http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/03/rim-reported-to-have-agreed-snooping-deal-with-india-says-no-w/ Engadget Comments for http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/03/rim-reported-to-have-agreed-snooping-deal-with-india-says-no-w/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/03/rim-reported-to-have-agreed-snooping-deal-with-india-says-no-w/Aug 3rd 2010 7:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/03/rim-reported-to-have-agreed-snooping-deal-with-india-says-no-w/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/03/rim-reported-to-have-agreed-snooping-deal-with-india-says-no-w/BS. The parent company usually has NO CLUE what goes on in the Indian division. Indian companies HAVE to comply with ANYTHING the government demands or they're screwed, literally. Non-compliance will result in sabotage, "accidents" and other unfortunate events that will result in the company shutting down.]]>Aug 3rd 2010 7:40AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/03/rim-reported-to-have-agreed-snooping-deal-with-india-says-no-w/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/03/rim-reported-to-have-agreed-snooping-deal-with-india-says-no-w/
lol im sure they will love to]]>Aug 3rd 2010 7:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/03/rim-reported-to-have-agreed-snooping-deal-with-india-says-no-w/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/03/rim-reported-to-have-agreed-snooping-deal-with-india-says-no-w/Aug 3rd 2010 8:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/03/rim-reported-to-have-agreed-snooping-deal-with-india-says-no-w/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/03/rim-reported-to-have-agreed-snooping-deal-with-india-says-no-w/
HELP NEEDED

Is this whole debacle that RIM wants to sell Blackberry's in India,
BUT India won't agree unless RIM gives the Indian government access to each Blackberry owners private info (emails, sms, mms etc) ??]]>Aug 3rd 2010 9:49AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/03/rim-reported-to-have-agreed-snooping-deal-with-india-says-no-w/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/03/rim-reported-to-have-agreed-snooping-deal-with-india-says-no-w/
All I see is Angry Sonic the Hedgehog...]]>Aug 3rd 2010 10:08AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/03/rim-reported-to-have-agreed-snooping-deal-with-india-says-no-w/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/03/rim-reported-to-have-agreed-snooping-deal-with-india-says-no-w/Aug 3rd 2010 10:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/03/rim-reported-to-have-agreed-snooping-deal-with-india-says-no-w/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/03/rim-reported-to-have-agreed-snooping-deal-with-india-says-no-w/Aug 3rd 2010 11:00AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/03/rim-reported-to-have-agreed-snooping-deal-with-india-says-no-w/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/03/rim-reported-to-have-agreed-snooping-deal-with-india-says-no-w/Aug 4th 2010 12:36AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/03/rim-reported-to-have-agreed-snooping-deal-with-india-says-no-w/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/03/rim-reported-to-have-agreed-snooping-deal-with-india-says-no-w/Aug 3rd 2010 7:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/03/rim-reported-to-have-agreed-snooping-deal-with-india-says-no-w/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/03/rim-reported-to-have-agreed-snooping-deal-with-india-says-no-w/Aug 3rd 2010 8:42AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/03/rim-reported-to-have-agreed-snooping-deal-with-india-says-no-w/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/03/rim-reported-to-have-agreed-snooping-deal-with-india-says-no-w/
I bet anything that RIM will comply, as Google did to China rules (contrary to what some western media claim).

At the end of the day, it's just a business and money is their guide.]]>Aug 3rd 2010 9:33AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/03/rim-reported-to-have-agreed-snooping-deal-with-india-says-no-w/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/03/rim-reported-to-have-agreed-snooping-deal-with-india-says-no-w/Aug 3rd 2010 7:32AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/03/rim-reported-to-have-agreed-snooping-deal-with-india-says-no-w/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/03/rim-reported-to-have-agreed-snooping-deal-with-india-says-no-w/
No they are not. They cost as much as buying them unlocked in US or Canada.]]>Aug 3rd 2010 1:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/03/rim-reported-to-have-agreed-snooping-deal-with-india-says-no-w/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/03/rim-reported-to-have-agreed-snooping-deal-with-india-says-no-w/Aug 3rd 2010 7:34AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/03/rim-reported-to-have-agreed-snooping-deal-with-india-says-no-w/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/03/rim-reported-to-have-agreed-snooping-deal-with-india-says-no-w/Aug 3rd 2010 7:34AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/03/rim-reported-to-have-agreed-snooping-deal-with-india-says-no-w/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/03/rim-reported-to-have-agreed-snooping-deal-with-india-says-no-w/Aug 3rd 2010 7:42AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/03/rim-reported-to-have-agreed-snooping-deal-with-india-says-no-w/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/03/rim-reported-to-have-agreed-snooping-deal-with-india-says-no-w/Don't try to be a Grandma trying to make a comment on every matter even when you know squat about something! Moron!]]>Aug 3rd 2010 9:07AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/03/rim-reported-to-have-agreed-snooping-deal-with-india-says-no-w/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/03/rim-reported-to-have-agreed-snooping-deal-with-india-says-no-w/ : DJ not even the biggest moron in the world.]]>Aug 3rd 2010 8:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/03/rim-reported-to-have-agreed-snooping-deal-with-india-says-no-w/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/03/rim-reported-to-have-agreed-snooping-deal-with-india-says-no-w/Aug 3rd 2010 7:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/03/rim-reported-to-have-agreed-snooping-deal-with-india-says-no-w/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/03/rim-reported-to-have-agreed-snooping-deal-with-india-says-no-w/
Cause in the UAE people will get their heads cut off.]]>Aug 3rd 2010 7:42AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/03/rim-reported-to-have-agreed-snooping-deal-with-india-says-no-w/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/03/rim-reported-to-have-agreed-snooping-deal-with-india-says-no-w/
I'm sure in your head that was hilarious, but...no.]]>Aug 3rd 2010 7:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/03/rim-reported-to-have-agreed-snooping-deal-with-india-says-no-w/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/03/rim-reported-to-have-agreed-snooping-deal-with-india-says-no-w/Aug 3rd 2010 7:44AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/03/rim-reported-to-have-agreed-snooping-deal-with-india-says-no-w/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/03/rim-reported-to-have-agreed-snooping-deal-with-india-says-no-w/Aug 3rd 2010 7:44AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/03/rim-reported-to-have-agreed-snooping-deal-with-india-says-no-w/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/03/rim-reported-to-have-agreed-snooping-deal-with-india-says-no-w/
But places like Dubai are becoming huge financial centres where Western business people travel frequently. RIM's non compliance has reportedly lead to restrictions on cell data and wifi access for mobiles. Surely that will affect business in the long run as people attempt to find alternative means? ]]>Aug 3rd 2010 7:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/03/rim-reported-to-have-agreed-snooping-deal-with-india-says-no-w/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/03/rim-reported-to-have-agreed-snooping-deal-with-india-says-no-w/
Don't kid yourself, once they do this in India, they'll do it in other countries if said countries require them to. It's just a matter of time and money. And I don't blame them, it's business. Besides, those emerging markets are pivotal to RIM's growth.]]>Aug 3rd 2010 9:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/03/rim-reported-to-have-agreed-snooping-deal-with-india-says-no-w/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/03/rim-reported-to-have-agreed-snooping-deal-with-india-says-no-w/
'cos UAE wants this access to censor content while India wants to monitor emails and chats for security. That is in India, the cops wont give a damn if you download gay porn on your BlackBerry, while in UAE / Saudi they would track you down and probably throw you in prison.

India is just trying to do what US does using the Patriot Act, but is more open about it.
Big Difference.]]>Aug 3rd 2010 1:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/03/rim-reported-to-have-agreed-snooping-deal-with-india-says-no-w/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/03/rim-reported-to-have-agreed-snooping-deal-with-india-says-no-w/
UAE has become a major transit point for travelers to the subcontinent Emirates has now become the 5th largest in terms of Internationl traffic. It is also expanding much more faster than most international airlines.

RIM is just being stupid. There is also a possibility that Canadian govt or American govt want to retain the exclusivity on the data access to India and UAE which is always a good bargaining point in international relations.

I dont think it will work for RIM India has 300 million mobile Subscribers and growing, China has about billion + UAE alone has half a million Subscribers on RIM.

There are many options for a smart phone many from China they will be only shooting themselves in the foot if they don't comply with the govts. demands
]]>Aug 3rd 2010 8:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/03/rim-reported-to-have-agreed-snooping-deal-with-india-says-no-w/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/03/rim-reported-to-have-agreed-snooping-deal-with-india-says-no-w/Aug 3rd 2010 8:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/03/rim-reported-to-have-agreed-snooping-deal-with-india-says-no-w/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/03/rim-reported-to-have-agreed-snooping-deal-with-india-says-no-w/Aug 3rd 2010 7:46AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/03/rim-reported-to-have-agreed-snooping-deal-with-india-says-no-w/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/03/rim-reported-to-have-agreed-snooping-deal-with-india-says-no-w/Aug 3rd 2010 9:00AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/03/rim-reported-to-have-agreed-snooping-deal-with-india-says-no-w/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/03/rim-reported-to-have-agreed-snooping-deal-with-india-says-no-w/
They are not banned but inspected and monitored.]]>Aug 3rd 2010 9:39AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/03/rim-reported-to-have-agreed-snooping-deal-with-india-says-no-w/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/03/rim-reported-to-have-agreed-snooping-deal-with-india-says-no-w/What next, ban every encryption scheme that exists, unless we pass on the encryption key to the government?
I'am from India, and I'am BlackBerry user. Personally, I dont give a rat's ass if they go through every mail of mine, since I use it for personal purposes.
But what happens when the corrupt officials in start leaking corporate secrets, like a product launch to its competitors ?

Do not forget that Indian Government owns and operates some of these corporations.

Of course, if the keys are spilled to Indian govt.. the terrorists will stop using blackberries. But what is the guarantee that they will not encrypt their mails using a third party encryption tool and send them across?
So at the end, only people who used it for legitimate reasons, like corporate employees would suffer. ]]>Aug 4th 2010 12:44AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/03/rim-reported-to-have-agreed-snooping-deal-with-india-says-no-w/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/03/rim-reported-to-have-agreed-snooping-deal-with-india-says-no-w/Aug 3rd 2010 7:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/03/rim-reported-to-have-agreed-snooping-deal-with-india-says-no-w/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/03/rim-reported-to-have-agreed-snooping-deal-with-india-says-no-w/
You're overstating the extent of the law there. ISPs have to store the "details" of the email, who sent it, where it was sent, what time and date...etc. The content of the email and any attachments are not required to be stored under this law, and frankly I doubt most ISPs would have the capacity to do so.]]>Aug 3rd 2010 8:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/03/rim-reported-to-have-agreed-snooping-deal-with-india-says-no-w/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/03/rim-reported-to-have-agreed-snooping-deal-with-india-says-no-w/
In the UK there is no such thing as privacy.]]>Aug 3rd 2010 8:59AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/03/rim-reported-to-have-agreed-snooping-deal-with-india-says-no-w/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/03/rim-reported-to-have-agreed-snooping-deal-with-india-says-no-w/
Fortunately, we do not have the CIA and the NSA snooping in on all the communications going out and coming in into this country. Hope BlackBerry was popular when the 9/11 happened. The only reason that India wants to monitor communications on the Blackberry network is because of the constant threat of terrorism and terrorists using the devices. ]]>Aug 3rd 2010 8:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/03/rim-reported-to-have-agreed-snooping-deal-with-india-says-no-w/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/03/rim-reported-to-have-agreed-snooping-deal-with-india-says-no-w/Aug 3rd 2010 8:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/03/rim-reported-to-have-agreed-snooping-deal-with-india-says-no-w/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/03/rim-reported-to-have-agreed-snooping-deal-with-india-says-no-w/Aug 3rd 2010 9:01AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/03/rim-reported-to-have-agreed-snooping-deal-with-india-says-no-w/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/03/rim-reported-to-have-agreed-snooping-deal-with-india-says-no-w/
If you have a known terrorist then tapping his phone and monitoring his phone is worth it. However, monitoring my calls to a girlfriend is just ludicrous. ]]>Aug 3rd 2010 9:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/03/rim-reported-to-have-agreed-snooping-deal-with-india-says-no-w/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/03/rim-reported-to-have-agreed-snooping-deal-with-india-says-no-w/Aug 3rd 2010 9:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/03/rim-reported-to-have-agreed-snooping-deal-with-india-says-no-w/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/03/rim-reported-to-have-agreed-snooping-deal-with-india-says-no-w/But terrorists will be required to adjust their tactics right? As an Indian, screw my privacy, first save my life from those damn socially-uneducated bastards.]]>Aug 3rd 2010 9:13AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/03/rim-reported-to-have-agreed-snooping-deal-with-india-says-no-w/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/03/rim-reported-to-have-agreed-snooping-deal-with-india-says-no-w/
You think CIA and NSA snooping does not constitute "taking away your privacy"? You think they don't have access to your BB communications?]]>Aug 3rd 2010 9:44AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/03/rim-reported-to-have-agreed-snooping-deal-with-india-says-no-w/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/03/rim-reported-to-have-agreed-snooping-deal-with-india-says-no-w/Aug 3rd 2010 9:54AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/03/rim-reported-to-have-agreed-snooping-deal-with-india-says-no-w/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/03/rim-reported-to-have-agreed-snooping-deal-with-india-says-no-w/
As someone said the terrorists might change the tactics, that itself is a victory as we have managed to cut down a viable communication channel for them. ]]>Aug 3rd 2010 10:00AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/03/rim-reported-to-have-agreed-snooping-deal-with-india-says-no-w/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/03/rim-reported-to-have-agreed-snooping-deal-with-india-says-no-w/
I'm not sure if that is the case, there is technology to look through your window or watch you from satellites, but no one seems to mind sun-bathing?

I understand that this might make data mining a bit easier, but you are still looking at data from millions going through a few hundred hands. The probability of someone looking at your specific data would be equivalent to that of hitting a jackpot!

@Kurian dude, stop talking BS you dont know. India has been grappling with the the problems left behind by the US in Afghanistan since the '80s. India has a whole lot of terrorist threats, and the people of India would probably welcome the snooping measures.. provided it works out to achieve its goals!]]>Aug 3rd 2010 10:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/03/rim-reported-to-have-agreed-snooping-deal-with-india-says-no-w/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/03/rim-reported-to-have-agreed-snooping-deal-with-india-says-no-w/Aug 3rd 2010 10:08AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/03/rim-reported-to-have-agreed-snooping-deal-with-india-says-no-w/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/03/rim-reported-to-have-agreed-snooping-deal-with-india-says-no-w/They do have specific language and that where government intelligent and spies take their place, like in Indonesia the terrorist call their bombers as "brides". Human can only try and hope, finally God will decide it. At least they try]]>Aug 3rd 2010 10:28AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/03/rim-reported-to-have-agreed-snooping-deal-with-india-says-no-w/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/03/rim-reported-to-have-agreed-snooping-deal-with-india-says-no-w/The UAE will be next.

So what. All these countries want is the same access USA, UK, France, Canada, etc. all have to your emails.]]>Aug 3rd 2010 10:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/03/rim-reported-to-have-agreed-snooping-deal-with-india-says-no-w/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/03/rim-reported-to-have-agreed-snooping-deal-with-india-says-no-w/Aug 3rd 2010 11:21AM