http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/uk-bans-r4-cards-makes-nintendo-ds-pirating-double-illegal/ Engadget Comments for http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/uk-bans-r4-cards-makes-nintendo-ds-pirating-double-illegal/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/uk-bans-r4-cards-makes-nintendo-ds-pirating-double-illegal/Jul 28th 2010 2:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/uk-bans-r4-cards-makes-nintendo-ds-pirating-double-illegal/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/uk-bans-r4-cards-makes-nintendo-ds-pirating-double-illegal/
Is this Darth Mendelson's doing? ]]>Jul 28th 2010 2:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/uk-bans-r4-cards-makes-nintendo-ds-pirating-double-illegal/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/uk-bans-r4-cards-makes-nintendo-ds-pirating-double-illegal/Feel the double rainbow!]]>Jul 28th 2010 2:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/uk-bans-r4-cards-makes-nintendo-ds-pirating-double-illegal/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/uk-bans-r4-cards-makes-nintendo-ds-pirating-double-illegal/
People still play the DS / DSi / DSi XL?

Grow up.]]>Jul 28th 2010 3:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/uk-bans-r4-cards-makes-nintendo-ds-pirating-double-illegal/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/uk-bans-r4-cards-makes-nintendo-ds-pirating-double-illegal/Jul 28th 2010 3:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/uk-bans-r4-cards-makes-nintendo-ds-pirating-double-illegal/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/uk-bans-r4-cards-makes-nintendo-ds-pirating-double-illegal/Jul 28th 2010 3:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/uk-bans-r4-cards-makes-nintendo-ds-pirating-double-illegal/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/uk-bans-r4-cards-makes-nintendo-ds-pirating-double-illegal/
http://cdn.medialib.computerandvideogames.com/screens/screenshot_223913_thumb300.jpg]]>Jul 28th 2010 3:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/uk-bans-r4-cards-makes-nintendo-ds-pirating-double-illegal/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/uk-bans-r4-cards-makes-nintendo-ds-pirating-double-illegal/Jul 28th 2010 3:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/uk-bans-r4-cards-makes-nintendo-ds-pirating-double-illegal/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/uk-bans-r4-cards-makes-nintendo-ds-pirating-double-illegal/
PSP! Step your game up!]]>Jul 28th 2010 3:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/uk-bans-r4-cards-makes-nintendo-ds-pirating-double-illegal/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/uk-bans-r4-cards-makes-nintendo-ds-pirating-double-illegal/Jul 28th 2010 3:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/uk-bans-r4-cards-makes-nintendo-ds-pirating-double-illegal/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/uk-bans-r4-cards-makes-nintendo-ds-pirating-double-illegal/
What do you mean "occassional"?

These R4 cards are rife. They're sold in independent electronics stores and reems of kids at school have them (my mother and mother-in-law both work at schools).

I'm a professional games developer too, even that being the case, I've never met anyone using these things for legitimate use.

I learned my trade from modding and indie projects - there's no necessity for homebrew games, the hobbyist has everything needed at their disposal to craft games. R4 cards, at least in the UK, are used almost exclusively for pirating, call me bias for being a developer, but I have spent decades getting where I am, have a family to care for. You don't get free food, thats a necessity - yet people expect free games... a luxury.


/rantover]]>Jul 28th 2010 3:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/uk-bans-r4-cards-makes-nintendo-ds-pirating-double-illegal/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/uk-bans-r4-cards-makes-nintendo-ds-pirating-double-illegal/Jul 28th 2010 3:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/uk-bans-r4-cards-makes-nintendo-ds-pirating-double-illegal/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/uk-bans-r4-cards-makes-nintendo-ds-pirating-double-illegal/Jul 28th 2010 3:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/uk-bans-r4-cards-makes-nintendo-ds-pirating-double-illegal/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/uk-bans-r4-cards-makes-nintendo-ds-pirating-double-illegal/
Kids want to play. Kids have no $$$$/££££ to pay for the modern overpriced games. Face the reality.

Heck, that's DS we are talking about: there are even no game demos here. Reviews are generally useless/biased. How do you even supposed to justify wasting the hard earned on something of unknown value and hefty price tag???]]>Jul 28th 2010 4:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/uk-bans-r4-cards-makes-nintendo-ds-pirating-double-illegal/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/uk-bans-r4-cards-makes-nintendo-ds-pirating-double-illegal/
How can you tell at a glance whether they have purchased the games they are running on them? I've purchased more than 20 games that I have loaded on my flashcart, but if you saw me on the bus you would probably assume I had pirated them.

It's a portable console. I like to not have to lug around an extra bag full of cartridges to swap in and out. I also like being able to back up my save files :)]]>Jul 28th 2010 5:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/uk-bans-r4-cards-makes-nintendo-ds-pirating-double-illegal/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/uk-bans-r4-cards-makes-nintendo-ds-pirating-double-illegal/
This is a stupid piece of law.

Also it's a pet peeve of mine when people reply to the first comment.]]>Jul 28th 2010 7:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/uk-bans-r4-cards-makes-nintendo-ds-pirating-double-illegal/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/uk-bans-r4-cards-makes-nintendo-ds-pirating-double-illegal/Woops let me rephrase that.

It's a pet peeve of mine when people reply to the first comment purely to get views.]]>Jul 28th 2010 7:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/uk-bans-r4-cards-makes-nintendo-ds-pirating-double-illegal/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/uk-bans-r4-cards-makes-nintendo-ds-pirating-double-illegal/Without piracy I would have given those 95% worthless titles too much money. I own enough legally acquired games, but I did go through a lot of pirated versions. The last blunder of mine was buying Divinity 2. The game became mindbogglingly boring after 3 hours. The demos don't provide enough to evaluate a game.]]>Jul 29th 2010 4:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/uk-bans-r4-cards-makes-nintendo-ds-pirating-double-illegal/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/uk-bans-r4-cards-makes-nintendo-ds-pirating-double-illegal/
I disagree with your post.

You say "I've never met anyone using these things for legitimate use". Well, perhaps you should look further than your circle of friends.

I bought an R4 (along with several friends) to use legitimate software. In fact, I bought it solely to use ScummVM. ScummVM is a perfectly legitimate piece of software, and providing you're using the data files which you have obtained legally (such as buying the disks for cheap from ebay), that is perfectly above board.

Then, I realised that you could listen to music using Moonshell. Not wanting to spend loads on an iPod (or other such music device), I decided to utilise the hardware which I had already procured and to load up my MicroSD card with a load of music too.

I admit, not everybody uses their R4, or other similar device, legally, but not everyone drives their car within the speed limit or whilst sober. This attitude of "well, people can use it to break the law so we'll ban it" is utterly ridiculous.]]>Jul 29th 2010 11:56AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/uk-bans-r4-cards-makes-nintendo-ds-pirating-double-illegal/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/uk-bans-r4-cards-makes-nintendo-ds-pirating-double-illegal/
There is also DSOrganize, which I use to get on IRC or to turn my DS into an Icecast radio.]]>Jul 30th 2010 1:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/uk-bans-r4-cards-makes-nintendo-ds-pirating-double-illegal/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/uk-bans-r4-cards-makes-nintendo-ds-pirating-double-illegal/Jul 28th 2010 2:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/uk-bans-r4-cards-makes-nintendo-ds-pirating-double-illegal/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/uk-bans-r4-cards-makes-nintendo-ds-pirating-double-illegal/Jul 28th 2010 2:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/uk-bans-r4-cards-makes-nintendo-ds-pirating-double-illegal/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/uk-bans-r4-cards-makes-nintendo-ds-pirating-double-illegal/Jul 28th 2010 2:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/uk-bans-r4-cards-makes-nintendo-ds-pirating-double-illegal/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/uk-bans-r4-cards-makes-nintendo-ds-pirating-double-illegal/Jul 28th 2010 2:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/uk-bans-r4-cards-makes-nintendo-ds-pirating-double-illegal/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/uk-bans-r4-cards-makes-nintendo-ds-pirating-double-illegal/Were block capitals really necessary. ]]>Jul 28th 2010 2:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/uk-bans-r4-cards-makes-nintendo-ds-pirating-double-illegal/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/uk-bans-r4-cards-makes-nintendo-ds-pirating-double-illegal/Jul 28th 2010 3:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/uk-bans-r4-cards-makes-nintendo-ds-pirating-double-illegal/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/uk-bans-r4-cards-makes-nintendo-ds-pirating-double-illegal/Silly engadget. ]]>Jul 28th 2010 2:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/uk-bans-r4-cards-makes-nintendo-ds-pirating-double-illegal/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/uk-bans-r4-cards-makes-nintendo-ds-pirating-double-illegal/Jul 28th 2010 2:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/uk-bans-r4-cards-makes-nintendo-ds-pirating-double-illegal/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/uk-bans-r4-cards-makes-nintendo-ds-pirating-double-illegal/Who wants to carry around a dozen little cartridges?]]>Jul 28th 2010 3:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/uk-bans-r4-cards-makes-nintendo-ds-pirating-double-illegal/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/uk-bans-r4-cards-makes-nintendo-ds-pirating-double-illegal/Jul 28th 2010 2:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/uk-bans-r4-cards-makes-nintendo-ds-pirating-double-illegal/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/uk-bans-r4-cards-makes-nintendo-ds-pirating-double-illegal/Jul 28th 2010 2:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/uk-bans-r4-cards-makes-nintendo-ds-pirating-double-illegal/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/uk-bans-r4-cards-makes-nintendo-ds-pirating-double-illegal/Jul 28th 2010 3:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/uk-bans-r4-cards-makes-nintendo-ds-pirating-double-illegal/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/uk-bans-r4-cards-makes-nintendo-ds-pirating-double-illegal/Jul 28th 2010 2:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/uk-bans-r4-cards-makes-nintendo-ds-pirating-double-illegal/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/uk-bans-r4-cards-makes-nintendo-ds-pirating-double-illegal/http://lifehacker.com/5594640/supercharge-your-homebrew+hacked-nintendo-ds
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Sorry Furryfan. Metacritic's report shows Nintendo DS at the top of the chart when it comes to game quality.

http://features.metacritic.com/features/2010/best-games-at-midyear-2010/

DS over the last 6 months has had 60% good games and 0% bad reviews.

Compare that to the other portable, the PSP, and you'll see a huge disparity. PSP has only managed to squeeze out a meager 30% good games.

DS has more games, better games, lower price point, better battery life, and a design that protects the screen my itself. It comes in a variety of sizes, and price points to make it attractive to gamers of any income bracket.]]>Jul 29th 2010 12:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/uk-bans-r4-cards-makes-nintendo-ds-pirating-double-illegal/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/uk-bans-r4-cards-makes-nintendo-ds-pirating-double-illegal/Jul 28th 2010 2:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/uk-bans-r4-cards-makes-nintendo-ds-pirating-double-illegal/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/uk-bans-r4-cards-makes-nintendo-ds-pirating-double-illegal/
Naw dude, CycloDS > R4.]]>Jul 28th 2010 3:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/uk-bans-r4-cards-makes-nintendo-ds-pirating-double-illegal/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/uk-bans-r4-cards-makes-nintendo-ds-pirating-double-illegal/
Yup....

Action Replay DS Media Edition
Acekard 2
Acekard R.P.G.
CycloDS Evolution
Datel Games n' Music
DS Link
DS-Xtreme
DSTT & DSTTi
EZFlash V
EDGE DS
EX4i Movie
G6DS Real
iEDGE DS
I-Cheat xtra
iPlayer
M3 Real
M3i Zero
N-Card (NAND Card)
NinjaPass
YushenDS Card, R4DS, M3 DS Simply, and their clones
SuperCard DSONE
SuperCard DSTWO
R4i Gold
NDSL R4

And much more....]]>Jul 28th 2010 3:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/uk-bans-r4-cards-makes-nintendo-ds-pirating-double-illegal/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/uk-bans-r4-cards-makes-nintendo-ds-pirating-double-illegal/o.0 GOLY HELL]]>Jul 28th 2010 3:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/uk-bans-r4-cards-makes-nintendo-ds-pirating-double-illegal/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/uk-bans-r4-cards-makes-nintendo-ds-pirating-double-illegal/
I dunno dood... im lovin my m3i zero (wait.... did I say that out loud?)

@pcwzrd13

ahahahahahahahahah! lol, UK/Nintendo.... just lol....

]]>Jul 28th 2010 3:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/uk-bans-r4-cards-makes-nintendo-ds-pirating-double-illegal/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/uk-bans-r4-cards-makes-nintendo-ds-pirating-double-illegal/according to BBC all such devices have been banned, so this ruling will have a much bigger impact than the article alluded! apparently it followed a similar ruling in the netherlands. classic domino effect
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-10790835]]>Jul 28th 2010 6:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/uk-bans-r4-cards-makes-nintendo-ds-pirating-double-illegal/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/uk-bans-r4-cards-makes-nintendo-ds-pirating-double-illegal/Acekard > all]]>Jul 28th 2010 10:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/uk-bans-r4-cards-makes-nintendo-ds-pirating-double-illegal/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/uk-bans-r4-cards-makes-nintendo-ds-pirating-double-illegal/
If so, then we're dealing with a double-negative, and we're still fine.]]>Jul 28th 2010 2:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/uk-bans-r4-cards-makes-nintendo-ds-pirating-double-illegal/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/uk-bans-r4-cards-makes-nintendo-ds-pirating-double-illegal/
doubleplusgood]]>Jul 28th 2010 3:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/uk-bans-r4-cards-makes-nintendo-ds-pirating-double-illegal/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/uk-bans-r4-cards-makes-nintendo-ds-pirating-double-illegal/doubleplusBAD!]]>Jul 28th 2010 3:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/uk-bans-r4-cards-makes-nintendo-ds-pirating-double-illegal/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/uk-bans-r4-cards-makes-nintendo-ds-pirating-double-illegal/
Or it could mean you get two fines instead of one]]>Jul 28th 2010 3:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/uk-bans-r4-cards-makes-nintendo-ds-pirating-double-illegal/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/uk-bans-r4-cards-makes-nintendo-ds-pirating-double-illegal/Jul 28th 2010 3:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/uk-bans-r4-cards-makes-nintendo-ds-pirating-double-illegal/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/28/uk-bans-r4-cards-makes-nintendo-ds-pirating-double-illegal/Jul 28th 2010 3:19PM