http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/lg-aiming-to-ship-a-couple-of-windows-phone-7-devices-by-year/ Engadget Comments for http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/lg-aiming-to-ship-a-couple-of-windows-phone-7-devices-by-year/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/lg-aiming-to-ship-a-couple-of-windows-phone-7-devices-by-year/Jul 28th 2010 12:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/lg-aiming-to-ship-a-couple-of-windows-phone-7-devices-by-year/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/lg-aiming-to-ship-a-couple-of-windows-phone-7-devices-by-year/Jul 28th 2010 12:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/lg-aiming-to-ship-a-couple-of-windows-phone-7-devices-by-year/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/lg-aiming-to-ship-a-couple-of-windows-phone-7-devices-by-year/Jul 28th 2010 12:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/lg-aiming-to-ship-a-couple-of-windows-phone-7-devices-by-year/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/lg-aiming-to-ship-a-couple-of-windows-phone-7-devices-by-year/
Windows Phone offers nothing compelling. No copy & paste, no multi-tasking. It shows that Microsoft as a compoany doesn't get it .. they basically thought that they need to mimic iPhone OS's features and lack thereof .. I guess when they started designing Windows Phone it was 2007 or 8 so they ended up with an OS equivalent to where iPhone OS was 2 ago.

Add that stuff to the fact that the pixels per inch are gonna suck in comparison to the iPhone .. and you gotta wonder .. what's so compelling about Windows Phone other than it's "not Apple."]]>Jul 28th 2010 12:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/lg-aiming-to-ship-a-couple-of-windows-phone-7-devices-by-year/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/lg-aiming-to-ship-a-couple-of-windows-phone-7-devices-by-year/
Everyone says its probably to late for MS to get into the game but thats the same thing they said about the Xbox. Now look at it.

I think this has a lot of potential and I'm excited to see something new like this come to the marketplace.]]>Jul 28th 2010 12:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/lg-aiming-to-ship-a-couple-of-windows-phone-7-devices-by-year/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/lg-aiming-to-ship-a-couple-of-windows-phone-7-devices-by-year/
Do you hear yourself talking?

So everything has to "outspec" the iPhone to be successful? Last time I checked the iPhone was missing many features when it launched and that didn't stop it from being a success.

" they basically thought that they need to mimic iPhone OS's features and lack thereof .. I guess when they started designing Windows Phone it was 2007 or 8 so they ended up with an OS equivalent to where iPhone OS was 2 ago."

Mind showing evidence where they were mimicking iOS during building their product.

".. and you gotta wonder .. what's so compelling about Windows Phone other than it's "not Apple."

Yeah thats good reasoning, people get other products because their "not Apple". Wow with logic like that, the fact that people buy Android, WM, Web OS or RIM must be because they "hate" Apple right? ]]>Jul 28th 2010 12:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/lg-aiming-to-ship-a-couple-of-windows-phone-7-devices-by-year/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/lg-aiming-to-ship-a-couple-of-windows-phone-7-devices-by-year/Jul 28th 2010 12:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/lg-aiming-to-ship-a-couple-of-windows-phone-7-devices-by-year/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/lg-aiming-to-ship-a-couple-of-windows-phone-7-devices-by-year/Looking more forward to WebOS 2.0 and android 3.0.. Have a feeling those will leave win7 and iOS in an antiquated past.]]>Jul 28th 2010 12:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/lg-aiming-to-ship-a-couple-of-windows-phone-7-devices-by-year/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/lg-aiming-to-ship-a-couple-of-windows-phone-7-devices-by-year/Jul 28th 2010 12:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/lg-aiming-to-ship-a-couple-of-windows-phone-7-devices-by-year/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/lg-aiming-to-ship-a-couple-of-windows-phone-7-devices-by-year/Didn't read this on Engadget, but last week LG said one of their WP7 phones would be called the Optimus 7.

Qualcomm Snapdragon (1 GHz), 4-inch (800 x 480), hsdpa, wifi, bluetooth and gps. 5-megapixel camera and fm-radio. 158 gram, no physical keyboard..
]]>Jul 28th 2010 12:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/lg-aiming-to-ship-a-couple-of-windows-phone-7-devices-by-year/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/lg-aiming-to-ship-a-couple-of-windows-phone-7-devices-by-year/No one is gonna listen to you if you only say there's no copy/paste or multitasking. Try going to Paul Thurrott's Supersite for Windows and he writes about more legitimate things that are missing from Windows Phone 7, things that people actually find more useful than copy/paste and multitasking.

And, many people would consider him a Microsoft fan. I'm an MS fan and will never buy a fruit product but I would never trash it over little things.]]>Jul 28th 2010 12:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/lg-aiming-to-ship-a-couple-of-windows-phone-7-devices-by-year/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/lg-aiming-to-ship-a-couple-of-windows-phone-7-devices-by-year/
A robust office suite? There are office suites on Android and the iPhone already .. Microsoft hasn't shown any compelling office UI on the phone yet. In fact Apple's seems better.

Zune Pass??? There are already loads of music streaming solutions for the iPhone.

Xbox Live integration .. Oh pleease .. the iPhone has a vast games library. Is this really a compelling feature? Pretty lame.

WP7 devices offer a resolution that is on its way to obsolescence and their multi-tasking method sucks. It makes GPS unweildy. There is nothing compelling in Windows Phone. No wow factor, don't expect a lot of people to be lining up to get it on day one like they did for the iPhone.]]>Jul 28th 2010 12:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/lg-aiming-to-ship-a-couple-of-windows-phone-7-devices-by-year/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/lg-aiming-to-ship-a-couple-of-windows-phone-7-devices-by-year/
And yes there is competition among Zune and their pass, but once again, integration.

Xbox LIVE, if you don't think this will be a big deal, then that's good for you, but LIVE will be. Where's the synchronization or cloud-compatibility with those iPhone games? Will they be wide-spread integral like Xbox LIVE? Things like gamer score, achievements, friends, links etc. Is this present in every game, or just the ones in their upcoming Game Center?]]>Jul 28th 2010 1:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/lg-aiming-to-ship-a-couple-of-windows-phone-7-devices-by-year/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/lg-aiming-to-ship-a-couple-of-windows-phone-7-devices-by-year/Jul 28th 2010 1:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/lg-aiming-to-ship-a-couple-of-windows-phone-7-devices-by-year/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/lg-aiming-to-ship-a-couple-of-windows-phone-7-devices-by-year/
http://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-07-28/lg-posts-record-handset-loss-on-iphone-smartphones.html

Please don't kill the messenger!]]>Jul 28th 2010 1:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/lg-aiming-to-ship-a-couple-of-windows-phone-7-devices-by-year/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/lg-aiming-to-ship-a-couple-of-windows-phone-7-devices-by-year/At least let me tell you why I will still buy a Windows Phone 7. (1) Future updates will allow you to play a game on the phone, pause the game, and finish your game on the Xbox 360 on your TV. I've already seen a video of it happening. Although, it won't be there at launch but I could still play it on the phone. (2) This is in addition to #1 but Microsoft has experience with gaming and they've even started a Mobile Gaming Studio just for this phone. I've already seen demos of games on the phone that are of high quality. (3) Zune is already integrated to the phone, I already have a Zune Pass, and I already own a lot songs that I get to keep every month because of it. Streaming may be available on iPhone but it's not from Apple and I can't really find myself streaming from someone I don't trust. (4) I dislike the idea of opening one app, closing it, opening another, closing that app and opening one more just to view my photos from different services. For me, it's Facebook, Flickr and some photos I have on SkyDrive. They all appear in one place and can be commented on right there. (5) You may not but I sure as hell do...I love the interface of the Metro experience all throughout. These are just the main reasons why I'm still buying it.

Can your fruit phone bring gaming to the TV? View photos in one place? and comment on them and have those comments show up on the social site they're on? I mean, of course they can't. But, not all phones are the same buddy. People are gonna choose what best suits them.]]>Jul 28th 2010 1:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/lg-aiming-to-ship-a-couple-of-windows-phone-7-devices-by-year/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/lg-aiming-to-ship-a-couple-of-windows-phone-7-devices-by-year/Jul 28th 2010 1:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/lg-aiming-to-ship-a-couple-of-windows-phone-7-devices-by-year/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/lg-aiming-to-ship-a-couple-of-windows-phone-7-devices-by-year/Maybe that's why they didn't mind supplying Microsoft with prototype devices so they can test and get ready to support Windows Phone 7 a lot.

Even Silicon Alley Insider has decided not to bash Microsoft anymore because they realize MS, within the last ten years, have grown "8" separate billion dollar businesses which now make it 11 different products and services which now make over a billion dollars.

http://www.businessinsider.com/microsoft-doing-well-2010-7]]>Jul 28th 2010 2:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/lg-aiming-to-ship-a-couple-of-windows-phone-7-devices-by-year/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/lg-aiming-to-ship-a-couple-of-windows-phone-7-devices-by-year/
IMHO: Zune + Xbox > Eventual Copy/Paste. And I don't care all too much about true multitasking on a phone. It's not like at home where I have a 23inch computer and can aerosnap left and right. And it'll come eventually anyway, most likely.]]>Jul 28th 2010 2:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/lg-aiming-to-ship-a-couple-of-windows-phone-7-devices-by-year/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/lg-aiming-to-ship-a-couple-of-windows-phone-7-devices-by-year/Jul 28th 2010 2:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/lg-aiming-to-ship-a-couple-of-windows-phone-7-devices-by-year/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/lg-aiming-to-ship-a-couple-of-windows-phone-7-devices-by-year/Jul 28th 2010 3:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/lg-aiming-to-ship-a-couple-of-windows-phone-7-devices-by-year/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/lg-aiming-to-ship-a-couple-of-windows-phone-7-devices-by-year/AND I totally agree with you. I read my comment to you and I guess I did not get thru what I was trying to say. What I wanted get thru to you was LG is losing points, you proved that, but that is probably why they are looking for new ways for themselves to gain shares back. How do they find the most likely way to grow and succeed? Well, they go with someone who will most likely help them succeed?

LG can't just make screens for Apple, they need other stuff too for themselves to grow. They're going with Microsoft because they feel secure enough to know that MSFT will succeed also. Apple and Microsoft can both prosper, LG wants to feel the love too :)

On a side not though I have to say Microsoft has a lot of room to grow, maybe not with their OS, but with Xbox and soon their Windows Phones. Also, even though their OS business can't grow per se, they can still resell better versions every couple of years and still be highly profitable. Windows 7 proves that. Don't trip...I'm not killing the messenger.]]>Jul 28th 2010 4:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/lg-aiming-to-ship-a-couple-of-windows-phone-7-devices-by-year/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/lg-aiming-to-ship-a-couple-of-windows-phone-7-devices-by-year/
I love how you glossed over the most important word when talking Office. OneNote 2010 on WP7 alone makes the NATIVE suite well worth it... what you need to understand is that MS's native apps and services are TIGHTLY INTEGRATED into the UI.

Zune/Pass: Yes, you can get plenty of music streaming services on iPhone, but do they also allow you to to keep 10 songs a month? Can I then take those same streams to my home gaming console? Does that services integrate with my Xbox Live friends list as well as appear in my social feeds on the phone? If I tag a song on the FM radio, will it automatically add it to my streaming list and allow me to buy it with a free credit?

Xbox Live: Yes, iPhone does have a lot of "games" on their phones and Apple will be rolling out Game Center this fall that already copies from the foundation MS layed (Achievements, Avatars, friends list)... but make no mistake, without great first party game studios (which Apple has none), popular exclusive IPs (which Apple has none) and a popular home gaming console (which Apple has none), it wont come close to touching Xbox Live on WP7. Wheres Halo, Gears of War, Fable, Forza, Live Arcade etc... thats right, their all exclusive to WP7. You can keep that tons of "fart apps" that plague iPhone... I will be cross-platforming with Xbox 360 players and unlocking achievements that add to my current Gamerscore. ]]>Jul 28th 2010 5:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/lg-aiming-to-ship-a-couple-of-windows-phone-7-devices-by-year/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/lg-aiming-to-ship-a-couple-of-windows-phone-7-devices-by-year/
Slightly distasteful, but I still plan on getting one. Hopefully it's as easy to change my location as it is iTunes store.]]>Jul 28th 2010 12:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/lg-aiming-to-ship-a-couple-of-windows-phone-7-devices-by-year/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/lg-aiming-to-ship-a-couple-of-windows-phone-7-devices-by-year/-Thomas Ricker ]]>Jul 28th 2010 12:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/lg-aiming-to-ship-a-couple-of-windows-phone-7-devices-by-year/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/lg-aiming-to-ship-a-couple-of-windows-phone-7-devices-by-year/Jul 28th 2010 12:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/lg-aiming-to-ship-a-couple-of-windows-phone-7-devices-by-year/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/lg-aiming-to-ship-a-couple-of-windows-phone-7-devices-by-year/Thanks Engadget for letting better bloggers handle LG.

@Sultansulan
Way to give the device/platform a chance. Classy. ]]>Jul 28th 2010 12:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/lg-aiming-to-ship-a-couple-of-windows-phone-7-devices-by-year/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/lg-aiming-to-ship-a-couple-of-windows-phone-7-devices-by-year/Aug 2nd 2010 11:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/lg-aiming-to-ship-a-couple-of-windows-phone-7-devices-by-year/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/lg-aiming-to-ship-a-couple-of-windows-phone-7-devices-by-year/Jul 28th 2010 12:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/lg-aiming-to-ship-a-couple-of-windows-phone-7-devices-by-year/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/lg-aiming-to-ship-a-couple-of-windows-phone-7-devices-by-year/
This brings up a good point. What does WP7 look like in landscape mode? ]]>Jul 28th 2010 12:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/lg-aiming-to-ship-a-couple-of-windows-phone-7-devices-by-year/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/lg-aiming-to-ship-a-couple-of-windows-phone-7-devices-by-year/Jul 28th 2010 3:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/lg-aiming-to-ship-a-couple-of-windows-phone-7-devices-by-year/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/lg-aiming-to-ship-a-couple-of-windows-phone-7-devices-by-year/Jul 28th 2010 12:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/lg-aiming-to-ship-a-couple-of-windows-phone-7-devices-by-year/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/lg-aiming-to-ship-a-couple-of-windows-phone-7-devices-by-year/
With HTC violating the OS with it's Sense crapware (WP7 has no need for it) they have a pretty good chance.]]>Jul 28th 2010 12:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/lg-aiming-to-ship-a-couple-of-windows-phone-7-devices-by-year/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/lg-aiming-to-ship-a-couple-of-windows-phone-7-devices-by-year/Jul 28th 2010 12:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/lg-aiming-to-ship-a-couple-of-windows-phone-7-devices-by-year/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/lg-aiming-to-ship-a-couple-of-windows-phone-7-devices-by-year/I don't know 'bout shocking because they have more phone experience but I already made up my mind on the Dell Lightning. I'm just scared Dell makes some kind of mistake or mistakes like the antenna on the fruit phone because they have NO experience.]]>Jul 28th 2010 12:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/lg-aiming-to-ship-a-couple-of-windows-phone-7-devices-by-year/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/lg-aiming-to-ship-a-couple-of-windows-phone-7-devices-by-year/
The first WP7 device on Verizon with a keyboard gets my dollar.]]>Jul 28th 2010 1:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/lg-aiming-to-ship-a-couple-of-windows-phone-7-devices-by-year/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/lg-aiming-to-ship-a-couple-of-windows-phone-7-devices-by-year/The Smoke is a different phone from the Lightning and will run Android.
I would say that the Lightning is absolutely ELECTRIC. But anyone can make that mistake, just like I just intentionally misunderstood your post.]]>Jul 28th 2010 1:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/lg-aiming-to-ship-a-couple-of-windows-phone-7-devices-by-year/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/lg-aiming-to-ship-a-couple-of-windows-phone-7-devices-by-year/
If the LG Apollo isn't just some fanboy's wet dream, they just might.

http://www.phonearena.com/htmls/LG-Apollo-phone-m_925-p_4494.html]]>Jul 28th 2010 1:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/lg-aiming-to-ship-a-couple-of-windows-phone-7-devices-by-year/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/lg-aiming-to-ship-a-couple-of-windows-phone-7-devices-by-year/Jul 28th 2010 12:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/lg-aiming-to-ship-a-couple-of-windows-phone-7-devices-by-year/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/lg-aiming-to-ship-a-couple-of-windows-phone-7-devices-by-year/Jul 28th 2010 12:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/lg-aiming-to-ship-a-couple-of-windows-phone-7-devices-by-year/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/lg-aiming-to-ship-a-couple-of-windows-phone-7-devices-by-year/Jul 28th 2010 12:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/lg-aiming-to-ship-a-couple-of-windows-phone-7-devices-by-year/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/lg-aiming-to-ship-a-couple-of-windows-phone-7-devices-by-year/But then who are Android & WP7 going to look at to get all their ideas, like they have been up to this point?]]>Jul 28th 2010 1:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/lg-aiming-to-ship-a-couple-of-windows-phone-7-devices-by-year/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/lg-aiming-to-ship-a-couple-of-windows-phone-7-devices-by-year/Dude, not every idea regarding smart phones was imagined @ Cupertino, CA. Also, who co-developed a lot of the main pre-installed apps with Apple? Also, Who's been producing a mobile OS way before Apple made theirs? Sure there are some cues from other devices, but everyone does that, from car manufacturers to appliance manufacturers. I bet that every fridge maker makes a model with an ice maker built in, who's idea was it? Probably one of the makers back in the 80's.]]>Jul 28th 2010 1:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/lg-aiming-to-ship-a-couple-of-windows-phone-7-devices-by-year/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/lg-aiming-to-ship-a-couple-of-windows-phone-7-devices-by-year/get all their ideas from? such as what exactly? form over function which leads to antenna issues? my god you apple fanboys are morons. if you want to go that route then can i say the iphone copied the lg prada? i mean they're both full touchscreen phones with grids of icons. lol.
if you fools would give reasonable arguments people wouldn't make fun of you guys so much. but i guess it's too much for an apple fanboy to think on their own. all they can do is recycle the same troll comments over and over again. citing what ever saint jobs says.]]>Jul 28th 2010 1:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/lg-aiming-to-ship-a-couple-of-windows-phone-7-devices-by-year/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/lg-aiming-to-ship-a-couple-of-windows-phone-7-devices-by-year/Jul 28th 2010 12:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/lg-aiming-to-ship-a-couple-of-windows-phone-7-devices-by-year/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/lg-aiming-to-ship-a-couple-of-windows-phone-7-devices-by-year/Jul 28th 2010 12:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/lg-aiming-to-ship-a-couple-of-windows-phone-7-devices-by-year/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/lg-aiming-to-ship-a-couple-of-windows-phone-7-devices-by-year/Go away.]]>Jul 28th 2010 12:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/lg-aiming-to-ship-a-couple-of-windows-phone-7-devices-by-year/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/lg-aiming-to-ship-a-couple-of-windows-phone-7-devices-by-year/Jul 28th 2010 12:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/lg-aiming-to-ship-a-couple-of-windows-phone-7-devices-by-year/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/lg-aiming-to-ship-a-couple-of-windows-phone-7-devices-by-year/Jul 28th 2010 12:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/lg-aiming-to-ship-a-couple-of-windows-phone-7-devices-by-year/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/lg-aiming-to-ship-a-couple-of-windows-phone-7-devices-by-year/Jul 28th 2010 12:53PM