http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/06/apple-uses-third-party-app-screenshots-in-patent-applications-w/ Engadget Comments for Apple uses third-party app screenshots in patent applications, world erupts in hysteria http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/06/apple-uses-third-party-app-screenshots-in-patent-applications-w/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/06/apple-uses-third-party-app-screenshots-in-patent-applications-w/Aug 6th 2010 4:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/06/apple-uses-third-party-app-screenshots-in-patent-applications-w/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/06/apple-uses-third-party-app-screenshots-in-patent-applications-w/
"I think you should go and read the actual patent claims. It looks to me like it’s all about knowing a user’s travel schedule, and using the information of when their phone has been turned off and back on to figure out if someone’s arrived at their destination.

Your app is just one example of an app that might be used *in conjunction* with the technology they want to patent."

Source: Some Guy on FutureTap article.]]>Aug 6th 2010 4:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/06/apple-uses-third-party-app-screenshots-in-patent-applications-w/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/06/apple-uses-third-party-app-screenshots-in-patent-applications-w/Aug 6th 2010 5:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/06/apple-uses-third-party-app-screenshots-in-patent-applications-w/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/06/apple-uses-third-party-app-screenshots-in-patent-applications-w/Aug 6th 2010 5:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/06/apple-uses-third-party-app-screenshots-in-patent-applications-w/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/06/apple-uses-third-party-app-screenshots-in-patent-applications-w/Aug 6th 2010 5:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/06/apple-uses-third-party-app-screenshots-in-patent-applications-w/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/06/apple-uses-third-party-app-screenshots-in-patent-applications-w/
I agree, I think the apps are just examples. I mean, take a look at this patent:

http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/15/creepy-laughter-tracking-ps3-patent-has-us-rethinking-sonys-wh/

As you can see there, the device displayed on the television is actually patented. (US patent #6,293,874) But they are not actually claiming the invention of the device, only using it as a picture example.]]>Aug 6th 2010 5:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/06/apple-uses-third-party-app-screenshots-in-patent-applications-w/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/06/apple-uses-third-party-app-screenshots-in-patent-applications-w/
So, how much are they paying you guys again?]]>Aug 6th 2010 5:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/06/apple-uses-third-party-app-screenshots-in-patent-applications-w/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/06/apple-uses-third-party-app-screenshots-in-patent-applications-w/Aug 6th 2010 5:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/06/apple-uses-third-party-app-screenshots-in-patent-applications-w/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/06/apple-uses-third-party-app-screenshots-in-patent-applications-w/Aug 6th 2010 5:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/06/apple-uses-third-party-app-screenshots-in-patent-applications-w/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/06/apple-uses-third-party-app-screenshots-in-patent-applications-w/
Apple should still ask for permission if they use app that's not theirs in their patent application. Just the decent thing to do.

It's pretty weird Engadget feels need to write lengthy article defending Apple for something Apple clearly should not be doing.]]>Aug 6th 2010 5:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/06/apple-uses-third-party-app-screenshots-in-patent-applications-w/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/06/apple-uses-third-party-app-screenshots-in-patent-applications-w/If "coming to Apple's defense" means "explaining what is actually going on", then yes, you are 100% correct!]]>Aug 6th 2010 5:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/06/apple-uses-third-party-app-screenshots-in-patent-applications-w/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/06/apple-uses-third-party-app-screenshots-in-patent-applications-w/Aug 6th 2010 5:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/06/apple-uses-third-party-app-screenshots-in-patent-applications-w/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/06/apple-uses-third-party-app-screenshots-in-patent-applications-w/
How is that supposed to make those app devs feel better? Those applications arent filed for nothing. It's not like Apple just left them in their out box, they sent them to the patent office.]]>Aug 6th 2010 5:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/06/apple-uses-third-party-app-screenshots-in-patent-applications-w/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/06/apple-uses-third-party-app-screenshots-in-patent-applications-w/
Funny how they only do stuff like this for apple though, right?]]>Aug 6th 2010 6:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/06/apple-uses-third-party-app-screenshots-in-patent-applications-w/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/06/apple-uses-third-party-app-screenshots-in-patent-applications-w/
@Nilay Patel
Thank you Nilay for this article. It's an interesting, detailed read for those of us interested in the facts of the case and of patent law. Please don't let those who complain about it not going out of its way to attack apple stop you from writing similar articles in the future.]]>Aug 6th 2010 6:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/06/apple-uses-third-party-app-screenshots-in-patent-applications-w/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/06/apple-uses-third-party-app-screenshots-in-patent-applications-w/
Don't get me wrong, my trollin' and rollin' is going places, but i do think this is a good article, i'm just sick of Engadgets constant bias towards Apple, you can't deny it isn't there. I used to be quite the apple fanboy myself(a while ago), but I've moved on since then and can spot apple bias from 3 miles away, they call me apple eye.]]>Aug 6th 2010 6:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/06/apple-uses-third-party-app-screenshots-in-patent-applications-w/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/06/apple-uses-third-party-app-screenshots-in-patent-applications-w/
Oh and, I know that apple news just gives you guys that much more traffic, but honestly, you don't need to bend over for every tiny piece of apple news every damn chance you get.]]>Aug 6th 2010 6:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/06/apple-uses-third-party-app-screenshots-in-patent-applications-w/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/06/apple-uses-third-party-app-screenshots-in-patent-applications-w/
The fact that you are pissed that Nilay clarified a misconception makes you feel pretty bad, cause now their is one less issue for you to hate Apple.]]>Aug 6th 2010 6:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/06/apple-uses-third-party-app-screenshots-in-patent-applications-w/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/06/apple-uses-third-party-app-screenshots-in-patent-applications-w/Aug 6th 2010 6:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/06/apple-uses-third-party-app-screenshots-in-patent-applications-w/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/06/apple-uses-third-party-app-screenshots-in-patent-applications-w/Aug 6th 2010 6:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/06/apple-uses-third-party-app-screenshots-in-patent-applications-w/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/06/apple-uses-third-party-app-screenshots-in-patent-applications-w/While I agree that this is much ado about nothing. I hope Engadget will also take the time to explain Microsoft/Google's side of the story when they find themselves in semi-hot waters. ]]>Aug 6th 2010 7:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/06/apple-uses-third-party-app-screenshots-in-patent-applications-w/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/06/apple-uses-third-party-app-screenshots-in-patent-applications-w/
i think this actually makes engadget seem neutral for tech heads that just want to read news about the industry. all the people who have been whipped up into a frenzy about apple are going to complain as it's lost its negative slant ie omg apple is just copying it devs and is being evil as usual mantra.

i too am tired of all the apple stuff i see online, but the things that annoy me are every app rejection that gets mulled over, only the ones where apple is truly being short sighted should make it, all the others are just clutter. all the foxconn stories singling out apple, as foxconn is the largest manufacture for the whole industry, those suicides are being used just to put apple in a bad light. the issue is far more important then the second rate hit job aimed at one company out of the many who use its services.

i get bored of all the apple fan art other companies like to produce, in hardware and software, i like seeing new ideas, its exciting, it gets dull fast when you keep seeing the same old, next ios device killer ad nauseam, especially when said device takes most of its cues from the device its trying to kill. an example that i like would be the notion ink adam tablet, as its not trying to be an ipad, so its good seeing what exciting ideas companies have, as its too easy to just copy what worked for one company.

so while we agree that to much focus on one tech company is yawn inducing, for me the problem is a lot deeper than just blogs and media in general. some of its rivals are probably the worse offenders, with a few tripping over themselves to place as many negative stories as can be found in the public space, flooding message boards and comments sections responding to such stories, keeps apple in the spotlight, but hey maybe one day this will be figured out.

its not just the media side of the industry who puts focus on apple, ]]>Aug 6th 2010 7:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/06/apple-uses-third-party-app-screenshots-in-patent-applications-w/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/06/apple-uses-third-party-app-screenshots-in-patent-applications-w/
you're missing the point. its not so much this one thing, but more of an overall pattern of behavior by engadget's editors - downright predictable - and it's become increasingly difficult to ignore. if nilay had no vested interest then why characterize the reaction to this as "hysterical"? why's he invested in it? that's well and good but then at least have some transparency about it, come out and say where you stand. so the lack of transparency is what bugs a lot of people.]]>Aug 6th 2010 10:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/06/apple-uses-third-party-app-screenshots-in-patent-applications-w/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/06/apple-uses-third-party-app-screenshots-in-patent-applications-w/Aug 6th 2010 10:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/06/apple-uses-third-party-app-screenshots-in-patent-applications-w/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/06/apple-uses-third-party-app-screenshots-in-patent-applications-w/They must have received their rubber bumper from steve 'HAND' jobs...:)]]>Aug 6th 2010 11:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/06/apple-uses-third-party-app-screenshots-in-patent-applications-w/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/06/apple-uses-third-party-app-screenshots-in-patent-applications-w/
i was shocked at the last line of my post, wondering where it came from, i need the practice, i should of paid more attention at school.]]>Aug 7th 2010 12:29AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/06/apple-uses-third-party-app-screenshots-in-patent-applications-w/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/06/apple-uses-third-party-app-screenshots-in-patent-applications-w/
Yes, if anyone needed proof that Engadget is heavily Apple biased then this scandalous Apple excusing BS should fix that.]]>Aug 7th 2010 2:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/06/apple-uses-third-party-app-screenshots-in-patent-applications-w/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/06/apple-uses-third-party-app-screenshots-in-patent-applications-w/
Jobs: "Good artists copy. Great artists STEAL."

I couldn't agree more. Jobs is. Narcissistic a-hole copycat]]>Aug 7th 2010 12:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/06/apple-uses-third-party-app-screenshots-in-patent-applications-w/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/06/apple-uses-third-party-app-screenshots-in-patent-applications-w/Aug 7th 2010 5:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/06/apple-uses-third-party-app-screenshots-in-patent-applications-w/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/06/apple-uses-third-party-app-screenshots-in-patent-applications-w/Aug 6th 2010 4:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/06/apple-uses-third-party-app-screenshots-in-patent-applications-w/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/06/apple-uses-third-party-app-screenshots-in-patent-applications-w/Engadget has become an Apple PR backoffice... defending the fruit company with in depth details and reasons for its rot ]]>Aug 6th 2010 5:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/06/apple-uses-third-party-app-screenshots-in-patent-applications-w/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/06/apple-uses-third-party-app-screenshots-in-patent-applications-w/
Indeed. Just look at our two friends's comments above. Nothing starts people foaming at the mouth these days like the word "Apple."

As for throwing patents to see what sticks, welcome to the world of patents. All major companies do this. Check out some of Microsoft's recent patent applications for example.]]>Aug 6th 2010 6:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/06/apple-uses-third-party-app-screenshots-in-patent-applications-w/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/06/apple-uses-third-party-app-screenshots-in-patent-applications-w/
But none of these companies should be doing it by STEALING content in any form (and to be clear, "STEALING" with capital letters is appropriate here) from the developers who contributed to their success.]]>Aug 7th 2010 10:25AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/06/apple-uses-third-party-app-screenshots-in-patent-applications-w/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/06/apple-uses-third-party-app-screenshots-in-patent-applications-w// i'm pretty sure those devs are downright pissed that their screenshots appear as an example of one of the possible adaptations on apple's pattent aplication /s

hell, did you even read the post?]]>Aug 8th 2010 6:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/06/apple-uses-third-party-app-screenshots-in-patent-applications-w/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/06/apple-uses-third-party-app-screenshots-in-patent-applications-w/Aug 6th 2010 4:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/06/apple-uses-third-party-app-screenshots-in-patent-applications-w/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/06/apple-uses-third-party-app-screenshots-in-patent-applications-w/
True, but Giz doesn't go indepth as Nilay has here. They just bung a photo with 2-3 lines of text and call it a news post.]]>Aug 6th 2010 4:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/06/apple-uses-third-party-app-screenshots-in-patent-applications-w/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/06/apple-uses-third-party-app-screenshots-in-patent-applications-w/Yeah, but this post lacks the ambiguous anti-apple hate mongering that gizmodo seems so fond of lately.

...wonder why they've been like that.

Much more reasonable approach Engadget, kudos.]]>Aug 6th 2010 5:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/06/apple-uses-third-party-app-screenshots-in-patent-applications-w/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/06/apple-uses-third-party-app-screenshots-in-patent-applications-w/Aug 6th 2010 5:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/06/apple-uses-third-party-app-screenshots-in-patent-applications-w/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/06/apple-uses-third-party-app-screenshots-in-patent-applications-w/Aug 6th 2010 5:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/06/apple-uses-third-party-app-screenshots-in-patent-applications-w/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/06/apple-uses-third-party-app-screenshots-in-patent-applications-w/
Yes because we engadgeteers are supposed to check both websites and buy every newspaper too?]]>Aug 6th 2010 5:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/06/apple-uses-third-party-app-screenshots-in-patent-applications-w/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/06/apple-uses-third-party-app-screenshots-in-patent-applications-w/
Reasonable? More like fanboys coming to the rescue of their dear sweet Apple!]]>Aug 6th 2010 5:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/06/apple-uses-third-party-app-screenshots-in-patent-applications-w/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/06/apple-uses-third-party-app-screenshots-in-patent-applications-w/
Its called; taking it in the ass for the team.]]>Aug 6th 2010 5:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/06/apple-uses-third-party-app-screenshots-in-patent-applications-w/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/06/apple-uses-third-party-app-screenshots-in-patent-applications-w/Reasonable approach to what?? Engadget is just trying to be apple pr backoffice.... u don't see that..??? ]]>Aug 6th 2010 5:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/06/apple-uses-third-party-app-screenshots-in-patent-applications-w/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/06/apple-uses-third-party-app-screenshots-in-patent-applications-w/
haha]]>Aug 6th 2010 6:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/06/apple-uses-third-party-app-screenshots-in-patent-applications-w/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/06/apple-uses-third-party-app-screenshots-in-patent-applications-w/Aug 6th 2010 6:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/06/apple-uses-third-party-app-screenshots-in-patent-applications-w/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/06/apple-uses-third-party-app-screenshots-in-patent-applications-w/Aug 7th 2010 12:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/06/apple-uses-third-party-app-screenshots-in-patent-applications-w/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/06/apple-uses-third-party-app-screenshots-in-patent-applications-w/Aug 6th 2010 4:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/06/apple-uses-third-party-app-screenshots-in-patent-applications-w/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/06/apple-uses-third-party-app-screenshots-in-patent-applications-w/You havent read the article..]]>Aug 6th 2010 4:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/06/apple-uses-third-party-app-screenshots-in-patent-applications-w/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/06/apple-uses-third-party-app-screenshots-in-patent-applications-w/
And yes. I did read the article.]]>Aug 6th 2010 11:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/08/06/apple-uses-third-party-app-screenshots-in-patent-applications-w/http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/06/apple-uses-third-party-app-screenshots-in-patent-applications-w/Aug 6th 2010 4:58PM