http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/29/the-state-of-the-electric-automobile-in-pictures/ Engadget Comments for The state of the electric automobile, in pictures http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/29/the-state-of-the-electric-automobile-in-pictures/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/29/the-state-of-the-electric-automobile-in-pictures/Jul 29th 2010 5:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/29/the-state-of-the-electric-automobile-in-pictures/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/29/the-state-of-the-electric-automobile-in-pictures/--too small for my needs (hauling multiple brass instruments)
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--too effing expensive ($41K GM? Really? WTF?)]]>Jul 29th 2010 5:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/29/the-state-of-the-electric-automobile-in-pictures/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/29/the-state-of-the-electric-automobile-in-pictures/Jul 29th 2010 5:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/29/the-state-of-the-electric-automobile-in-pictures/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/29/the-state-of-the-electric-automobile-in-pictures/ 1) most of the electricity in the country is made from coal

2) damage to the earth and destruction of ecosystems due to retreval of lithium in the batteries]]>Jul 29th 2010 6:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/29/the-state-of-the-electric-automobile-in-pictures/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/29/the-state-of-the-electric-automobile-in-pictures/
Really? Because there is a lot of capital flowing to battery research projects. ]]>Jul 29th 2010 7:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/29/the-state-of-the-electric-automobile-in-pictures/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/29/the-state-of-the-electric-automobile-in-pictures/
I doubt we will be seeing any coal or lithium spills causing a major ecological disaster.

Personally, I want an electric car for the lower maintenance.]]>Jul 30th 2010 12:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/29/the-state-of-the-electric-automobile-in-pictures/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/29/the-state-of-the-electric-automobile-in-pictures/Jul 30th 2010 3:52AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/29/the-state-of-the-electric-automobile-in-pictures/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/29/the-state-of-the-electric-automobile-in-pictures/
Most people will charge from the grid, but that doesn't mean certain charging stations can't provide green power in the future.]]>Jul 30th 2010 12:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/29/the-state-of-the-electric-automobile-in-pictures/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/29/the-state-of-the-electric-automobile-in-pictures/
I'm not spending that much for one though, even with the subsidies.]]>Jul 29th 2010 5:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/29/the-state-of-the-electric-automobile-in-pictures/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/29/the-state-of-the-electric-automobile-in-pictures/
But think of the alternative-- buy a Tesla and you can have five times the sexy at only three times the price!

Pity that the Tesla wasn't represented at the show, but it's not a good fit when compared to the others.]]>Jul 29th 2010 6:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/29/the-state-of-the-electric-automobile-in-pictures/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/29/the-state-of-the-electric-automobile-in-pictures/Jul 30th 2010 12:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/29/the-state-of-the-electric-automobile-in-pictures/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/29/the-state-of-the-electric-automobile-in-pictures/Jul 29th 2010 5:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/29/the-state-of-the-electric-automobile-in-pictures/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/29/the-state-of-the-electric-automobile-in-pictures/
Not the Smart car or the i-MiEV]]>Jul 29th 2010 5:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/29/the-state-of-the-electric-automobile-in-pictures/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/29/the-state-of-the-electric-automobile-in-pictures/Jul 29th 2010 5:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/29/the-state-of-the-electric-automobile-in-pictures/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/29/the-state-of-the-electric-automobile-in-pictures/
The electric motor NetGain 9" is $1700, 11" is $3000. Those are powerful enough to move a S10 at highway speeds.

It is the batteries and controllers that could come down in price.]]>Jul 29th 2010 9:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/29/the-state-of-the-electric-automobile-in-pictures/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/29/the-state-of-the-electric-automobile-in-pictures/Ah, well I don't know that much about.... cars in general. Excuse my ignorance.]]>Jul 30th 2010 7:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/29/the-state-of-the-electric-automobile-in-pictures/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/29/the-state-of-the-electric-automobile-in-pictures/Jul 29th 2010 5:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/29/the-state-of-the-electric-automobile-in-pictures/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/29/the-state-of-the-electric-automobile-in-pictures/solar powered, regen, ultracapacitors, LiFePO4, ground effects..
http://www.thekpv.com]]>Jul 29th 2010 6:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/29/the-state-of-the-electric-automobile-in-pictures/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/29/the-state-of-the-electric-automobile-in-pictures/Jul 29th 2010 6:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/29/the-state-of-the-electric-automobile-in-pictures/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/29/the-state-of-the-electric-automobile-in-pictures/I take that back. The Prius looks nice also. The rest arent Meh, they are ok.

Why cant they just take the body of a normal luxury car, and make the inside electric?

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/car/09q4/2010_bmw_activehybrid_7_7-series_hybrid-first_drive_review

Almost like that. ]]>Jul 29th 2010 6:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/29/the-state-of-the-electric-automobile-in-pictures/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/29/the-state-of-the-electric-automobile-in-pictures/
Why can't they take an S10 (or an EV1) and convert it. They have done this before, and they are still on the roads. But with the new LiFePO4 batteries (or SCiB/other newer tech), I would like to see what they could do, and if the car would be under $20k.

I am converting an S10 for about $10k-$11k with LiFePO4 batteries currently.]]>Jul 29th 2010 9:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/29/the-state-of-the-electric-automobile-in-pictures/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/29/the-state-of-the-electric-automobile-in-pictures/
you mean like the focus up there?]]>Jul 30th 2010 2:52AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/29/the-state-of-the-electric-automobile-in-pictures/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/29/the-state-of-the-electric-automobile-in-pictures/Jul 30th 2010 12:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/29/the-state-of-the-electric-automobile-in-pictures/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/29/the-state-of-the-electric-automobile-in-pictures/1) only fits 2 people
2) 64 mile range
3) costs $600 a month for a 4 year lease (that means you owe god knows how much to buy it outright after that)

The Nissan leaf is looking like the full-EV winner, though I think the public will embrace plug-ins until we all feel comfortable with a true EV refill infrastructure.]]>Jul 29th 2010 6:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/29/the-state-of-the-electric-automobile-in-pictures/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/29/the-state-of-the-electric-automobile-in-pictures/
the Volt is such a better deal for lease. Plus once the battery runs out, you can still keep going. It is also far more practical (if you go somewhere other than a few city blocks by yourself or buy more than a handful of groceries at a time).]]>Jul 29th 2010 7:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/29/the-state-of-the-electric-automobile-in-pictures/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/29/the-state-of-the-electric-automobile-in-pictures/
I can't exactly comment on the price, but the Smart is very good at the thing it's designed for: driving in cities. The problem is that most Americans probably don't really have as much need for this sort of thing and that in the places where it is necessary it's often still not going quite far enough compared to just ditching a car and using public transit.

In San Francisco I see them almost all the time. Hell, I have at least one and I think two or three on the blocks surrounding my apartment. I mean, yes, they're small, but that's the point. You can actually find a parking place for them... or, well, you have a slightly better chance of finding a parking place for them.

Can only go 64 miles? The city's only 7 miles on a side (and that's why pizza places a mile and a half away will consider you too far away for delivery). True, that means it won't work for those times when you actually leave town; which is one of the few reasons to actually own a car.

The big problem, as I see it, for electric cars in a city is that most people are renting and park on the street so there really isn't any place to actually charge them. They'll need to hit a critical mass to get public chargers around in order to have a chance to actually make them work.]]>Aug 2nd 2010 7:08AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/29/the-state-of-the-electric-automobile-in-pictures/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/29/the-state-of-the-electric-automobile-in-pictures/:-(]]>Jul 29th 2010 6:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/29/the-state-of-the-electric-automobile-in-pictures/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/29/the-state-of-the-electric-automobile-in-pictures/
Also, the Prius gets the ugly award.]]>Jul 29th 2010 6:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/29/the-state-of-the-electric-automobile-in-pictures/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/29/the-state-of-the-electric-automobile-in-pictures/
But that all electric model looks awesome.
Now, if only they could only pack as much power in one as their gas equivalents, for the same price. ]]>Jul 29th 2010 6:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/29/the-state-of-the-electric-automobile-in-pictures/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/29/the-state-of-the-electric-automobile-in-pictures/I'll take the Leaf, add one of those little motorcycle trailers to the back, and put a biodiesel capable generator on it for less $$..]]>Jul 29th 2010 6:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/29/the-state-of-the-electric-automobile-in-pictures/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/29/the-state-of-the-electric-automobile-in-pictures/Jul 29th 2010 6:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/29/the-state-of-the-electric-automobile-in-pictures/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/29/the-state-of-the-electric-automobile-in-pictures/
There, fixed it for you.]]>Jul 29th 2010 7:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/29/the-state-of-the-electric-automobile-in-pictures/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/29/the-state-of-the-electric-automobile-in-pictures/
If you can figure out how to make mass transit work for much of suburbanized America, then let the rest of us know.

Until then, there's nothing wrong with private vehicle transport. ]]>Jul 29th 2010 7:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/29/the-state-of-the-electric-automobile-in-pictures/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/29/the-state-of-the-electric-automobile-in-pictures/Lol, if you can figure out how to mass transit suburban america you'd be a rich bitch lol. Let me know what you come up with.

Btw, atlanta, ga's MARTA is going bankrupt. Mostly because or suburbia, but cheap minorities that sneaky free rides dont help either......]]>Jul 29th 2010 8:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/29/the-state-of-the-electric-automobile-in-pictures/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/29/the-state-of-the-electric-automobile-in-pictures/Jul 29th 2010 9:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/29/the-state-of-the-electric-automobile-in-pictures/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/29/the-state-of-the-electric-automobile-in-pictures/Jul 29th 2010 8:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/29/the-state-of-the-electric-automobile-in-pictures/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/29/the-state-of-the-electric-automobile-in-pictures/
The EV1, if built today, could use LiFePO4 batteries or the SCiB ones and get a Tesla like range (200-300 miles). It was aerodynamic and lightweight. But the Lead Acid and later the NiMH batteries weren't very long lasting (both in terms of single charges and lifetime).]]>Jul 29th 2010 9:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/29/the-state-of-the-electric-automobile-in-pictures/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/29/the-state-of-the-electric-automobile-in-pictures/Jul 29th 2010 11:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/29/the-state-of-the-electric-automobile-in-pictures/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/29/the-state-of-the-electric-automobile-in-pictures/Jul 30th 2010 2:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/29/the-state-of-the-electric-automobile-in-pictures/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/29/the-state-of-the-electric-automobile-in-pictures/Jul 30th 2010 2:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/07/29/the-state-of-the-electric-automobile-in-pictures/http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/29/the-state-of-the-electric-automobile-in-pictures/The Chevy Volt is just a flopp or lie, though. A 180HP Volvo XC70 could do more or less the same fuel efficiency.]]>Jul 30th 2010 8:38PM