http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/chevy-volt-officially-priced-at-41-000-350-month-on-a-three-y/ Engadget Comments for http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/chevy-volt-officially-priced-at-41-000-350-month-on-a-three-y/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/chevy-volt-officially-priced-at-41-000-350-month-on-a-three-y/Jul 27th 2010 1:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/chevy-volt-officially-priced-at-41-000-350-month-on-a-three-y/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/chevy-volt-officially-priced-at-41-000-350-month-on-a-three-y/I like your thinking. Which dealer were you gonna hit?]]>Jul 27th 2010 1:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/chevy-volt-officially-priced-at-41-000-350-month-on-a-three-y/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/chevy-volt-officially-priced-at-41-000-350-month-on-a-three-y/I'm with ya. I can't afford to save the environment. Guess I'll just have to keep driving my truck. :/]]>Jul 27th 2010 1:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/chevy-volt-officially-priced-at-41-000-350-month-on-a-three-y/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/chevy-volt-officially-priced-at-41-000-350-month-on-a-three-y/
Thank you for your most useful comment.

I would also like a F458, but don't have $250,000 to spend. ]]>Jul 27th 2010 1:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/chevy-volt-officially-priced-at-41-000-350-month-on-a-three-y/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/chevy-volt-officially-priced-at-41-000-350-month-on-a-three-y/
That's the greenest thing you can do. Making new cars is energy intensive.]]>Jul 27th 2010 1:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/chevy-volt-officially-priced-at-41-000-350-month-on-a-three-y/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/chevy-volt-officially-priced-at-41-000-350-month-on-a-three-y/These prices are too high! Why is the government not encouraging people to buy these cars with a way bigger incentive. Your "average Joe" can still not afford a $35,000 car!

I just don't get it! We have a great opportunity to get gas guzzling vehicles off the roads but unless it's affordable, it won't happen!

Come on Obabma, use your power and do something about this.]]>Jul 27th 2010 1:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/chevy-volt-officially-priced-at-41-000-350-month-on-a-three-y/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/chevy-volt-officially-priced-at-41-000-350-month-on-a-three-y/
So tell me, do you believe government subsidies are the proper way to bring down prices?

And what "power" do you believe Obama has?

Please let us know - we're all dying to hear your answer.]]>Jul 27th 2010 1:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/chevy-volt-officially-priced-at-41-000-350-month-on-a-three-y/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/chevy-volt-officially-priced-at-41-000-350-month-on-a-three-y/
I'm sure there's some fine print that says GM can do whatever the hell they want at the end of your lease despite what they say now. The EV1 was supposed to be the same way, until they demanded that all people leasing an EV1 will have to return it, even if they wanted to continue to lease it. They then destroyed the EV1s and crushed them into little cubes. Battery technology patents that existed 15 years ago was then sold to Chevron to keep the oil-train going.

FU GM, FU.]]>Jul 27th 2010 1:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/chevy-volt-officially-priced-at-41-000-350-month-on-a-three-y/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/chevy-volt-officially-priced-at-41-000-350-month-on-a-three-y/
You do realize these "government incentives" come from the taxpayers anyway, right? They just make it so a lot of people are chipping in so a few people can get a better deal on their car. They are by no means "fair" or "free money".]]>Jul 27th 2010 1:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/chevy-volt-officially-priced-at-41-000-350-month-on-a-three-y/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/chevy-volt-officially-priced-at-41-000-350-month-on-a-three-y/
Actually, the greenest thing you can do is have a vasectomy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Poulation-since-1000AD.jpg]]>Jul 27th 2010 1:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/chevy-volt-officially-priced-at-41-000-350-month-on-a-three-y/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/chevy-volt-officially-priced-at-41-000-350-month-on-a-three-y/
Such truths never see the light of day.]]>Jul 27th 2010 1:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/chevy-volt-officially-priced-at-41-000-350-month-on-a-three-y/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/chevy-volt-officially-priced-at-41-000-350-month-on-a-three-y/
Ok, maybe it's just me, but if we look at this realistically.

1. $35,000 isn't expensive, sure it's more than a normal car, but it's also 10-20 grand cheaper than the gas guzzlers you talk about.

2. Not everyone is going to buy this car/concept, If you live or commute to a city its a logical decision to think about buying it, but if you do country driving or interstate driving all the time you don't get the battery advantage you paid money for.

3. Obama is the president of the United States. Not the Congress of the United States as such he can only push for something, not make more rebates as he pleases. That falls under the the duty of Congress.]]>Jul 27th 2010 1:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/chevy-volt-officially-priced-at-41-000-350-month-on-a-three-y/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/chevy-volt-officially-priced-at-41-000-350-month-on-a-three-y/
Agree 100%. Most environmental and social issues are simple due to overpopulation.

If you want this explained in a funny, entertaining way, rent the movie Idiocracy
]]>Jul 27th 2010 1:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/chevy-volt-officially-priced-at-41-000-350-month-on-a-three-y/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/chevy-volt-officially-priced-at-41-000-350-month-on-a-three-y/thank you for your even more useful comment.
you're missing the point. i think what he meant by that is if they're going to put out vehicles like this to help the environment, why price them so high to where the average joe can't afford to help the environment. i'm sure a lot of people, myself included, are thinking "man, i really want to stop this oil dependency, save money, and help the environment" but a high price tag makes those things pretty unattainable. ]]>Jul 27th 2010 1:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/chevy-volt-officially-priced-at-41-000-350-month-on-a-three-y/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/chevy-volt-officially-priced-at-41-000-350-month-on-a-three-y/maybe that's because *gasp* that's what the car costs to make!?!?

Just a shot in the dark though...]]>Jul 27th 2010 1:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/chevy-volt-officially-priced-at-41-000-350-month-on-a-three-y/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/chevy-volt-officially-priced-at-41-000-350-month-on-a-three-y/Jul 27th 2010 1:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/chevy-volt-officially-priced-at-41-000-350-month-on-a-three-y/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/chevy-volt-officially-priced-at-41-000-350-month-on-a-three-y/Jul 27th 2010 1:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/chevy-volt-officially-priced-at-41-000-350-month-on-a-three-y/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/chevy-volt-officially-priced-at-41-000-350-month-on-a-three-y/Jul 27th 2010 1:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/chevy-volt-officially-priced-at-41-000-350-month-on-a-three-y/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/chevy-volt-officially-priced-at-41-000-350-month-on-a-three-y/
In typical GM fashion, if the base is $41,000, the AS SHOWN price will be closer to $54,000. For that, I'd rather go with a BMW 3 series turbo diesel.]]>Jul 27th 2010 1:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/chevy-volt-officially-priced-at-41-000-350-month-on-a-three-y/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/chevy-volt-officially-priced-at-41-000-350-month-on-a-three-y/that's obvious, and i'm not arguing that fact. having said that, i don't think the price of producing one of these things is anywhere near $40k.]]>Jul 27th 2010 1:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/chevy-volt-officially-priced-at-41-000-350-month-on-a-three-y/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/chevy-volt-officially-priced-at-41-000-350-month-on-a-three-y/Jul 27th 2010 1:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/chevy-volt-officially-priced-at-41-000-350-month-on-a-three-y/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/chevy-volt-officially-priced-at-41-000-350-month-on-a-three-y/
"Anyone who's paid close attention to the environment knows that the greenest thing you can do is to reuse your plastic bags to suffocate your children." - Frankie Boyle]]>Jul 27th 2010 2:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/chevy-volt-officially-priced-at-41-000-350-month-on-a-three-y/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/chevy-volt-officially-priced-at-41-000-350-month-on-a-three-y/just so you know its 30-40 grand because its cost more to make not because Obama wants it like that. just look at hybrids there around 5-10 grand more then the standard. the best electric car (and that dose not have any gas engine at all with 250 mile range) is the Tesla roster and the Tesla sedan (dont know the name), but there around 80-150 grand.]]>Jul 27th 2010 2:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/chevy-volt-officially-priced-at-41-000-350-month-on-a-three-y/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/chevy-volt-officially-priced-at-41-000-350-month-on-a-three-y/Jul 27th 2010 2:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/chevy-volt-officially-priced-at-41-000-350-month-on-a-three-y/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/chevy-volt-officially-priced-at-41-000-350-month-on-a-three-y/
Actually, it costs more than $40k to make this car. GM is selling the car at a loss to get the technology out there. Same strategy Toyota used with the first generation Prius. Look it up if you don't believe me.]]>Jul 27th 2010 4:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/chevy-volt-officially-priced-at-41-000-350-month-on-a-three-y/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/chevy-volt-officially-priced-at-41-000-350-month-on-a-three-y/
Example: Oil dependency has a LOT of costs that are not directly paid by the consumer.

1) My brother-in-law and soon my sister are in large part likely fighting in the middle-east due to our national security and way of life depending on oil. There is a cost in lives and directly financial to fund securing such vital resources as well.

2) There are occasional ecological disasters caused by the transport and manufacture of gasoline and diesel. These have many costs that society as a whole has to front. Per government statistics, approximately 17 million gallons of gasoline are spilled by people just filling their lawn maintenance equipment alone.

And we all know there are more.

So when you are subsidizing electric vehicles, you are simply returning part of the money that individual would be paying to contribute to the costs of oil not directly paid by everyone at the pump.]]>Jul 27th 2010 6:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/chevy-volt-officially-priced-at-41-000-350-month-on-a-three-y/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/chevy-volt-officially-priced-at-41-000-350-month-on-a-three-y/Jul 27th 2010 6:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/chevy-volt-officially-priced-at-41-000-350-month-on-a-three-y/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/chevy-volt-officially-priced-at-41-000-350-month-on-a-three-y/Jul 27th 2010 8:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/chevy-volt-officially-priced-at-41-000-350-month-on-a-three-y/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/chevy-volt-officially-priced-at-41-000-350-month-on-a-three-y/
The oil companies are all transitioning into energy companies.

Thats a good thing. Chevron cannot control the price of crude, only OPEC can do that (they have around 80% of the world's reserves), and alternative energy sources allow the companies to get tax write offs and helps their future prospects for profitability and security should there be any political oil crisis.

And good for us, as they will happily sell alternative forms of energy. Its all income to them. ]]>Jul 27th 2010 9:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/chevy-volt-officially-priced-at-41-000-350-month-on-a-three-y/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/chevy-volt-officially-priced-at-41-000-350-month-on-a-three-y/I tried looking it up on youtube but all I keep getting is clips of BP saving the Gulf of Mexico from an oil spill... ]]>Jul 28th 2010 1:42AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/chevy-volt-officially-priced-at-41-000-350-month-on-a-three-y/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/chevy-volt-officially-priced-at-41-000-350-month-on-a-three-y/What ever happened to saving up money to buy a car. I started when I was 16 and 4 years latter I had enough to buy a brand new Nissan Altima. ]]>Jul 28th 2010 2:02AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/chevy-volt-officially-priced-at-41-000-350-month-on-a-three-y/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/chevy-volt-officially-priced-at-41-000-350-month-on-a-three-y/Jul 28th 2010 1:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/chevy-volt-officially-priced-at-41-000-350-month-on-a-three-y/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/chevy-volt-officially-priced-at-41-000-350-month-on-a-three-y/Jul 28th 2010 7:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/chevy-volt-officially-priced-at-41-000-350-month-on-a-three-y/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/chevy-volt-officially-priced-at-41-000-350-month-on-a-three-y/Jul 27th 2010 1:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/chevy-volt-officially-priced-at-41-000-350-month-on-a-three-y/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/chevy-volt-officially-priced-at-41-000-350-month-on-a-three-y/Warp speed.]]>Jul 27th 2010 1:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/chevy-volt-officially-priced-at-41-000-350-month-on-a-three-y/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/chevy-volt-officially-priced-at-41-000-350-month-on-a-three-y/ has to be less than 25 if it has a 10gallon tank or greater
also 40 miles on electricity is pathetic ]]>Jul 27th 2010 1:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/chevy-volt-officially-priced-at-41-000-350-month-on-a-three-y/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/chevy-volt-officially-priced-at-41-000-350-month-on-a-three-y/
Depends. If you always travel less than 40 miles between charges, then you'll barely use any gas at all. If you travel further, you will kick the range extender on and use some more gas... and so on. ]]>Jul 27th 2010 1:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/chevy-volt-officially-priced-at-41-000-350-month-on-a-three-y/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/chevy-volt-officially-priced-at-41-000-350-month-on-a-three-y/
If it is so pathetic, can you tell me a reasonable electric-only range and tell us what car, currently produced at this price point and with as much total range, can beat it? ]]>Jul 27th 2010 1:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/chevy-volt-officially-priced-at-41-000-350-month-on-a-three-y/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/chevy-volt-officially-priced-at-41-000-350-month-on-a-three-y/http://www.codaautomotive.com
Roughly 100 mi. range, and rumored pricing is very similar to the Volt.
Or you could get the real winner (IMHO) in this electric automotive arms race, a Tesla, the S Series makes this look like a child's toy.]]>Jul 27th 2010 1:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/chevy-volt-officially-priced-at-41-000-350-month-on-a-three-y/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/chevy-volt-officially-priced-at-41-000-350-month-on-a-three-y/Jul 27th 2010 3:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/chevy-volt-officially-priced-at-41-000-350-month-on-a-three-y/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/chevy-volt-officially-priced-at-41-000-350-month-on-a-three-y/
If I recall what I read on GMs website about the mileage, the gas engine will extend the range to ~400 miles on a ~ 8 gallon tank. So you're looking at about ~ 50 MPG rating once the extender kicks in]]>Jul 27th 2010 3:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/chevy-volt-officially-priced-at-41-000-350-month-on-a-three-y/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/chevy-volt-officially-priced-at-41-000-350-month-on-a-three-y/
That's a more useful measure.

You can use electricity during the week... but you can also use it for longer trips on the weekend too.

You can't do that with the all-electric Nissan Leaf.

Sure, the Nissan Leaf is $10,000 cheaper than the Chevy Volt... but it's *only* for short trips. I wouldn't want my car to tell me where I can't go.

But, the Leaf will be perfect for some people... especially when charging stations become popular.]]>Jul 27th 2010 4:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/chevy-volt-officially-priced-at-41-000-350-month-on-a-three-y/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/chevy-volt-officially-priced-at-41-000-350-month-on-a-three-y/
We all know that surely over 95% of all trips are under 100 miles, likely near 99% (guessing).

For the few trips that are longer, EV range extenders can be attached to the vehicle or towed to provide unlimited range w/ gas-stops, but without the need to carry around all that fuel and metal ICE for the majority of the time:
http://www.evprogress.org/rav_longranger01.jpg]]>Jul 27th 2010 6:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/chevy-volt-officially-priced-at-41-000-350-month-on-a-three-y/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/chevy-volt-officially-priced-at-41-000-350-month-on-a-three-y/
The concept is rational, but that will NEVER catch on for a multitude of reasons. Yes, the majority of trips are under 100 miles, but the Volt is a much better investment over the Leaf for instance, because it'll get you further for those times when you need to go the distance. Sticking on an external ICE defeats the very purpose of taking it out; consumers would do much better to have the best of both worlds and get something like the Volt.]]>Jul 27th 2010 7:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/chevy-volt-officially-priced-at-41-000-350-month-on-a-three-y/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/chevy-volt-officially-priced-at-41-000-350-month-on-a-three-y/
The entire purpose of removing the combustion engine is not to have to use gasoline/diesel, and have an efficient cheap to operate vehicle.

Not having to carry around the weight of a big steel and aluminum generator and however many gallons of fuel when almost all of the time you will not need it is a GOOD thing, as it further improves electric only range. It also robs less interior space than constantly carrying around the ICE and gas tank inside the chassis.

Hardly defeats the purpose. ]]>Jul 27th 2010 9:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/chevy-volt-officially-priced-at-41-000-350-month-on-a-three-y/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/chevy-volt-officially-priced-at-41-000-350-month-on-a-three-y/
And don't get me wrong, when I leave the house in the morning, I don't always know how far my trip will be.

But the amount of times that I drive more than 100 miles on a moment's notice are EXTREMELY rare, to where the inconvenience of having to swing by the house first is a non-issue. ]]>Jul 27th 2010 9:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/chevy-volt-officially-priced-at-41-000-350-month-on-a-three-y/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/chevy-volt-officially-priced-at-41-000-350-month-on-a-three-y/
And one last note, on the Volt they have to compromise with fuel tank capacity for size and weight concerns on the vehicle.

I believe its a 8 or 9 gallon tank.

With a EV range extender trailer though, you don't have to compromise on fuel tank size. You know you are ONLY using it when you really need to go on a very long trip, and you're not using up any interior room to do so. So you could easily house a nice 50 gallon fuel tank like on a Dodge Ram. ]]>Jul 27th 2010 9:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/chevy-volt-officially-priced-at-41-000-350-month-on-a-three-y/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/chevy-volt-officially-priced-at-41-000-350-month-on-a-three-y/
That's true. 100 miles sounds like a lot... But remember, that's 50 miles out and 50 miles back. It should be enough for going to work though.

But my point is... you pay $25,000 for a car that you can't use for all of your travels. And at about the 95 mile mark I'd be freaking out!

If you have a family, the dad can drive the Nissan Leaf to work, and the wife can keep the SUV. Then you'd take all your trips in the SUV on the weekends.

But the Leaf is not a car to be used for everything. If you buy one, you probably have a 2nd or 3rd car already.

You're a motorcycle guy... so you know all about having a vehicle that you can't drive all the time.

And that's gonna be the biggest problem with the all-electric vehicle. At least until we have nationwide mass-transit]]>Jul 27th 2010 10:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/chevy-volt-officially-priced-at-41-000-350-month-on-a-three-y/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/chevy-volt-officially-priced-at-41-000-350-month-on-a-three-y/
Oh trust me, I considered all that, and like I mentioned it is a rational idea. That said though it's still something that will never catch on.

For you, driving 100 miles may be a rarity, but for many others (myself included) it is not. Then there's the facts that some people will not want to risk being unavailable because their car cannot go the distance, and that people won't want to be bothered with the extra expense of buying an external engine for their engine-less car. It's much simpler and more elegant to get everything wrapped up into one nice package. Until the price and capability of all electric vehicles come within a general consumer's reach, this arrangement will be what the people want.]]>Jul 27th 2010 11:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/chevy-volt-officially-priced-at-41-000-350-month-on-a-three-y/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/27/chevy-volt-officially-priced-at-41-000-350-month-on-a-three-y/]]>Jul 28th 2010 12:56AM