http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/04/playons-web-app-brings-hulu-and-netflix-to-ipod-touch-iphone/ Engadget Comments for PlayOn's web app brings Hulu and Netflix to iPod touch, iPhone http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/04/playons-web-app-brings-hulu-and-netflix-to-ipod-touch-iphone/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/04/playons-web-app-brings-hulu-and-netflix-to-ipod-touch-iphone/Aug 4th 2010 3:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/04/playons-web-app-brings-hulu-and-netflix-to-ipod-touch-iphone/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/04/playons-web-app-brings-hulu-and-netflix-to-ipod-touch-iphone/
Unless they specifically block their website (which I don't think will be legal) Apple can't do sh*t.]]>Aug 4th 2010 3:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/04/playons-web-app-brings-hulu-and-netflix-to-ipod-touch-iphone/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/04/playons-web-app-brings-hulu-and-netflix-to-ipod-touch-iphone/Aug 4th 2010 3:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/04/playons-web-app-brings-hulu-and-netflix-to-ipod-touch-iphone/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/04/playons-web-app-brings-hulu-and-netflix-to-ipod-touch-iphone/Aug 4th 2010 3:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/04/playons-web-app-brings-hulu-and-netflix-to-ipod-touch-iphone/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/04/playons-web-app-brings-hulu-and-netflix-to-ipod-touch-iphone/Aug 4th 2010 3:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/04/playons-web-app-brings-hulu-and-netflix-to-ipod-touch-iphone/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/04/playons-web-app-brings-hulu-and-netflix-to-ipod-touch-iphone/Aug 4th 2010 3:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/04/playons-web-app-brings-hulu-and-netflix-to-ipod-touch-iphone/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/04/playons-web-app-brings-hulu-and-netflix-to-ipod-touch-iphone/
netflix have their own iPhone app coming out in days..... who needs a browser streaming service with fees?]]>Aug 4th 2010 4:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/04/playons-web-app-brings-hulu-and-netflix-to-ipod-touch-iphone/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/04/playons-web-app-brings-hulu-and-netflix-to-ipod-touch-iphone/Aug 4th 2010 4:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/04/playons-web-app-brings-hulu-and-netflix-to-ipod-touch-iphone/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/04/playons-web-app-brings-hulu-and-netflix-to-ipod-touch-iphone/
I'm missing something.

Netflix and Hulu (and most others) use the encrypted streams capability of Flash to play their stuff on the web.

HTML5 doesn't support any sort of DRM.

What is PlayOn doing? If they are stripping the DRM then I would think that Netflix and Hulu would shut them down.

Can someone explain what is happening here?]]>Aug 4th 2010 4:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/04/playons-web-app-brings-hulu-and-netflix-to-ipod-touch-iphone/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/04/playons-web-app-brings-hulu-and-netflix-to-ipod-touch-iphone/
MANY people argue that apple won't allow apps that conflict with their iTunes store, but there are not only dozens of examples (like Orb Live), but they've approved many other streaming apps (over WiFi only in most cases, at AT&Ts insistence). There are also dozens of sites on the net other than this one to see TV programs that already work on the iPhone, including some sponsored by the very same content partners apple makes money off hosting on iTunes. They'd also not even be discussing Hulu and Netflix streaming under that false logic. ]]>Aug 4th 2010 5:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/04/playons-web-app-brings-hulu-and-netflix-to-ipod-touch-iphone/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/04/playons-web-app-brings-hulu-and-netflix-to-ipod-touch-iphone/Aug 4th 2010 3:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/04/playons-web-app-brings-hulu-and-netflix-to-ipod-touch-iphone/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/04/playons-web-app-brings-hulu-and-netflix-to-ipod-touch-iphone/Aug 4th 2010 3:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/04/playons-web-app-brings-hulu-and-netflix-to-ipod-touch-iphone/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/04/playons-web-app-brings-hulu-and-netflix-to-ipod-touch-iphone/Aug 4th 2010 3:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/04/playons-web-app-brings-hulu-and-netflix-to-ipod-touch-iphone/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/04/playons-web-app-brings-hulu-and-netflix-to-ipod-touch-iphone/Aug 4th 2010 4:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/04/playons-web-app-brings-hulu-and-netflix-to-ipod-touch-iphone/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/04/playons-web-app-brings-hulu-and-netflix-to-ipod-touch-iphone/Aug 4th 2010 3:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/04/playons-web-app-brings-hulu-and-netflix-to-ipod-touch-iphone/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/04/playons-web-app-brings-hulu-and-netflix-to-ipod-touch-iphone/Aug 4th 2010 3:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/04/playons-web-app-brings-hulu-and-netflix-to-ipod-touch-iphone/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/04/playons-web-app-brings-hulu-and-netflix-to-ipod-touch-iphone/
nelson_HA_HA.png]]>Aug 4th 2010 3:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/04/playons-web-app-brings-hulu-and-netflix-to-ipod-touch-iphone/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/04/playons-web-app-brings-hulu-and-netflix-to-ipod-touch-iphone/Aug 4th 2010 3:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/04/playons-web-app-brings-hulu-and-netflix-to-ipod-touch-iphone/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/04/playons-web-app-brings-hulu-and-netflix-to-ipod-touch-iphone/What makes you think you won't require servers using Android too? These processes (or "servers") have to be running on your native box to communicate with devices. How do you copy files wirelessly? an SSH server. How do you remotely control your computer? A VNC server. Don't be ridiculous...]]>Aug 4th 2010 3:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/04/playons-web-app-brings-hulu-and-netflix-to-ipod-touch-iphone/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/04/playons-web-app-brings-hulu-and-netflix-to-ipod-touch-iphone/Aug 4th 2010 3:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/04/playons-web-app-brings-hulu-and-netflix-to-ipod-touch-iphone/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/04/playons-web-app-brings-hulu-and-netflix-to-ipod-touch-iphone/
What are you even talking about? It is absolutely an Apple limitation.

I don't need this play on server on Android because it has Flash and can play Hulu.

I don't need Mobile Mouse server on Android or Windows Mobile because you can actually use bluetooth to natively tether with your computer.

I don't need Wifi Sync on Android because it sync wirelessly, especially when Gingerbread comes out with the tablets.

I don't need an Air Video server because you can actually access NETWORK SHARES over SMB. WTF Apple???

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"What are you even talking about? It is absolutely an Apple limitation."
No, it's a network limitation. Servers are required for communication.

"I don't need this play on server on Android because it has Flash and can play Hulu."

First, that was practically just implemented. Second, You go ahead and support Flash, I find it a gawd awful platform and have run browsers *without flash* since before the iPhone.

"I don't need Mobile Mouse server on Android or Windows Mobile because you can actually use bluetooth to natively tether with your computer."

So you use bluetooth...which connects over a wireless connection...via a SERVER. You're point?

"I don't need Wifi Sync on Android because it sync wirelessly, especially when Gingerbread comes out with the tablets."

Does it sync over wifi? Currently? How? Obviously you don't have any background services running in order to accommodate for this, that would just be a waste. O.o

"I don't need an Air Video server because you can actually access NETWORK SHARES over SMB."

SMB, my friend, is a SERVER. You don't get it at all, do you?

"WTF Apple???"

WTF for people talking about things they don't understand. Amirite?]]>Aug 4th 2010 4:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/04/playons-web-app-brings-hulu-and-netflix-to-ipod-touch-iphone/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/04/playons-web-app-brings-hulu-and-netflix-to-ipod-touch-iphone/
I can transfer files wirelessly from my windows rig to my unjailbroken iPhone with no server installed on my windows rig. I use FTP (already built into windows) and Hian Zin Jong's Downloads app.

I can also use RDP (also already built into windows) to remotely control my windows rig from my iPhone.

These features should be built into ios just like they are built into windows. ]]>Aug 4th 2010 4:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/04/playons-web-app-brings-hulu-and-netflix-to-ipod-touch-iphone/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/04/playons-web-app-brings-hulu-and-netflix-to-ipod-touch-iphone/Aug 4th 2010 5:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/04/playons-web-app-brings-hulu-and-netflix-to-ipod-touch-iphone/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/04/playons-web-app-brings-hulu-and-netflix-to-ipod-touch-iphone/Aug 4th 2010 5:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/04/playons-web-app-brings-hulu-and-netflix-to-ipod-touch-iphone/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/04/playons-web-app-brings-hulu-and-netflix-to-ipod-touch-iphone/
For these features to be "built in", what you need is a computer, not a mobile phone or tablet PC. And both RDP and FTP are servers.

@muyoso

Apple devices ignore these standards? No, friend. My MacBook Pro follows the standards quite well. It's Windows that doesn't. As an example, from what you said earlier, SMB. It's also called a "Microsoft Windows Network" for a reason. You're entirely missing the point of these apps. The apps, and consequentially the servers, are built for specific tasks to be more efficient. Specifically made to be quick, light, and no-nonsense. Unlike you're so-called "standards", which were put in place to accommodate as much as physically possible. ]]>Aug 4th 2010 5:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/04/playons-web-app-brings-hulu-and-netflix-to-ipod-touch-iphone/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/04/playons-web-app-brings-hulu-and-netflix-to-ipod-touch-iphone/
PlayOn isn't just for the iPhone, it's much more than that.

It's a slick server that fetches content off the Net and acts as a media server. A "media server" is a repository of music, pictures, movies which then allows said media to be consumed by OTHER devices. The protocol was created by Microsoft years ago as a way to pull down content to devices like the XBox360. Nowadays it's called DLNA:

http://www.dlna.org/home

The creators of PlayOn got creative and went further. Where PlayOn adds value is by is pulling down content over the Net (based on your Hulu account, Netflix account, RSS feeds that point to video sources, etc., etc.) and then transcoding said content ON THE FLY so that it is consumable by things like the XBox360, iPhone, Playstation3, iPad, etc., etc.

With PlayOn I can conveniently watch Hulu in my living room, it's not just something "for the PC". As far as Hulu is concerned, they just think they're streaming to a PC but in actuality I'm watching it on something ELSE. It's a super fancy PROXY. Get it?]]>Aug 4th 2010 8:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/04/playons-web-app-brings-hulu-and-netflix-to-ipod-touch-iphone/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/04/playons-web-app-brings-hulu-and-netflix-to-ipod-touch-iphone/Aug 4th 2010 3:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/04/playons-web-app-brings-hulu-and-netflix-to-ipod-touch-iphone/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/04/playons-web-app-brings-hulu-and-netflix-to-ipod-touch-iphone/Aug 4th 2010 3:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/04/playons-web-app-brings-hulu-and-netflix-to-ipod-touch-iphone/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/04/playons-web-app-brings-hulu-and-netflix-to-ipod-touch-iphone/Aug 4th 2010 3:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/04/playons-web-app-brings-hulu-and-netflix-to-ipod-touch-iphone/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/04/playons-web-app-brings-hulu-and-netflix-to-ipod-touch-iphone/Aug 4th 2010 3:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/04/playons-web-app-brings-hulu-and-netflix-to-ipod-touch-iphone/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/04/playons-web-app-brings-hulu-and-netflix-to-ipod-touch-iphone/Aug 4th 2010 3:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/04/playons-web-app-brings-hulu-and-netflix-to-ipod-touch-iphone/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/04/playons-web-app-brings-hulu-and-netflix-to-ipod-touch-iphone/Aug 4th 2010 3:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/04/playons-web-app-brings-hulu-and-netflix-to-ipod-touch-iphone/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/04/playons-web-app-brings-hulu-and-netflix-to-ipod-touch-iphone/Aug 4th 2010 4:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/04/playons-web-app-brings-hulu-and-netflix-to-ipod-touch-iphone/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/04/playons-web-app-brings-hulu-and-netflix-to-ipod-touch-iphone/Aug 4th 2010 4:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/04/playons-web-app-brings-hulu-and-netflix-to-ipod-touch-iphone/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/04/playons-web-app-brings-hulu-and-netflix-to-ipod-touch-iphone/
TIA.]]>Aug 4th 2010 4:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/04/playons-web-app-brings-hulu-and-netflix-to-ipod-touch-iphone/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/04/playons-web-app-brings-hulu-and-netflix-to-ipod-touch-iphone/Hulu detects that the Flash plugin is running on Android platform.

I read somewhere that you can root your device and patch the flash plugin to make every website think that you are running on flash plugin on Windows. (Not sure if this hack still works.)]]>Aug 4th 2010 4:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/04/playons-web-app-brings-hulu-and-netflix-to-ipod-touch-iphone/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/04/playons-web-app-brings-hulu-and-netflix-to-ipod-touch-iphone/Aug 4th 2010 4:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/04/playons-web-app-brings-hulu-and-netflix-to-ipod-touch-iphone/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/04/playons-web-app-brings-hulu-and-netflix-to-ipod-touch-iphone/you mean Mac server ? Yeah, they said they would never develop the Playon server on Mac.]]>Aug 4th 2010 4:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/04/playons-web-app-brings-hulu-and-netflix-to-ipod-touch-iphone/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/04/playons-web-app-brings-hulu-and-netflix-to-ipod-touch-iphone/Aug 4th 2010 4:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/04/playons-web-app-brings-hulu-and-netflix-to-ipod-touch-iphone/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/04/playons-web-app-brings-hulu-and-netflix-to-ipod-touch-iphone/
Over Wifi, the video quality is good. But why would I want to do that instead of watching it on my TV.]]>Aug 4th 2010 4:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/04/playons-web-app-brings-hulu-and-netflix-to-ipod-touch-iphone/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/04/playons-web-app-brings-hulu-and-netflix-to-ipod-touch-iphone/
So the work around, works without a App. Save the link as a PlayOn Icon, so it's almost like a App. Follow the Simple Instructions, and forward 1 port on your Router, Link up on your OWN home network FIRST before using some other Wifi network or 3G!!!

Really, Apple might as well go ahead and just release the APP because they can't stop what PlayON is already now doing. Something Apple wanted to control.
]]>Aug 4th 2010 4:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/04/playons-web-app-brings-hulu-and-netflix-to-ipod-touch-iphone/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/04/playons-web-app-brings-hulu-and-netflix-to-ipod-touch-iphone/
Unless I am misunderstanding you playon isn't free they just started charging for their services.

On a related ntoe, how pointless is it that you have to be on the same network as the playon server. I know that does make sense but why would I play hulu on my ipad/iphone when I'm in the same house as my computer that has a much bigger screen. This would be so much more useful if they could make it work over the internet similar to they way slingbox works.]]>Aug 4th 2010 5:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/04/playons-web-app-brings-hulu-and-netflix-to-ipod-touch-iphone/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/04/playons-web-app-brings-hulu-and-netflix-to-ipod-touch-iphone/PLayon is also not free. And Hulu will be a one time fee to get the app on an iOS device, you do not have to subscribe to Hulu Plus to use the iPhione app (only to access plus content)., once the trial period ends. ]]>Aug 4th 2010 5:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/04/playons-web-app-brings-hulu-and-netflix-to-ipod-touch-iphone/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/04/playons-web-app-brings-hulu-and-netflix-to-ipod-touch-iphone/Did you even read what JBDragon said. You can watch PLayon videos over 3G. You have to forward a port in your router and visit m.playon.tv. That's about it. It'll will work on *any* Wi-fi network (Starbucks or Work Wi-fi for example) and AT&T's 3G network.

Yeah there is no point using it on your own Wifi network. Might as well watch Playon using PS3/Xbox on your TV.]]>Aug 4th 2010 5:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/04/playons-web-app-brings-hulu-and-netflix-to-ipod-touch-iphone/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/04/playons-web-app-brings-hulu-and-netflix-to-ipod-touch-iphone/I agree with you playon costs and I think it's a subscription. But really hulu plus only costs a subscription during the preview period..where are your sources?]]>Aug 4th 2010 5:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/04/playons-web-app-brings-hulu-and-netflix-to-ipod-touch-iphone/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/04/playons-web-app-brings-hulu-and-netflix-to-ipod-touch-iphone/
PlayOn does charge a Subscription FEE, BUT, you can pay a little more and have Lifetime PREMIUM content, which is what I did. It wasn't that much already being a Lifetime Basic User. A new person I think it's $79. I think I paid $34 or some such and I'm done, or at least until there's a Super Premium service a few years from now. The IPHONE service right now is FREE. Not sure if they have plans to charge anything for the APP if Apple ever allows it to go though or not.

Also as I SAID, when you first setup PlayOn for your IPHONE, you need to be on YOUR network, that's so everything gets setup correctly. The only other thing is forwarding 1 port on your router. Once those 2 things are done, your Iphone can connect on ANY WIFI network. Home, sure, but really why, but at Work, Starbucks, etc, AND to the 3G network, you know AT&T!!!

Again, the content is sent from HULU, Netflix, whatever to your PC that's running your PlayON PC software. It converts that Video on the fly and sends in back OUT to your IPHONE (where ever you happen to be anyplace in the WORLD!!! As far as HULU and the others are concerned, they are connected to a PC, and a PC that's in the U.S.!!! Same with the other stuff it gets. ALL can be streamed ANYWHERE you happen to be!!! There's no, I'm in Canada and I can't watch Netflix on my IPhone or even your Laptop because you CAN though PlayOn!!!

At home I don't need to use my Iphone for Video, I use my Xbox 360 and I can get all the content though that. Yes HULU already on my Xbox 360 along with Youtube, and CBS, and ESPN, Amazon VOD, Netflix with only a Silver Account, Etc... Also can do it on a PS3 and Wii!!! ]]>Aug 4th 2010 7:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/04/playons-web-app-brings-hulu-and-netflix-to-ipod-touch-iphone/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/04/playons-web-app-brings-hulu-and-netflix-to-ipod-touch-iphone/
Oh by the way, I just looked at the Iphone App for Hulu. Do you know it's caled HULU Plus? That's because it's almost WORTHLESS unless you have a PAID Subscription!!! I just a few minutes ago checked it out. At this time you can click on the Free Gallery button on the bottom left where you get to pick from like 11 different full shows. That's it!!! You can search and find all the different programs, but they ALL show hulu+ and if you go and hit one of them, it's asking for username and password and it says 'You must be a Plus Subscriber to watch this Video'. That means unless your paying the $10 a month for Hulu, you can't access 99.99999 of the content on HULU. It's not the same as when you access Hulu on your PC!!! There at least you get like the last 5 shows of each program or some such thing. THIS is why PlayOn is a plus also!!! Again, HULU thinks your PC is accessing the content, in fact Internet Explorer is what's used, this allows you to get ALL of the content you see on you PC on your Iphone, without using HULU's App and having to pay the $10 each and every month!!! It's a run around. Until HULU just pretty much block everything on the PC to NON-Paying users, I have access to it all on my IPHONE where ever in the world I happen to be. Maybe just at Lunch break watching a episode of South Park or something. See I can do that with PlayON, You CAN'T unless you pay the $10 per month. I paid my Lifetime Premium PlayOn service, that's less then 4 months of paying HULU alone, and without the Limitations such as leaving the U.S. Once your out of the U.S. and try logging in without a IP address in this the country, your out of luck, paying that subscription or not. I on the other hand have no problem. My Home PC is still there at Home in the U.S. That's all that matters.
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