the Imac.

Those differences you listed are very minor especially for someone already with one monitor who has dedicated speakers. Even the LED backlight isn't worth the switch from all of the benefits you get with the U2711. And as the others have said your claim that analog will hurt the digital connection from like a displayport device is just false and ridiculous.

]]>Jul 27th 2010 12:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/apple-cinema-display-goes-to-27-inches-16-9-aspect-ratio/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/apple-cinema-display-goes-to-27-inches-16-9-aspect-ratio/
And 4x3 or 5x4 is even more useful for productivity. The wide-ranging adoption of 1080p screens have precluded me upgrading from my set of 1280x1024 screens as 56 more vertical pixels simply isn't worth it.

Apple's cinema displays are indeed good but I'm eagerly awaiting a Samsung or LG 2560x1440 TN panel without glossy glass front, USB hub, magsafe connectors or exotic display connectivity.

I'm may be a professional but I'm not a _graphics_ professional so I couldn't care less about color gamut and all this other crap, just give me a cheap, sleek, LED-lit 27" TN panel monitor and I'd be happy as a pig in mud.

/rant]]>Jul 27th 2010 1:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/apple-cinema-display-goes-to-27-inches-16-9-aspect-ratio/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/apple-cinema-display-goes-to-27-inches-16-9-aspect-ratio/Hate Apple much ?]]>Jul 27th 2010 1:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/apple-cinema-display-goes-to-27-inches-16-9-aspect-ratio/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/apple-cinema-display-goes-to-27-inches-16-9-aspect-ratio/What about the two apple stickers? Please tell me that it comes with Apple stickers.]]>Jul 27th 2010 1:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/apple-cinema-display-goes-to-27-inches-16-9-aspect-ratio/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/apple-cinema-display-goes-to-27-inches-16-9-aspect-ratio/
The Dell U2711 doesn't pivot to portrait. The U2410 does though...]]>Jul 27th 2010 2:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/apple-cinema-display-goes-to-27-inches-16-9-aspect-ratio/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/apple-cinema-display-goes-to-27-inches-16-9-aspect-ratio/
Um yeah it does. maybe it's because mine is on an ergotron mount but I can do landscape or portrait any time I want really easily. ]]>Jul 27th 2010 2:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/apple-cinema-display-goes-to-27-inches-16-9-aspect-ratio/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/apple-cinema-display-goes-to-27-inches-16-9-aspect-ratio/No kidding. Deal killer, as if 16:9 wasn't annoying enough to begin with.]]>Jul 27th 2010 2:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/apple-cinema-display-goes-to-27-inches-16-9-aspect-ratio/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/apple-cinema-display-goes-to-27-inches-16-9-aspect-ratio/A)design work, games (debatable), or surfing the web
B)watching movies
Personally, black bars don't bother me at all, and more pixels is always a better thing. The only time a 16:9 monitor is good is if its hi res enough to turn it 90 degrees. Then you use it as a secondary monitor-primarily for stuff like web browsing. Although it should be 1080p because then its just enough to not have to scroll sideways (on most websites anyways). Although thats more like 9:16.]]>Jul 27th 2010 2:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/apple-cinema-display-goes-to-27-inches-16-9-aspect-ratio/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/apple-cinema-display-goes-to-27-inches-16-9-aspect-ratio/Our US friends are getting screwed on the Dell U2711 - $999 in Australia or about $900 US (unless we are missing some unlisted spec)
http://configure.ap.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?c=au&l=en&s=dhs&cs=audhs1&kc=&oc=T14U2711WAU ]]>Jul 27th 2010 5:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/apple-cinema-display-goes-to-27-inches-16-9-aspect-ratio/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/apple-cinema-display-goes-to-27-inches-16-9-aspect-ratio/
As it turns out, Mr. Blurrycam is correct. The U2711 does NOT rotate to portrait with the included stand, although the U2410 does. Yes, an Ergotron stand would enable any flat panel with a VESA mount to rotate to portrait, but that's a separate (and awesome) accessory.]]>Jul 27th 2010 5:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/apple-cinema-display-goes-to-27-inches-16-9-aspect-ratio/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/apple-cinema-display-goes-to-27-inches-16-9-aspect-ratio/Jul 28th 2010 1:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/apple-cinema-display-goes-to-27-inches-16-9-aspect-ratio/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/apple-cinema-display-goes-to-27-inches-16-9-aspect-ratio/Jul 28th 2010 2:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/apple-cinema-display-goes-to-27-inches-16-9-aspect-ratio/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/apple-cinema-display-goes-to-27-inches-16-9-aspect-ratio/Jul 27th 2010 8:40AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/apple-cinema-display-goes-to-27-inches-16-9-aspect-ratio/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/apple-cinema-display-goes-to-27-inches-16-9-aspect-ratio/Agreed. A 27" HDTV goes for a bit of that, not to mention you get a full desktop computer with it. Plug in TV tuner and viola. Of course, I don't watch many movies, so 27" is plenty big for me, and is astronomical as a computer.]]>Jul 27th 2010 8:48AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/apple-cinema-display-goes-to-27-inches-16-9-aspect-ratio/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/apple-cinema-display-goes-to-27-inches-16-9-aspect-ratio/
Huh what the hell you are talking?
This is just a display, with no computer powered on.
If you are talking about plugging a TV tuner, don't you need a zillion dollar mac first to plug in. Just get a HDTV.]]>Jul 27th 2010 8:51AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/apple-cinema-display-goes-to-27-inches-16-9-aspect-ratio/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/apple-cinema-display-goes-to-27-inches-16-9-aspect-ratio/My bad, that I saw iMac somewhere. Still a competitive price for the display, just look at Dell's options.]]>Jul 27th 2010 8:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/apple-cinema-display-goes-to-27-inches-16-9-aspect-ratio/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/apple-cinema-display-goes-to-27-inches-16-9-aspect-ratio/
Um is it just me or is there no display in the apple store.... nor is there a 12 core mac pro...]]>Jul 27th 2010 9:12AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/apple-cinema-display-goes-to-27-inches-16-9-aspect-ratio/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/apple-cinema-display-goes-to-27-inches-16-9-aspect-ratio/Jul 27th 2010 9:12AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/apple-cinema-display-goes-to-27-inches-16-9-aspect-ratio/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/apple-cinema-display-goes-to-27-inches-16-9-aspect-ratio/
Yes it is.

"That might not sound like a steal, but Dell's similar U2711 (both offer IPS at the same resolution) actually retails for a hundie more at $1,099."]]>Jul 27th 2010 9:17AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/apple-cinema-display-goes-to-27-inches-16-9-aspect-ratio/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/apple-cinema-display-goes-to-27-inches-16-9-aspect-ratio/Still 200 bucks more than the 24 inch, which is history since today. So if you want a pretty display for your powerbook, you need 200$ more than before. You get more, but you pay more too. Very strange there is no other option. A 500$ 21.5 inch CD would be very welcome, since 27 inch is too big for many anyway.]]>Jul 27th 2010 9:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/apple-cinema-display-goes-to-27-inches-16-9-aspect-ratio/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/apple-cinema-display-goes-to-27-inches-16-9-aspect-ratio/There are SOOOO many options for the 23-24" display range that not having that choice from apple is no big deal if you ask me (I still see the 24" display in the Apple store by the way). The market hasn't yet caught up to the 27" display size though, which makes this a welcome addition.]]>Jul 27th 2010 9:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/apple-cinema-display-goes-to-27-inches-16-9-aspect-ratio/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/apple-cinema-display-goes-to-27-inches-16-9-aspect-ratio/Jul 27th 2010 8:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/apple-cinema-display-goes-to-27-inches-16-9-aspect-ratio/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/apple-cinema-display-goes-to-27-inches-16-9-aspect-ratio/ALL ips displays are expensive ]]>Jul 27th 2010 8:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/apple-cinema-display-goes-to-27-inches-16-9-aspect-ratio/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/apple-cinema-display-goes-to-27-inches-16-9-aspect-ratio/Jul 27th 2010 8:44AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/apple-cinema-display-goes-to-27-inches-16-9-aspect-ratio/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/apple-cinema-display-goes-to-27-inches-16-9-aspect-ratio/Jul 27th 2010 8:46AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/apple-cinema-display-goes-to-27-inches-16-9-aspect-ratio/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/apple-cinema-display-goes-to-27-inches-16-9-aspect-ratio/Jul 27th 2010 8:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/apple-cinema-display-goes-to-27-inches-16-9-aspect-ratio/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/apple-cinema-display-goes-to-27-inches-16-9-aspect-ratio/
You'll find there's only ONE monitor out there that actually matches it spec-wise (resolution / screen size / inputs, etc) and thats one made by Dell which sells for over $1k.]]>Jul 27th 2010 8:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/apple-cinema-display-goes-to-27-inches-16-9-aspect-ratio/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/apple-cinema-display-goes-to-27-inches-16-9-aspect-ratio/
If you consider that the only other displays with close to this resolution are 30" displays that cost quite a bit more then this isn't that bad. Though then again you can often get 30" displays at this price with higher resolution so...

But it says Apple!]]>Jul 27th 2010 8:48AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/apple-cinema-display-goes-to-27-inches-16-9-aspect-ratio/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/apple-cinema-display-goes-to-27-inches-16-9-aspect-ratio/Jul 27th 2010 8:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/apple-cinema-display-goes-to-27-inches-16-9-aspect-ratio/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/apple-cinema-display-goes-to-27-inches-16-9-aspect-ratio/Because of the unicorn blood and tears of elves.
Seriously though I just can't justify their pricing scheme.]]>Jul 27th 2010 8:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/apple-cinema-display-goes-to-27-inches-16-9-aspect-ratio/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/apple-cinema-display-goes-to-27-inches-16-9-aspect-ratio/actually all those things you listed can be had in a $500 display
the only thing that makes this thing expensive is the ips panel since all
ips panels are costly]]>Jul 27th 2010 8:50AM